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Campbell
Oct 2, 2020 14:45:55 GMT
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Post by lordb on Oct 2, 2020 14:45:55 GMT
As I understand it the window on the 5th is for overseas signings?. The domestic window is open a little longer I believe?. But not for Premier League clubs?
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Post by FullerMagic on Oct 2, 2020 14:54:27 GMT
As I understand it the window on the 5th is for overseas signings?. The domestic window is open a little longer I believe?. But not for Premier League clubs? Looks like Prem clubs will still be able to buy from EFL clubs between 5th-16th - but not from abroad or from rival Prem clubs. www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2020/10/02/transfer-deadline-day-2020-when-date-close-time-clubs-deals/Transfer deadline day is on Monday October 5. However, to give clubs more time in the age of coronavirus, they will be able to do domestic transfers up until October 16. This will be for loans or permanent transfers between Premier League and EFL clubs. No transfers can take place between Premier League clubs or with foreign clubs in this additional period.
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Campbell
Oct 2, 2020 14:59:09 GMT
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Post by thehoof on Oct 2, 2020 14:59:09 GMT
Who are the guaranteed goals getters in the team then Jesus? Get off his back, you are as bad as Bayern and his loathing of Davis. Where did I say we had a guaranteed goalscorer ? Quote me Is what we're lacking not on his back, just pointing out what s clear to see. He needs to improve in a few areas, our own manager has even said that. Is he on his back? Have a look at your last 20 or so posts and see what the common thread is- Campbell, and very rarely is there anything but grudging complementary. Despite nearly everyone else finding something positive to say about his performance, you find that he is the only one who you find to complain about. Don’t try and make out you are trying to offer constructive advice- you simply criticise him. Read your own posts and then you can tell us all where you are offering anything positive.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 2, 2020 16:29:56 GMT
Obviously promising talent and great potential are phrases that confuse you. Seems most things do
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Oct 2, 2020 16:46:33 GMT
Where did I say we had a guaranteed goalscorer ? Quote me Is what we're lacking not on his back, just pointing out what s clear to see. He needs to improve in a few areas, our own manager has even said that. Is he on his back? Have a look at your last 20 or so posts and see what the common thread is- Campbell, and very rarely is there anything but grudging complementary. Despite nearly everyone else finding something positive to say about his performance, you find that he is the only one who you find to complain about. Don’t try and make out you are trying to offer constructive advice- you simply criticise him. Read your own posts and then you can tell us all where you are offering anything positive. He’s saying what I’ve been saying. The lad has bags of potential but at the minute that’s what it is. People saying he’s going to score 20 odd goals this season are wildly optimistic. He has a lot to improve, he is the most natural finisher but he needs to improve his all round game. I don’t think it’s criticism its being realistic.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 2, 2020 16:50:00 GMT
Have a look at your last 20 or so posts and see what the common thread is- Campbell, and very rarely is there anything but grudging complementary. Despite nearly everyone else finding something positive to say about his performance, you find that he is the only one who you find to complain about. Don’t try and make out you are trying to offer constructive advice- you simply criticise him. Read your own posts and then you can tell us all where you are offering anything positive. He’s saying what I’ve been saying. The lad has bags of potential but at the minute that’s what it is. People saying he’s going to score 20 odd goals this season are wildly optimistic. He has a lot to improve, he is the most natural finisher but he needs to improve his all round game. I don’t think it’s criticism its being realistic. Don't go ruining things and referring to things I actually said that were clear as day to everyone else who read them it seems and anyone that watches the lad....even our own manager agrees which is just craziness.
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Post by GreaterGlasgowstokie on Oct 4, 2020 9:47:42 GMT
Campbell and Powell, the two players who turned our season sound least term and saved us from relegation, both getting criticised on here. I don't get it
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Campbell
Oct 4, 2020 9:49:20 GMT
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Post by bayernoatcake on Oct 4, 2020 9:49:20 GMT
Campbell and Powell, the two players who turned our season sound least term and saved us from relegation, both getting criticised on here. I don't get it Typical Stoke fans isn’t it?
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Post by mickstupp on Oct 4, 2020 9:54:36 GMT
Campbell and Powell, the two players who turned our season sound least term and saved us from relegation, both getting criticised on here. I don't get it Typical Stoke fans isn’t it? It’s not “typical Stoke fans” at all. It’s fans discussing two players who haven’t played particularly well this season. It’s debate on a fans forum with differing opinions. You will have your say later when, for example, we concede a goal and you will in turn blame Davies and Chester with your pre conceived critique.
