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Post by Gob Bluth on Dec 17, 2020 9:49:04 GMT
Tiers won’t change There is no way they can show the people of London that we are moving you to tier 3 but giving parts of the country tier 2 It would not surprise me to see tier 3 implemented across England til January One option could be to remove or increase the restrictions in the South East over Christmas, it'll never ever happen though.
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Post by EccyStokie on Dec 17, 2020 10:25:48 GMT
Liverpool's rates dropped from over 700 to under 300, unfortunately I don't think Manchester has got that low yet. My sister was telling me that people she knows from Kidsgrove area where rates are higher, are going to Alsager and Sandbach etc. for a meal and to the pub and not getting challenged, it's idiots like this that will keep feeding the powers that be the numbers to keep us restricted I did exactly this the other weekend and it was a joyous return to something semi-normal. People were sat miles apart and were having a laugh with their friends and family, I think I’d prefer that and to keep a pub in business when the industry and the poor sods who are working in it are facing absolute destruction rather than pointing fingers at everyone and everything 10 months into a pandemic that it’s widely known now will barely have an effect on the vast majority of anyone under 65, you know, like literally every other respiratory virus there is knocking about currently. Spot on. It’s sickening what’s been allowed to happen to hospitality.
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Post by henry on Dec 17, 2020 10:29:27 GMT
There will be bugger all changes in the tiers despite many regions now having much lower rates than previously. Liverpool was allowed a drop as it was the 'poster boy' for the magical lateral testing which fixes all ills Liverpool's rates dropped from over 700 to under 300, unfortunately I don't think Manchester has got that low yet. My sister was telling me that people she knows from Kidsgrove area where rates are higher, are going to Alsager and Sandbach etc. for a meal and to the pub and not getting challenged, it's idiots like this that will keep feeding the powers that be the numbers to keep us restricted You sound like piers Morgan.
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Post by Gob Bluth on Dec 17, 2020 10:34:44 GMT
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Post by Gob Bluth on Dec 17, 2020 11:52:50 GMT
Bristol and Herefordshire moved down a tier, the north to remain in their current tiers.
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Dec 17, 2020 11:55:48 GMT
Only changes
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Post by Northy on Dec 17, 2020 12:20:24 GMT
Liverpool's rates dropped from over 700 to under 300, unfortunately I don't think Manchester has got that low yet. My sister was telling me that people she knows from Kidsgrove area where rates are higher, are going to Alsager and Sandbach etc. for a meal and to the pub and not getting challenged, it's idiots like this that will keep feeding the powers that be the numbers to keep us restricted I did exactly this the other weekend and it was a joyous return to something semi-normal. People were sat miles apart and were having a laugh with their friends and family, I think I’d prefer that and to keep a pub in business when the industry and the poor sods who are working in it are facing absolute destruction rather than pointing fingers at everyone and everything 10 months into a pandemic that it’s widely known now will barely have an effect on the vast majority of anyone under 65, you know, like literally every other respiratory virus there is knocking about currently. I went the pub as well last week, but it was in my local area and not crossing from Tier 3, My mum lives in Kidsgrove and I can't see her, yet you think it's OK to go to the pub couldn't you wait a couple of weeks to let the cases go down and reduce the risk of possible asymptomatic spreading ? Yes we know it's mainly killing over 65's, but under that age are getting it as well, surviving it but having a rough time and some still struggling with long covid, clogging up NHS resources which we need for cancer treatments etc.
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Post by Northy on Dec 17, 2020 12:26:15 GMT
Liverpool's rates dropped from over 700 to under 300, unfortunately I don't think Manchester has got that low yet. My sister was telling me that people she knows from Kidsgrove area where rates are higher, are going to Alsager and Sandbach etc. for a meal and to the pub and not getting challenged, it's idiots like this that will keep feeding the powers that be the numbers to keep us restricted You sound like piers Morgan. Seriously, why ? What is your valuable insight to get this thing over with quickly ? Because I'm fed up of being restricted, and if people just stop being selfish for a few weeks then we could all get out and get back to normal, nothing like him demanding lockdowns. I'd like to visit my mum in her 80's living in Kidsgrove sometime soon.
