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Post by zerps on Mar 20, 2020 13:15:20 GMT
It’s called tough love. Dm me for more detail. No thanks. Go on
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Post by Olgrligm on Mar 20, 2020 13:16:00 GMT
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Post by estrangedsonoffaye on Mar 20, 2020 13:17:19 GMT
As I mentioned last night. We’ve not been called in a volunteers just yet but may be in the next few weeks. Shipped off our entire pcr capacity to ramp up testing.
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Post by Clayton Wood on Mar 20, 2020 13:35:50 GMT
As I mentioned last night. We’ve not been called in a volunteers just yet but may be in the next few weeks. Shipped off our entire pcr capacity to ramp up testing. Go on I'll be the first to ask! What are PCR machines?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 20, 2020 13:36:17 GMT
As I mentioned last night. We’ve not been called in a volunteers just yet but may be in the next few weeks. Shipped off our entire pcr capacity to ramp up testing. What’s PCR? They look like printers.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 20, 2020 13:43:23 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Mar 20, 2020 13:44:09 GMT
As I mentioned last night. We’ve not been called in a volunteers just yet but may be in the next few weeks. Shipped off our entire pcr capacity to ramp up testing. Is that where you work fella?
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Post by estrangedsonoffaye on Mar 20, 2020 13:45:40 GMT
As I mentioned last night. We’ve not been called in a volunteers just yet but may be in the next few weeks. Shipped off our entire pcr capacity to ramp up testing. Go on I'll be the first to ask! What are PCR machines? The Polymerase Chain Reaction is a way of amplifying genetic material from a small starting amount, directed at particular sequence of RNA or DNA. So in this case. the genetic material collected from swabs will be amplified in these machines and will be assessed for the virus sequence giving you a positive or negative test result. These machines take about 30-120mins (depending on what you are doing) to do one plate which can contain up to 384 individual reactions, though not all reactions will be a separate coronavirus test as you need to make controls etc.
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Post by musik on Mar 20, 2020 13:46:29 GMT
Which is presumably why you need all that bog roll. I haven’t got curtains in my car. You would have used them instead?
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Post by estrangedsonoffaye on Mar 20, 2020 13:47:42 GMT
As I mentioned last night. We’ve not been called in a volunteers just yet but may be in the next few weeks. Shipped off our entire pcr capacity to ramp up testing. Is that where you work fella? Yes mate, we’re all on shutdown for the time being but I know 100s of us have volunteered to operate these machines if NHS lab staff drops too low.
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Post by estrangedsonoffaye on Mar 20, 2020 13:49:57 GMT
As I mentioned last night. We’ve not been called in a volunteers just yet but may be in the next few weeks. Shipped off our entire pcr capacity to ramp up testing. What’s PCR? They look like printers. I’ve answered it in full above, but they allow amplification of a target sequence of generic material to a measurable level. In other words, they take the material from the swab, amplify it and tell you if there is viral genetic material in there (as viruses harness our own genetic machinery to replicate).
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Post by musik on Mar 20, 2020 13:50:27 GMT
Perhaps they should have left some bigger gaps then you didn't say that in your first post. I couldn't tell if you were objecting to them for being over 70, going shopping or getting up before you in the morning:-) It just seemed bizarre that they’re all lined up when that’s the last thing they should be doing, apparently. It's the same here now, shops open up one hour earlier JUST for old people, so they don't mix with the young people, more likely to already having the disease. The idea is to protect the older one's, so you're missing the point.
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Post by zerps on Mar 20, 2020 13:58:37 GMT
I haven’t got curtains in my car. You would have used them instead? What else are they for?
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Post by Clayton Wood on Mar 20, 2020 13:58:40 GMT
Go on I'll be the first to ask! What are PCR machines? The Polymerase Chain Reaction is a way of amplifying genetic material from a small starting amount, directed at particular sequence of RNA or DNA. So in this case. the genetic material collected from swabs will be amplified in these machines and will be assessed for the virus sequence giving you a positive or negative test result. These machines take about 30-120mins (depending on what you are doing) to do one plate which can contain up to 384 individual reactions, though not all reactions will be a separate coronavirus test as you need to make controls etc. Cheers. Is this used in research in asymptomatic sufferers to prove if antibody immunity is effective?