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Campbell
Oct 4, 2020 9:58:04 GMT
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Post by bayernoatcake on Oct 4, 2020 9:58:04 GMT
Typical Stoke fans isn’t it? It’s not “typical Stoke fans” at all. It’s fans discussing two players who haven’t played particularly well this season. It’s debate on a fans forum with differing opinions. You will have your say later when, for example, we concede a goal and you will in turn blame Davies and Chester with your pre conceived critique. The stuff on the Powell thread is worse than this. Is made up nonsense. Short memories and a lack of understanding go a long way. I haven’t blamed Davies for much actually. He was dodgy for the first Bristol City goal but that’s about it. Chester is just awful. And most people can see that it seems.
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Campbell
Oct 4, 2020 10:01:54 GMT
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Post by Stoke711 on Oct 4, 2020 10:01:54 GMT
Campbell and Powell, the two players who turned our season sound least term and saved us from relegation, both getting criticised on here. I don't get it Campbell is the best finisher we have at the club. Strikers need to play regularly. Cant keep chopping and changing them expecting them to score. We need a settled side and build good chemistry. I'd love to see both Campbell and Brown to start up top, with their pace and movement they will create so much space for the likes of Powell to run in behind as defenders will get pulled out to the channels more and also will then need to get help from full backs, leaving our wing backs with room to burst into.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 4, 2020 10:18:33 GMT
It’s not “typical Stoke fans” at all. It’s fans discussing two players who haven’t played particularly well this season. It’s debate on a fans forum with differing opinions. You will have your say later when, for example, we concede a goal and you will in turn blame Davies and Chester with your pre conceived critique. The stuff on the Powell thread is worse than this. Is made up nonsense. Short memories and a lack of understanding go a long way. I haven’t blamed Davies for much actually. He was dodgy for the first Bristol City goal but that’s about it. Chester is just awful. And most people can see that it seems. Powell is not without his faults. His temperament let’s him down at times, and for a player of his ability some of his passing hasn’t been as accurate as it should have been at times. It’s not harsh to say that, TOB on his coat tails will hopefully up his performances by 10%.....
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Campbell
Oct 4, 2020 10:22:33 GMT
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Post by bayernoatcake on Oct 4, 2020 10:22:33 GMT
The stuff on the Powell thread is worse than this. Is made up nonsense. Short memories and a lack of understanding go a long way. I haven’t blamed Davies for much actually. He was dodgy for the first Bristol City goal but that’s about it. Chester is just awful. And most people can see that it seems. Powell is not without his faults. His temperament let’s him down at times, and for a player of his ability some of his passing hasn’t been as accurate as it should have been at times. It’s not harsh to say that, TOB on his coat tails will hopefully up his performances by 10%..... No it’s the stuff about his work rate, attitude and throwing himself the floor that is just mind boggingly stupid and totally made up. I don’t think TOB long term should be a contender for Powell’s place. I want TOB deeper controlling the game. It’s what he’s better I think.
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Campbell
Oct 4, 2020 10:36:03 GMT
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Post by mickstupp on Oct 4, 2020 10:36:03 GMT
It’s not “typical Stoke fans” at all. It’s fans discussing two players who haven’t played particularly well this season. It’s debate on a fans forum with differing opinions. You will have your say later when, for example, we concede a goal and you will in turn blame Davies and Chester with your pre conceived critique. The stuff on the Powell thread is worse than this. Is made up nonsense. Short memories and a lack of understanding go a long way. I haven’t blamed Davies for much actually. He was dodgy for the first Bristol City goal but that’s about it. Chester is just awful. And most people can see that it seems. Laughable comments re. Davies, who you have slated and written off time after time on here after making your mind up on him on the flimsy evidence of a you tube montage. Chester has been fine. You will blame him if we concede today if it’s his fault or not. Your mind has already been made up and I find that incredibly irrational.