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Post by stokeuk474 on Dec 17, 2020 12:28:07 GMT
I did exactly this the other weekend and it was a joyous return to something semi-normal. People were sat miles apart and were having a laugh with their friends and family, I think I’d prefer that and to keep a pub in business when the industry and the poor sods who are working in it are facing absolute destruction rather than pointing fingers at everyone and everything 10 months into a pandemic that it’s widely known now will barely have an effect on the vast majority of anyone under 65, you know, like literally every other respiratory virus there is knocking about currently. I went the pub as well last week, but it was in my local area and not crossing from Tier 3, My mum lives in Kidsgrove and I can't see her, yet you think it's OK to go to the pub couldn't you wait a couple of weeks to let the cases go down and reduce the risk of possible asymptomatic spreading ? Yes we know it's mainly killing over 65's, but under that age are getting it as well, surviving it but having a rough time and some still struggling with long covid, clogging up NHS resources which we need for cancer treatments etc. 1) It is OK to go to a pub in a different area though. Tier 3 only Advises not to travel in and out of the area as guidance, it's not illegal. 2) Not sure how many times this has been mentioned on this thread, but asymptomatic transmission is not the driver of this virus. Asymptomatic 'cases' only transfer a very small, negligent amount of the virus to other people.
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Post by Northy on Dec 17, 2020 12:31:32 GMT
Liverpool's rates dropped from over 700 to under 300, unfortunately I don't think Manchester has got that low yet. My sister was telling me that people she knows from Kidsgrove area where rates are higher, are going to Alsager and Sandbach etc. for a meal and to the pub and not getting challenged, it's idiots like this that will keep feeding the powers that be the numbers to keep us restricted It's much lower than 300 at 156 with 1 area under 100. Local leaders are asking for some areas to be allowed to move into Tier 2 but not all. This government's tardiness to deliver a decision no mind about the inconsistencies of their decision is a disgrace but now fully expected. We just have to wait for the general election before meaningful feedback can be given. www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/greater-manchester-news/latest-coronavirus-infection-rates-ten-19472238that's excellent then, Boris will deserve everything he gets if those figures are true and he doesn't drop them down a tier
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Post by mutters on Dec 17, 2020 12:32:04 GMT
We're nearly a year in and Peston still thinks a positive test means you're infectious. His idea of journalism is to take a press release and summarise it in his own words. This is what passes as journalism these days. Then for questioning he just focuses on the areas of discussion given to him on said press release. No real questioning, no investigation. This goes for nearly all of them in that field. I guess they're under a gag, but with real journalism this thing would be over. Exactly this A real journalist with some balls, would be raising proper questions about what is being presented as fact, time and time again, without being allowed to challenge in any reasonable format, in order to keep to a message that they want Scandalous how the media is dancing to the tune, without actually questioning what is put in front of them
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Post by Deleted on Dec 17, 2020 12:32:53 GMT
You sound like piers Morgan. Seriously, why ? What is your valuable insight to get this thing over with quickly ? Because I'm fed up of being restricted, and if people just stop being selfish for a few weeks then we could all get out and get back to normal, nothing like him demanding lockdowns. I'd like to visit my mum in her 80's living in Kidsgrove sometime soon. Ridiculous claim. In large, the main places of spread are hospitals, care homes, schools and workplaces - not 'selfish people going to the pub'. To quote you here - 'if people just stop being selfish for a few weeks then we could all get out and get back to normal' - please stop listening to the tow line being fed to you by the media & the government.
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Post by adri2008 on Dec 17, 2020 12:34:41 GMT
Tier 3s for most of us until March basically in a best case scenario. Nothing will change in January/February due to the inevitable post Christmas spike and the fact hospitals are always full at that time of year anyway.
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Post by mutters on Dec 17, 2020 12:38:39 GMT
I went the pub as well last week, but it was in my local area and not crossing from Tier 3, My mum lives in Kidsgrove and I can't see her, yet you think it's OK to go to the pub couldn't you wait a couple of weeks to let the cases go down and reduce the risk of possible asymptomatic spreading ? Yes we know it's mainly killing over 65's, but under that age are getting it as well, surviving it but having a rough time and some still struggling with long covid, clogging up NHS resources which we need for cancer treatments etc. 1) It is OK to go to a pub in a different area though. Tier 3 only Advises not to travel in and out of the area as guidance, it's not illegal. 2) Not sure how many times this has been mentioned on this thread, but asymptomatic transmission is not the driver of this virus. Asymptomatic 'cases' only transfer a very small, negligent amount of the virus to other people. As point 1 - keeps being presented as though you shouldn't go to a different area - deliberate misinformation designed to confuse - so you do what they want even though not illegal
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Post by telfordstokie on Dec 17, 2020 12:39:39 GMT
Corruption on a massive scale in plain sight. Sickening.
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Post by stokeuk474 on Dec 17, 2020 12:40:50 GMT
1) It is OK to go to a pub in a different area though. Tier 3 only Advises not to travel in and out of the area as guidance, it's not illegal. 2) Not sure how many times this has been mentioned on this thread, but asymptomatic transmission is not the driver of this virus. Asymptomatic 'cases' only transfer a very small, negligent amount of the virus to other people. As point 1 - keeps being presented as though you shouldn't go to a different area - deliberate misinformation designed to confuse - so you do what they want even though not illegal Correct. Folk can't seem to read clearly anymore. All the information is there.
