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Post by Praetorian on Feb 23, 2020 23:49:30 GMT
He just needs to wait for another chance, loss of form happens. If he didn't get his chance after last weeks utter spunk rot from Smith, he never, ever will. Starting think you’ve got far too much of an unhealthy interest in this young man He’s got a good future, Smith is first choice rightly despite the poor performance. Edwards will get a chance to displace him don’t you worry big Sheik
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Post by boskampsflaps on Feb 23, 2020 23:59:51 GMT
He just needs to wait for another chance, loss of form happens. If he didn't get his chance after last weeks utter spunk rot from Smith, he never, ever will. He gave them a chance to make up for I get it, if it happen again against Wigan I would have expected changes.
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Post by clarkeda on Feb 24, 2020 18:04:41 GMT
Just hasn’t been good enough and not learning from his mistakes which is a shame, as the back end of last season under jones he seemed to be starting to kick on.
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Post by dudnostokie on Feb 24, 2020 18:24:15 GMT
He's got a future with us, he just needs to wait for his time to prove himself again.
Smith has solidified his place at right back with solid performances which have made us stronger defensively. Granted some games he hasn't been great, but his mistakes haven't cost us as much as others. Tom was rightly replaced as his performances weren't up to par and his confidence was shot, and the fans were rightly getting on his back because of him constantly passing back.
I would 100% stick with Smith for the rest of the season, and let Tom reset and wait for his opportunity next year. Right now we need consistency, and Michael has shown that he can fire up the back four after a shoddy performance against QPR.
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Post by Clem Fandango on Feb 24, 2020 18:28:52 GMT
Hopefully MON is telling and coaching him to do on what he needs to do to get back into the side (as I hope he is with all young players in and around the squad).
Edwards is a talented player with a cracking cross and for whatever reason he’s not kicked on and maybe even regressed a bit.
It would be good though if we’ve finally got a manage who knows how to develop younger players as we’ve been lacking on for a very long time.
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Post by CBUFAWKIPWH on Feb 24, 2020 18:41:34 GMT
Tom Edwards has NEVER put in a performance as inept as Smith's at QPR last week and that's a fact. Ineptness without consequences. There were consequences. O'Neil kept faith with Smith (and the rest of the defence) and we won. O'Neil was right, you were wrong. Get over it.
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Post by sheikhmomo on Feb 24, 2020 18:55:29 GMT
Tom Edwards has NEVER put in a performance as inept as Smith's at QPR last week and that's a fact. Ineptness without consequences. There were consequences. O'Neil kept faith with Smith (and the rest of the defence). Genius.
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Post by adi on Feb 24, 2020 19:39:23 GMT
There were consequences. O'Neil kept faith with Smith (and the rest of the defence). Genius. It’s poor form when you’d rather ignore a win just to satisfy your own agenda.
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Post by sheikhmomo on Feb 24, 2020 19:45:04 GMT
Genius. It’s poor form when you’d rather ignore a win just to satisfy your own agenda. Who's ignoring the win? I celebrated it very well thank you. It's stunning how quickly people are prepared to forget last weeks Smith's shameful clusterfuck, dissected excellently on twitter and yet still seem to remember every kick of Edwards from months ago. Agendas eh?
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Post by davejohnno1 on Feb 24, 2020 19:46:30 GMT
Going back to Edwards in a more serious fashion than the ridiculous assertions that anyone posts with an agenda, I think O'Neil places a great emphasis on attitudes and application in training. He referenced it negatively with Badou and Etebo and he has referenced it positively at various points with Campbell, Thompson, Mclean, Cousins and about the group more generally in terms of their reaction to certain results/performances.
If Tom Edwards isn't applying himself in training or in terms of his way of living and subsequent application, I think O'Neil will seriously frown upon this and his days will be numbered here. If, on the other hand, he applies himself properly and shows the same willingness to learn as others have clearly done, then I expect he will get his chance in due course at which point it will be up to him to grab it.
