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Post by franklin on Dec 30, 2020 22:35:40 GMT
Another laughable scare tactic. Photo-shoppin Spanish nurse's from months ago - it's the new news. Its embarrassing and if im honest it does a disservice to the real message.
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Post by Soro's Sorrows on Dec 30, 2020 22:39:45 GMT
This has already started to happen in the North staffs hospital👍 Do you have any evidence that a vaccine approved today is being delivered in the North Staffs Hospital today?
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on Dec 30, 2020 22:40:42 GMT
Well apart from the fact that there isn't millions of Oxford vaccines sitting in hospitals around the country and the NHS could not vaccinate the entire front line staff by Monday, I agree with everything else in your retweet. You really need to engage your brain before retweeting the seemingly endless shit that you do. Wow... Dr Phil Hammond a leading frontline GP? I'd say the shit's coming out of your keyboard matey.
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Post by smallthorner on Dec 30, 2020 22:44:09 GMT
Never thought I'd be praising Middle Eastern regimes for allowing greater freedoms than my own country.. What on earth is happening? It's great here in Dubai. The authorities recognise the economy and peoples livelihoods are far more important than what is, comparative to those of years gone by, a mild flu. Its great to see. They are basically ignoring covid bollocks as they appreciate there are more important things in life. Economic hardship results in mass slaughter - only a genuine idiot could disagree. The pubs are open till 4am and its pretty much life as normal. Disgusting post. On so many levels. Go down Inter City and ask the Keralans who built the city about Covid.
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Post by lordb on Dec 30, 2020 22:45:58 GMT
Never thought I'd be praising Middle Eastern regimes for allowing greater freedoms than my own country.. What on earth is happening? It's great here in Dubai. The authorities recognise the economy and peoples livelihoods are far more important than what is, comparative to those of years gone by, a mild flu. Its great to see. They are basically ignoring covid bollocks as they appreciate there are more important things in life. Economic hardship results in mass slaughter - only a genuine idiot could disagree. The pubs are open till 4am and its pretty much life as normal. Disgusting post. On so many levels. Go down Inter City and ask the Keralans who built the city about Covid. 'a mild flu' You absolute shyster.
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Post by butlerstbob on Dec 30, 2020 22:46:01 GMT
This has already started to happen in the North staffs hospital👍 Do you have any evidence that a vaccine approved today is being delivered in the North Staffs Hospital today? I should have been clear I didn't mean it was the vaccine approved today All I know is a friend that works at the hospital has told me he has had the vaccine, so I doubt it to be the Oxford vaccine.
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Post by Soro's Sorrows on Dec 30, 2020 22:47:01 GMT
Well apart from the fact that there isn't millions of Oxford vaccines sitting in hospitals around the country and the NHS could not vaccinate the entire front line staff by Monday, I agree with everything else in your retweet. You really need to engage your brain before retweeting the seemingly endless shit that you do. Wow... Dr Phil Hammond a leading frontline GP? I'd say the shit's coming out of your keyboard matey. So we have 4 million doses of the Oxford Vaccine sitting in hospitals all over the UK do we? We have hundreds of thousands of front line NHS Staff that are available to be vaccinated by Monday do we? Have a word with yourself you complete and utter dickhead!
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on Dec 30, 2020 22:50:01 GMT
Probably best to assume we will all be stuck in tier 4 till April if not later - hospital capacity will be the justification regardless of the fact it's near capacity and in 'crisis' most winters. A horrific few months ahead. To be fair it’s exactly as many of the experts said last March but the government maxhkgn didn’t want to acknowledge Three worsening waves with any semblance of normality late 21 earliest pair vaccine 22 something like . It’s just the government machine didn’t feel the direct approach was the way Aj they went for bite size chunks and false dawns . What’s happened is Spanish flu all over
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Post by Bojan Mackey on Dec 30, 2020 22:52:27 GMT
Personally I think it will have plateaued as it naturally burnt itself out. Instead, we now have a faster spreading new variant that was allowed to thrive by these very lockdowns people are clamouring for due to people not being allowed out to boost their immune systems and having to sanitise their hands constantly. But yeah let’s have another one, the other 27 this year have worked really well. Why do you think you know better than people who work in intensive care units? They are the ones dealing with the impact of people who ignore the rules and they are pleading with us to follow the rules. Where have I said I think I know better? I was asked for my opinion, which I provided.
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Post by Bojan Mackey on Dec 30, 2020 22:54:00 GMT
Chuck me some scrubs then. If I get it and fucking die it’s a win win either way for me.
