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Post by Laughing Gravy on Mar 20, 2020 11:15:20 GMT
This letter was printed in this mornings John O'Groat Journal website without redactions and names the recipient as Alvaro Garcia Quintas and the sender as Mark Johnston the Holding General Manager at the Coylumbridge Hotel Aviemore. The full report can be found at www.johnogroat-journal.co.uk/news/hotel-sacks-30-eu-nationals-amid-coronavirus-downturn-194252/In the report there is a statement from the chief executive of the Scottish Tourism Alliance "We applaud the swift actions of Macdonald Hotels to offer jobs and accommodation to all of those affected by the closure of Britannia Hotels in Aviemore." Somebody should be compiling a list of all the businesses who behave like this and ones who behave honourably during this crisis and then when it's over have a day of reckoning and make sure the 'right' companies go to the wall and the decent ones get a chance to rebuild.
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Post by Davef on Mar 20, 2020 11:30:38 GMT
This letter was printed in this mornings John O'Groat Journal website without redactions and names the recipient as Alvaro Garcia Quintas and the sender as Mark Johnston the Holding General Manager at the Coylumbridge Hotel Aviemore. The full report can be found at www.johnogroat-journal.co.uk/news/hotel-sacks-30-eu-nationals-amid-coronavirus-downturn-194252/In the report there is a statement from the chief executive of the Scottish Tourism Alliance "We applaud the swift actions of Macdonald Hotels to offer jobs and accommodation to all of those affected by the closure of Britannia Hotels in Aviemore." Somebody should be compiling a list of all the businesses who behave like this and ones who behave honourably during this crisis and then when it's over have a day of reckoning and make sure the 'right' companies go to the wall and the decent ones get a chance to rebuild. At the end of the day though, even those companies who're behaving badly keep people in work. Tim Martin may be colossal ringpiece, but Wetherspoon currently employ over 40,000 people.
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Post by Gods on Mar 20, 2020 11:32:56 GMT
Let's hope Fiesta Readers Wives doesn't go the same way.
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Post by jimmygscfc1234 on Mar 20, 2020 11:35:02 GMT
Somebody should be compiling a list of all the businesses who behave like this and ones who behave honourably during this crisis and then when it's over have a day of reckoning and make sure the 'right' companies go to the wall and the decent ones get a chance to rebuild. At the end of the day though, even those companies who're behaving badly keep people in work. Tim Martin may be colossal ringpiece, but Wetherspoon currently employ over 40,000 people. He's keeping people in work and he's still making money, Dave. Staff are at risk on a daily basis but it's a lose-lose situation. Tim Martin isn't a philanthropist, he's a businessman and his first thought is for himself. However, I fully appreciate the dilemma his staff are facing and wish them all the best.
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Post by spitthedog on Mar 20, 2020 11:45:11 GMT
My advice is avoid Big Supermarkets
There are plenty of small shops with produce, I just went to a local Co-op 2 people in it and loads of food, I went to an wholefood shop I bought Pasta, Flour and Porridge (Yes I do use these regularly...it's what I normally eat!!!) no problem, zero queue....prices were fine. Isn't it worth it. Did my whole weeks shopping in 15 minutes with fresh veg. I also paid in cash.
Supermarkets are
a) the best place to catch a Virus
b) are mostly empty of essential produce, time consuming, demoralising and full of panic...they are just a massive source of anxiety and tension and bring out the worst in the human race
Why do people put themselves through such crap needlessly?
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Post by OldStokie on Mar 20, 2020 11:49:18 GMT
So my pension plan is a nearby flat that I rent out to a lovely couple who work in the now almost totally defunct service industry. I spoke to them a couple of days ago and dropped the rent substantially, the fact is given the base rate news, I may be able to do more now. This isn't great for me but I am in a good place compared to a lot of people on this board. So what's my point? My point is that the government should be asking all landlords who can to do the same, to do exactly that. Not just that but the really big landlords should be leading the charge and making a gesture that others can follow, Prince Charles, The Duke of Westminster, Robbie Fowler whoever. Why is there silence on this issue. We need a high profile landlord to step up and show a lead on this! I thought that detailed news on the provisions that are to be made was coming tomorrow (well today now). I also feel sure that over the coming days (weeks and months? Pray God not years) more will come.
I am in a similar boat - my main income these days is my rental. Should that source of income cease, I have problems. Should my tenant get into difficulties re this virus, I most certainly will not be taking eviction proceedings. Ever. Let us see what tomorrow brings. We are all in this mess together - why not us all try and "get by", until the mess ends. We can sort the details later.
I have already received an email from my credit card company stating that I do not need to apply for help with a "repayment holiday", everything is in place. If I miss payments, nothing will happen, no charges, penalties or surcharges. I wasn't expecting that! Unlike other people on here I do not have a wife and kids to feed (Been there done that, for most of my life). I fully expect my fully fledged children to turn to the Bank of Dad, if things get bad (they do have wives and kids to feed). They will not be let down - I have my credit card As I said, we can sort the details out later. We all look at other nationalities and admire their commitment to "family". "Family" isn't quite dead yet here in England.
