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Post by Gods on Jan 24, 2021 17:33:42 GMT
We could probably do with a few less people dying I guess. The current 7 day average daily death rate is about 1,250 when I last looked and still rising. The highest of any country in the world I think Andrew Marr said this morning. It's hard to see it coming down any time soon when they are reporting people on ventilators just topped 4000 more than at any time in wave 1. I'm also thinking how painfully slow the death rate was to come down in wave 1. And to think we have so many more treatments now. Wave 2 has hit us like a steaming train. There's quite some heavy lifting still left to go it would seem before we are out of this living nightmare! So if for some reason the vaccine doesn’t work what’s your proposal for lockdowns? I don't have one. That's the strategy though isn't it. Keep trying to kick the virus in to the long grass through a series of lockdowns and hope like shit it doesn't get one step ahead of the vaccine! Beyond that I'm all out of ideas. We'll all just have to take it on the chin I suppose, it won't be quick and it won't be pretty!
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Post by dutchstokie on Jan 24, 2021 17:36:57 GMT
You were operating the water cannons, weren't you? 😂 Sadly not.....😂
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Post by terryconroysmagic on Jan 24, 2021 17:53:30 GMT
So if for some reason the vaccine doesn’t work what’s your proposal for lockdowns? I don't have one. That's the strategy though isn't it. Keep trying to kick the virus in to the long grass through a series of lockdowns and hope like shit it doesn't get one step ahead of the vaccine! Beyond that I'm all out of ideas. We'll all just have to take it on the chin I suppose, it won't be quick and it won't be pretty! Thanks, appreciate the answer. While I’m anti lockdown I’m prepared to abide it and obey the rules for another while. I’d actually prefer if the government came out and said we are going to lockdown until (say) 1st May (or until x% of population has been vaccinated) This constant chopping and changing is ridiculous If we can’t get a handle on it by this summer then we’ll have to just get on with it (put in place as many (non lockdown) precautions as possible) and try and get back to normality. The mental strain is becoming unbearable for a lot of people
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Post by samba :) on Jan 24, 2021 18:13:57 GMT
Is proffesor van tams role just to act as a voice of pessimism?
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Jan 24, 2021 18:22:46 GMT
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Post by starkiller on Jan 24, 2021 18:27:50 GMT
30,000 'cases'. That's a lot of shopping vouchers.
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Post by zerps on Jan 24, 2021 18:35:01 GMT
Why are the Florence Nightingale hospitals empty?
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Post by medwaypotter on Jan 24, 2021 18:43:02 GMT
Why are the Florence Nightingale hospitals empty? The London one isn't
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Post by dexta on Jan 24, 2021 18:48:42 GMT
Why are the Florence Nightingale hospitals empty? no one to nurse them
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Post by Gods on Jan 24, 2021 18:53:47 GMT
BBC headline now "UK has 77 cases of the South African variant". How have these cunts not been defunded yet. Sky headlines also Please can someone explain if I am broadly right here? Does 77 'known cases' of the South African variant means we may in reality have say closer to 77,000 cases in the UK? The reason being it would seem unlikely that we further test more than say 1 in 1000 positive tests to arrive at the actual variant.
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Post by mtrstudent on Jan 24, 2021 19:01:00 GMT
The current headline is on how many vaccinations have been done. New variants are complete game changers if they're better at spreading, more lethal or resist vaccines. It's potentially major major news and you haven't persuaded me otherwise. No its not, the new variant is! And why is it major major news in any way, shape or form?! That's like saying "one day we may get a variant that will end the world". It's a complete and utter nothing story! All "mays" and "could be's". Even if it was some ninja mutant strain that will kill us all, there is fuck all you and I can do about it. We've got into this awful mindset of fear. You can just totally see how totalitarian states are created. I think it's the most educating aspect of the past 10 months. Get the media onside, shut down and censor anything or anyone who questions you and you can get a population to do whatever you want them to do. [snip] I don't think fear is the right answer here, and I'm with you about avoiding that. People just need to know that this is an awful disease that will kill hundreds of thousands if we let it out of control, so let's just support the best rules we can and follow them. No need for overwhelming fear. But your arguments against reporting important facts don't make much sense to me. We shouldn't report it because there's nothing you or I can do about it... if that were even true were you also annoyed when 9/11 was the headline? What about Khashoggi or the CCP's abuse of Uighurs? Not much we can do + they are sad news so were you equally as annoyed when those were reported on? "It's all mays and could be's" - are you against reporting any evidence on anything unless it's absolutely certain? Were you annoyed when they reported that the vaccines "could be 95% effective"? We don't know they're 95% effective, there is an uncertainty range on that number so the news shouldn't report it because it only may be/could be 95%? I just can't get my head around your logic as to why facts that could hugely affect our lives shouldn't be reported. It sounds like a call for political correctness to me.
