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Post by bathstoke on Mar 19, 2020 16:12:00 GMT
I’ve just seen a Chinese person outside a school, spitting in little children’s faces & when one of the mums shouted at him, he stabbed her. As true as the day I was born. Print that Daily Mail😷
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Post by elystokie on Mar 19, 2020 16:15:12 GMT
I’ve just seen a Chinese person outside a school, spitting in little children’s faces & when one of the mums shouted at him, he stabbed her. As true as the day I was born. Print that Daily Mail😷 Maybe have him eating a live bat at the same time? You can never be too far fetched for the Daily Heil.
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Post by RipRoaringPotter on Mar 19, 2020 16:17:51 GMT
I’ve just seen a Chinese person outside a school, spitting in little children’s faces & when one of the mums shouted at him, he stabbed her. As true as the day I was born. Print that Daily Mail😷 Just got a call from the editor of the Mail - if you can make him gay, Muslim and a Labour voter then he's ready to publish.
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Post by Seymour Beaver on Mar 19, 2020 16:21:12 GMT
Prince Albert of Monaco has gone down with a splash of the virus too. Where did we get to with herd immunity? Do 80% of us still need to catch it in the end? In a managed kind of a way of course. Depend which herd you're in. Younger herd yes - but not all at the same time please. Older herd please stay indoors whilst the youngsters crack on with infecting each other. Once they've gotten over it and can no longer infect you then it's ok to hug your grandkids again. That's my take anyway.
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Post by Seymour Beaver on Mar 19, 2020 16:24:53 GMT
I’ve just seen a Chinese person outside a school, spitting in little children’s faces & when one of the mums shouted at him, he stabbed her. As true as the day I was born. Print that Daily Mail😷 Just got a call from the editor of the Mail - if you can make him gay, Muslim and a Labour voter then he's ready to publish. Todays's banner headline was a cracker. "SCHOOLS CLOSE, DEATHS UP, ARMY ON ALERT, SHOPS TO START RATIONING". Who needs an hour of meditation when you've got the equivalent of mindfulness in a chip paper in the form of the good old Daily Mail.
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Post by 1948fitch on Mar 19, 2020 16:25:32 GMT
Interest rates reduced to 0.1% 0, the lowest it can go. Is it? Thought they could go negative as in other countries from time to time. Though happy to be corrected if there is some rule that can't happen in the UK. might cause a problem in the computer system if it wasn't designed properly
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Post by mtrstudent on Mar 19, 2020 16:28:05 GMT
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Post by raythesailor on Mar 19, 2020 16:29:44 GMT
If it were to go negative there would be a massive run on Banks and Build Soc’s. You may as well draw your money out and keep in a biscuit tin under the bed, than pay them to electronically look after it. The repercussions would be unimaginable. Its bound to be negative in a "biscuit tin" also is it not ? Well I maybe being a little simplistic but; If you have £1000.0 in a build soc and they charge you £1.00 for having there you have £999.00. In a buiscuit tin you will still have £1000.00. In reality it is not as simple as that. The rate is actually the Base Rate, on which they decide what rate of interest they will charge for loans, mortgages and pay to savings investors. Therefore the base rate would need to be substantially negative before savings were being paid sub zero. These low rates are designed to encourage us and commerce to go out and spend, but give the banks very fine margins to operate in and maintain liquidity and comply to the very strenuous compliance regulations. Thin Ice if people get jittery. Remember N Rock and how that ended up.
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Post by AlliG on Mar 19, 2020 16:31:05 GMT
Mate of mine has just seen a fully grown man batter a teenager in Tesco's in Baguley, South Manchester. Also fiesty people. It's where some bloke punched a 5 day old baby in the head a couple of years back Only been to one major supermarket in the last couple of weeks and were the usual folk queueing up with toilet rolls, pasta etc despite notices saying to think of others. To be fair was only a dozen or so people My nearest is a Spar and not far away a Tesco Express, simply hasn't been any shortages of anything in any of them or any panic buying. We are a bit more rural here I guess but people do react to what they read, plenty on here with a the answers of course and what horrors to expect which all adds to this panic buying and kind of behaviour we're seeing and calling for sanctions which they have no knowledge of or thoughts for the consequences. One of the perks at the moment of the smaller stores (especially if they have no or very small carparks and don't use trolleys) is that they are automatically limited to what you can carry.
