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Post by StaffordPotter on Feb 28, 2020 13:00:58 GMT
Happy with that. Awaiting the meltdown from those without season tickets who'll have to pay for travel like the rest of us.
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Post by scfc75 on Feb 28, 2020 13:01:12 GMT
Likewise. We should sell tickets in blocks of games. 5 games for £x, 10 games for £y. The games not being fixed with the purchaser being able to redeem their match voucher for whatever game they like during the course of the season. Anything that is more creative than brilliant season ticket prices with extortionate matchday prices has to be a step in the right direction. Overall, in the grand scheme of things, if you are committed to supporting the club on a matchday more often than not, we can have few gripes about pricing. In a commercial world, it is simply about removing the obstacles as much as is feasibly possible. EDIT - One thing I have never really understood is why do the Cardiff offer for a game in February. Surely running such offers whilst season tickets are on sale for the following season may actually help to capture the imagination of the floater and put in their mind the benefits of a season ticket. Creativity as you say. Something we are sadly lacking in at times. Complacency on and off the field of play has blighted us for years. Completely agree mate. I tempted an old friend and lapsed Stokie to the Charlton game with a spare ST and then he bought a £10 ticket for the Cardiff game. He's obviously got the bug and is a lucky mascot to boot but £30 a pop is a bit steep when he's travelling from Bury. He said if he'd come before Christmas he might have been tempted with a half season ticket but that's no longer available. However, a discounted block of 5 or 6 to the end of season would have seriously tempted him. As it is he might come again if one of our ST's is available or another £10 offer. If they did a 'Final 6' block and then give them the option of buying those at early bird prices for next year it might capture a few, especially if we have a positive end to the season.I’m pretty sure we did this in the promotion season, didn’t we..? I seem to remember an offer where you could buy a block of the last 4 or 5 games.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 28, 2020 13:01:50 GMT
Likewise. We should sell tickets in blocks of games. 5 games for £x, 10 games for £y. The games not being fixed with the purchaser being able to redeem their match voucher for whatever game they like during the course of the season. Anything that is more creative than brilliant season ticket prices with extortionate matchday prices has to be a step in the right direction. Overall, in the grand scheme of things, if you are committed to supporting the club on a matchday more often than not, we can have few gripes about pricing. In a commercial world, it is simply about removing the obstacles as much as is feasibly possible. EDIT - One thing I have never really understood is why do the Cardiff offer for a game in February. Surely running such offers whilst season tickets are on sale for the following season may actually help to capture the imagination of the floater and put in their mind the benefits of a season ticket. Creativity as you say. Something we are sadly lacking in at times. Complacency on and off the field of play has blighted us for years. Completely agree mate. I tempted an old friend and lapsed Stokie to the Charlton game with a spare ST and then he bought a £10 ticket for the Cardiff game. He's obviously got the bug and is a lucky mascot to boot but £30 a pop is a bit steep when he's travelling from Bury. He said if he'd come before Christmas he might have been tempted with a half season ticket but that's no longer available. However, a discounted block of 5 or 6 to the end of season would have seriously tempted him. As it is he might come again if one of our ST's is available or another £10 offer. If they did a 'Final 6' block and then give them the option of buying those at early bird prices for next year it might capture a few, especially if we have a positive end to the season. I'm literally down the road from Bury. We have spare tickets going from time to time and he could happily jump in with me and my lads.....
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Post by Laughing Gravy on Feb 28, 2020 13:07:02 GMT
Completely agree mate. I tempted an old friend and lapsed Stokie to the Charlton game with a spare ST and then he bought a £10 ticket for the Cardiff game. He's obviously got the bug and is a lucky mascot to boot but £30 a pop is a bit steep when he's travelling from Bury. He said if he'd come before Christmas he might have been tempted with a half season ticket but that's no longer available. However, a discounted block of 5 or 6 to the end of season would have seriously tempted him. As it is he might come again if one of our ST's is available or another £10 offer. If they did a 'Final 6' block and then give them the option of buying those at early bird prices for next year it might capture a few, especially if we have a positive end to the season. I'm literally down the road from Bury. We have spare tickets going from time to time and he could happily jump in with me and my lads..... Thanks for the offer mate I'll mention it to him. PM me if you think on when/if it's free. He might not though as for some reason he likes sitting with me. I think my Tourettes must fascinate him. Plus he visits his mum in Leek on the way through.
