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Post by Seymour Beaver on Dec 17, 2020 18:13:32 GMT
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Post by Davef on Dec 17, 2020 18:16:24 GMT
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Post by Gary Hackett on Dec 17, 2020 18:16:51 GMT
No, it's in your head. Nothing has changed from last week. Talk about being blinded and brainwashed... So most the country hasn't just moved into tier 3? Furlough hasn't just been extended? More horrifying unemployment stats haven't been released? And as I have been saying for months, rolling lockdowns will be here until spring. Nothing has changed. I suggest you set your own expectations accordingly so you won't be disappointed.
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Post by scfcbiancorossi on Dec 17, 2020 18:17:57 GMT
Anyone else feeling like this week we've massively taken a step back after the previous weeks good news re the vaccine? It's like we are back to square one again and this totally crazed, mindless, endless, sick lockdown strategy with absolutely zero end game. It's terrifying that there appears to be absolutely no opposition in parliament. The only party fighting this vile policy is Farage's Reform Party which the government have conveniently blocked. Parliament are on a seriously slippery slope into becoming something very dangerous. Whatever people think of Farage he does somehow seem to have an ability to gauge very early the mood of the country, I'm certainly no fan but you can't dismiss him, The most influential British politician in decades, love him or loathe him. Single handedly producing the biggest democratic vote in the country's history was pretty special. The media are utterly petrified of him. They keep trying to censor him and keep him quiet but they just can't do it. The woke brigade want him dead. The big difference this time around is the number of middle england Tory votes up for grabs. I know countless Conservative for life party members that have vowed to never vote for this mob again after this horrifying year. With Labour somehow making themselves even more unelectable with basically everyone, Big Nige and Ricky T could cause a monumental upset. Starting in May's local elections 😉
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Dec 17, 2020 18:19:09 GMT
Some advice please. My ex Mrs says if I don’t get a COVID test before Christmas I won’t be able to see my daughter. My current Mrs has just finished her isolation after testing positive and I finish mine tomorrow. I’ve had no symptoms so am inclined to not get tested but what would you do? I don’t feel like I need testing but I want to see my daughter on Christmas Day at least. She usually stays over Christmas Eve.
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Post by Gary Hackett on Dec 17, 2020 18:20:39 GMT
Some advice please. My ex Mrs says if I don’t get a COVID test before Christmas I won’t be able to see my daughter. My current Mrs has just finished her isolation after testing positive and I finish mine tomorrow. I’ve had no symptoms so am inclined to not get tested but what would you do? I don’t feel like I need testing but I want to see my daughter on Christmas Day at least. She usually stays over Christmas Eve. I'd do whatever it takes to see my daughter/son, if that helps.
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Post by henry on Dec 17, 2020 18:22:04 GMT
Ridiculous claim. In large, the main places of spread are hospitals, care homes, schools and workplaces - not 'selfish people going to the pub'. To quote you here - 'if people just stop being selfish for a few weeks then we could all get out and get back to normal' - please stop listening to the tow line being fed to you by the media & the government. Correct, our rightful freedom is being dangled in front of us like a carrot on an ever-extending stick. As for a vaccine, masks remain, distancing remains, rules and restrictions remain. It doesn't stop you getting a virus, or spreading it. And even more regulations will be applied. And will be repeated jabs. The penny won't drop for some until they're in a gulag with nothing. Even then, some will be muttering repeatedly, 'if we just obey the rules...' or 'when we get back to normal...' Don't forget that Boris has stated that there will be NO return to the life we knew in 2019. 3 fucking weeks to help the NHS
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Dec 17, 2020 18:29:50 GMT
Some advice please. My ex Mrs says if I don’t get a COVID test before Christmas I won’t be able to see my daughter. My current Mrs has just finished her isolation after testing positive and I finish mine tomorrow. I’ve had no symptoms so am inclined to not get tested but what would you do? I don’t feel like I need testing but I want to see my daughter on Christmas Day at least. She usually stays over Christmas Eve. I'd do whatever it takes to see my daughter/son, if that helps. My point is if I get a test with no symptoms and it’s positive I won’t be able to see her or anyone else for that matter🤷🏻♂️
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Post by medwaypotter on Dec 17, 2020 18:32:57 GMT
Some advice please. My ex Mrs says if I don’t get a COVID test before Christmas I won’t be able to see my daughter. My current Mrs has just finished her isolation after testing positive and I finish mine tomorrow. I’ve had no symptoms so am inclined to not get tested but what would you do? I don’t feel like I need testing but I want to see my daughter on Christmas Day at least. She usually stays over Christmas Eve. I'm in a similar situation, but with no symptoms, I can't get tested.
