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Post by yeswilko on Dec 17, 2020 19:57:59 GMT
Whatever people think of Farage he does somehow seem to have an ability to gauge very early the mood of the country, I'm certainly no fan but you can't dismiss him, The most influential British politician in decades, love him or loathe him. Single handedly producing the biggest democratic vote in the country's history was pretty special. The media are utterly petrified of him. They keep trying to censor him and keep him quiet but they just can't do it. The woke brigade want him dead. The big difference this time around is the number of middle england Tory votes up for grabs. I know countless Conservative for life party members that have vowed to never vote for this mob again after this horrifying year. With Labour somehow making themselves even more unelectable with basically everyone, Big Nige and Ricky T could cause a monumental upset. Starting in May's local elections 😉 Hahaha
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Post by StaffordPotter on Dec 17, 2020 19:59:01 GMT
Lockdowns don't work. Give us back our freedom and invest in protecting the vulnerable.
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Post by chad on Dec 17, 2020 20:01:41 GMT
Whilst I agree that the number of vaccines administered will need to increase significantly I expect to see this happen in the coming weeks. I think the pace will go up once the Oxford one is signed off and the number of sites administering it increases. Hopefully we get to a point where we have mobile units taking it to care homes and vaccinating residents en masse. Given the profile of deaths I think the first priority is to get the over 70s done. I think that’s around 9m people. Every one done is one less death. It’s like trying to turn around an oil tanker but there will come a tipping point to it. I hope we’re only a couple of months away from that point and then we can put this shitty year behind us. The first priority should be the 2m vulnerable people who received a letter back in the spring who had to self isolate for five months, regardless of their age. And of course anybody else's whose circumstances have changed who now find themselves in the vulnerable group. We're averaging around 325,000 PCR tests a day (400,000 were undertaken a few days ago). Ditch that waste of space and put the resources into the vaccination programme. Don’t agree with a lot of your posts Dave put that last point hits the nail on the head
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Post by yeswilko on Dec 17, 2020 20:02:39 GMT
Farage rimmers moaning about economic harm is properly funny.
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Post by Gary Hackett on Dec 17, 2020 20:02:43 GMT
Who is this? It sounds like it's written by an 8 year old.
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Post by Davef on Dec 17, 2020 20:18:06 GMT
This is an interesting development the day after the WHO notice. Deborah Cohen has done some decent work on Newsnight and it looks like, thanks to her efforts, they're going to delve deeper into the PCR testing...
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Post by starkiller on Dec 17, 2020 20:23:37 GMT
I think that the lawyer at the heart of this action against Drosten is the same man who brought the legal proceedings against Volkswagen over the emissions scandal. Here's the summary of the case. I posted this way back, but obviously got laughed out of town. And he was dismissed as a crank by the usual suspects. This is a re-upload because it's often taken down. Clearly, genocidal maniac Tedros doesn't like it, as he's named in this too.
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Post by numpty40 on Dec 17, 2020 20:55:13 GMT
I really do think that will change going into the new year, I've got absolutely no statistics to endorse that but I sense a noticeable change in attitudes from people I've spoken to. People have been saying that for 6 months 😂 I'm talking about real people, not internet people
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Post by numpty40 on Dec 17, 2020 21:06:19 GMT
Whatever people think of Farage he does somehow seem to have an ability to gauge very early the mood of the country, I'm certainly no fan but you can't dismiss him, He understands that most people don't pay a lot of attention to politics. He also quite obviously thinks most folk in this country are thick as mince To be fair the Brexit referendum focused attention for a great many people, sadly people who you don't agree with are branded 'thick as mince' . Maybe they're as thick as mince or maybe they reach out to a politician who doesn't treat them as thick as mince. Who knows?
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Post by andystokey on Dec 17, 2020 21:36:55 GMT
This is an interesting development the day after the WHO notice. Deborah Cohen has done some decent work on Newsnight and it looks like, thanks to her efforts, they're going to delve deeper into the PCR testing... 6 months too late but I guess it's a step in the right direction. Do these MSM journalists live under a rock or are they genuinely running scared of the government? I know they are terrified about the licence fee and the diktat from the broadcasting standards authority over Covid messaging but it makes you wonder what they've been pissing about at. Surely someone dares speak truth to power. Call me a cynic but it's almost as if their lawyers have said if the WHO say something they are on safe ground.
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Post by Paul Spencer on Dec 17, 2020 22:13:31 GMT
I can't find the source for this data but it's pretty damning if it's confirmed ...