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Post by zerps on Mar 20, 2020 14:00:17 GMT
It just seemed bizarre that they’re all lined up when that’s the last thing they should be doing, apparently. It's the same here now, shops open up one hour earlier JUST for old people, so they don't mix with the young people, more likely to already having the disease. The idea is to protect the older one's, so you're missing the point. The shop was closed. You’re missing the point. It opened normal time for everyone. People were queuing outside a closed shop for no reason with no “distancing”
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Post by estrangedsonoffaye on Mar 20, 2020 14:03:24 GMT
The Polymerase Chain Reaction is a way of amplifying genetic material from a small starting amount, directed at particular sequence of RNA or DNA. So in this case. the genetic material collected from swabs will be amplified in these machines and will be assessed for the virus sequence giving you a positive or negative test result. These machines take about 30-120mins (depending on what you are doing) to do one plate which can contain up to 384 individual reactions, though not all reactions will be a separate coronavirus test as you need to make controls etc. Cheers. Is this used in research in asymptomatic sufferers to prove if antibody immunity is effective? So at the moment I think this is just for the swab test which collects from the nose and mouth. If we were testing asymptomatic cases, with enough refinement this would show it. But there are limitations on the test without symptoms. The antibody test which isn’t in public use yet will likely be quantified using something called an ELISA (Enzyme Linked Immunosorbent Assay) which tells you how how strongly an antibody binds to a target protein, strong binding means strong affinity which likely confers to immunity. It could be they have a different method though, but that’s how antibody titres and immunity are normally measures. So pink line in this context would mean, never infected, blue line would mean immunity.
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Post by march4 on Mar 20, 2020 14:10:46 GMT
At the end of the day though, even those companies who're behaving badly keep people in work. Tim Martin may be colossal ringpiece, but Wetherspoon currently employ over 40,000 people. He's keeping people in work and he's still making money, Dave. Staff are at risk on a daily basis but it's a lose-lose situation. Tim Martin isn't a philanthropist, he's a businessman and his first thought is for himself. However, I fully appreciate the dilemma his staff are facing and wish them all the best. Somehow govt need to protect these workers so that this type of business can suspend opening until it is safe to reopen.
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Post by Clayton Wood on Mar 20, 2020 14:11:42 GMT
Cheers. Is this used in research in asymptomatic sufferers to prove if antibody immunity is effective? So at the moment I think this is just for the swab test which collects from the nose and mouth. If we were testing asymptomatic cases, with enough refinement this would show it. But there are limitations on the test without symptoms. The antibody test which isn’t in public use yet will likely be quantified using something called an ELISA (Enzyme Linked Immunosorbent Assay) which tells you how how strongly an antibody binds to a target protein, strong binding means strong affinity which likely confers to immunity. It could be they have a different method though, but that’s how antibody titres and immunity are normally measures. So pink line in this context would mean, never infected, blue line would mean immunity. Thanks for that mate and taking the time out of what must be a very busy and stressful time. I think my O levels in chemistry and biology have just had a major upgrade
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Post by musik on Mar 20, 2020 14:13:43 GMT
It's the same here now, shops open up one hour earlier JUST for old people, so they don't mix with the young people, more likely to already having the disease. The idea is to protect the older one's, so you're missing the point. The shop was closed. You’re missing the point. It opened normal time for everyone. People were queuing outside a closed shop for no reason with no “distancing” Really? Normal time for EVERYONE? Old people always want to be on time. That's why there was a queue. They're worried it will take them too much time from where they stood/sat, to the entrance. They're also scared as hell the food will end. I know some who always want to be at least one hour before any appointment. It's in their spine, zerps. IF it's normal for the young people to go to the supermarket when it opens, then the queueing was a bad idea. But maybe they have seen a pattern, it's not normal? Then the queue in a way was understandable. I'd suggest they've tried the last half an hour on Sunday night (if it's open then). Noone shops then around here, except me ...
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Post by estrangedsonoffaye on Mar 20, 2020 14:13:50 GMT
So at the moment I think this is just for the swab test which collects from the nose and mouth. If we were testing asymptomatic cases, with enough refinement this would show it. But there are limitations on the test without symptoms. The antibody test which isn’t in public use yet will likely be quantified using something called an ELISA (Enzyme Linked Immunosorbent Assay) which tells you how how strongly an antibody binds to a target protein, strong binding means strong affinity which likely confers to immunity. It could be they have a different method though, but that’s how antibody titres and immunity are normally measures. So pink line in this context would mean, never infected, blue line would mean immunity. Thanks for that mate and taking the time out of what must be a very busy and stressful time. I think my O levels in chemistry and biology have just had a major upgrade No problem at all mate, happy to help.
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Post by march4 on Mar 20, 2020 14:16:35 GMT
Someone has just pushed a lovely note through my door saying they can offer help with shopping, etc. They have left their mobile number and are willing just to chat to anyone feeling lonely.
There are some incredibly kind folk in the world.
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Post by followyoudown on Mar 20, 2020 14:16:50 GMT
Social Distancing to last the whole year? (SkyNews) Presumably if games resume they'd still need security staff even behind closed doors? So a way of seeing games is to get a job with them! Are they badged? If and when games restart I think you can pretty much guarentee top two leagues will have every game available live.