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Post by Gods on Mar 19, 2020 16:32:36 GMT
Prince Albert of Monaco has gone down with a splash of the virus too. Where did we get to with herd immunity? Do 80% of us still need to catch it in the end? In a managed kind of a way of course. Depend which herd you're in. Younger herd yes - but not all at the same time please. Older herd please stay indoors whilst the youngsters crack on with infecting each other. Once they've gotten over it and can no longer infect you then it's ok to hug your grandkids again. That's my take anyway. Yes, I think that's the plan in a nutshell. Cocoon the vulnerable while the rest of us catch it to build up immunity but not so fast it sinks the NHS. Then one happy day in 2022 a vaccine comes along which is given to the vulnerable since it never quite goes away altogether.
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Post by mtrstudent on Mar 19, 2020 16:33:01 GMT
Do 80% of us still need to catch it in the end? In a managed kind of a way of course. Depends on how infectious it really is. There's an equation: Percent needed for herd immunity = 100 x (1 - 1/number of people each infected person will infect). If you see news stories talking about "R0" or "R naught" then that's the number infected by each. This one says it's between 2 and 2.5. If it's 2.5 then you need 60 % of people infected, there'll probably be more news stories updating the R0 number as we get extra info.
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Post by Laughing Gravy on Mar 19, 2020 16:34:05 GMT
Prince Albert of Monaco has gone down with a splash of the virus too. Where did we get to with herd immunity? Do 80% of us still need to catch it in the end? In a managed kind of a way of course. Depend which herd you're in. Younger herd yes - but not all at the same time please. Older herd please stay indoors whilst the youngsters crack on with infecting each other. Once they've gotten over it and can no longer infect you then it's ok to hug your grandkids again. That's my take anyway. Mate early doors I heard an 'expert' on the telly say ideally he would quarantine all the elderly and vulnerable in the north of Scotland and then let all the under 60's run wild in the south of England infecting one another at will. Then after about 2 months when it had run it's course the two groups could be re integrated safely. Simple. If you're China or Russia.
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Post by ColonelMustard on Mar 19, 2020 16:39:31 GMT
Do 80% of us still need to catch it in the end? In a managed kind of a way of course. Depends on how infectious it really is. There's an equation: Percent needed for herd immunity = 100 x (1 - 1/number of people each infected person will infect). If you see news stories talking about "R0" or "R naught" then that's the number infected by each. This one says it's between 2 and 2.5. If it's 2.5 then you need 60 % of people infected, there'll probably be more news stories updating the R0 number as we get extra info. From what I see around me zi cant help thinking this R0 will be higher than this. Figures from far east must have been fairly accurate though so it's just layman nonsense. It just feels like it's very contagious and actually statistically not that dangerous. We'll see when theres an anti body test.
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Post by Seymour Beaver on Mar 19, 2020 16:42:41 GMT
Depend which herd you're in. Younger herd yes - but not all at the same time please. Older herd please stay indoors whilst the youngsters crack on with infecting each other. Once they've gotten over it and can no longer infect you then it's ok to hug your grandkids again. That's my take anyway. Mate early doors I heard an 'expert' on the telly say ideally he would quarantine all the elderly and vulnerable in the north of Scotland and then let all the under 60's run wild in the south of England infecting one another at will. Then after about 2 months when it had run it's course the two groups could be re integrated safely. Simple. If you're China or Russia. And what did Nicola Sturgeon have to say about that? Personally I'd go for Northern Ireland - Arlene's shown she's more easily "bought". Safe territory as well - no unwanted pregnancies amongst the over 70's.