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Post by Laughing Gravy on Feb 28, 2020 13:11:31 GMT
Completely agree mate. I tempted an old friend and lapsed Stokie to the Charlton game with a spare ST and then he bought a £10 ticket for the Cardiff game. He's obviously got the bug and is a lucky mascot to boot but £30 a pop is a bit steep when he's travelling from Bury. He said if he'd come before Christmas he might have been tempted with a half season ticket but that's no longer available. However, a discounted block of 5 or 6 to the end of season would have seriously tempted him. As it is he might come again if one of our ST's is available or another £10 offer. If they did a 'Final 6' block and then give them the option of buying those at early bird prices for next year it might capture a few, especially if we have a positive end to the season.I’m pretty sure we did this in the promotion season, didn’t we..? I seem to remember an offer where you could buy a block of the last 4 or 5 games. Not sure mate. Perhaps that's where I got the bright idea from
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Post by Deleted on Feb 28, 2020 13:13:56 GMT
I'm literally down the road from Bury. We have spare tickets going from time to time and he could happily jump in with me and my lads..... Thanks for the offer mate I'll mention it to him. PM me if you think on when/if it's free. He might not though as for some reason he likes sitting with me. I think my Tourettes must fascinate him. Plus he visits his mum in Leek on the way through. will do fella....
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Post by Lakeland Potter on Feb 28, 2020 13:33:37 GMT
I fully agree mate we should be far more imaginative with our ticketing. You obviously can't undercut ST prices otherwise it renders them pointless but a few more 'Cardiff style' £10 offers on selected games and the old 'kids for a fiver' would at least fill the ground especially when we need a big and vocal support in the last few games. I certainly wouldn't complain if a few discounted pay on the day offers meant we filled the ground for the last few home games. Likewise. We should sell tickets in blocks of games. 5 games for £x, 10 games for £y. The games not being fixed with the purchaser being able to redeem their match voucher for whatever game they like during the course of the season.Anything that is more creative than brilliant season ticket prices with extortionate matchday prices has to be a step in the right direction. Overall, in the grand scheme of things, if you are committed to supporting the club on a matchday more often than not, we can have few gripes about pricing. In a commercial world, it is simply about removing the obstacles as much as is feasibly possible. EDIT - One thing I have never really understood is why do the Cardiff offer for a game in February. Surely running such offers whilst season tickets are on sale for the following season may actually help to capture the imagination of the floater and put in their mind the benefits of a season ticket. Creativity as you say. Something we are sadly lacking in at times. Complacency on and off the field of play has blighted us for years. Totally agree about the need to be able to buy tickets in blocks of, say, 5 or 10 games. The current pricing structure for non ST holders takes no account at all of people's circumstances. There must be many fans who would happily buy a season ticket (especially at our knock down prices) but who simply can't make it to half or three quarters of the league matches per season. When I worked (15 years ago !!!) I worked shifts and I got only 1 in 2 weekends off IF I WAS LUCKY. One season I bought a season ticket thinking I would get to half the games and not make too much of a loss but the way my shifts panned out I could only make about 8 Saturday games and no midweek games. So I made a big loss on the ST that season. And it isn't just shift workers, if you have young children and are separated, or have a partner who works, baby sitting duties/child access days, eat into the games you can make. Many other clubs offer blocks of games at cut price - the more games in the block the cheaper per game. I lived and worked in Plymouth and my co workers took advantage of PLymouth Argyle's offers of cheaper tickets for 6 10 and 12 games - because season tickets just didn't make economic sense given our shift pattern.