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Post by musik on Jan 24, 2021 19:03:06 GMT
What's specific with the South African version?
Tegnell says they don't know.
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Post by mtrstudent on Jan 24, 2021 19:03:45 GMT
Please can someone explain if I am broadly right here? Does 77 'known cases' of the South African variant means we may in reality have say closer to 77,000 cases in the UK? The reason being it would seem unlikely that we further test more than say 1 in 1000 positive tests to arrive at the actual variant. Dunno mate. The BBC said they were all traced to travelers so far and were being watched... So that makes it sound like they were just carefully checking people who'd been in SA rather than random testing. So reasonable chance it's not massively out and about yet.
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Post by Seymour Beaver on Jan 24, 2021 19:09:21 GMT
So will TUI include that in the price of a fortnight in Bodrum?
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Post by zerps on Jan 24, 2021 19:11:10 GMT
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Post by zerps on Jan 24, 2021 19:12:06 GMT
Why are the Florence Nightingale hospitals empty? no one to nurse them Didn’t they have 50000 offers from ex nhs staff and only take up 5000?
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Post by mtrstudent on Jan 24, 2021 19:29:54 GMT
Fair to ask what's going on here. If things got worse would we have needed them? If so then the preparation could be fair enough. But if there was no way to get the nurses etc then they were a waste.
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Jan 24, 2021 19:30:30 GMT
So will TUI include that in the price of a fortnight in Bodrum? They pay you to go to Bodrum don’t they😄
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Post by dexta on Jan 24, 2021 19:30:54 GMT
Didn’t they have 50000 offers from ex nhs staff and only take up 5000? if you used to work for the NHS would you go back to work for them in the current climate
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Post by Seymour Beaver on Jan 24, 2021 19:39:11 GMT
So will TUI include that in the price of a fortnight in Bodrum? They pay you to go to Bodrum don’t they😄 Dunno - never been. Just chose it at random. I take it 10 days in solitary at Stanstead on the way back would be the highlight then? (Which will no doubt run on a Serco contract).
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Post by denissmith1964 on Jan 24, 2021 19:49:14 GMT
With regards to the comment "that TIT" when a link was put up to Dr.vernon coleman well that "TIT" is DR. vernon coleman MB CHB DSC FRSA- He is a general practioner principal and a former professor of holistic medical sciences at the international open university of sri lanka. He has given evidence to the house of commons and house of lords uk.He was the first TV doctor and first "agony uncle" on the bbc. He has wrote over a 100 books and in the uk alone has sold 2 million copies and has also brought to light over the last 20 to 40 years the dangerous relationship between the medical establishment and the pharmaceutical industry,his website lists 50 other achievements of his in being the first writer to bring medical issues up and to people and the governments attention including the dangers of benzodiazpine tranquillisers.He just tells the truth which is why he resigned from his column on the sunday people when the editor did'nt want to publish his article on the war with iraq as it was'nt the government "line". He is anything but a "TIT"! Seems some would prefer the medical advice and knowledge of dr. Hillary, dr,colemans website is well worth a look although he is on bitchute now when you go to his website as youtube take him down,as the old saying goes "you only cut out a mans tongue,when you fear what he has to say"!