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Post by mtrstudent on Mar 19, 2020 16:50:23 GMT
Depends on how infectious it really is. There's an equation: Percent needed for herd immunity = 100 x (1 - 1/number of people each infected person will infect). If you see news stories talking about "R0" or "R naught" then that's the number infected by each. This one says it's between 2 and 2.5. If it's 2.5 then you need 60 % of people infected, there'll probably be more news stories updating the R0 number as we get extra info. From what I see around me zi cant help thinking this R0 will be higher than this. Figures from far east must have been fairly accurate though so it's just layman nonsense. It just feels like it's very contagious and actually statistically not that dangerous. We'll see when theres an anti body test. If it's around 2 then it's about the same as the Spanish flu that ripped through whole countries even before normal plane travel... it sounds small but it's enough to get round really fucking quickly. Antibody test would be absolutely cracking, would get some things back to normal far faster and could start saving people's jobs without risking lives.
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Post by Seymour Beaver on Mar 19, 2020 16:50:45 GMT
Depends on how infectious it really is. There's an equation: Percent needed for herd immunity = 100 x (1 - 1/number of people each infected person will infect). If you see news stories talking about "R0" or "R naught" then that's the number infected by each. This one says it's between 2 and 2.5. If it's 2.5 then you need 60 % of people infected, there'll probably be more news stories updating the R0 number as we get extra info. From what I see around me zi cant help thinking this R0 will be higher than this. Figures from far east must have been fairly accurate though so it's just layman nonsense. It just feels like it's very contagious and actually statistically not that dangerous. We'll see when theres an anti body test. That stuff coming out of Italy is also fascinating. Asymptomatic to symptomatic at a ratio of 10:1. In my (admittedly thick) head that says if everyone were to contract it in the UK only around 7m would actually show symptoms - of which (using worldometer data of serious v mild amongst symptomatic patients) only around 400,000 would be serious. And that's if you do nothing to mitigate If 90% are indeed asymptomatic then it does give authority to the herd + lock up your grannies approach providing you can manage the 400k if it is that or reduce it substantially by the granny lock down. It also doubly underlines the need for widespread testing.
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Post by march4 on Mar 19, 2020 16:52:18 GMT
Prince Albert of Monaco has gone down with a splash of the virus too. Where did we get to with herd immunity? Do 80% of us still need to catch it in the end? In a managed kind of a way of course. Depend which herd you're in. Younger herd yes - but not all at the same time please. Older herd please stay indoors whilst the youngsters crack on with infecting each other. Once they've gotten over it and can no longer infect you then it's ok to hug your grandkids again. That's my take anyway. That’s about it. Just heard BBC News speculating it could take two years to achieve.
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Post by werrington on Mar 19, 2020 16:55:52 GMT
I’d love to work from home
As it happens I work on the front line of the nhs and they’ve asked if we can do some more hours to help cope with what’s about to envelop re staffing and patients etc etc
Got fuck all else do so I’m in and at least the roads will be quiet
Always a positive 😊
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Post by estrangedsonoffaye on Mar 19, 2020 17:01:35 GMT
My work had confirmation today that Downing Street want all of our PCR (machines that amplify genetic material to quantifiable levels) machines as part of an effort to get testing from 5,000 to 300,000 screens a day. Army will collect them tomorrow.
Truly a crazy time and confirmation that our testing capacity has been awful up until this point.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 19, 2020 17:02:45 GMT
I’ve just seen a Chinese person outside a school, spitting in little children’s faces & when one of the mums shouted at him, he stabbed her. As true as the day I was born. Print that Daily Mail😷 Just got a call from the editor of the Mail - if you can make him gay, Muslim and a Labour voter then he's ready to publish. crapslinger likes this......
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Post by kidcrewbob on Mar 19, 2020 17:03:15 GMT
There'll be a vaccine for this before next winter IMHO, or at least a solid, effective treatment - the financial incentive alone will drive this as will the "kudos" for any establishment to get to it first........
That said, the Chinese should be held accountable for their medieval wet markets that they were supposed to clean up after the SARS near miss......the fuckers....