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Post by Gods on Feb 28, 2020 13:55:22 GMT
I thought if the club were to put season ticket prices up then this might have been the moment to do it. The reason being with average championship media rights revenue being about £12m per annum or whatever it is compared to £120m per annum in the Prem and our parachute payments in their final year at an underwhelming 20% of Prem revenue on exit then once again for the first time for over a decade gate receipts will represent a sizable proportion of our total revenue and therefore 'matter' in a way they never did in the Prem and in those relatively generous first 2 seasons of parachute payments. If that makes any sense and I think it does
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Post by davejohnno1 on Feb 28, 2020 13:59:41 GMT
Likewise. We should sell tickets in blocks of games. 5 games for £x, 10 games for £y. The games not being fixed with the purchaser being able to redeem their match voucher for whatever game they like during the course of the season.Anything that is more creative than brilliant season ticket prices with extortionate matchday prices has to be a step in the right direction. Overall, in the grand scheme of things, if you are committed to supporting the club on a matchday more often than not, we can have few gripes about pricing. In a commercial world, it is simply about removing the obstacles as much as is feasibly possible. EDIT - One thing I have never really understood is why do the Cardiff offer for a game in February. Surely running such offers whilst season tickets are on sale for the following season may actually help to capture the imagination of the floater and put in their mind the benefits of a season ticket. Creativity as you say. Something we are sadly lacking in at times. Complacency on and off the field of play has blighted us for years. Totally agree about the need to be able to buy tickets in blocks of, say, 5 or 10 games. The current pricing structure for non ST holders takes no account at all of people's circumstances. There must be many fans who would happily buy a season ticket (especially at our knock down prices) but who simply can't make it to half or three quarters of the league matches per season. When I worked (15 years ago !!!) I worked shifts and I got only 1 in 2 weekends off IF I WAS LUCKY. One season I bought a season ticket thinking I would get to half the games and not make too much of a loss but the way my shifts panned out I could only make about 8 Saturday games and no midweek games. So I made a big loss on the ST that season. And it isn't just shift workers, if you have young children and are separated, or have a partner who works, baby sitting duties/child access days, eat into the games you can make. Many other clubs offer blocks of games at cut price - the more games in the block the cheaper per game. I lived and worked in Plymouth and my co workers took advantage of PLymouth Argyle's offers of cheaper tickets for 6 10 and 12 games - because season tickets just didn't make economic sense given our shift pattern. I'll always have a season ticket but I've missed more games this season than I've ever done before due to commitments with my little one. I can afford to piss a bit (not a lot) of money up the wall but many many more can't. Selling games in blocks as a half way house between a season ticket and matchday price is a no brainer. If clubs like plymouth could implement it 10 years or more ago, it shouldn't be too difficult for us to do.
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Post by rawli on Feb 28, 2020 14:03:32 GMT
Brilliant again by the club My only gripe is the £70 hike from U11 to U18 What happened to under 14s rates?
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Post by ange1 on Feb 28, 2020 14:05:06 GMT
The idea of a block or flexi ticket has been discussed by the Council with the club numerous times. Those who make the decisions do not feel that AT THIS TIME they wish to pursue the idea. We will keep trying to see if we can change that point of view.
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Post by stokerstayinup on Feb 28, 2020 14:34:59 GMT
Likewise. We should sell tickets in blocks of games. 5 games for £x, 10 games for £y. The games not being fixed with the purchaser being able to redeem their match voucher for whatever game they like during the course of the season. Anything that is more creative than brilliant season ticket prices with extortionate matchday prices has to be a step in the right direction. Overall, in the grand scheme of things, if you are committed to supporting the club on a matchday more often than not, we can have few gripes about pricing. In a commercial world, it is simply about removing the obstacles as much as is feasibly possible. This. Said it so many times. If you sold in blocks of 6 and 12 you could just split the games into Cat A and Cat B and say no more than 2 Cat A games if you buy 6 in advance, and no more than 4 Cat A games if you buy 12 in advance: Cat AWest Brom Leeds Nottm Forest Birmingham Derby County Sheff Wed Cat BFulham Brentford Preston Bristol City Blackburn Swansea Millwall Reading Hull City Charlton Huddersfield QPR Cardiff Middlesbrough Wigan Barnsley Luton A season ticket where we sit is £399 (£17 a game), a match day ticket is £30 a game. So you could sell 6 game tickets at £132 (£22 a game) and 12 game tickets at £240 (£20 a game) For me it's an absolute no brainer there's no downsides other than a slight bit of admin or a tweak to the system when people purchase their tickets for the individual matches. This would be absolutely perfect for shift workers, those who are self employed, students etc who would like to go to every game but it's not logistically possible....... It's a good idea in theory but, There is a downside as £399 to £240 is a big drop. I'm sure there's plenty of people who get a season ticket knowing full well they're likely to miss a handful of games for varying reasons.They could then downgrade to your 12 ticket plan instead of buying a season ticket,saving £150 whilst watching the midweek games on the red button at home.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 28, 2020 14:42:04 GMT