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Post by Gods on Jan 24, 2021 19:50:40 GMT
Please can someone explain if I am broadly right here? Does 77 'known cases' of the South African variant means we may in reality have say closer to 77,000 cases in the UK? The reason being it would seem unlikely that we further test more than say 1 in 1000 positive tests to arrive at the actual variant. Dunno mate. The BBC said they were all traced to travelers so far and were being watched... So that makes it sound like they were just carefully checking people who'd been in SA rather than random testing. So reasonable chance it's not massively out and about yet. Yes it's true they did say that and perhaps that is correct. Although something tells me neatly contained has not been modus operandi of this blasted virus so far!
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Post by medwaypotter on Jan 24, 2021 19:51:41 GMT
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Post by chigstoke on Jan 24, 2021 19:52:03 GMT
With regards to the comment "that TIT" when a link was put up to Dr.vernon coleman well that "TIT" is DR. vernon coleman MB CHB DSC FRSA- He is a general practioner principal and a former professor of holistic medical sciences at the international open university of sri lanka. He has given evidence to the house of commons and house of lords uk.He was the first TV doctor and first "agony uncle" on the bbc. He has wrote over a 100 books and in the uk alone has sold 2 million copies and has also brought to light over the last 20 to 40 years the dangerous relationship between the medical establishment and the pharmaceutical industry,his website lists 50 other achievements of his in being the first writer to bring medical issues up and to people and the governments attention including the dangers of benzodiazpine tranquillisers.He just tells the truth which is why he resigned from his column on the sunday people when the editor did'nt want to publish his article on the war with iraq as it was'nt the government "line". He is anything but a "TIT"! Seems some would prefer the medical advice and knowledge of dr. Hillary, dr,colemans website is well worth a look although he is on bitchute now when you go to his website as youtube take him down,as the old saying goes "you only cut out a mans tongue,when you fear what he has to say"! Are you Vernon Coleman?
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Post by henry on Jan 24, 2021 19:52:28 GMT
This is never going to end. All that will happen is the control will evolve and change shape. How folk could surrender all their natural freedoms to the state and expect to 'get back to normal', I don't know. You were warned. And you have the entire history of tyranny to refer to. Naive. Your ancestors recognised the importance of defending human freedom, above absolutely everything else. Mock away. Again please explain what reasons this or any other government as to gain by retaining lockdown/restrictions if they’re not needed I’ve a good think but I just can’t get any A last attempt at reversing global warming ?
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Post by henry on Jan 24, 2021 19:54:58 GMT
Just caught C4 news plugging a documentary from China about the early days of Covid CHINA And the MSM is plugging it
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Post by Davef on Jan 24, 2021 20:02:26 GMT
Just caught C4 news plugging a documentary from China about the early days of Covid CHINA And the MSM is plugging it Did they show people collapsing and dying instantly on the street?
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Post by Gary Hackett on Jan 24, 2021 20:10:01 GMT
With regards to the comment "that TIT" when a link was put up to Dr.vernon coleman well that "TIT" is DR. vernon coleman MB CHB DSC FRSA- He is a general practioner principal and a former professor of holistic medical sciences at the international open university of sri lanka. He has given evidence to the house of commons and house of lords uk.He was the first TV doctor and first "agony uncle" on the bbc. He has wrote over a 100 books and in the uk alone has sold 2 million copies and has also brought to light over the last 20 to 40 years the dangerous relationship between the medical establishment and the pharmaceutical industry,his website lists 50 other achievements of his in being the first writer to bring medical issues up and to people and the governments attention including the dangers of benzodiazpine tranquillisers.He just tells the truth which is why he resigned from his column on the sunday people when the editor did'nt want to publish his article on the war with iraq as it was'nt the government "line". He is anything but a "TIT"! Seems some would prefer the medical advice and knowledge of dr. Hillary, dr,colemans website is well worth a look although he is on bitchute now when you go to his website as youtube take him down,as the old saying goes "you only cut out a mans tongue,when you fear what he has to say"! I know exactly what he is, I read his columns for years hence why I think he's a tit.
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Post by henry on Jan 24, 2021 20:11:33 GMT
OOhh, a photo from March 30th.
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Post by salfordstokie on Jan 24, 2021 20:11:56 GMT
Bollocks to it then, we’ll live indoors for the rest of our lives. Or you could get on with your life and not pay the slightest bit of attention to these ludicrous rules. I havent since this nonsense started.
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