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Campbell
Oct 4, 2020 10:37:05 GMT
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Post by mickstupp on Oct 4, 2020 10:37:05 GMT
The stuff on the Powell thread is worse than this. Is made up nonsense. Short memories and a lack of understanding go a long way. I haven’t blamed Davies for much actually. He was dodgy for the first Bristol City goal but that’s about it. Chester is just awful. And most people can see that it seems. Powell is not without his faults. His temperament let’s him down at times, and for a player of his ability some of his passing hasn’t been as accurate as it should have been at times. It’s not harsh to say that, TOB on his coat tails will hopefully up his performances by 10%..... Correct. He’s a good player who has played poorly this season, and after lockdown truth be told.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 4, 2020 10:38:55 GMT
Powell is not without his faults. His temperament let’s him down at times, and for a player of his ability some of his passing hasn’t been as accurate as it should have been at times. It’s not harsh to say that, TOB on his coat tails will hopefully up his performances by 10%..... No it’s the stuff about his work rate, attitude and throwing himself the floor that is just mind boggingly stupid and totally made up. I don’t think TOB long term should be a contender for Powell’s place. I want TOB deeper controlling the game. It’s what he’s better I think. I have absolutely no issue with his work rate, his "attitude" against Middlesbrough when he was petulantly sent off wasn't great but in general again I have no issue with it...
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Campbell
Oct 4, 2020 10:39:46 GMT
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Post by bayernoatcake on Oct 4, 2020 10:39:46 GMT
The stuff on the Powell thread is worse than this. Is made up nonsense. Short memories and a lack of understanding go a long way. I haven’t blamed Davies for much actually. He was dodgy for the first Bristol City goal but that’s about it. Chester is just awful. And most people can see that it seems. Laughable comments re. Davies, who you have slated and written off time after time on here after making your mind up on him on the flimsy evidence of a you tube montage. Chester has been fine. You will blame him if we concede today if it’s his fault or not. Your mind has already been made up and I find that incredibly irrational. You said I blame him for stuff which is just nonsense. No he hasn’t. He can’t run, head or pass. He’s about the worst centre back we’ve had in a decade and what makes him worst is he’s stopping better younger players getting a game. And he’s probably the reason we’ve gone with such negative tactics.
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Campbell
Oct 4, 2020 10:40:16 GMT
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Post by bayernoatcake on Oct 4, 2020 10:40:16 GMT
No it’s the stuff about his work rate, attitude and throwing himself the floor that is just mind boggingly stupid and totally made up. I don’t think TOB long term should be a contender for Powell’s place. I want TOB deeper controlling the game. It’s what he’s better I think. I have absolutely no issue with his work rate, his "attitude" against Middlesbrough when he was petulantly sent off wasn't great but in general again I have no issue with it... Erm good.
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Campbell
Oct 4, 2020 10:40:40 GMT
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Post by a on Oct 4, 2020 10:40:40 GMT
Powell is not without his faults. His temperament let’s him down at times, and for a player of his ability some of his passing hasn’t been as accurate as it should have been at times. It’s not harsh to say that, TOB on his coat tails will hopefully up his performances by 10%..... No it’s the stuff about his work rate, attitude and throwing himself the floor that is just mind boggingly stupid and totally made up. I don’t think TOB long term should be a contender for Powell’s place. I want TOB deeper controlling the game. It’s what he’s better I think. What are his limitations then?
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Campbell
Oct 4, 2020 10:41:44 GMT
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Post by bayernoatcake on Oct 4, 2020 10:41:44 GMT
No it’s the stuff about his work rate, attitude and throwing himself the floor that is just mind boggingly stupid and totally made up. I don’t think TOB long term should be a contender for Powell’s place. I want TOB deeper controlling the game. It’s what he’s better I think. What are his limitations then? Who?
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Campbell
Oct 4, 2020 10:42:25 GMT
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Post by mickstupp on Oct 4, 2020 10:42:25 GMT
Laughable comments re. Davies, who you have slated and written off time after time on here after making your mind up on him on the flimsy evidence of a you tube montage. Chester has been fine. You will blame him if we concede today if it’s his fault or not. Your mind has already been made up and I find that incredibly irrational. You said I blame him for stuff which is just nonsense. No he hasn’t. He can’t run, head or pass. He’s about the worst centre back we’ve had in a decade and what makes him worst is he’s stopping better younger players getting a game. And he’s probably the reason we’ve gone with such negative tactics. He’s barely conceded a goal so you haven’t had the chance...yet.
