|
Post by smallthorner on Sept 29, 2020 21:54:35 GMT
No longer works in the UK, because you have to ask 'what year is your appointment?' Is that some tumbleweed I see drifting down the high street.?
|
|
|
Post by starkiller on Sept 29, 2020 22:16:53 GMT
No longer works in the UK, because you have to ask 'what year is your appointment?' Is that some tumbleweed I see drifting down the high street.? And you've just added some more.
|
|
|
Post by smallthorner on Sept 29, 2020 22:27:54 GMT
Is that some tumbleweed I see drifting down the high street.? And you've just added some more. Yes. I've just seen it.
|
|
|
Post by smallthorner on Sept 29, 2020 22:31:29 GMT
Is that some tumbleweed I see drifting down the high street.? And you've just added some more. Mine was blowing the other way though.
|
|
|
Post by scfcbiancorossi on Sept 29, 2020 22:32:44 GMT
|
|
|
Post by werrington on Sept 30, 2020 5:52:40 GMT
On the day he didn’t know his own rules Boris Johnson turns up at a woodwork class indoors with no mask and no social distancing whilst the rest of the country is under draconian laws and students just out of childhood under house arrest.....seriously this country needs to wake up and smell the fucking coffee
No matter your politics they are taking the piss out of the British nation
|
|
|
Post by henry on Sept 30, 2020 6:48:25 GMT
On the day he didn’t know his own rules Boris Johnson turns up at a woodwork class indoors with no mask and no social distancing whilst the rest of the country is under draconian laws and students just out of childhood under house arrest.....seriously this country needs to wake up and smell the fucking coffee No matter your politics they are taking the piss out of the British nation Was he on a private plane?
|
|
|
Post by henry on Sept 30, 2020 6:51:42 GMT
Good find. I see the Belgians used the term “flatten the curve” aswell. All singing from the same hymn sheet.
|
|
|
Post by werrington on Sept 30, 2020 6:51:48 GMT
On the day he didn’t know his own rules Boris Johnson turns up at a woodwork class indoors with no mask and no social distancing whilst the rest of the country is under draconian laws and students just out of childhood under house arrest.....seriously this country needs to wake up and smell the fucking coffee No matter your politics they are taking the piss out of the British nation Was he on a private plane? Students threatened that they can’t go home to see their families at Christmas unless they act accordingly in following the rules and all whilst the bloke who sets the rules breaks social distancing and not wearing a mask Seriously just wtf
|
|
|
Post by Rednwhitenblue on Sept 30, 2020 7:15:42 GMT
On the day he didn’t know his own rules Boris Johnson turns up at a woodwork class indoors with no mask and no social distancing whilst the rest of the country is under draconian laws and students just out of childhood under house arrest.....seriously this country needs to wake up and smell the fucking coffee No matter your politics they are taking the piss out of the British nation What a shame it took a deadly virus for most to see that...
|
|
|
Post by Timmypotter on Sept 30, 2020 7:16:27 GMT
No longer works in the UK, because you have to ask 'what year is your appointment?' 2230
|
|
|
Post by CBUFAWKIPWH on Sept 30, 2020 7:17:32 GMT
You don’t need tinfoil to see the collateral damage everywhere I found it astounding that people can simply glaze over and shrug their shoulders when 90-100 percent of positives are false positives. Maybe it's just me, but I would say that is pretty important. When our entire country is being crippled based on these positive test results. And lives, jobs and freedoms lost. Based on this, it is criminal act. The level of cognitive dissonance required to continue to go along with this fiction is breathtaking. And people have nerve to throw around 'tin foil hat' labels. I guess being entrenched in a position is more important, and meanwhile watching their life go down the shitter. Let's all stare at colourful graphs and slate people for having fun instead. See link regarding false positives. You will no doubt choose to ignore this interpretation of the situation in the same way as you have chosen to ignore every fact relating to the existence of covid-19 in order to avoid the massive cognitive dissonance the acceptance that covid-19 is real and kills people would have on your frankly insane view of the world. You are living in a fantasy world and your inability to differentiate between facts and opinions means there is no way out - you will only accept opinions that square with you belief system and ignore every fact and piece of evidence that doesn't fit. It's easy for me to avoid cognitive dissonance because all I have to do is question dodgy opinions. You have to ignore facts and every piece of hard evidence out there - the mental gymnastics you have to perform in order to avoid cognitive dissonance would make Olga Korbut proud. Covid 19 is a real virus and in the real world it kills people. If you don't accept that as a starting point then literally everything you have to say on the matter is bullshit.
|
|
|
Post by Davef on Sept 30, 2020 7:40:55 GMT
Looking at the replies to this tweet, I don't think he's got the reaction he expected.
