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Post by smallthorner on Sept 25, 2020 21:13:59 GMT
That's a bit "George Orwell" ish isn't it. Apple Corp providing hardware. Microsoft providing platform. Google providing services. ?? Oh.. fuck... starkillers right. It’s easy to laugh but in the space of 8 months we’ve gone from do what you want to curfews, tracking and volunteer spies Fucking ridiculous I'm not laughing pal. I'm shit scared that I'm either going die from Covid19 or the government are going to stop paying my pension cuz I'm spending it all on booze.
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Post by Davef on Sept 25, 2020 21:19:43 GMT
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Post by salopstick on Sept 25, 2020 21:19:45 GMT
It’s easy to laugh but in the space of 8 months we’ve gone from do what you want to curfews, tracking and volunteer spies Fucking ridiculous I'm not laughing pal. I'm shit scared that I'm either going die from Covid19 or the government are going to stop paying my pension cuz I'm spending it all on booze. You won’t die from covid 19 so I hope they keep paying your pension
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Post by prettything on Sept 25, 2020 21:23:38 GMT
It has, mate. Latest figures are 45% care homes , 21%schools, 18% workplace I work in hospitality, where we supply and invest as a business. This sector equates to 5% of transmissions. I am now back on furlough. The day after Johnson announced the 10.00pm closing time, our orders were cancelled or cut by around two thirds. The announcement has been devastating for the industry, with no science to back his decision. It was an easy target, and will have no effect on transmissions, if anything, it will make it worse,with people leaving at the same time, and I would think, many going to other houses to continue the night. It’s not about closing an hour earlier. It’s about being forced to close at 10. Many bars in city centres stay open after 11, with the hours between 9-12, being the most busiest and profitable time for them.Closing at 10 for restaurants, means that they are limited to one sitting a night, compared to 2 or three. It’s already had a devastating impact, and I fear for the future. Exactly mate, bars and hospitality have become an easy target. Throughout July and August, new cases and hospital admissions continued to plummet even though pubs and restaurants had reopened. Schools reopened at the beginning of September and now the figures are going through the roof but it's hospitality getting penalised for it. I know of a massive cocktail bar in London which does the vast majority of it's trade between 11pm and 3am. They've been closed for the last few weeks, spending thousands on having a huge Covid-safe refurb, they're opening night was on Wednesday, they've had one night open and are now back closed, almost certain to go bust because they'll get no support at the end of next month because the government have MADE them no longer 'viable'. 100 percent agree. I live in Birmingham, and the office blocks are 80% empty, which has now put the night time economy in jeopardy, as a result of Johnson’s insane posturing in the battle against Covid. Even though I didn’t vote for Johnson, I always defended him, because of furlough and the business support in March. But this, and the recently announced furlough replacement, has cemented my underlying opinion of him,as being an unprepared, lazy, blagger, with no detailed or reasoned approach to his approach in leading this country. He has left this sector, which employs 1.9 million people, out to dry, with a stroke of a pen. All, with no scientific basis, simply to be seen that he is doing something about this awful pandemic. The worst thing is, is that in a few weeks time, as the infection rate gets worse, he won’t go back on this decision, even though this sector has a very minimal impact on the pandemic.
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Post by smallthorner on Sept 25, 2020 21:30:56 GMT
I'm not laughing pal. I'm shit scared that I'm either going die from Covid19 or the government are going to stop paying my pension cuz I'm spending it all on booze. You won’t die from covid 19 so I hope they keep paying your pension You can't make that statement about covid to be honest. I know where you're coming from, but I'm in a risk category. Autumn of next year says trumper before we get back to normal. Good or bad.
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Post by starkiller on Sept 25, 2020 21:40:25 GMT
It is a pandemic, the infection rate is way above a normal flu. I agree, there has been medical neglect. I have unfortunately witnessed this firsthand,when my mother in law died of cancer in May. I still have questions about her treatment because of this focus on Covid . What is the agenda? It is not way above normal flu. If you check what a pandemic is, this have never been much past the lowest level. And yet we have a response reserved for the highest level.