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Post by GeneralFaye on Oct 4, 2020 10:44:10 GMT
Campbell and Powell, the two players who turned our season sound least term and saved us from relegation, both getting criticised on here. I don't get it So are they forever above criticism?.. I like both players, I've been a long term advocate of playing Campbell for example but I'm not going to be put into a position where I feel like I can't criticise a performance just because they played well last season. I don't see the sense in that.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 4, 2020 10:44:29 GMT
Laughable comments re. Davies, who you have slated and written off time after time on here after making your mind up on him on the flimsy evidence of a you tube montage. Chester has been fine. You will blame him if we concede today if it’s his fault or not. Your mind has already been made up and I find that incredibly irrational. You said I blame him for stuff which is just nonsense. No he hasn’t. He can’t run, head or pass. He’s about the worst centre back we’ve had in a decade and what makes him worst is he’s stopping better younger players getting a game. And he’s probably the reason we’ve gone with such negative tactics. Since the Leeds debacle Chester has started 8 games and we've conceded 4 goals. I personally wouldn't have signed him but it's just more hyperbole.......
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Campbell
Oct 4, 2020 10:44:42 GMT
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Post by a on Oct 4, 2020 10:44:42 GMT
What are his limitations then? Who? Powell
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Campbell
Oct 4, 2020 10:44:51 GMT
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Post by bayernoatcake on Oct 4, 2020 10:44:51 GMT
You said I blame him for stuff which is just nonsense. No he hasn’t. He can’t run, head or pass. He’s about the worst centre back we’ve had in a decade and what makes him worst is he’s stopping better younger players getting a game. And he’s probably the reason we’ve gone with such negative tactics. He’s barely conceded a goal so you haven’t had the chance...yet. So why lie and make stuff up then you idiot 😂🤦♂️
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Campbell
Oct 4, 2020 10:45:10 GMT
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Post by bayernoatcake on Oct 4, 2020 10:45:10 GMT
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Campbell
Oct 4, 2020 10:46:27 GMT
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Post by bayernoatcake on Oct 4, 2020 10:46:27 GMT
You said I blame him for stuff which is just nonsense. No he hasn’t. He can’t run, head or pass. He’s about the worst centre back we’ve had in a decade and what makes him worst is he’s stopping better younger players getting a game. And he’s probably the reason we’ve gone with such negative tactics. Since the Leeds debacle Chester has started 8 games and we've conceded 4 goals. I personally wouldn't have signed him but it's just more hyperbole....... He’s still looked like a crap defender. The bloke can’t win headers. And indeed we look like a much better team when he’s out of it. And also with how negative we’ve been we should be keeping clean sheets.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 4, 2020 10:48:17 GMT
Campbell and Powell, the two players who turned our season sound least term and saved us from relegation, both getting criticised on here. I don't get it So are they forever above criticism?.. I like both players, I've been a long term advocate of playing Campbell for example but I'm not going to be put into a position where I feel like I can't criticise a performance just because they played well last season. I don't see the sense in that. Exactly no one should be above constructive criticism. I've highlighted Campbell's desire and work rate on occasions (not tracking back but pressing defenders and making forward runs with more intensity) and I think Powell's passing has been sloppy for a player of his ability.......
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Post by Deleted on Oct 4, 2020 10:50:54 GMT
It's a cop out to hide behind a formation. It's a factor but it doesn't give a player a free ride, he didn't have a 68% pass success rate because we played a 3-5-2 he had it because his passing was way below hat he's capable of.....
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Campbell
Oct 4, 2020 10:52:12 GMT
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Post by GeneralFaye on Oct 4, 2020 10:52:12 GMT
So are they forever above criticism?.. I like both players, I've been a long term advocate of playing Campbell for example but I'm not going to be put into a position where I feel like I can't criticise a performance just because they played well last season. I don't see the sense in that. Exactly no one should be above constructive criticism. I've highlighted Campbell's desire and work rate on occasions (not tracking back but pressing defenders and making forward runs with more intensity) and I think Powell's passing has been sloppy for a player of his ability....... I was more concerned with what Campbell was doing with the ball at his feet tbh. He had 4 or 5 good 1v1 scenarios in the first half on Thursday and just looked like he was lacking confidence and picking the wrong option. As for Powell, he looked threatening and was very unlucky not to score but like you say, he gives the ball away an awful lot and I wouldn't mind if it was trying a difficult pass but he does it by picking the wrong option a lot of the time. It's a frustration I have with him but I'm not suggesting he gets dropped yet. His work rate has always been excellent imo.
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