OS doffs flat cap Clem. We are hearing a lot about the unselfish and greedy and the 'I'm alright Jacks', but very little about those like you, of which there are millions who share your principles. OS.
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Post by zerps on Mar 20, 2020 11:49:54 GMT
I've come to the conclusion he's a massive WUM mate doing it for attention. He did the same on the Joe Allen thread a few weeks back. Just ignore him and starve him of the oxygen of attention he craves. I was right about Joe Allen and you’ll never stop me trying to save the lives of septuagenarian‘s.
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Post by JoeinOz on Mar 20, 2020 11:50:00 GMT
World snooker championship postponed
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Post by zerps on Mar 20, 2020 11:53:18 GMT
Let's hope Fiesta Readers Wives doesn't go the same way. Is that still a thing?
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Post by s7oke on Mar 20, 2020 11:54:57 GMT
Let's hope Fiesta Readers Wives doesn't go the same way. And Razzle
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Post by raythesailor on Mar 20, 2020 11:56:14 GMT
This letter was printed in this mornings John O'Groat Journal website without redactions and names the recipient as Alvaro Garcia Quintas and the sender as Mark Johnston the Holding General Manager at the Coylumbridge Hotel Aviemore. The full report can be found at www.johnogroat-journal.co.uk/news/hotel-sacks-30-eu-nationals-amid-coronavirus-downturn-194252/In the report there is a statement from the chief executive of the Scottish Tourism Alliance "We applaud the swift actions of Macdonald Hotels to offer jobs and accommodation to all of those affected by the closure of Britannia Hotels in Aviemore." Somebody should be compiling a list of all the businesses who behave like this and ones who behave honourably during this crisis and then when it's over have a day of reckoning and make sure the 'right' companies go to the wall and the decent ones get a chance to rebuild. Unbelievably bad. I hope this goes viral and they get what they deserve. At a time when this situation is starting to bring out the best and community spirit in people ( unfortunately not all ) they should hang their heads in shame. I hope they get looted and somebody takes all their Loo Rolls!!
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Post by themistocles on Mar 20, 2020 11:57:43 GMT
Britain should take not of how the itallains are conducting themselves. Stand by for draconion measures if this ludicrous behaviour in the country continues.
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Post by Gods on Mar 20, 2020 12:01:16 GMT
Let's hope Fiesta Readers Wives doesn't go the same way. Is that still a thing? Not sure, I still have a pile of well thumbed copies in the loft, along with 12 tons of lavatory paper! (Only joking folks)
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Post by AlliG on Mar 20, 2020 12:01:34 GMT
Just been out food shopping for my elderly mother (hope she doesn't read that description or she will kill me!) The supermarket had no milk, bread, toilet rolls etc as expected, but, there were no biscuits on the shelves! Who panic buys biscuits? I guess when this is all over we will be able to easily identify the panic buyers and hoarders. It is her birthday today and as she is no longer able to go out for her planned celebration meal with her sisters, I am just off to the chip shop to buy them fish and chips which I will pass through the door and scarper. One silver lining is that I don't have to sit and listen to 3 ladies telling each over that it wasn't like this during the war!
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Post by spitthedog on Mar 20, 2020 12:02:53 GMT
Tough one isn't it. My guess is there will be a valid debate on this topic when the dust settles on this lot. I think they said seasonal flu kill 8000 per year, the Chief Medical Officer said we are gunning for 20,000 here so about 2.5 times the regular annual flu. Of course you could argue it would be an awful lot more had we not taken these extraordinary measures. According to Public Health England the average number of deaths in England of winter flu for the last 5 seasons 2014/15 to 2018/19 was 17000 deaths annually. Ranging from 1692 in 2018/19 to 28330 deaths in 2014/15. I back our remarkable scientists and medical experts and really hope the estimated 20k figure of fatalities is accurate as it sounded much worse expectancy a few days ago. But like some others I think something doesn't sit right. Going on the numbers it just doesnt reflect the need to financially strangling the nation with the measures that have and are being put into place and the panic it brings. It will take years to recover from this tens of thousands of businesses will go under and hundreds of thousands of people will lose their jobs in the UK. The whole of the western world is in turmoil when this pandemic is finally over. This is an excellent point, the numbers simply do not add up and btw we still don't know how , why or where this virus originated. What we do know is that fear and panic are the best way to control people and make totalitarian changes to society. You have to ask who is going to suffer in this. Losers a) small businesses, zero hour non-contracted workers, low income, people who have paid into pensions all of their lives being robbed, people with underlying health conditions who are seemingly dispensable (many of whom would die from flu, but others who wouldn't) Winners a) big global corporations b) world leaders who turn into heroes overnight the crashing of the economy will greatly benefit some ( a small minority of course) and seriously disadvantage others.
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Post by somersetstokie on Mar 20, 2020 12:06:39 GMT
J D Witherspoon's boss wants them to stay open using the logic there's less people in the pub than a supermarket! And of course Wetherspoons are well known for their high standards of Hygiene.