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Post by march4 on Mar 20, 2020 14:17:51 GMT
In other countries the supermarkets have marked out boxes for people to queue in. This will keep them a safer distance apart.
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Post by zerps on Mar 20, 2020 14:20:57 GMT
The shop was closed. You’re missing the point. It opened normal time for everyone. People were queuing outside a closed shop for no reason with no “distancing” Really? Normal time for EVERYONE? Old people always want to be on time. That's why there was a queue. They're worried it will take them too much time from where they stood/sat, to the entrance. They're also scared as hell the food will end. I know some who always want to be at least one hour before any appointment. It's in their spine, zerps. IF it's normal for the young people to go to the supermarket when it opens, then the queueing was a bad idea. But maybe they have seen a pattern, it's not normal? Then the queue in a way was understandable. I'd suggest they've tried the last half an hour on Sunday night (if it's open then). Noone shops then around here, except me ... Normal time for everyone yes 😁
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Post by Deleted on Mar 20, 2020 14:23:31 GMT
Actors and athletes seem to have no problems getting tested. It's all around us. I think I've got it, my next door neighbour definitely seems to have it. A number of people in my office are ill all with the symptoms.
We need massive large scale testing.
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Post by Seymour Beaver on Mar 20, 2020 14:28:31 GMT
According to Public Health England the average number of deaths in England of winter flu for the last 5 seasons 2014/15 to 2018/19 was 17000 deaths annually. Ranging from 1692 in 2018/19 to 28330 deaths in 2014/15. I back our remarkable scientists and medical experts and really hope the estimated 20k figure of fatalities is accurate as it sounded much worse expectancy a few days ago. But like some others I think something doesn't sit right. Going on the numbers it just doesnt reflect the need to financially strangling the nation with the measures that have and are being put into place and the panic it brings. It will take years to recover from this tens of thousands of businesses will go under and hundreds of thousands of people will lose their jobs in the UK. The whole of the western world is in turmoil when this pandemic is finally over. This is an excellent point, the numbers simply do not add up and btw we still don't know how , why or where this virus originated. What we do know is that fear and panic are the best way to control people and make totalitarian changes to society. You have to ask who is going to suffer in this. Losers a) small businesses, zero hour non-contracted workers, low income, people who have paid into pensions all of their lives being robbed, people with underlying health conditions who are seemingly dispensable (many of whom would die from flu, but others who wouldn't) Winners a) big global corporations b) world leaders who turn into heroes overnight the crashing of the economy will greatly benefit some ( a small minority of course) and seriously disadvantage others. I sit and mull over some of these numbers a lot at the end of which my head usually hurts and I'm never sure whether to be depressed or encouraged. I read the other day that typically 500,000 people die in the UK every year - from one thing or another. In 2018 it was actually 550,000. Ie fifty thousand deaths that would not normally be expected - mainly due to extreme cold weather, a round of seasonal flu etc. But apart from the statisticisns and the undertakers no-one noticed. If we therefore manage to keep C19 deaths down to 20k we could find ourselves in a position that for the UK as a whole had 30k less deaths in total in 2020 than in 2018 - or even more as presumably this year there will be fewer road deaths, industrial accidents etc. Who knows what the outcome will be -as if we end up having 250,000 additional deaths (ie 750,000 in total) that will be a terrible toll. However may also end up in a position of something that nett/nett is not much different than an ordinary year. That's the stats - the morality though is how do you stand by and watch people die from something which if the right equipment and trained staff were available then it would be avoidable. (Note: TB and Malaria combined kill 1.5 million people globally per annum - most of which in the west - where few people give it a second thought - would be either preventable or treatable).
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Post by Gods on Mar 20, 2020 14:28:34 GMT
'18 months' don't even whisper it, the first 18 hours did for me :-(
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Post by estrangedsonoffaye on Mar 20, 2020 14:28:59 GMT
Actors and athletes seem to have no problems getting tested. It's all around us. I think I've got it, my next door neighbour definitely seems to have it. A number of people in my office are ill all with the symptoms. We need massive large scale testing. For a lot, I think the horse has bolted and they’ll have to take the post virus test to get any confirmation. It’s true though, testing during and post hoc is the only way we can even begin to scale back measures.
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Post by Seymour Beaver on Mar 20, 2020 14:30:08 GMT
Someone has just pushed a lovely note through my door saying they can offer help with shopping, etc. They have left their mobile number and are willing just to chat to anyone feeling lonely. There are some incredibly kind folk in the world. My Dad had one today too.
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Post by zerps on Mar 20, 2020 14:32:22 GMT
Someone has just pushed a lovely note through my door saying they can offer help with shopping, etc. They have left their mobile number and are willing just to chat to anyone feeling lonely. There are some incredibly kind folk in the world. My Dad had one today too. That’s awesome tbf
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