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Post by adi on Feb 24, 2020 19:50:03 GMT
It’s poor form when you’d rather ignore a win just to satisfy your own agenda. Who's ignoring the win? I celebrated it very well thank you. It's stunning how quickly people are prepared to forget last weeks Smith's shameful clusterfuck, dissected excellently on twitter and yet still seem to remember every kick of Edwards from months ago. Agendas eh? Yup
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Post by sheikhmomo on Feb 24, 2020 19:55:44 GMT
Who's ignoring the win? I celebrated it very well thank you. It's stunning how quickly people are prepared to forget last weeks Smith's shameful clusterfuck, dissected excellently on twitter and yet still seem to remember every kick of Edwards from months ago. Agendas eh? Yup The young player hating, Smith fan boys are certainly selective in what they see aren't they?
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Post by adi on Feb 24, 2020 19:57:27 GMT
The young player hating, Smith fan boys are certainly selective in what they see aren't they? Sure
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Post by sheikhmomo on Feb 24, 2020 20:00:21 GMT
The young player hating, Smith fan boys are certainly selective in what they see aren't they? Sure Just for you sugar
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Post by adi on Feb 24, 2020 20:13:42 GMT
Got any for the games Edwards player in just for parity? Also don’t call me sugar 👍
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Post by terryconroysmagic on Feb 24, 2020 20:17:33 GMT
Got any for the games Edwards player in just for parity? Also don’t call me sugar 👍 Maybe you could be my Sugar Adi 😆
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Post by adi on Feb 24, 2020 20:18:51 GMT
Got any for the games Edwards player in just for parity? Also don’t call me sugar 👍 Maybe you could be my Sugar Adi 😆 I’ve nothing against homosexuality but it just doesn’t float my boat. Don’t want him getting carried away.
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Post by terryconroysmagic on Feb 24, 2020 20:25:51 GMT
Maybe you could be my Sugar Adi 😆 I’ve nothing against homosexuality but it just doesn’t float my boat. Don’t want him getting carried away. Didn’t realise he was and don’t care one way or the other, I was just trying to lighten the mood. Maybe time for a truce. I think Smith has done ok, a couple of shockers but which player hasn’t. For me MON deserves great credit for turning the complete shambles around and if Edwards is a casualty of that then so be it. I’d prefer Collins playing but if we keeping getting results I’ll have to accept that he’ll have to bide his time just like Edwards
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Post by sheikhmomo on Feb 24, 2020 20:33:13 GMT
Maybe you could be my Sugar Adi 😆 I’ve nothing against homosexuality but it just doesn’t float my boat. Don’t want him getting carried away. Someone calls you sugar and that means they want to take you up the Gary Glitter? How strange!
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Post by adi on Feb 24, 2020 20:33:14 GMT
I’ve nothing against homosexuality but it just doesn’t float my boat. Don’t want him getting carried away. Didn’t realise he was and don’t care one way or the other, I was just trying to lighten the mood. Maybe time for a truce. I think Smith has done ok, a couple of shockers but which player hasn’t. For me MON deserves great credit for turning the complete shambles around and if Edwards is a casualty of that then so be it. I’d prefer Collins playing but if we keeping getting results I’ll have to accept that he’ll have to bide his time just like Edwards I’m only joking at a feeble attempt at patronisation. Thing is Edwards has been very poor and O’Neill has quite rightly dropped him. The professional football manager who has turned us right around made that decision and I happen to agree with him and not a faceless profile on a forum. 😊😊
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Post by Fred Merger on Feb 24, 2020 20:38:36 GMT
They'll be setting on at Alton Towers next month!
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Post by adi on Feb 24, 2020 20:47:51 GMT
They'll be setting on at Alton Towers next month! I don’t think Edwards is quite Alton Towers level yet!
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Post by sheikhmomo on Feb 24, 2020 20:50:25 GMT
I'd get Smith on the litter team at The Towers. He'd follow a crisp packet blowing in the wind on the pitch so he sounds ideal.
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Post by Fred Merger on Feb 24, 2020 20:52:34 GMT
I'd put him on Oblivion as that's where he's heading!
