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Post by bigjohnritchie on Mar 22, 2020 20:27:01 GMT
People are filling up at the filling stations every day using the same pumps, people are using the same cash points, people are still going around in groups. The only way forward is a total lockdown imo Perhaps it depends if we ( as individuals) are trying to prevent it( which is natural surely for any disease) or whether we as a population strategy are trying to delay it....I've no idea myself , but personally think that the government are in a no win situation....classic case of individual or collective responsibility. |
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Post by zerps on Mar 22, 2020 20:28:14 GMT
Probably more chance of someone having a baby during a pandemic A baby with no immune system, that very quickly will not acquire one from its mother? Or maybe the mother has no immune system?
Keep going
Yeah, funnily enough babies build immunity from their environment and experiences. Even though they are born with a fraction of their mothers immunity. Maybe we should abandon sterilisation clammy? |
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Post by henry on Mar 22, 2020 20:28:29 GMT
I honestly didn't realise how bad it would be until last weekend. Feeling pretty stupid right now. I’m fuming watching this. I didn’t want it on but the missus insisted. It’s a shambles. He just can’t bring himself to say lockdown. Fucking hell fire ! You have a missus ? |
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Post by Clayton Wood on Mar 22, 2020 20:30:39 GMT
My neighbour just had a few posh pizzas delivered and dropped on their front door step. They came out thirty seconds later and picked up in same fashion. If that guy hadn't used hand sanitizer then the chances of transmittal are probably more than walking past somebody in the park. It's a bugger.Suggest he keeps his arse facing the house to avoid this. |
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Post by Billy the kid on Mar 22, 2020 20:31:01 GMT
I'm afraid we have too many numpties in this country, for this to work without forced isolation. Unfortunately the government are now failing the country on three counts, 1) the lack of PPE for front line care staff and other equipment 2) little to no help for the self employed (like me) and 3) No forced isolation.
As it stands I have to go to work tomorrow (granted it's only me and another guy in a fairly large workshop, with no public access) because I cant provide for me family on £94 a week SSP (single father of two teenagers). My line of work is far from essential and until the orders stop coming in and the material suppliers close it has to be business as usual. What is getting increasingly frustrating is the numpties treating this like an extended bank holiday, and those selfish pricks emptying the shelfs I went to Morrisons this morning and the tinned isle was a joke the staff were literally pulling pallets out and they were being emptied by customers quicker than he could get it on the shelf. Just what the fuck is wrong with people? One six pack of loo roll I ha e managed to purchase in the last week, if you are bulk buying it where the fuck are you storing it?
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Post by AlliG on Mar 22, 2020 20:31:35 GMT
Probably more chance of someone having a baby during a pandemic A baby with no immune system, that very quickly will not acquire one from its mother? Or maybe the mother has no immune system? Keep going
There is actually a more immediately concerning issue around pregnant women / new mothers. I had an interesting chat (on WhatsApp) with my sister earlier today. She is currently a community midwife in the South Midlands area. They have a serious problem at the moment in that (for fairly obvious reasons) the mothers-to-be are not keen on visiting the hospital for their tests and checks but they also don't want home visits from midwives, because they will have visited other homes previously. It is a Catch-22 situation but the obvious implication is that it is inevitable that there is likely to be a deterioration in health and mortality rates over and above that directly linked to Covid-19 |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 22, 2020 20:31:54 GMT
I still suspect that what we are seeing at the moment is "Nice Boris". Nice Boris thanking everybody - almost like watching an over paid idiot receiving an Oscar. It will be interesting to see what "Nasty Boris" looks like. That can't come soon enough ....