Anyway, it looks like the smearing of Carl Heneghan has begun.
|
|
|
Post by starkiller on Sept 30, 2020 7:41:18 GMT
I found it astounding that people can simply glaze over and shrug their shoulders when 90-100 percent of positives are false positives. Maybe it's just me, but I would say that is pretty important. When our entire country is being crippled based on these positive test results. And lives, jobs and freedoms lost. Based on this, it is criminal act. The level of cognitive dissonance required to continue to go along with this fiction is breathtaking. And people have nerve to throw around 'tin foil hat' labels. I guess being entrenched in a position is more important, and meanwhile watching their life go down the shitter. Let's all stare at colourful graphs and slate people for having fun instead. See link regarding false positives. You will no doubt choose to ignore this interpretation of the situation in the same way as you have chosen to ignore every fact relating to the existence of covid-19 in order to avoid the massive cognitive dissonance the acceptance that covid-19 is real and kills people would have on your frankly insane view of the world. You are living in a fantasy world and your inability to differentiate between facts and opinions means there is no way out - you will only accept opinions that square with you belief system and ignore every fact and piece of evidence that doesn't fit. It's easy for me to avoid cognitive dissonance because all I have to do is question dodgy opinions. You have to ignore facts and every piece of hard evidence out there - the mental gymnastics you have to perform in order to avoid cognitive dissonance would make Olga Korbut proud. Covid 19 is a real virus and in the real world it kills people. If you don't accept that as a starting point then literally everything you have to say on the matter is bullshit. I think you've overdosed on the BBC's hitpieces on those who dare to question. Always so aggressive and hostile to those who want some questioning. In fact, you've described yourself, in your latest psychoanalysis that you love to dish out to others. But before I refer to Freud, how about accepting this little stat as a 'starting point'. Any chance of the BBC giving us a flu death graph everyday? Then let's talk about care home death stats and the procedures that led to them, and how they amounted to the majority of supposed covid 19 deaths in the UK. Then the thousands of medics now getting brave enough to speak out. This will only increase. And the Huffington post, which is simply a propaganda mouthpiece, fails to even mention the fundamental problems with the PCR test in general, including the running of 45 cycles. You are being scammed. Rushed out diktats, no questioning, and no democratic process.
|
|
|
Post by henry on Sept 30, 2020 8:00:52 GMT
1 million women have missed breast cancer screening. Well done government, well done advisors. I hope you get your fucking arse’s sued.