This. Said it so many times. If you sold in blocks of 6 and 12 you could just split the games into Cat A and Cat B and say no more than 2 Cat A games if you buy 6 in advance, and no more than 4 Cat A games if you buy 12 in advance: Cat AWest Brom Leeds Nottm Forest Birmingham Derby County Sheff Wed Cat BFulham Brentford Preston Bristol City Blackburn Swansea Millwall Reading Hull City Charlton Huddersfield QPR Cardiff Middlesbrough Wigan Barnsley Luton A season ticket where we sit is £399 (£17 a game), a match day ticket is £30 a game. So you could sell 6 game tickets at £132 (£22 a game) and 12 game tickets at £240 (£20 a game) For me it's an absolute no brainer there's no downsides other than a slight bit of admin or a tweak to the system when people purchase their tickets for the individual matches. This would be absolutely perfect for shift workers, those who are self employed, students etc who would like to go to every game but it's not logistically possible....... It's a good idea in theory but, There is a downside as £399 to £240 is a big drop. I'm sure there's plenty of people who get a season ticket knowing full well they're likely to miss a handful of games for varying reasons.They could then downgrade to your 12 ticket plan instead of buying a season ticket,saving £150 whilst watching the midweek games on the red button at home. I can't imagine there's many people that buy season tickets knowing they'll miss 10 games, but make it £264 (£22 a game), and the game one £144 (£24 a game). Still beneficial to do buy one if you know you'll make that amount of games, you could do it for the South Stand corner only where there's plenty of space for example.....
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Post by Deleted on Feb 28, 2020 14:42:37 GMT
The idea of a block or flexi ticket has been discussed by the Council with the club numerous times. Those who make the decisions do not feel that AT THIS TIME they wish to pursue the idea. We will keep trying to see if we can change that point of view. For what reason?
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Post by ange1 on Feb 28, 2020 14:57:20 GMT
They feel it may reduce the sale of season tickets as stokerstayinup has already suggested.
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Post by Laughing Gravy on Feb 28, 2020 15:00:37 GMT
The idea of a block or flexi ticket has been discussed by the Council with the club numerous times. Those who make the decisions do not feel that AT THIS TIME they wish to pursue the idea. We will keep trying to see if we can change that point of view. Ange, have the club considered long term discounted ST's as well. Something Dave Johnno said earlier about always having had a season ticket. The chances are he, I and many others would commit to a a ticket for 2, 5, or even longer at a reasonable discounts. I'm sure I read somewhere some club or other had brought it in or were considering it. Edit: perhaps now with the lack of security in the division is the wrong time to introduce it but hopefully moving forward.....
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Post by Deleted on Feb 28, 2020 15:04:06 GMT
They feel it may reduce the sale of season tickets as stokerstayinup has already suggested. Which is it sorry? It's completely workable and several other clubs do something similar. If you split the games into 2 categories and limited it to the South Stand where the biggest gaps are I see no reason why it would impact on season tickets sales.....
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Post by ange1 on Feb 28, 2020 15:17:25 GMT
Prestwich Potter The Supporter’s Council have asked the club on several occasions, the club feel that a flexi ticket would result in requests only for high profile games and any other block of tickets would impact on the sale of season tickets.
Laughing Gravy, we did ask about this ( I think Sheff Wed is the club talking about a 10 year ticket at present) but the club are not keen on the idea.
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Post by Laughing Gravy on Feb 28, 2020 15:28:27 GMT
Prestwich Potter The Supporter’s Council have asked the club on several occasions, the club feel that a flexi ticket would result in requests only for high profile games and any other block of tickets would impact on the sale of season tickets. Laughing Gravy, we did ask about this ( I think Sheff Wed is the club talking about a 10 year ticket at present) but the club are not keen on the idea. Thanks Ange you're right it was Sheff Weds. Did they give any reasons? Not your fault I know but apart from the very welcome ST price freeze the club does tend to display a worrying complacency and lack of creativity in it's attempts to retain and even boost it's customer base.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Feb 28, 2020 15:31:11 GMT
The idea of a block or flexi ticket has been discussed by the Council with the club numerous times. Those who make the decisions do not feel that AT THIS TIME they wish to pursue the idea. We will keep trying to see if we can change that point of view.
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Post by ange1 on Feb 28, 2020 15:31:12 GMT
Also as the price of season tickets depends on when purchased, early bird and then the other two sale periods any incentives have to take those prices points into account.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 28, 2020 15:39:56 GMT
Also as the price of season tickets depends on when purchased, early bird and then the other two sale periods any incentives have to take those prices points into account. Easily done. You just use the same price percentage increase as the season tickets after each deadline.....