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Post by Billy the kid on Mar 22, 2020 20:32:52 GMT
I’m fuming watching this. I didn’t want it on but the missus insisted. It’s a shambles. He just can’t bring himself to say lockdown. Fucking hell fire ! You have a missus ? Fucking strange world we are living in, and even stranger times 🤣🤣 |
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Post by Foster on Mar 22, 2020 20:34:15 GMT
People are filling up at the filling stations every day using the same pumps, people are using the same cash points, people are still going around in groups. The only way forward is a total lockdown imo I think if fatalities continue to follow the Italy trajectory then we'll adopt the same restrictions as our immediate European neighbours. I'm particularly worried about the fatalities in London to be honest. I have a feeling that with the prolonged lax restrictions that the number of infections and subsequent fatalities could be immense. |
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Post by henry on Mar 22, 2020 20:34:57 GMT
You know I really do think this term 'underlying health conditions' is far too convenient of a catch all. It can mean anything from somebody who is undergoing aggressive chemo with virtually no immune system, to somebody with a BMI of 40+. Are people who are relatively young but not seriously ill, dying from this? It's been used from day 1 yet there's little information what these "underlying health conditions" are. Are people dying from this then the Medics back engineer an excuse. |
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Post by berahinosgoals on Mar 22, 2020 20:36:06 GMT
People are filling up at the filling stations every day using the same pumps, people are using the same cash points, people are still going around in groups. The only way forward is a total lockdown imo Perhaps it depends if we ( as individuals) are trying to prevent it( which is natural surely for any disease) or whether we as a population strategy are trying to delay it....I've no idea myself , but personally think that the government are in a no win situation....classic case of individual or collective responsibility. Agree, Getting 60 million people to take serious notice is difficult in any situation, a proportion are in denial ( "it's just the flu, the flu kills 16'000 a year"), then you have a group who dont care because they arnt classed as at risk themselves, I drove past staffs uni on leek road a few days back and at least 300 tightly grouped students were walking from one building to another in complete ignorance. I filled up earlier at the filling station and it was only as I lifted up the pump I thought of how many may have picked that pump up today and I should have worn a glove in hindsight, I come home after though and disinfected everything I'd touched since, phone, keys, door handles etc. They should have staff on these supermarket filling stations wearing ppe filling up for customers imo |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Mar 22, 2020 20:36:16 GMT
You know I really do think this term 'underlying health conditions' is far too convenient of a catch all. It can mean anything from somebody who is undergoing aggressive chemo with virtually no immune system, to somebody with a BMI of 40+. Are people who are relatively young but not seriously ill, dying from this? It's been used from day 1 yet there's little information what these "underlying health conditions" are. Are people dying from this then the Medics back engineer an excuse. They were mentioned last week. Asthma is one. So it’s scary. |
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Post by xchpotter on Mar 22, 2020 20:36:47 GMT
I have been to my "corner shop" today. It is more than a CS, but not quite a Tesco Express. There were signs that the shelves were not quite as full as usual, but this was a Sunday evening. The wine section seemed to have taken a hammering - but very far from empty. The two lads behind the counter were wearing face masks and gloves (I don't blame them for a second). Interestingly, a joiner was working away building a perspex screen across the till counter (seems sensible). My local Spa shop is doing ok. I’m using it only as an emergency top up when home deliveries have lacked items. People seem to be better behaved in there than the stuff I’m seeing at supermarkets on social media.As and when this is over I will make a point of spending a little more at the place each week. |
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Post by lagwafis on Mar 22, 2020 20:37:36 GMT
Your move, Boris  |
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Post by zerps on Mar 22, 2020 20:38:47 GMT
A baby with no immune system, that very quickly will not acquire one from its mother? Or maybe the mother has no immune system? Keep going