|
|
|
Post by terryconroysmagic on Sept 30, 2020 8:24:30 GMT
Was he on a private plane? Students threatened that they can’t go home to see their families at Christmas unless they act accordingly in following the rules and all whilst the bloke who sets the rules breaks social distancing and not wearing a mask Seriously just wtf Politicians have always been hypocritical and arrogant but they tended to at least try and hide it. These clowns are just now rubbing our noses in it. I think the tide is starting to turn and people are not prepared to put up with illogical nonsense that our overlords (in a nod to starkiller 🤣) themselves openly ignore
|
|
|
Post by Paul Spencer on Sept 30, 2020 8:46:38 GMT
See link regarding false positives. You will no doubt choose to ignore this interpretation of the situation in the same way as you have chosen to ignore every fact relating to the existence of covid-19 in order to avoid the massive cognitive dissonance the acceptance that covid-19 is real and kills people would have on your frankly insane view of the world. You are living in a fantasy world and your inability to differentiate between facts and opinions means there is no way out - you will only accept opinions that square with you belief system and ignore every fact and piece of evidence that doesn't fit. It's easy for me to avoid cognitive dissonance because all I have to do is question dodgy opinions. You have to ignore facts and every piece of hard evidence out there - the mental gymnastics you have to perform in order to avoid cognitive dissonance would make Olga Korbut proud. Covid 19 is a real virus and in the real world it kills people. If you don't accept that as a starting point then literally everything you have to say on the matter is bullshit. I think you've overdosed on the BBC's hitpieces on those who dare to question. Always so aggressive and hostile to those who want some questioning. In fact, you've described yourself, in your latest psychoanalysis that you love to dish out to others. But before I refer to Freud, how about accepting this little stat as a 'starting point'. Any chance of the BBC giving us a flu death graph everyday? Then let's talk about care home death stats and the procedures that led to them, and how they amounted to the majority of supposed covid 19 deaths in the UK. Then the thousands of medics now getting brave enough to speak out. This will only increase. And the Huffington post, which is simply a propaganda mouthpiece, fails to even mention the fundamental problems with the PCR test in general, including the running of 45 cycles. You are being scammed. Rushed out diktats, no questioning, and no democratic process. Why should anybody accept "this little stat from The Sun"? You've already had the link from Full Fact debunking it replied to you before but you choose to still post dodgy stuff from The Sun. fullfact.org/health/flu-covid-deaths/
|
|
|
Post by MilanStokie on Sept 30, 2020 8:59:34 GMT
See link regarding false positives. You will no doubt choose to ignore this interpretation of the situation in the same way as you have chosen to ignore every fact relating to the existence of covid-19 in order to avoid the massive cognitive dissonance the acceptance that covid-19 is real and kills people would have on your frankly insane view of the world. You are living in a fantasy world and your inability to differentiate between facts and opinions means there is no way out - you will only accept opinions that square with you belief system and ignore every fact and piece of evidence that doesn't fit. It's easy for me to avoid cognitive dissonance because all I have to do is question dodgy opinions. You have to ignore facts and every piece of hard evidence out there - the mental gymnastics you have to perform in order to avoid cognitive dissonance would make Olga Korbut proud. Covid 19 is a real virus and in the real world it kills people. If you don't accept that as a starting point then literally everything you have to say on the matter is bullshit. I think you've overdosed on the BBC's hitpieces on those who dare to question. Always so aggressive and hostile to those who want some questioning. In fact, you've described yourself, in your latest psychoanalysis that you love to dish out to others. But before I refer to Freud, how about accepting this little stat as a 'starting point'. Any chance of the BBC giving us a flu death graph everyday? Then let's talk about care home death stats and the procedures that led to them, and how they amounted to the majority of supposed covid 19 deaths in the UK. Then the thousands of medics now getting brave enough to speak out. This will only increase. And the Huffington post, which is simply a propaganda mouthpiece, fails to even mention the fundamental problems with the PCR test in general, including the running of 45 cycles. You are being scammed. Rushed out diktats, no questioning, and no democratic process. Apart from the fact its an Influenza and Pneumonia combo data (something you dont necessarily NEED to catch from someone), ESOF has fully explained Influenza data a couple of pages back. The data represented is not factual and is based on modelling that is given a much higher amount than is official. Over the course of the year, Covid-19 will have killed more people than Influenza and that is with the modelling included. Unsure as to why you keep pushing this particular point when countering evidence is being thrust back at you on multiple occasions and all you have is an article from The Sun.