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Post by Soro's Sorrows on Dec 30, 2020 22:54:16 GMT
Do you have any evidence that a vaccine approved today is being delivered in the North Staffs Hospital today? I should have been clear I didn't mean it was the vaccine approved today All I know is a friend that works at the hospital has told me he has had the vaccine, so I doubt it to be the Oxford vaccine. You were commenting on Huddysleftbollox retweet, so you are only serving disinformation. The tweet was stating that 4 million Oxford vaccines were ready and you said they were already being done in North staffs. Admin need to pay more attention to people like you and Huddysleftbollox and stop your disinformation. It's really fucking dangerous
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on Dec 30, 2020 22:54:49 GMT
Wow... Dr Phil Hammond a leading frontline GP? I'd say the shit's coming out of your keyboard matey. So we have 4 million doses of the Oxford Vaccine sitting in hospitals all over the UK do we? We have hundreds of thousands of front line NHS Staff that are available to be vaccinated by Monday do we? Have a word with yourself you complete and utter dickhead! Calm down youth.
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Post by Soro's Sorrows on Dec 30, 2020 22:58:19 GMT
So we have 4 million doses of the Oxford Vaccine sitting in hospitals all over the UK do we? We have hundreds of thousands of front line NHS Staff that are available to be vaccinated by Monday do we? Have a word with yourself you complete and utter dickhead! Calm down youth. You are spreading disinformation, it needs to be called out! You really need to consider the things you post.
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Post by oggyoggy on Dec 30, 2020 22:58:27 GMT
Why do you think you know better than people who work in intensive care units? They are the ones dealing with the impact of people who ignore the rules and they are pleading with us to follow the rules. Where have I said I think I know better? I was asked for my opinion, which I provided. You are saying we shouldn’t bother having any lockdown. Not only do all countries who have dealt with it well completely disprove that theory, I suggest you speak to ICU staff or listen or read the multiple interviews they have been doing. Your opinion may then change.
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on Dec 30, 2020 22:58:36 GMT
I should have been clear I didn't mean it was the vaccine approved today All I know is a friend that works at the hospital has told me he has had the vaccine, so I doubt it to be the Oxford vaccine. You were commenting on Huddysleftbollox retweet, so you are only serving disinformation. The tweet was stating that 4 million Oxford vaccines were ready and you said they were already being done in North staffs. Admin need to pay more attention to people like you and Huddysleftbollox and stop your disinformation. It's really fucking dangerous Feel free to provide me with facts to the contrary, Sorrosshitferbrains.
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Post by butlerstbob on Dec 30, 2020 23:00:21 GMT
I should have been clear I didn't mean it was the vaccine approved today All I know is a friend that works at the hospital has told me he has had the vaccine, so I doubt it to be the Oxford vaccine. You were commenting on Huddysleftbollox retweet, so you are only serving disinformation. The tweet was stating that 4 million Oxford vaccines were ready and you said they were already being done in North staffs. Admin need to pay more attention to people like you and Huddysleftbollox and stop your disinformation. It's really fucking dangerous I was quoting benji actually so maybe get your facts right Mr angry!
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Post by oggyoggy on Dec 30, 2020 23:01:50 GMT
You are spreading disinformation, it needs to be called out! You really need to consider the things you post. I thought we do have the 4 million Oxford vaccines we asked Netherlands and Germany to prepare for us (as our production line was not ready or able to immediately) ready. They should be used without any delay.
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Post by Bojan Mackey on Dec 30, 2020 23:01:57 GMT
Where have I said I think I know better? I was asked for my opinion, which I provided. You are saying we shouldn’t bother having any lockdown. Not only do all countries who have dealt with it well completely disprove that theory, I suggest you speak to ICU staff or listen or read the multiple interviews they have been doing. Your opinion may then change. Our own Wezza on here works amongst it and has had it himself, and he shares much the same opinion as myself and others. My missus also works in a care home as well and sees it daily, can confirm my opinion hasn’t changed and won’t change.
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on Dec 30, 2020 23:09:11 GMT
You were commenting on Huddysleftbollox retweet, so you are only serving disinformation. The tweet was stating that 4 million Oxford vaccines were ready and you said they were already being done in North staffs. Admin need to pay more attention to people like you and Huddysleftbollox and stop your disinformation. It's really fucking dangerous I was quoting benji actually so maybe get your facts right Mr angry! To be clear you weren’t to here referring to nhs vaccination if key nhs staff with the Pfizer vaccine I was referring to swift roll out of the Oxford vaccine ie whet wait until the 4th .