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Post by chad on Dec 17, 2020 18:33:29 GMT
Some advice please. My ex Mrs says if I don’t get a COVID test before Christmas I won’t be able to see my daughter. My current Mrs has just finished her isolation after testing positive and I finish mine tomorrow. I’ve had no symptoms so am inclined to not get tested but what would you do? I don’t feel like I need testing but I want to see my daughter on Christmas Day at least. She usually stays over Christmas Eve. Split families always a problem at Xmas believe me I know However if your new Mrs as been tested positive I don’t think I’d blame your ex for wanting you to make sure you’re ok. To be honest mate id just get a test
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Post by CBUFAWKIPWH on Dec 17, 2020 18:33:37 GMT
Anyone else feeling like this week we've massively taken a step back after the previous weeks good news re the vaccine? It's like we are back to square one again and this totally crazed, mindless, endless, sick lockdown strategy with absolutely zero end game. It's terrifying that there appears to be absolutely no opposition in parliament. The only party fighting this vile policy is Farage's Reform Party which the government have conveniently blocked. Parliament are on a seriously slippery slope into becoming something very dangerous. Whatever people think of Farage he does somehow seem to have an ability to gauge very early the mood of the country, I'm certainly no fan but you can't dismiss him, He's a chancer - all he does is sniff out the latest bete noire of the permanently dissatisfied and make out he's their champion. The Reform Party is just a front for funding his next greatest hits tour. He's just a low grade warm up act for Donald Trump, not a serious politician. Having said that all he'll ever achieve is a split in the Tory vote so can't help but want him to succeed.
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Post by Gary Hackett on Dec 17, 2020 18:37:28 GMT
I'd do whatever it takes to see my daughter/son, if that helps. My point is if I get a test with no symptoms and it’s positive I won’t be able to see her or anyone else for that matter🤷🏻♂️ Well if it's positive you don't want to be passing it around anyhow so like I said I'd get a test, I'm sure it'll be negative.
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Dec 17, 2020 18:40:45 GMT
Cheers fellas
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Post by CBUFAWKIPWH on Dec 17, 2020 18:42:35 GMT
I'd do whatever it takes to see my daughter/son, if that helps. My point is if I get a test with no symptoms and it’s positive I won’t be able to see her or anyone else for that matter🤷🏻♂️ So if you're covid positive and infect someone it's ok providing you don't know? Get a test mate - it's not about you.
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Post by Paul Spencer on Dec 17, 2020 18:43:57 GMT
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Post by numpty40 on Dec 17, 2020 18:46:28 GMT
Whatever people think of Farage he does somehow seem to have an ability to gauge very early the mood of the country, I'm certainly no fan but you can't dismiss him, Most people in this country want more lockdowns though. I don’t agree with that btw but he’s judged nothing. I really do think that will change going into the new year, I've got absolutely no statistics to endorse that but I sense a noticeable change in attitudes from people I've spoken to.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Dec 17, 2020 18:49:28 GMT
Most people in this country want more lockdowns though. I don’t agree with that btw but he’s judged nothing. I really do think that will change going into the new year, I've got absolutely no statistics to endorse that but I sense a noticeable change in attitudes from people I've spoken to. People have been saying that for 6 months 😂
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Post by Davef on Dec 17, 2020 18:55:30 GMT
I think that the lawyer at the heart of this action against Drosten is the same man who brought the legal proceedings against Volkswagen over the emissions scandal.
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Post by scfcbiancorossi on Dec 17, 2020 18:55:34 GMT
Whatever people think of Farage he does somehow seem to have an ability to gauge very early the mood of the country, I'm certainly no fan but you can't dismiss him, He's a chancer - all he does is sniff out the latest bete noire of the permanently dissatisfied and make out he's their champion. The Reform Party is just a front for funding his next greatest hits tour. He's just a low grade warm up act for Donald Trump, not a serious politician. Having said that all he'll ever achieve is a split in the Tory vote so can't help but want him to succeed. He completely split the Labour Party in two. Or does that not count?