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Post by Gary Hackett on Dec 17, 2020 12:41:20 GMT
There'll be a full lockdown from January to March, you're only kidding yourselves if you think otherwise.
Resistance is futile.
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Post by Northy on Dec 17, 2020 12:48:04 GMT
I went the pub as well last week, but it was in my local area and not crossing from Tier 3, My mum lives in Kidsgrove and I can't see her, yet you think it's OK to go to the pub couldn't you wait a couple of weeks to let the cases go down and reduce the risk of possible asymptomatic spreading ? Yes we know it's mainly killing over 65's, but under that age are getting it as well, surviving it but having a rough time and some still struggling with long covid, clogging up NHS resources which we need for cancer treatments etc. 1) It is OK to go to a pub in a different area though. Tier 3 only Advises not to travel in and out of the area as guidance, it's not illegal. 2) Not sure how many times this has been mentioned on this thread, but asymptomatic transmission is not the driver of this virus. Asymptomatic 'cases' only transfer a very small, negligent amount of the virus to other people. No it's not illegal, but advised not to travel apart from work, so it's pretty much saying don't do it, so a bit selfish Asymptomatic, or pre symptoms, still a chance of passing it on isn't there ? or we know some like an SNP MP moving around being positive tested don't care.
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Post by danceswithclams on Dec 17, 2020 12:52:15 GMT
There'll be a full lockdown from January to March, you're only kidding yourselves if you think otherwise. Resistance is futile. Inevitable and you can bet there's great swathes of pious Covid Nazis across this city and beyond who are practically fizzing at the slit over the prospect as it allows them to apportion blame and revel in their own unwavering compliance. The world has lost its fucking mind.
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Post by Northy on Dec 17, 2020 12:52:26 GMT
Seriously, why ? What is your valuable insight to get this thing over with quickly ? Because I'm fed up of being restricted, and if people just stop being selfish for a few weeks then we could all get out and get back to normal, nothing like him demanding lockdowns. I'd like to visit my mum in her 80's living in Kidsgrove sometime soon. Ridiculous claim. In large, the main places of spread are hospitals, care homes, schools and workplaces - not 'selfish people going to the pub'. To quote you here - 'if people just stop being selfish for a few weeks then we could all get out and get back to normal' - please stop listening to the tow line being fed to you by the media & the government. I'm not listening to them, care workers go to a pub, school teachers go to a pub, hospital workers go to a pub, are you saying they shouldn't ? we all saw what happened in pubs like the one in Stone when they opened up fully.
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Post by stokeuk474 on Dec 17, 2020 12:52:38 GMT
1) It is OK to go to a pub in a different area though. Tier 3 only Advises not to travel in and out of the area as guidance, it's not illegal. 2) Not sure how many times this has been mentioned on this thread, but asymptomatic transmission is not the driver of this virus. Asymptomatic 'cases' only transfer a very small, negligent amount of the virus to other people. No it's not illegal, but advised not to travel apart from work, so it's pretty much saying don't do it, so a bit selfish Asymptomatic, or pre symptoms, still a chance of passing it on isn't there ? or we know some like an SNP MP moving around being positive tested don't care. It's pretty much saying 'don't do it' but it falls short of 'Do not do it'. If they want to stop it, make it illegal. Until then, people will continue to travel around freely as they bloody well should be able to.
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Post by The Drunken Communist on Dec 17, 2020 12:52:57 GMT
We'll deffo have another lockdown in the new year, and it'll be blamed on allowing us some 'freedom' for Christmas. The lockdowns will stay in place untill the summer when 'cases' start to drop off. This, of course, will be spun as a sure sign that lockdowns/masks/vaccines work. As we get passed half-way of summer we'll get the most 'freedom' we've seen since 2019. "Look at us giving you your freedom back, we're such good guys" the government will say. Then as summer gives way to winter 'cases' will start to rise again, this will be proof that 'freedom' is a danger, we're all killing granny again, back into lockdown, get your mask on, have another vaccine.
People on here will still be saying "It's alright guys, if we all do as the government tell us we'll have our freedom back by spring 2022"...