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Post by oggyoggy on Dec 30, 2020 23:10:31 GMT
You are saying we shouldn’t bother having any lockdown. Not only do all countries who have dealt with it well completely disprove that theory, I suggest you speak to ICU staff or listen or read the multiple interviews they have been doing. Your opinion may then change. Our own Wezza on here works amongst it and has had it himself, and he shares much the same opinion as myself and others. My missus also works in a care home as well and sees it daily, can confirm my opinion hasn’t changed and won’t change. Friends of mine (doctors at 2 separate hospitals in London, the worst and second worst affected hospitals in the country at the first peak) were very close to having to implement their backup plan at the first peak of no longer giving ventilators to anyone over 60. I haven’t spoken to them recently but we are approaching that level of overstretched resources once more it seems, but across many parts of the country. Also how do you explain the better health and economic performance of every nation who locked down fast and hard compared with ours? Clearly locking down to effectively eliminate the virus was the thing to do. It’s obvious. Our economy and obviously people’s health, has suffered more as a result of our failure to do that.
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Post by Soro's Sorrows on Dec 30, 2020 23:16:12 GMT
You were commenting on Huddysleftbollox retweet, so you are only serving disinformation. The tweet was stating that 4 million Oxford vaccines were ready and you said they were already being done in North staffs. Admin need to pay more attention to people like you and Huddysleftbollox and stop your disinformation. It's really fucking dangerous I was quoting benji actually so maybe get your facts right Mr angry! You were quoting Benji and agreeing with Huddy's disinformation post. Hundreds of thousands of people have received the Pfizer vaccine over the last few weeks, many of which were in Stoke. Get your facts right. This sort of disinformation will be very damaging to the whole vaccination program. It has to stop!
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Post by Gods on Dec 30, 2020 23:24:04 GMT
Do you think we are heading for a national lockdown, a proper one I mean?
I very much hope not but this new variant is an absolute ripper.
Down here in Surrey about 5 weeks ago we were aware of a problem in neighbouring Kent but cases were bumping along here at about 50 per 100,000, well now after 2 weeks in Tier 4 they are at 900 per 100,000 and rising.
It seems to have moved from Kent to London to the rest of the South East, on up to the Midlands and is knocking on the door of Staffordshire. Perhaps it will stop there but I wouldn't bet on it.
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Post by Soro's Sorrows on Dec 30, 2020 23:31:06 GMT
You were commenting on Huddysleftbollox retweet, so you are only serving disinformation. The tweet was stating that 4 million Oxford vaccines were ready and you said they were already being done in North staffs. Admin need to pay more attention to people like you and Huddysleftbollox and stop your disinformation. It's really fucking dangerous Feel free to provide me with facts to the contrary, Sorrosshitferbrains. You want me to prove that there are not 4 million doses of Oxford Vaccine sitting in Hospitals around the UK at this very minute? That we could not provide every doctor and nurse with a vaccine by Monday? You really do think that the whole fucking country is conspsiring against you. Just think for a minute about the numbers, the logistics involved, the manpower involved, even if there were 4 million doses available on site it is not not doable. I am done conversing with you, you are obviously not capable of reasonable thought, your hatred of the Tory Party has driven you beyond rational. Goodnight and goodbye!
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Post by danceswithclams on Dec 30, 2020 23:41:20 GMT
Do you think we are heading for a national lockdown, a proper one I mean? I very much hope not but this new variant is an absolute ripper. Down here in Surrey about 5 weeks ago we were aware of a problem in neighbouring Kent but cases were bumping along here at about 50 per 100,000, well now after 2 weeks in Tier 4 they are at 900 per 100,000 and rising. It seems to have moved from Kent to London to the rest of the South East, on up to the Midlands and is knocking on the door of Staffordshire. Perhaps it will stop there but I wouldn't bet on it. I'd be willing to put money on us still having to endure some form of lockdown this time next year. This shit has no end as long as this bunch of corrupt, incompetent fucking arseholes are in charge.