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Post by Laughing Gravy on Mar 19, 2020 17:03:18 GMT
Mate early doors I heard an 'expert' on the telly say ideally he would quarantine all the elderly and vulnerable in the north of Scotland and then let all the under 60's run wild in the south of England infecting one another at will. Then after about 2 months when it had run it's course the two groups could be re integrated safely. Simple. If you're China or Russia. And what did Nicola Sturgeon have to say about that? Personally I'd go for Northern Ireland - Arlene's shown she's more easily "bought". Safe territory as well - no unwanted pregnancies amongst the over 70's. She'd already announced it 2 hours earlier.
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Post by noustie on Mar 19, 2020 17:03:53 GMT
I’d love to work from home As it happens I work on the front line of the nhs and they’ve asked if we can do some more hours to help cope with what’s about to envelop re staffing and patients etc etc Got fuck all else do so I’m in and at least the roads will be quiet Always a positive 😊 Thank you fella.
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Post by Laughing Gravy on Mar 19, 2020 17:04:54 GMT
I’d love to work from home As it happens I work on the front line of the nhs and they’ve asked if we can do some more hours to help cope with what’s about to envelop re staffing and patients etc etc Got fuck all else do so I’m in and at least the roads will be quiet Always a positive 😊 Take care mate.
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Post by mattador78 on Mar 19, 2020 17:05:00 GMT
My work had confirmation today that Downing Street want all of our PCR (machines that amplify genetic material to quantifiable levels) machines as part of an effort to get testing from 5,000 to 300,000 screens a day. Army will collect them tomorrow. Truly a crazy time and confirmation that our testing capacity has been awful up until this point. My mrs works for Cole Parker says all there stuff flying out everywhere
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Post by Deleted on Mar 19, 2020 17:05:06 GMT
I’d love to work from home As it happens I work on the front line of the nhs and they’ve asked if we can do some more hours to help cope with what’s about to envelop re staffing and patients etc etc Got fuck all else do so I’m in and at least the roads will be quiet Always a positive 😊 I work in logistics and I'm exactly the same (apart from the NHS bit obviously), works crazy trying to get stock onto supermarket shelves, medicine to pharmacists etc. so I'll keep working through until we see light at the end of the tunnel.....
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Post by kidcrewbob on Mar 19, 2020 17:07:44 GMT
I’d love to work from home As it happens I work on the front line of the nhs and they’ve asked if we can do some more hours to help cope with what’s about to envelop re staffing and patients etc etc Got fuck all else do so I’m in and at least the roads will be quiet Always a positive 😊 I work in logistics and I'm exactly the same (apart from the NHS bit obviously), works crazy trying to get stock onto supermarket shelves, medicine to pharmacists etc. so I'll keep working through until we see light at the end of the tunnel..... You and your colleagues across the sector are unsung heroes in all this shit show - well done fellah.....
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Post by werrington on Mar 19, 2020 17:08:04 GMT
I’d love to work from home As it happens I work on the front line of the nhs and they’ve asked if we can do some more hours to help cope with what’s about to envelop re staffing and patients etc etc Got fuck all else do so I’m in and at least the roads will be quiet Always a positive 😊 Thank you fella. Dunna be daft mate I don’t want thanks Just explaining what it’s like for those who can’t work from home, there’s probably loads on here in different jobs in same boat
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Post by MilanStokie on Mar 19, 2020 17:14:15 GMT
427 dead in Italy today.
More in Italy than China now.
5322 new cases as well by far highest increase in a 24 hour period.
It's gathering even more pace than before...
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Post by Deleted on Mar 19, 2020 17:17:31 GMT
I work in logistics and I'm exactly the same (apart from the NHS bit obviously), works crazy trying to get stock onto supermarket shelves, medicine to pharmacists etc. so I'll keep working through until we see light at the end of the tunnel..... You and your colleagues across the sector are unsung heroes in all this shit show - well done fellah..... It's the drivers on the coal face in fairness mate, I'm an office monkey as they never tire of telling me
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