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Post by andystokey on Dec 17, 2020 22:23:42 GMT
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Post by spitthedog on Dec 17, 2020 22:23:48 GMT
Lockdowns don't work. Give us back our freedom and invest in protecting the vulnerable. Lockdowns did work for some. They worked as a cover for the Government to be able to transfer £19.3 billion of public money designated to Covid-19, of which a significant proportion was handed to people who had zero previous experience in the field they were meant to be specialists in. Including Matt Hancock's neighbour Alex Bourne for supplying millions of vials for Covid tests, with no previous experience of producing medical kit awarded £30m . A guy who runs the local pub and has a company that produces plastic cups. Well I suppose that made up for him losing a bit of business over the bar Lockdown wasn't for safety it was part of a narrative to legitimise a massive money grab which is still going on. No Conspiracy theories necessary. Its all in black and white.
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Post by numpty40 on Dec 17, 2020 22:35:37 GMT
Almost like the politicians don't believe in all this bollocks.
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Post by yeswilko on Dec 17, 2020 22:48:17 GMT
He understands that most people don't pay a lot of attention to politics. He also quite obviously thinks most folk in this country are thick as mince To be fair the Brexit referendum focused attention for a great many people, sadly people who you don't agree with are branded 'thick as mince' . Maybe they're as thick as mince or maybe they reach out to a politician who doesn't treat them as thick as mince. Who knows? He thinks people are thick because he constantly lies to them. I only think brexiters are thick is if they're still clinging on to the belief that its remotely good for the country. Everyone I know with a business knows its horrific apart from the odd racist
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Post by andystokey on Dec 17, 2020 23:06:54 GMT
I can't find the source for this data but it's pretty damning if it's confirmed ... Here you go Paul Ive done the arithmetic myself for all time since the beginning of the pandemic Attachment Deletedabout 42k admitted with Covid 122k were discharged Covid patients !!! Edit PS I only did England to get 70% the remainder are Wales, Scotland and NI gets you to 74% as per the tweet.
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on Dec 17, 2020 23:09:20 GMT
Almost like the politicians don't believe in all this bollocks. Interesting character and back story has Tobias he’s actually normally a very interesting and balanced bloke he wa for example the man who gave first aid to the fallen police officer at the Houses of Parliament
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Post by Davef on Dec 17, 2020 23:15:41 GMT
I can't find the source for this data but it's pretty damning if it's confirmed ... I posted this earlier Paul, but here's the original Twitter thread for clarity.
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Post by longdistancekiddie on Dec 17, 2020 23:48:40 GMT
Easter will be much as we are now 150k vaccines a week takes 191 weeks to vaccinate the 25m targeted even 1m a week is 6 months Whilst I agree that the number of vaccines administered will need to increase significantly I expect to see this happen in the coming weeks. I think the pace will go up once the Oxford one is signed off and the number of sites administering it increases. Hopefully we get to a point where we have mobile units taking it to care homes and vaccinating residents en masse. Given the profile of deaths I think the first priority is to get the over 70s done. I think that’s around 9m people. Every one done is one less death. It’s like trying to turn around an oil tanker but there will come a tipping point to it. I hope we’re only a couple of months away from that point and then we can put this shitty year behind us. Everyone done, is not one less death
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Post by andystokey on Dec 17, 2020 23:51:07 GMT
I can't find the source for this data but it's pretty damning if it's confirmed ... I posted this earlier Paul, but here's the original Twitter thread for clarity. Of those asymptomatic patients in hospital reported above if any die within 28 days they are registered Covid deaths. I only did England but less than 400 people in the UK were admitted because of (presented with) WITH Covid on 2nd Dec. The Gov/BBC reported charts are showing 1,468 admissions for the same day (diagnosed with in a 24h period), not admitted with as you and I would understand it. So as an example I'm due to have routine appendix surgery I turn up asymptomatic and they test me, if I test positive I will be counted as a Covid admission. If I die on the operating table, I'll be a Covid death. If I survive I will be discharged as a Covid patient, go home and self isolate. Second example I go in for my appendix ok and test negative. While in recovery post op I test positive, I'm now a Covid admission from catching it in hospital.I will be discharged as a Covid patient, go home and self isolate. I also suspect if I turn up for routine surgery asymptomatic and I test positive and they immediately send me home refusing my surgery within 24 hours I will be an admission and a discharge on the same day, go home and self isolate. Hence why the discharges outstrip admissions. Just for grins I checked out the maximum number of people who have ever been admitted WITH Covid (presented) since the start and it's 531 in one day.