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Post by partickpotter on Dec 31, 2020 1:18:29 GMT
Said before it’s plani daft they aren’t using commercial and private options ( I know this was tongue in cheek ) but if speed is the priority NHS alone isn’t the answer . What? They awarded the track and trace contracts to private companies at a cost of 100s of millions and its a complete farce and you want private firms giving covid jabs to people of this country? They can't get a bloody App right so I sure as hell wouldn't trust some private firm with hired help putting a needle in my arm! You are aware that private companies created the vaccines underpinned by advanced orders (ie contracts) from this Government (among others). Oh, and I guess you’d turn your nose up against Tesco’s offer of using their resources to help in the mass distribution of the vaccine... Tesco offers to help with roll-out of Oxford vaccine
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Post by scfcbiancorossi on Dec 31, 2020 2:10:39 GMT
Never thought I'd be praising Middle Eastern regimes for allowing greater freedoms than my own country.. What on earth is happening? It's great here in Dubai. The authorities recognise the economy and peoples livelihoods are far more important than what is, comparative to those of years gone by, a mild flu. Its great to see. They are basically ignoring covid bollocks as they appreciate there are more important things in life. Economic hardship results in mass slaughter - only a genuine idiot could disagree. The pubs are open till 4am and its pretty much life as normal. Our hospitals are near enough full. We have a massive shortage of staff. Why do you think you know more than the intensive care staff? They are always full at this time of year. We always have a shortage of staff! Can we not pretend this is something new mate.
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Post by liam007 on Dec 31, 2020 2:49:11 GMT
On a personal level and not really important to the nations health i really feel for my son who since lockdown turned 17 in Feb and started driving lessons then had to stop.Then started again and booked his theory only for that to be then cancelled due to restrictions.He did eventually pass that part and restart his driving lessons but today his driving test was cancelled next Wed morning due to tier 4 and now must wait until May 26th for the next available date.He has done everything right during this lockdown year,gets up at 4am to go and do and cleaning job at a supermarket,does his college Carpentry work but can't get a placement as still not 18 and Covid.He is so depressed and really unmotivated at the moment.This country is in real danger of a generation having their lives stopped before it even starts.I know it's a serious problem but it's affecting so many people's mental health and that is a life time illness.Have no answers and see both sides of every debate,but now getting fed up of seeing my loved one's suffer.Sad times for the world.
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Post by salopstick on Dec 31, 2020 5:37:17 GMT
This has already started to happen in the North staffs hospital👍 Do you have any evidence that a vaccine approved today is being delivered in the North Staffs Hospital today? They have started giving the pfizer one
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Post by werrington on Dec 31, 2020 7:31:33 GMT
Our hospitals are near enough full. We have a massive shortage of staff. Why do you think you know more than the intensive care staff? They are always full at this time of year. We always have a shortage of staff! Can we not pretend this is something new mate. Again I’ve been telling people this from the off Nobody denies the virus is here and nobody denies people get seriously ill or die from it ....believe me I’ve had first hand of both scenarios It’s the media coverage of it and the fact nobody is given a different take on it and the fact that as you say the hospitals are at breaking point EVERY SINGLE WINTER wether it be wards or ICU and how the numbers are counted and people just buy it And when people try and point this out we are just dismissed and the conversation is quickly moved on This government has ripped the funding away from it with 100s of wards shut and 1000s of nursing posts finished right across the country prior to all this happening and now they are willing us all to protect the nhs after they’ve tried to run it into the ground and privatise HUGE sections of it like they are some knight on a white horse and the media are letting them away with it all and discarding every single winter crisis prior to this one ...Paul Spencer posted the links yesterday That’s my take from somebody who works it so I’ll let people decide for themselves and I’ve no problem with that
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Post by franklin on Dec 31, 2020 7:53:50 GMT
They are always full at this time of year. We always have a shortage of staff! Can we not pretend this is something new mate. Again I’ve been telling people this from the off Nobody denies the virus is here and nobody denies people get seriously ill or die from it It’s the media coverage of it and the fact nobody is given a different take on it and the fact that as you say the hospitals are at breaking point EVERY SINGLE WINTER wether it be wards or ICU and how the numbers are counted and people just buy it And when people try and point this out we are just dismissed and the conversation is quickly moved on This government has ripped the funding away from it with 100s of wards shut and 1000s of nursing posts finished right across the country prior to all this happening and now they are willing us all to protect the nhs like they are some knight on a white horse and the media are letting them away with it all and discarding every single winter crisis prior to this one ...Paul Spencer posted the links yesterday That’s my take from somebody who works it so I’ll let people decide for themselves and I’ve no problem with that Mate I've been to the RSUH during a critical incident, every corridor at A&E full of beds waiting for admition, ambulances stacked up at the side door to A&E. I've seen St John's staff turning up and serving drinks to people waiting on ambulance beds its nothing new its terrible but happens all over the country but its no use explaining they dont want to accept it and would rather believe twitter because it suits their agenda.
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