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on Dec 17, 2020 18:59:54 GMT
All this garbage about "being back to normal by Easter" is starting to look more and more like the evil, scandalous lie it really was. Literally what is happening? Easter will be much as we are now 150k vaccines a week takes 191 weeks to vaccinate the 25m targeted even 1m a week is 6 months
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Post by danceswithclams on Dec 17, 2020 19:08:05 GMT
Oh to live in somewhere like China or Russia eh You kind of already do...
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Post by Gary Hackett on Dec 17, 2020 19:20:41 GMT
Wasting their time and money.
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Post by Davef on Dec 17, 2020 19:21:49 GMT
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Post by ravey123 on Dec 17, 2020 19:25:48 GMT
It was mentioned on the news this morning that the WHO are going to go to Wuhan to investigate to see if the virus did indeed start there.
Let me phrase that a different way
“The Chinese sponsored WHO will travel to Wuhan and have a few nice meals and meetings”
You just know the statement after their investigation will be
“The Government allowed us complete access to all areas and after a thorough investigation we cannot find any proof or clue that the virus started in Wuhan” - “now, where did I put that brown envelope”
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Post by yeswilko on Dec 17, 2020 19:32:09 GMT
Anyone else feeling like this week we've massively taken a step back after the previous weeks good news re the vaccine? It's like we are back to square one again and this totally crazed, mindless, endless, sick lockdown strategy with absolutely zero end game. It's terrifying that there appears to be absolutely no opposition in parliament. The only party fighting this vile policy is Farage's Reform Party which the government have conveniently blocked. Parliament are on a seriously slippery slope into becoming something very dangerous. Whatever people think of Farage he does somehow seem to have an ability to gauge very early the mood of the country, I'm certainly no fan but you can't dismiss him, He understands that most people don't pay a lot of attention to politics. He also quite obviously thinks most folk in this country are thick as mince
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Dec 17, 2020 19:39:28 GMT
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Post by hcstokie on Dec 17, 2020 19:45:32 GMT
All this garbage about "being back to normal by Easter" is starting to look more and more like the evil, scandalous lie it really was. Literally what is happening? Easter will be much as we are now 150k vaccines a week takes 191 weeks to vaccinate the 25m targeted even 1m a week is 6 months Whilst I agree that the number of vaccines administered will need to increase significantly I expect to see this happen in the coming weeks. I think the pace will go up once the Oxford one is signed off and the number of sites administering it increases. Hopefully we get to a point where we have mobile units taking it to care homes and vaccinating residents en masse. Given the profile of deaths I think the first priority is to get the over 70s done. I think that’s around 9m people. Every one done is one less death. It’s like trying to turn around an oil tanker but there will come a tipping point to it. I hope we’re only a couple of months away from that point and then we can put this shitty year behind us.
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Post by Northy on Dec 17, 2020 19:45:33 GMT
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Post by bayernoatcake on Dec 17, 2020 19:53:55 GMT
Indeed considering England just came out of one that didn’t really work?
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Post by Davef on Dec 17, 2020 19:56:30 GMT
Easter will be much as we are now 150k vaccines a week takes 191 weeks to vaccinate the 25m targeted even 1m a week is 6 months Whilst I agree that the number of vaccines administered will need to increase significantly I expect to see this happen in the coming weeks. I think the pace will go up once the Oxford one is signed off and the number of sites administering it increases. Hopefully we get to a point where we have mobile units taking it to care homes and vaccinating residents en masse. Given the profile of deaths I think the first priority is to get the over 70s done. I think that’s around 9m people. Every one done is one less death. It’s like trying to turn around an oil tanker but there will come a tipping point to it. I hope we’re only a couple of months away from that point and then we can put this shitty year behind us. The first priority should be the 2m vulnerable people who received a letter back in the spring who had to self isolate for five months, regardless of their age. And of course anybody else's whose circumstances have changed who now find themselves in the vulnerable group. We're averaging around 325,000 PCR tests a day (400,000 were undertaken a few days ago). Ditch that waste of space and put the resources into the vaccination programme.
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