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Post by FranktheRabbit on Feb 24, 2020 22:46:52 GMT
I'll fetch some popcorn... 🤣🤣
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Post by FranktheRabbit on Feb 24, 2020 23:04:29 GMT
Tom Edwards has NEVER put in a performance as inept as Smith's at QPR last week and that's a fact. Ineptness without consequences. He definitely has, Middlesbrough at home. Please watch it Sheikh, he was pathetically bad. Like it was actually embarrassing. Worse than any performance Smith has ever put in. Even QPR, but the whole back line were diabolical. I really haven’t got it in for Edwards, he’s a good player at his best, and a couple of seasons ago, he would of been my choice, MON and a lot of other people’s first choice. I just can’t see the sense in why you would think Edwards is the better option currently, based on form. He just isn’t and I think your in a very small minority that think he is. It’s almost like you just don’t like Smith, for whatever reason, and that’s the basis for your argument. I apologise if I’m wrong but I don’t think I’ve ever seen you admit he’s had a good game, and if so I’m sure there is a “but” in there somewhere, yet when he has a bad one, your the first to jump on her and slate him. I just don’t get what your argument is. We get you like Edwards, he’s local, young, blah blah, we all want him to do well. But you can’t answer one simple question. Why you think an out of form player would/should be chosen over an in form player? I don’t see the logic.
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Post by sheikhmomo on Feb 24, 2020 23:20:38 GMT
Tom Edwards has NEVER put in a performance as inept as Smith's at QPR last week and that's a fact. Ineptness without consequences. He definitely has, Middlesbrough at home. Please watch it Sheikh, he was pathetically bad. Like it was actually embarrassing. Worse than any performance Smith has ever put in. Even QPR, but the whole back line were diabolical. I really haven’t got it in for Edwards, he’s a good player at his best, and a couple of seasons ago, he would of been my choice, MON and a lot of other people’s first choice. I just can’t see the sense in why you would think Edwards is the better option currently, based on form. He just isn’t and I think your in a very small minority that think he is. It’s almost like you just don’t like Smith, for whatever reason, and that’s the basis for your argument. I apologise if I’m wrong but I don’t think I’ve ever seen you admit he’s had a good game, and if so I’m sure there is a “but” in there somewhere, yet when he has a bad one, your the first to jump on her and slate him. I just don’t get what your argument is. We get you like Edwards, he’s local, young, blah blah, we all want him to do well. But you can’t answer one simple question. Why you think an out of form player would/should be chosen over an in form player? I don’t see the logic. Smith has been directly at fault or a major part of at least five goals since he came into the side and people just willingly turn a blind eye to it. He was an utter embarrassment last week. He was very good against Swansea particularly in the second half and I said as much. Other than that he has flirted between being bang average to being full on toss.
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Post by FranktheRabbit on Feb 24, 2020 23:28:59 GMT
He definitely has, Middlesbrough at home. Please watch it Sheikh, he was pathetically bad. Like it was actually embarrassing. Worse than any performance Smith has ever put in. Even QPR, but the whole back line were diabolical. I really haven’t got it in for Edwards, he’s a good player at his best, and a couple of seasons ago, he would of been my choice, MON and a lot of other people’s first choice. I just can’t see the sense in why you would think Edwards is the better option currently, based on form. He just isn’t and I think your in a very small minority that think he is. It’s almost like you just don’t like Smith, for whatever reason, and that’s the basis for your argument. I apologise if I’m wrong but I don’t think I’ve ever seen you admit he’s had a good game, and if so I’m sure there is a “but” in there somewhere, yet when he has a bad one, your the first to jump on her and slate him. I just don’t get what your argument is. We get you like Edwards, he’s local, young, blah blah, we all want him to do well. But you can’t answer one simple question. Why you think an out of form player would/should be chosen over an in form player? I don’t see the logic. Smith has been directly at fault or a major part of at least five goals since he came into the side and people just willingly turn a blind eye to it. He was an utter embarrassment last week. He was very good against Swansea particularly in the second half and I said as much. Other than that he has flirted between being bang average to being full on toss. Have to agree to disagree on this one.
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Post by theteacher on Feb 24, 2020 23:41:58 GMT
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Post by bayernoatcake on Feb 24, 2020 23:44:39 GMT
He’s way better than Smith. Should be playing.
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