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Post by Paul Spencer on Mar 20, 2020 12:09:21 GMT
I am certainly no fan of Piers Morgan but he's right here, isn't he?
This is utterly reckless talk from Martin.
A Sky news reporter has just been on, saying that they have repeatedly asked the government if it is true, that there has been very little transmission of the virus in pubs but they won't provide an answer, or condemn Martin's remarks.
No wonder, people are still in the pubs.
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Post by OldStokie on Mar 20, 2020 12:11:17 GMT
Somebody should be compiling a list of all the businesses who behave like this and ones who behave honourably during this crisis and then when it's over have a day of reckoning and make sure the 'right' companies go to the wall and the decent ones get a chance to rebuild. At the end of the day though, even those companies who're behaving badly keep people in work. Tim Martin may be colossal ringpiece, but Wetherspoon currently employ over 40,000 people. You're right David. Tim Martin is like castor oil... horrible to take but with benefits. OS. Edit: Not sure I want to take castor oil now though even though it does have some pragmatic benefits.
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Post by leicspotter on Mar 20, 2020 12:19:09 GMT
At the end of the day though, even those companies who're behaving badly keep people in work. Tim Martin may be colossal ringpiece, but Wetherspoon currently employ over 40,000 people. You're right David. Tim Martin is like castor oil... horrible to take but with benefits. OS. Edit: Not sure I want to take castor oil now though even though it does have some pragmatic benefits. The next "panic buy" item?
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Post by DunnetHeadMoonraker on Mar 20, 2020 12:23:41 GMT
Somebody should be compiling a list of all the businesses who behave like this and ones who behave honourably during this crisis and then when it's over have a day of reckoning and make sure the 'right' companies go to the wall and the decent ones get a chance to rebuild. At the end of the day though, even those companies who're behaving badly keep people in work. Tim Martin may be colossal ringpiece, but Wetherspoon currently employ over 40,000 people. Update on the Coylumbridge hotel in Aviemore letter laying off 30 workers with immediate effect. It seems that they are having a recruitment day next Saturday. Also from todays online John O'Groat Journal www.johnogroat-journal.co.uk/news/highland-hotel-at-centre-of-redundancies-storm-is-recruiting-new-staff-194291/
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Post by Pedropotter on Mar 20, 2020 12:27:33 GMT
World snooker championship postponed oooooooh thats a bad miss!
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Post by Laughing Gravy on Mar 20, 2020 12:32:43 GMT
Somebody should be compiling a list of all the businesses who behave like this and ones who behave honourably during this crisis and then when it's over have a day of reckoning and make sure the 'right' companies go to the wall and the decent ones get a chance to rebuild. At the end of the day though, even those companies who're behaving badly keep people in work. Tim Martin may be colossal ringpiece, but Wetherspoon currently employ over 40,000 people. Yes fair point.
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Post by Laughing Gravy on Mar 20, 2020 12:34:37 GMT
I've come to the conclusion he's a massive WUM mate doing it for attention. He did the same on the Joe Allen thread a few weeks back. Just ignore him and starve him of the oxygen of attention he craves. I was right about Joe Allen and you’ll never stop me trying to save the lives of septuagenarian‘s. You could try not being a complete nob about it though.
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Post by zerps on Mar 20, 2020 12:47:31 GMT
I was right about Joe Allen and you’ll never stop me trying to save the lives of septuagenarian‘s. You could try not being a complete nob about it though. It’s called tough love. Dm me for more detail.
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Post by Laughing Gravy on Mar 20, 2020 12:50:35 GMT
You could try not being a complete nob about it though. It’s called tough love. Dm me for more detail. No thanks.
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Post by FranktheRabbit on Mar 20, 2020 12:53:11 GMT
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Post by neworleanstokie on Mar 20, 2020 12:55:25 GMT
Chatted via text to 2 of my closest friends last night - both Doctors (ER and Internal Med). The ER Dr is self isolating with C-19 symptoms, test back tomorrow. The Int Med Dr described a horrific situation in LA with lack or preparation and supplies, and this is just the beginning. But yet another day of no government action not just in the UK but many other places. Action is not only requiring SI but also providing financial assurances to people in need and businesses.
And I wish people/media would stop saying "lockdown" - there is no such thing and I'm 2 miles from Times Sq as a point of reference. It's "self isolating" or "shelter in place" - lockdown just creates fear. By now I hope you are all either SI or vital workers are going to/from work. If you are SI you are doing your bit to help those vital workers who are on the front line (this from my Dr friends).
Anything else and you are simply increasing the risk of a very painful death for others.
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Post by Davef on Mar 20, 2020 12:58:36 GMT
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Post by maxplonk on Mar 20, 2020 13:05:53 GMT
This may (in part) be due to increased testing. Bavarian govt. has just announced stricter limitations on going out which will start tonight.
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Post by Mr_DaftBurger on Mar 20, 2020 13:13:57 GMT
Social Distancing to last the whole year? (SkyNews)
Presumably if games resume they'd still need security staff even behind closed doors? So a way of seeing games is to get a job with them! Are they badged?
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