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Post by scfcbiancorossi on Sept 25, 2020 21:43:00 GMT
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Post by prettything on Sept 25, 2020 21:45:04 GMT
It is not way above normal flu. If you check what a pandemic is, this have never been much past the lowest level. And yet we have a response reserved for the highest level. It was 6-16 times higher at its peak. I’m sure that figure will be overtaken come winter . What is the agenda, though, mate?
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Post by Olgrligm on Sept 25, 2020 21:47:12 GMT
I just wonder why the rise in positive testing has not equated with the reopening of schools. Surely that is a massive contributor. Its been 3 weeks now and this surge has coincided with this. What did anyone expect? We've known for a long time that schools are the biggest spreaders of disease. Ferguson first showed as much in 2006.
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Post by DrGonzo on Sept 25, 2020 21:49:05 GMT
See it’s turning into a surveillance issue now They have made a voluntary app compulsory to access certain services. And people go along with it Just you wait. Next will be you have to have the app if you want to go in a shop, then you need the app to go to work. Then. They know all your movements, where you spend your time, which shops you go to, wouldn't surprise me if it "intercepts" other info in your phone. Outcome is the government have control of a multi billion pound information database that they can sell to multiple industries to exploit. And to think that we were worried about Huawei - this could be even worse. One minute the Government are incapable of putting together basic contracts to effectively purchase PPE and wasting thousands on deals for ineffective antibody tests, yet you believe they are capable of creating a mass surveillance system in cahoots with big tech companies. Honestly some of you folks need some time away, you really do.
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Post by starkiller on Sept 25, 2020 21:54:01 GMT
It was 6-16 times higher at its peak. I’m sure that figure will be overtaken come winter . What is the agenda, though, mate? You can make your own conclusions. But things have certainly gone dramatically in a certain direction.
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Post by prettything on Sept 25, 2020 22:02:37 GMT
You can make your own conclusions. But things have certainly gone dramatically in a certain direction. Come on mate. A tweet by Ian Brown ain’t going to cut the mustard. I’m not belittling your thinking, I would just like to know what you think the agenda is? I don’t see how putting on a face mask in a supermarket is part of a plan to control the population. I understand that some corporations are doing well out of this , but most are losing money at the same time. I just can’t see the end game.
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Post by chad on Sept 25, 2020 22:17:12 GMT
Just you wait. Next will be you have to have the app if you want to go in a shop, then you need the app to go to work. Then. They know all your movements, where you spend your time, which shops you go to, wouldn't surprise me if it "intercepts" other info in your phone. Outcome is the government have control of a multi billion pound information database that they can sell to multiple industries to exploit. And to think that we were worried about Huawei - this could be even worse. One minute the Government are incapable of putting together basic contracts to effectively purchase PPE and wasting thousands on deals for ineffective antibody tests, yet you believe they are capable of creating a mass surveillance system in cahoots with big tech companies. Honestly some of you folks need some time away, you really do. Yep. There’s some real utter bollocks being spouted tonight
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Post by musik on Sept 25, 2020 22:20:55 GMT
Corona apart, why don't they take the next subway train? I would never have let any fucker push me like that! 😠
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Post by starkiller on Sept 25, 2020 23:01:54 GMT
Authoritarian measures and fear bullshit are the real killer virus. And responsible for far more deaths
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Post by Gary Hackett on Sept 25, 2020 23:46:57 GMT
New English hospital admissions 314, the first time it's been over 300 since June. The 7 day rolling average throughout August was flat, hovering around 50, the current 7 day rolling average is 243. The number of patients on ventilators is 227, the last time it was that high, was also in June. Any idea what the current daily deaths are based on the old figure ( over 28 days) I can't find this anywhere? Cheers
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Post by PerthPotter on Sept 26, 2020 2:09:10 GMT
Ah Pete Evans. The bloke who recommended that looking briefly direct into the sun at sunrise and sunset (without wearing protection) was good for your health. That bloke is a fucking lunatic and is heavily criticised here in Australia. He also got fined for promoting a $15000 device that could “cure” coronavirus - www.medreach.com.au/covid-19-scams-pete-evans-biocharger-device/He is the last person I would be taking advice from!!