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Post by salopstick on Dec 17, 2020 12:59:22 GMT
We'll deffo have another lockdown in the new year, and it'll be blamed on allowing us some 'freedom' for Christmas. The lockdowns will stay in place untill the summer when 'cases' start to drop off. This, of course, will be spun as a sure sign that lockdowns/masks/vaccines work. As we get passed half-way of summer we'll get the most 'freedom' we've seen since 2019. "Look at us giving you your freedom back, we're such good guys" the government will say. Then as summer gives way to winter 'cases' will start to rise again, this will be proof that 'freedom' is a danger, we're all killing granny again, back into lockdown, get your mask on, have another vaccine. People on here will still be saying "It's alright guys, if we all do as the government tell us we'll have our freedom back by spring 2022"... Repeat to fade Cunts
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Post by danceswithclams on Dec 17, 2020 12:59:57 GMT
We'll deffo have another lockdown in the new year, and it'll be blamed on allowing us some 'freedom' for Christmas. The lockdowns will stay in place untill the summer when 'cases' start to drop off. This, of course, will be spun as a sure sign that lockdowns/masks/vaccines work. As we get passed half-way of summer we'll get the most 'freedom' we've seen since 2019. "Look at us giving you your freedom back, we're such good guys" the government will say. Then as summer gives way to winter 'cases' will start to rise again, this will be proof that 'freedom' is a danger, we're all killing granny again, back into lockdown, get your mask on, have another vaccine. People on here will still be saying "It's alright guys, if we all do as the government tell us we'll have our freedom back by spring 2022"... It's never going to end is it?
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Post by Northy on Dec 17, 2020 13:05:56 GMT
No it's not illegal, but advised not to travel apart from work, so it's pretty much saying don't do it, so a bit selfish Asymptomatic, or pre symptoms, still a chance of passing it on isn't there ? or we know some like an SNP MP moving around being positive tested don't care. It's pretty much saying 'don't do it' but it falls short of 'Do not do it'. If they want to stop it, make it illegal. Until then, people will continue to travel around freely as they bloody well should be able to. yes, we all should be able to move around freely, some people I know on here will tell you I'm always travelling, but to me going from an area which has seen recent lots of cases and deaths like S-o-T to an area which hasn't just for a meal in a pub, which can be avoided for a couple of weeks or so should be, just to reduce the risk, is that too much of an ask ?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 17, 2020 13:16:32 GMT
Yet we still test without symptoms. If you’re someone who goes for a test without a symptom, you’re part of the problem.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 17, 2020 13:16:34 GMT
There'll be a full lockdown from January to March, you're only kidding yourselves if you think otherwise. Resistance is futile. It'll do way more damage than good, if that's the case. Hopefully common sense prevails.
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Post by starkiller on Dec 17, 2020 13:18:01 GMT
Seriously, why ? What is your valuable insight to get this thing over with quickly ? Because I'm fed up of being restricted, and if people just stop being selfish for a few weeks then we could all get out and get back to normal, nothing like him demanding lockdowns. I'd like to visit my mum in her 80's living in Kidsgrove sometime soon. Ridiculous claim. In large, the main places of spread are hospitals, care homes, schools and workplaces - not 'selfish people going to the pub'. To quote you here - 'if people just stop being selfish for a few weeks then we could all get out and get back to normal' - please stop listening to the tow line being fed to you by the media & the government. Correct, our rightful freedom is being dangled in front of us like a carrot on an ever-extending stick. As for a vaccine, masks remain, distancing remains, rules and restrictions remain. It doesn't stop you getting a virus, or spreading it. And even more regulations will be applied. And will be repeated jabs. The penny won't drop for some until they're in a gulag with nothing. Even then, some will be muttering repeatedly, 'if we just obey the rules...' or 'when we get back to normal...'
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Post by chad on Dec 17, 2020 13:26:05 GMT
Ridiculous claim. In large, the main places of spread are hospitals, care homes, schools and workplaces - not 'selfish people going to the pub'. To quote you here - 'if people just stop being selfish for a few weeks then we could all get out and get back to normal' - please stop listening to the tow line being fed to you by the media & the government. Correct, our rightful freedom is being dangled in front of us like a carrot on an ever-extending stick. As for a vaccine, masks remain, distancing remains, rules and restrictions remain. It doesn't stop you getting a virus, or spreading it. And even more regulations will be applied. And will be repeated jabs. The penny won't drop for some until they're in a gulag with nothing. Even then, some will be muttering repeatedly, 'if we just obey the rules...' or 'when we get back to normal...' You need to lay off the sauce mate 😊
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Post by wagsastokie on Dec 17, 2020 15:06:02 GMT
We'll deffo have another lockdown in the new year, and it'll be blamed on allowing us some 'freedom' for Christmas. The lockdowns will stay in place untill the summer when 'cases' start to drop off. This, of course, will be spun as a sure sign that lockdowns/masks/vaccines work. As we get passed half-way of summer we'll get the most 'freedom' we've seen since 2019. "Look at us giving you your freedom back, we're such good guys" the government will say. Then as summer gives way to winter 'cases' will start to rise again, this will be proof that 'freedom' is a danger, we're all killing granny again, back into lockdown, get your mask on, have another vaccine. People on here will still be saying "It's alright guys, if we all do as the government tell us we'll have our freedom back by spring 2022"... What fucking freedom First time in forty two years I won’t be in a pub Christmas Day with a pint That’s freedom
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