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Post by scfcbiancorossi on Dec 17, 2020 23:58:58 GMT
Farage rimmers moaning about economic harm is properly funny. Dude, you keep losing, don't blame Big Nige and Ricky T for your failures 😉
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Post by andystokey on Dec 18, 2020 0:37:53 GMT
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Post by franklin on Dec 18, 2020 0:46:54 GMT
I'd say more likely when the furlough scheme ends and there's mass unemployment and millions of livelihoods shattered due to this absolute fucking lunacy. People with nothing to lose are the most dangerous. I dread to think what the stats are going to look like at the end of March for unemployment. Just an utterly terrifying thought. Already 1million gone. One million families fucked before Christmas never mind wearing a mask they won't have money to buy any.
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Post by scfcbiancorossi on Dec 18, 2020 0:48:55 GMT
Almost like the politicians don't believe in all this bollocks. It's just astonishing. You've got politicians who don't believe in the bullshit rules they're creating, yet you've got members of the public buying into this stuff.
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Post by franklin on Dec 18, 2020 0:51:32 GMT
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Post by scfcbiancorossi on Dec 18, 2020 1:01:06 GMT
I dread to think what the stats are going to look like at the end of March for unemployment. Just an utterly terrifying thought. Already 1million gone. One million families fucked before Christmas never mind wearing a mask they won't have money to buy any. Indeed. Furlough is hoax of the decade. Anyone with half a brain can see that furlough is postponing redundancy, not eradicating it. The government know full well that without furlough we'd easily be into the worst unemployment numbers on record and the anger and hatred of lockdowns would be at breaking point. Give it a few months when the redundancy really kicks in. You can't postpone this chaos forever and it will come to a head. We'll see civil unrest in this country (and other parts of Europe) like we haven't seen in a very long time. On a side note, I found out today (to my horror) a bunch of Spanish friends I have are currently back in Spain but claiming furlough from various British firms they work for in the city. Government handouts are great aren't they. Is that shit legal? Don't blame them for taking advantage of it. Why wouldn't you take advantage of such a painfully dumb scheme?
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Post by starkiller on Dec 18, 2020 2:01:13 GMT
Almost like the politicians don't believe in all this bollocks. Everytime you watch one of these folk it's like you are watching a naughty child spinning a yarn. They know they are lying. He's a deeply sinister propagandist, a 77th brigader, which now targets its own citizens, and is something akin to what is found in CCP China.
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Post by StaffordPotter on Dec 18, 2020 5:13:14 GMT
Almost like the politicians don't believe in all this bollocks. Everytime you watch one of these folk it's like you are watching a naughty child spinning a yarn. They know they are lying. He's a deeply sinister propagandist, a 77th brigader, which now targets its own citizens, and is something akin to what is found in CCP China. Frightening, isn't it.
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Post by hcstokie on Dec 18, 2020 6:41:46 GMT
Whilst I agree that the number of vaccines administered will need to increase significantly I expect to see this happen in the coming weeks. I think the pace will go up once the Oxford one is signed off and the number of sites administering it increases. Hopefully we get to a point where we have mobile units taking it to care homes and vaccinating residents en masse. Given the profile of deaths I think the first priority is to get the over 70s done. I think that’s around 9m people. Every one done is one less death. It’s like trying to turn around an oil tanker but there will come a tipping point to it. I hope we’re only a couple of months away from that point and then we can put this shitty year behind us. Everyone done, is not one less death Bloody hell mate. Alright then, everyone one done will reduce the likelihood of death in the event of the recipient contracting the virus. Everyone done is statistically likely to reduce the severity of symptoms that someone with the virus suffers from. Everyone done will likely reduce future strain on the NHS due to the recipient being statistically less likely to suffer severe symptoms and therefore requiring intensive care. Everyone done is one step closer to people being able to get some sort of normality back in their lives. Is that better?
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Post by wagsastokie on Dec 18, 2020 7:38:40 GMT
To be fair the Brexit referendum focused attention for a great many people, sadly people who you don't agree with are branded 'thick as mince' . Maybe they're as thick as mince or maybe they reach out to a politician who doesn't treat them as thick as mince. Who knows? He thinks people are thick because he constantly lies to them. I only think brexiters are thick is if they're still clinging on to the belief that its remotely good for the country. Everyone I know with a business knows its horrific apart from the odd racist There’s nothing so sad as someone who can’t accept a democratic result Though sad maybe be not the right term pathetic maybe
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