|
|
|
Post by CBUFAWKIPWH on Sept 30, 2020 9:02:44 GMT
See link regarding false positives. You will no doubt choose to ignore this interpretation of the situation in the same way as you have chosen to ignore every fact relating to the existence of covid-19 in order to avoid the massive cognitive dissonance the acceptance that covid-19 is real and kills people would have on your frankly insane view of the world. You are living in a fantasy world and your inability to differentiate between facts and opinions means there is no way out - you will only accept opinions that square with you belief system and ignore every fact and piece of evidence that doesn't fit. It's easy for me to avoid cognitive dissonance because all I have to do is question dodgy opinions. You have to ignore facts and every piece of hard evidence out there - the mental gymnastics you have to perform in order to avoid cognitive dissonance would make Olga Korbut proud. Covid 19 is a real virus and in the real world it kills people. If you don't accept that as a starting point then literally everything you have to say on the matter is bullshit. I think you've overdosed on the BBC's hitpieces on those who dare to question. Always so aggressive and hostile to those who want some questioning. In fact, you've described yourself, in your latest psychoanalysis that you love to dish out to others. But before I refer to Freud, how about accepting this little stat as a 'starting point'. Any chance of the BBC giving us a flu death graph everyday? Then let's talk about care home death stats and the procedures that led to them, and how they amounted to the majority of supposed covid 19 deaths in the UK. Then the thousands of medics now getting brave enough to speak out. This will only increase. And the Huffington post, which is simply a propaganda mouthpiece, fails to even mention the fundamental problems with the PCR test in general, including the running of 45 cycles. You are being scammed. Rushed out diktats, no questioning, and no democratic process. Covid-19 is a real virus that kills people - over 40,000 in the UK and about 1 million world wide. These are facts. The Huffington post and the BBC have written pieces on Covid and yes both publications have an editorial angle. However they are not primary sources of evidence regarding the existence of Covid-19. Everybody who has had any real world contact with Covid 19 (people who have had it, relatives of people who have died from it, researchers in the disease, the medical profession...) are saying it is real. There are debates going on about the severity of the disease, the threshold for herd immunity and appropriate responses to the pandemic but there are very few people questioning it's actual existence and the fact it kills people. I am not being scammed. Covid 19 is real and it kills people. That is not an opinion it is a statement of fact. This is the fundamental flaw in your belief system - you only recognise opinions and you don't accept that there are facts about the real world. Therefore to you everything is a level playing field and your opinions are as valid as every other opinion. The problem is some things aren't a matter of opinion - they are facts about the real world. Denying facts and building a belief system based purely on filtering between competing opinions is the very definition of insanity. To be sane means having a mental picture of the world grounded in what the real world is actually like. Facts about the real world are the foundations of a sane belief system - a belief system that does not accept facts about the real world is by definition unhinged - it has no roots in reality. If this were a thread about the difficulty of climbing Mount Everest and I spammed every page claiming that Mount Everest isn't real and was made up by the Nepalese tourist board to boost the Nepalese tourist industry you and everyone else would be justified in calling me a bullshitting lunatic. If I insisted that the only evidence I have for believing in Mount Everest are articles put out by the BBC and Huffington Post and dismissed the evidence because I don't like their editorial policies and anyway they are probably in the pay of the Nepalese government no-one would take me seriously. Swap Covid-19 for Mount Everest and this is exactly what you are doing. The only difference is that you expect to be taken seriously and get huffy when someone points out that you are not expressing a legitimate opinion, you are denying facts about the real world. Your covid denying conspiracy theory is utter bullshit. And anyone who believes in it has quite literally lost their grip on reality. The reason I am aggressive (I prefer passionate) about this is because the more people who believe this shit the more the world becomes a dangerous place. And once the lunatics have taken over the asylum we're in big trouble.
|
|
|
Post by plug on Sept 30, 2020 9:09:55 GMT
No longer works in the UK, because you have to ask 'what year is your appointment?' 2230 1430 Shit. I've missed it.
|
|
|
Post by starkiller on Sept 30, 2020 9:20:30 GMT
I think you've overdosed on the BBC's hitpieces on those who dare to question. Always so aggressive and hostile to those who want some questioning. In fact, you've described yourself, in your latest psychoanalysis that you love to dish out to others. But before I refer to Freud, how about accepting this little stat as a 'starting point'. Any chance of the BBC giving us a flu death graph everyday? Then let's talk about care home death stats and the procedures that led to them, and how they amounted to the majority of supposed covid 19 deaths in the UK. Then the thousands of medics now getting brave enough to speak out. This will only increase. And the Huffington post, which is simply a propaganda mouthpiece, fails to even mention the fundamental problems with the PCR test in general, including the running of 45 cycles. You are being scammed. Rushed out diktats, no questioning, and no democratic process. Why should anybody accept "this little stat from The Sun"? You've already had the link from Full Fact debunking it replied to you before but you choose to still post dodgy stuff from The Sun. fullfact.org/health/flu-covid-deaths/You post stuff from fullfact.org. There's your Orwell Award, right there. The epitome of 'don't think that, you must think this'.
