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Post by crouchpotato1 on Oct 28, 2020 21:25:37 GMT
Taxi’s round these parts are 3 max and no one in the front all wearing masks obviously
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Post by PotterLog on Oct 28, 2020 21:27:54 GMT
If sitting in the front of a car is such a problem, why are there so many driving instructors still going about their business? Do masks work or don't they? Where I live they all have transparent plastic sheets hanging between the rear view mirror and the middle of the roof
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Oct 28, 2020 21:35:49 GMT
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Post by smallthorner on Oct 28, 2020 21:54:15 GMT
If sitting in the front of a car is such a problem, why are there so many driving instructors still going about their business? Do masks work or don't they? Maybe because the driving instructor will have full details of his/her client. They will also have completed a disclosure form.
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Post by terryconroysmagic on Oct 28, 2020 22:02:00 GMT
If sitting in the front of a car is such a problem, why are there so many driving instructors still going about their business? Do masks work or don't they? Maybe because the driving instructor will have full details of his/her client. They will also have completed a disclosure form. Is one of the questions “are you experiencing any asymptomatic symptoms?”...
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Post by Gary Hackett on Oct 28, 2020 22:08:17 GMT
If sitting in the front of a car is such a problem, why are there so many driving instructors still going about their business? Do masks work or don't they? Maybe because the driving instructor will have full details of his/her client. They will also have completed a disclosure form. Precisely. There's a massive difference in having 5 or 6 pre booked clients through your door each day where you can operate safe track and tracing if required than having a hundred people a day through your doors who you have no way of tracing.
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Post by Gods on Oct 28, 2020 22:15:13 GMT
New national lockdown in France, deaths there at their highest level since April and local lock downs have failed.
Germany also shutting bars, restaurants, gyms for a month with far fewer cases than us. 2 things spooking them, the devastating speed of the outbreak and track and trace has got away from them
Everyone is going for a month to begin with, it's coming here isn't it, why wouldn't it, we stood on ceremony last time and copped the highest death rate in Europe, I hate it more than anyone but we're putting off the inevitable :-(
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Oct 28, 2020 22:21:36 GMT
Watching the 10 o’clock news on ITV tonight with the predictions from Sage that a further 85,000 deaths are possible until next Spring😮🤔 Robert Buckland on Peston at 10-45 saying Christmas will not be as we know it🤔I just don’t know how they can possibly enforce what goes on in houses at Christmas
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Post by smallthorner on Oct 28, 2020 22:25:12 GMT
Maybe because the driving instructor will have full details of his/her client. They will also have completed a disclosure form. Is one of the questions “are you experiencing any asymptomatic symptoms?”... I was giving a possible answer to the first question. You could tear apart any rule or regulation regarding Covid at the moment. You could argue and try to analysis every graph and Excell spreadsheet.. But none on this message board can give any answers. Just try to follow the guidelines and keep safe. We are all anxious, frustrated and stressed out. But let's not pour oil on the fire by protests and anarchy.
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Post by chad on Oct 28, 2020 22:26:33 GMT
Watching the 10 o’clock news on ITV tonight with the predictions from Sage that a further 85,000 deaths are possible until next Spring😮🤔 Robert Buckland on Peston at 10-45 saying Christmas will not be as we know it🤔I just don’t know how they can possibly enforce what goes on in houses at Christmas They can’t. Like most of the rules and restrictions it will rely on people being sensible Unfortunately a lot won’t be It’s becoming increasingly likely that there is no answer to this thing and we are just going to have to see if it blows itself out God knows what happens if it doesn’t
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Oct 28, 2020 22:37:59 GMT
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Post by smallthorner on Oct 28, 2020 22:48:22 GMT
My Dad emigrated to New Zealand some years back. Best move he ever made! Lovely place. Been three times. Work and family. Where's your dad? North or South?
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on Oct 28, 2020 22:55:58 GMT
Watching the 10 o’clock news on ITV tonight with the predictions from Sage that a further 85,000 deaths are possible until next Spring😮🤔 Robert Buckland on Peston at 10-45 saying Christmas will not be as we know it🤔I just don’t know how they can possibly enforce what goes on in houses at Christmas It’s been pretty obvious since April we were on for 100,000 deaths this year if the government didn’t take strong and meaningful action it’s just another and the most tragic validation of their utter incompemtnr and lack of backbone
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Post by Davef on Oct 28, 2020 23:08:17 GMT
What do we put this increase down to then?
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Post by Gary Hackett on Oct 28, 2020 23:29:54 GMT
What do we put this increase down to then? A global pandemic not seen for over 100 years ?
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Post by Bojan Mackey on Oct 28, 2020 23:43:02 GMT
What do we put this increase down to then? A global pandemic not seen for over 100 years ? I’d say not being able to see friends, family, keep a normal routine for 8 months now and being made jobless and facing complete ruin are a lot more to blame than a pandemic that 99% of people who come into contact with survive. But still, let’s get those masks that clearly don’t do fuck all on.
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Post by Gods on Oct 28, 2020 23:48:55 GMT
What do we put this increase down to then? I very much doubt having the virus left unattended running amok and cutting a swathe through our communities will do much to improve the attempted suicide rate either.