There is actually a more immediately concerning issue around pregnant women / new mothers. I had an interesting chat (on WhatsApp) with my sister earlier today. She is currently a community midwife in the South Midlands area. They have a serious problem at the moment in that (for fairly obvious reasons) the mothers-to-be are not keen on visiting the hospital for their tests and checks but they also don't want home visits from midwives, because they will have visited other homes previously. It is a Catch-22 situation but the obvious implication is that it is inevitable that there is likely to be a deterioration in health and mortality rates over and above that directly linked to Covid-19 Terrifying mate. |
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Post by Foster on Mar 22, 2020 20:38:58 GMT
My neighbour just had a few posh pizzas delivered and dropped on their front door step. They came out thirty seconds later and picked up in same fashion. If that guy hadn't used hand sanitizer then the chances of transmittal are probably more than walking past somebody in the park. It's a bugger. It is. People here are encouraged to support and order food from local providers and restaurants, but as you say, you can't be sure how it was prepared. I still ordered and picked up 3 pizzas last night though. When I got there the staff working were all wearing protective clothing and they only let in one customer at a time. |
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Post by berahinosgoals on Mar 22, 2020 20:39:01 GMT
Your move, Boris 😁 That cant be real?? |
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Post by smallthorner on Mar 22, 2020 20:40:03 GMT
My neighbour just had a few posh pizzas delivered and dropped on their front door step. They came out thirty seconds later and picked up in same fashion. If that guy hadn't used hand sanitizer then the chances of transmittal are probably more than walking past somebody in the park. It's a bugger.Suggest he keeps his arse facing the house to avoid this. How's the "bean counting" clayton? 😊 Or have you gone onto pastures new? |
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Post by henry on Mar 22, 2020 20:43:14 GMT
Exactly. So whilst it's an individual decision presumably the most responsible of us will abide by the rules whilst others won't. Either we are isolating or not. And if we include the crowds at shops , in reality we are not isolating. Should ALL shopping be online? What about the guy coughing on his way up your drive, all over your milk and cheese? Your self isolation just got blown to fuck. Buy a Goat. |
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on Mar 22, 2020 20:43:47 GMT
I can’t help thinking the one thing missing amongst the experts is command and control leadership experience , military , business, police etc the science may be right , the political judgements equally so , but communication and action are lacking precision and impact .
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Post by thebet365 on Mar 22, 2020 20:46:18 GMT
Mcdonalds shutting fully tomorrow from 7pm. Looks like the lock down is starting behind the scenes.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Mar 22, 2020 20:47:28 GMT
Your move, Boris 😁 That cant be real?? Of course it isn’t 😂 |
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Post by smallthorner on Mar 22, 2020 20:49:01 GMT
I can’t help thinking the one thing missing amongst the experts is command and control leadership experience , military , business, police etc the science may be right , the political judgements equally so , but communication and action are lacking precision and impact . Totally agree. Not a criticism of BoJo at all but think an interim emergency "war" government should have been in place two weeks ago. This is no time for political point scoring. |
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Post by berahinosgoals on Mar 22, 2020 20:49:53 GMT
😁 It's a good idea though |
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Post by henry on Mar 22, 2020 20:50:13 GMT
Social media inundated with this kind of barminess. #George A Romero likes this. |
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Post by somersetstokie on Mar 22, 2020 20:50:34 GMT
I'm sorry to spoil your enjoyment, but that's what being in the Army is all about! Being at the other end of the sharp end, or walking the dog? Military intervention. Its a quote from a Monty Python sketch. |
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Post by vokeswagen on Mar 22, 2020 20:50:41 GMT
I’m not planning on leaving the house for a couple of weeks now..... Is 150,000 posts too much of a target?  Is not putting a winking fucking face at the end of just one post too much of a target?!   |
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Post by Foster on Mar 22, 2020 20:51:22 GMT
The fact that it says it's live at 13:17 and that it's clearly footage from the evening gives it away. |
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Post by henry on Mar 22, 2020 20:52:49 GMT
It's been used from day 1 yet there's little information what these "underlying health conditions" are. Are people dying from this then the Medics back engineer an excuse. They were mentioned last week. Asthma is one. So it’s scary. So was Arthritis |
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Post by bigjohnritchie on Mar 22, 2020 20:54:42 GMT
Government can only do so much.
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