|
|
|
Post by danceswithclams on Sept 30, 2020 9:25:09 GMT
If this were a thread about the difficulty of climbing Mount Everest and I spammed every page claiming that Mount Everest isn't real and was made up by the Nepalese tourist board to boost the Nepalese tourist industry you and everyone else would be justified in calling me a bullshitting lunatic. If I insisted that the only evidence I have for believing in Mount Everest are articles put out by the BBC and Huffington Post and dismissed the evidence because I don't like their editorial policies and anyway they are probably in the pay of the Nepalese government no-one would take me seriously. Swap Covid-19 for Mount Everest and this is exactly what you are doing. The only difference is that you expect to be taken seriously and get huffy when someone points out that you are not expressing a legitimate opinion, you are denying facts about the real world. Mount Everest isn't real mate. I know someone who's dad claimed to have climbed it and he even showed me photos but if you looked closely you could see that the images were staged and just showed his dad wearing crampons at a snow-covered Centre Parcs. It's not the Nepalese government behind this ruse though, it's 'Big Mountain' (not the shit mid-90s cod-reggae band, but a shadowy cabal comprising of Go Outdoors, Millets, The North Face, Karrimor, and rather inexplicably, Tile Mountain). WAKE UP SHEEPLE!
|
|
|
Post by Gods on Sept 30, 2020 9:42:53 GMT
Current Covid deaths are low, but it's about the trend isn't it ?
We've seen it can kill a thousand folks a day, it did so for 3 consecutive weeks.
I suppose the question is do we assume that won't happen again or do we do something about it or perhaps that's the lesser price to pay for trashing the economy.
And what of other diseases on hold, but can we treat them anyway if hospital corridors are rammed with wheezing Covid patients?
No easy answers
|
|
|
Post by MilanStokie on Sept 30, 2020 9:50:04 GMT
Current Covid deaths are low, but it's about the trend isn't it ? We've seen it can kill a thousand folks a day, it did so for 3 consecutive weeks. I suppose the question is do we assume that won't happen again or do we do something about it or perhaps that's the lesser price to pay for trashing the economy. And what of other diseases on hold, but can we treat them anyway if hospital corridors are rammed with wheezing Covid patients? No easy answers Opinions coming out everywhere. You can't look much past the raw statistics and compare to other countries that may be slightly ahead. I said exactly this back in March as it was inevitable UK would go the same way as Italy. It shouldn't have to sound like an "I told you so" moment, but really people need to wake up. The whole world is approaching this in the same way, not just the UK who are imposing restrictions and lockdowns. Its not being done for shits and giggle and global economy ruination. We need to follow the advice more, listen to the experts more and not Dave down the pub who thinks he's an expert on viral load and spreads when using a mask.
|
|
|
Post by Timmypotter on Sept 30, 2020 9:52:56 GMT
If this were a thread about the difficulty of climbing Mount Everest and I spammed every page claiming that Mount Everest isn't real and was made up by the Nepalese tourist board to boost the Nepalese tourist industry you and everyone else would be justified in calling me a bullshitting lunatic. If I insisted that the only evidence I have for believing in Mount Everest are articles put out by the BBC and Huffington Post and dismissed the evidence because I don't like their editorial policies and anyway they are probably in the pay of the Nepalese government no-one would take me seriously. Swap Covid-19 for Mount Everest and this is exactly what you are doing. The only difference is that you expect to be taken seriously and get huffy when someone points out that you are not expressing a legitimate opinion, you are denying facts about the real world. Mount Everest isn't real mate. I know someone who's dad claimed to have climbed it and he even showed me photos but if you looked closely you could see that the images were staged and just showed his dad wearing crampons at a snow-covered Centre Parcs. It's not the Nepalese government behind this ruse though, it's 'Big Mountain' (not the shit mid-90s cod-reggae band, but a shadowy cabal comprising of Go Outdoors, Millets, The North Face, Karrimor, and rather inexplicably, Tile Mountain). WAKE UP SHEEPLE! Aswad and UB40 have questions to answer!