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Post by Gary Hackett on Oct 29, 2020 0:10:43 GMT
BBC News - Covid-19: Nearly 100,000 catching virus every day www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-54723962While cases are currently highest in the North, infections are surging more rapidly in the South. The South East, South West, east of England and London all have an R above 2.0. London has an estimated R of 2.86.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 29, 2020 1:25:58 GMT
I don't see any other outcome apart from another full lockdown very soon.
If anybody thinks the last one was depressing, wait until we spend the next 10 weeks or so through the dark nights and Christmas period in Lockdown.
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Post by Dr Hesham on Oct 29, 2020 2:18:15 GMT
What do we put this increase down to then? There is another pandemic of depression everywhere, even people who are not directly or indirectly affected by the virus, restrictions, lock-down ...etc. have also lower mood than their normal.
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Post by Gods on Oct 29, 2020 7:16:51 GMT
BBC News - Covid-19: Nearly 100,000 catching virus every day www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-54723962While cases are currently highest in the North, infections are surging more rapidly in the South. The South East, South West, east of England and London all have an R above 2.0. London has an estimated R of 2.86. That 'R' rate of 3 in London is something else! Certainly one to ponder for those of us down South who have been rather glibly getting on with things.
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Post by starkiller on Oct 29, 2020 8:45:53 GMT
What do we put this increase down to then? A global pandemic not seen for over 100 years ? It isn't though. The media has done it's job on you. All part of the hyperbole.
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on Oct 29, 2020 9:08:09 GMT
A global pandemic not seen for over 100 years ? It isn't though. The media has done it's job on you. All part of the hyperbole. When the U.K. passes 100,000 deaths , how will you describe it ?
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Post by Davef on Oct 29, 2020 9:11:47 GMT
BBC News - Covid-19: Nearly 100,000 catching virus every day www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-54723962While cases are currently highest in the North, infections are surging more rapidly in the South. The South East, South West, east of England and London all have an R above 2.0. London has an estimated R of 2.86. That 'R' rate of 3 in London is something else! Certainly one to ponder for those of us down South who have been rather glibly getting on with things. With those numbers, you'd think the drive in testing centres would be bringing cities and towns to a standstill instead of being empty every day wouldn't you? And you'd think there'd be more than an average of 6 deaths per day in London if the 'R' rate was so high.
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Post by butlerstbob on Oct 29, 2020 9:18:40 GMT
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Post by The Drunken Communist on Oct 29, 2020 9:21:45 GMT
Data from researchers and official bodies showed that Covid-19 death rates among the young were low when the pandemic first hit in the spring, and that they are lower still despite concern over pub-goers, holidaymakers and protesters spreading infection over the summer.
The latest daily NHS figures show that of the 2,677 patients who have died with the virus in English hospitals between September 1 and this Tuesday, only 14 – half of 1 per cent – were aged under 40.
By contrast, 52 per cent were over 80. More detailed ONS figures tell the same story.
Including deaths in private homes as well as hospitals, only 17 people under 40 died with Covid between the weeks ending August 28 and October 16, just 0.8 per cent of the 2,061 total across England and Wales. The over-70s accounted for 1,701 deaths – 82 per cent of the total.
Statistician Professor David Spiegelhalter, of Cambridge University, said: 'Age is the overwhelmingly most important factor when it comes to the risk of dying from Covid.
'Young people have always got the virus more than older people, but that hasn't translated into hospitalisations and death.'
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Post by Northy on Oct 29, 2020 9:30:01 GMT
That 'R' rate of 3 in London is something else! Certainly one to ponder for those of us down South who have been rather glibly getting on with things. With those numbers, you'd think the drive in testing centres would be bringing cities and towns to a standstill instead of being empty every day wouldn't you? And you'd think there'd be more than an average of 6 deaths per day in London if the 'R' rate was so high. There are plenty of test centres around, people are spread about and there are pop up ones that aren't listed, I know we get a pop up one at Northwich, people also have kits sent to their homes and work places (care workers and NHS staff?). I think there are 93 test centres, say 100,000 tests a day, between 93 stations that's just over 1000 a day, then take off the kits sent to homes, and the numbers done in care homes and hospitals etc. and the pop up centres, they are open 8 hours a day, at max that's 125 a day without the ones being done elsewhere, so it's not that busy
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Oct 29, 2020 9:31:14 GMT
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Post by shakermaker on Oct 29, 2020 9:34:01 GMT
I don't see any other outcome apart from another full lockdown very soon. If anybody thinks the last one was depressing, wait until we spend the next 10 weeks or so through the dark nights and Christmas period in Lockdown. All that work on the three tier system too. The Government has to be seen to react in some way of course but it makes it very difficult to tell what works and what doesn't. It's looking more and more like a national lockdown by stealth. Perhaps the Government is conscious of the general mood of the public and thus swayed from an all-out lockdown, and then with Starmer's call for a national lockdown they don't want to look as if they were influenced by the Opposition.
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Post by Gods on Oct 29, 2020 9:34:58 GMT
That 'R' rate of 3 in London is something else! Certainly one to ponder for those of us down South who have been rather glibly getting on with things. With those numbers, you'd think the drive in testing centres would be bringing cities and towns to a standstill instead of being empty every day wouldn't you? And you'd think there'd be more than an average of 6 deaths per day in London if the 'R' rate was so high. You have to show a little more patience with this virus Dave. There are a sequence of events which must happen first before it obliges with the dead bodies
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