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Post by elystokie on Sept 26, 2020 6:15:01 GMT
What ever it takes to achieve it, I don't think you can stop emergency services and everyone needs access to food and healthcare. You need fire brigade, hospitals, police, all the things they require like power, gas, fuel, spare parts, so power stations, electricity distribution, gas distribution, emergency repairs, security services, break down services, then there are all the things they require like food, water, transport to work, etc. Then there industrial processes that cannot be shutdown easily without massive restart costs like refineries, power stations (Oh! We keep them going.), steelworks processes like blast furnaces. In the end all you can do without is education, and entertainment, so no TV, Internet, phones (Oh! we need them.), pubs, clothes shops, cafes. Do we need the postal services? Power stations are pretty quick to get on and offline nowadays, mainly CCGT, unless they're mothballed most can be online from shutdown in a couple of hours if the steam turbine has been kept warm.
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Post by werrington on Sept 26, 2020 7:27:01 GMT
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Post by thisisouryear on Sept 26, 2020 7:34:21 GMT
It was 6-16 times higher at its peak. I’m sure that figure will be overtaken come winter . What is the agenda, though, mate? The majority of people who get flu don't die and then end up knocked off their feet for months on end unable to go about their lives because of damage to all their organs. There is not enough focus on long Covid and maybe once more information comes out about it then people might realise there is more to this virus than just deaths. There is not enough data, and then there is combination of people who get long Covid then get reinfected too and that may affect the young and old. Although some people can be left fatigued by Flu it does appear that many more people are still suffering long after getting Covid with multiple problems. What percent of people this affects we don't know yet but given the response when this is bought up on the radio it seems it's quite as lot.
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Post by werrington on Sept 26, 2020 7:49:38 GMT
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Post by salopstick on Sept 26, 2020 7:54:46 GMT
I’d that’s the official predictions I reckon it’s more than that. Double at least
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Post by MilanStokie on Sept 26, 2020 8:06:30 GMT
Authoritarian measures and fear bullshit are the real killer virus. And responsible for far more deaths If these numbers are correct, why don't they add up to the official overall statistics? Generally speaking, 1 million dead with 32 million infected, so just shy of 3%. The stats you keep throwing out show it's under 0.1%. Are you able to explain?
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Post by Northy on Sept 26, 2020 8:11:00 GMT
That video is far older than the corona virus
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Post by thisisouryear on Sept 26, 2020 8:13:46 GMT
Authoritarian measures and fear bullshit are the real killer virus. And responsible for far more deaths If these numbers are correct, why don't they add up to the official overall statistics? Generally speaking, 1 million dead with 32 million infected, so just shy of 3%. The stats you keep throwing out show it's under 0.1%. Are you able to explain? The last 7 days the death rate was 0.22 per 100,000 straight from the CDC so that's probably stats from a completely different disease. I can't find those stats from the source. covid.cdc.gov/covid-data-tracker/#pop-factors_newdeaths
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Post by Davef on Sept 26, 2020 8:19:13 GMT
That video is far older than the corona virus And is obviously a joke.
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Post by Northy on Sept 26, 2020 8:21:18 GMT
Authoritarian measures and fear bullshit are the real killer virus. And responsible for far more deaths what is that apart from a few numbers on a picture ?
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Post by thisisouryear on Sept 26, 2020 8:27:35 GMT
Authoritarian measures and fear bullshit are the real killer virus. And responsible for far more deaths what is that apart from a few numbers on a picture ? If you believe information like that at face value you really are leaving yourself wide open to being manipulated.
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Post by Northy on Sept 26, 2020 8:30:19 GMT
what is that apart from a few numbers on a picture ? If you believe information like that at face value you really are leaving yourself wide open to being manipulated. Yep, anyone can post a picture of a few numbers and people get reeled in by it when trying to prove a side in a discussion, no facts aor peer reviews or anything.
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Post by The Drunken Communist on Sept 26, 2020 8:42:43 GMT
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