|
|
|
Post by andystokey on Sept 30, 2020 9:57:38 GMT
Operation Moneyshot! and the vaccine passport I've already heard that pubs in Stoke won't let you in if you haven't downloaded the T&T app because they can't be arsed to use pen and paper and are worried about their own liabilities. So if it could be scaled up a declaration that you are Covid free would be an obvious next step in that requirement. Luckily the government is totally incompetent and so that money will be completely wasted before anyone asks me for my vaccine passport. Bpesides the co-op in the village is the only place I go as my shed is now considered sovereign territory. Nevertheless the government are completely raving mad. "operation moneyshot" is just a code name for spunking money up the wall www.bmj.com/content/370/bmj.m3558
|
|
|
Post by starkiller on Sept 30, 2020 10:07:06 GMT
Current Covid deaths are low, but it's about the trend isn't it ? We've seen it can kill a thousand folks a day, it did so for 3 consecutive weeks. I suppose the question is do we assume that won't happen again or do we do something about it or perhaps that's the lesser price to pay for trashing the economy. And what of other diseases on hold, but can we treat them anyway if hospital corridors are rammed with wheezing Covid patients? No easy answers Opinions coming out everywhere. You can't look much past the raw statistics and compare to other countries that may be slightly ahead. I said exactly this back in March as it was inevitable UK would go the same way as Italy. It shouldn't have to sound like an "I told you so" moment, but really people need to wake up. The whole world is approaching this in the same way, not just the UK who are imposing restrictions and lockdowns. Its not being done for shits and giggle and global economy ruination. We need to follow the advice more, listen to the experts more and not Dave down the pub who thinks he's an expert on viral load and spreads when using a mask. It maybe is about global economy ruination. We have the equivalent of Dave down the pub controlling world health policies. Dave has the same medical qualifications as Gates, but not as much money.
|
|
|
Post by MilanStokie on Sept 30, 2020 10:10:59 GMT
Opinions coming out everywhere. You can't look much past the raw statistics and compare to other countries that may be slightly ahead. I said exactly this back in March as it was inevitable UK would go the same way as Italy. It shouldn't have to sound like an "I told you so" moment, but really people need to wake up. The whole world is approaching this in the same way, not just the UK who are imposing restrictions and lockdowns. Its not being done for shits and giggle and global economy ruination. We need to follow the advice more, listen to the experts more and not Dave down the pub who thinks he's an expert on viral load and spreads when using a mask. It maybe is about global economy ruination. We have the equivalent of Dave down the pub controlling world health policies. Dave has the same medical qualifications as Gates, but not as much money. But you say you aren't a conspiracy theorist but then you come out with this? You don't do yourself any favours and you are kidding nobody here.
|
|
|
Post by starkiller on Sept 30, 2020 10:44:58 GMT
It maybe is about global economy ruination. We have the equivalent of Dave down the pub controlling world health policies. Dave has the same medical qualifications as Gates, but not as much money. But you say you aren't a conspiracy theorist but then you come out with this? You don't do yourself any favours and you are kidding nobody here. I'm not trying to kid anyone. But economic suicide for something that has a 99.9 percent recovery rate has many folk you could never describe as conspiracy theorists in a basement to draw similar conclusions. Both medics and economists. It would be a insult to label these people as fruitcakes. And ignorant to dismiss them, simply because organisations like the BBC won't welcome this discussion and debate.
|
|
|
Post by Paul Spencer on Sept 30, 2020 10:49:05 GMT
Why should anybody accept "this little stat from The Sun"? You've already had the link from Full Fact debunking it replied to you before but you choose to still post dodgy stuff from The Sun. fullfact.org/health/flu-covid-deaths/You post stuff from fullfact.org. There's your Orwell Award, right there. The epitome of 'don't think that, you must think this'. Blimey, listen to yourself. That's exactly what YOU are doing (and doing it to yourself). You've got an idea in your head about what you THINK is going on and rather than ask questions, rather than attempt to find unbiased or at least alternative view points, you're locked into an ever spiralling search for anything that might (no matter how small) confirm your suspicion, regardless of the credibility of the source that might bring you that comfort.
|
|