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Post by ange1 on Feb 28, 2020 15:42:43 GMT
Laughing Gravy, I do not disagree with anything you say. I find it hard to comprehend how people can be “disgusted” that free travel for many has come to an end. After 2 seasons of funding when in the Premier League Stoke continued to provide and pay for the buses. It does not take a rocket scientist to see that the club need to look at costs. In addition, the club have effectively been paying for our fans to buy tickets to games away where they do not gain financially, clearly the support has been a bonus. In an ideal world it would have continued.
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Post by Laughing Gravy on Feb 28, 2020 16:35:33 GMT
Laughing Gravy, I do not disagree with anything you say. I find it hard to comprehend how people can be “disgusted” that free travel for many has come to an end. After 2 seasons of funding when in the Premier League Stoke continued to provide and pay for the buses. It does not take a rocket scientist to see that the club need to look at costs. In addition, the club have effectively been paying for our fans to buy tickets to games away where they do not gain financially, clearly the support has been a bonus. In an ideal world it would have continued. I can't argue with that Ange. That was / still is for some a great initiative but it only ever helped a certain percentage of our support in any case. As an expat although not too far removed it doesn't often benefit me personally. I don't for one second advocate the club withdrawing it entirely but I can see why they are reducing it in this way. It just worries me that the club don't appear to be tapping into the support via yourselves to exploit ideas that their customer base may have to make the whole Stoke City experience a better and possibly cheaper deal. It also worries me but doesn't surprise me that we seemed to complacently bumble along whilst in the Prem without maximising the attractiveness we then had in order to bolster ourselves up for the rainy day we're now experiencing. I think the length of time it took us to fill that corner in typifies the small time thinking within the club.
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Post by albundy on Feb 28, 2020 19:05:29 GMT
Blocks of matches where supporters could choose which games they attend would be hard to manage from a seat allocation
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Post by Deleted on Feb 28, 2020 22:02:40 GMT
Blocks of matches where supporters could choose which games they attend would be hard to manage from a seat allocation It would be no different to choosing seats normally. Or you could just use the South Stand corner which is where the most availability is......
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Post by chesterfieldstokie on Feb 29, 2020 9:06:33 GMT
Laughing Gravy, I do not disagree with anything you say. I find it hard to comprehend how people can be “disgusted” that free travel for many has come to an end. After 2 seasons of funding when in the Premier League Stoke continued to provide and pay for the buses. It does not take a rocket scientist to see that the club need to look at costs. In addition, the club have effectively been paying for our fans to buy tickets to games away where they do not gain financially, clearly the support has been a bonus. In an ideal world it would have continued. I agree completely, its never benefited me, but the club have been fantastic in this, no other club does it as far as I know. The ones who feel 'disgusted' are the ones who will always moan and want something for nothing. Impossible to please.
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Post by berahinosgoals on Feb 29, 2020 9:08:42 GMT
Do you get the money at the end of this season or the beginning of the next?
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Post by bayernoatcake on Feb 29, 2020 9:11:35 GMT
Laughing Gravy, I do not disagree with anything you say. I find it hard to comprehend how people can be “disgusted” that free travel for many has come to an end. After 2 seasons of funding when in the Premier League Stoke continued to provide and pay for the buses. It does not take a rocket scientist to see that the club need to look at costs. In addition, the club have effectively been paying for our fans to buy tickets to games away where they do not gain financially, clearly the support has been a bonus. In an ideal world it would have continued. I agree completely, its never benefited me, but the club have been fantastic in this, no other club does it as far as I know. The ones who feel 'disgusted' are the ones who will always moan and want something for nothing. Impossible to please. Who has said it’s disgusting? I’ve seen no mention of it on here and barely anything on Twitter?
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Post by chesterfieldstokie on Feb 29, 2020 9:17:59 GMT
I agree completely, its never benefited me, but the club have been fantastic in this, no other club does it as far as I know. The ones who feel 'disgusted' are the ones who will always moan and want something for nothing. Impossible to please. Who has said it’s disgusting? I’ve seen no mention of it on here and barely anything on Twitter? Perhaps wrong word, I meant to agree that its is disgusting how many are complaining about it. Just like Ange said. Although I have seen people slating the club on twitter for doing it.
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