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Post by maninasuitcase on Jan 12, 2020 14:49:03 GMT
With all the new stadiums springing up, i wonder why clubs haven't adopted a more American approach and build indoor stadia.
Given our countries inconsistent weather and wanting to have the ultimate fan experience its strange that no one has looked at doing this.
I can only think of the millennium stadium and ajax arena that have the capability of being indoor arenas.
I guess cost is the major factor, but they could be used for other things like concerts and conventions.
I remember years ago Luton were looking to move to a ground dubbed the Kohler Dome but it never materialised.
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Post by madnellie on Jan 12, 2020 14:53:28 GMT
The Parken in Copenhagen also has a retractable roof.
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Post by dutchstokie on Jan 13, 2020 10:49:57 GMT
With all the new stadiums springing up, i wonder why clubs haven't adopted a more American approach and build indoor stadia. Given our countries inconsistent weather and wanting to have the ultimate fan experience its strange that no one has looked at doing this. I can only think of the millennium stadium and ajax arena that have the capability of being indoor arenas. I guess cost is the major factor, but they could be used for other things like concerts and conventions. I remember years ago Luton were looking to move to a ground dubbed the Kohler Dome but it never materialised. Add to that The Gelredome in Arnhem They just wheel the pitch out and leave it in the car park whilst they do Monster Truck racing and have concerts and the like.... Saw Iron Maiden there on the Book of Souls tour a couple of years back. Really nice stadium |
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Post by walrus on Jan 13, 2020 11:22:05 GMT
I imagine it’s a cost/benefit thing.
Pretty much all competitions currently require matches to be played outdoors, so a roof would have to be retractable. This would be hugely expensive, probably too expensive to be covered by the extra revenue that could be generated from hosting indoor events.
I expect if we saw a rule change that allowed football matches to be played indoors in all competitions we’d see more clubs exploring the possibility of having permanently indoor arenas.
It’s kind of like how there are clubs at National League level who take advantage of the fact that artificial pitches are permitted to bring in revenue by renting out their pitch on non match days but the currently Prem and Football League rules make that option a non-starter for league clubs.
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Post by anchorman on Jan 13, 2020 11:31:03 GMT
With all the new stadiums springing up, i wonder why clubs haven't adopted a more American approach and build indoor stadia. Given our countries inconsistent weather and wanting to have the ultimate fan experience its strange that no one has looked at doing this. I can only think of the millennium stadium and ajax arena that have the capability of being indoor arenas. I guess cost is the major factor, but they could be used for other things like concerts and conventions. I remember years ago Luton were looking to move to a ground dubbed the Kohler Dome but it never materialised. Please see the 'Football Is Dying' thread. For me, part of the match day experience is the weather & the elements come wind, rain or shine. Most stadium's are already pretty soul less places nowadays and quite frankly. It would be like going to an indoor 5 a side tournament. I think we need to step as far away as we possibly can from anything to do with 'a more American approach' |
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Post by rawli on Jan 13, 2020 19:50:29 GMT
Wembley is the best. Best part of a billion quid and a roof that goes 3 quarters across. Genius.
Went to Seattle in the summer and their baseball stadium has a roof that goes over the actual stadium on what looked like railway tracks. Amazing engineering.
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Post by JoeinOz on Jan 14, 2020 3:53:09 GMT
Indoor stadiums are a practical notion. But if they were introduced in the UK everyone would moan about it.
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Post by rawli on Jan 14, 2020 8:03:51 GMT
Indoor stadiums are a practical notion. But if they were introduced in the UK everyone would moan about it. Come on Joe. We're so receptive to change here. |
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Post by frodekippe on Jan 14, 2020 9:02:32 GMT
Wembley is the best. Best part of a billion quid and a roof that goes 3 quarters across. Genius. Went to Seattle in the summer and their baseball stadium has a roof that goes over the actual stadium on what looked like railway tracks. Amazing engineering. Apologies for being a total stadium nerd but Wembley's roof doesn't do this. In its most "closed" position it just covers the stands like a typical football stadium roof. The whole South section retracts to allow more light onto the pitch, as the height of the stands massively restricted the exposure to direct sunlight. I did quite a bit of work on the stadium a few years ago to look at the possibility of adapting the roof to a fully closing structure so that they would have the benefits of a year-round indoor venue, but the costs would have been astronomical due to the, ahem, "construction standards" of the original roof structure from Multiplex. |
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Post by terrorofturfmoor on Jan 14, 2020 9:10:19 GMT
Vale could always move to "Dimensions"!!! 🤔
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Post by JoeinOz on Jan 14, 2020 12:14:23 GMT
Indoor stadiums are a practical notion. But if they were introduced in the UK everyone would moan about it. Come on Joe. We're so receptive to change here. We shouldn’t have left the Vic!! |
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Post by Pretty Little Boother on Jan 14, 2020 12:17:21 GMT
Indoor stadiums are a practical notion. But if they were introduced in the UK everyone would moan about it. I, for one, would certainly moan my clammy sack off about it. |
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Post by JoeinOz on Jan 14, 2020 12:26:28 GMT
Indoor stadiums are a practical notion. But if they were introduced in the UK everyone would moan about it. I, for one, would certainly moan my clammy sack off about it. I’m guessing you wouldn’t be the only one. 😁 |
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Post by danceswithclams on Jan 14, 2020 12:45:39 GMT
I, for one, would certainly moan my clammy sack off about it. I, for one, would certainly moan my boother sack off about it. |
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Post by adamsson on Jan 14, 2020 13:00:38 GMT
Indoor stadiums are a practical notion. But if they were introduced in the UK everyone would moan about it. I wouldn't warm dry what is wrong with that. |
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Post by PotterLog on Jan 14, 2020 14:02:53 GMT
I imagine it’s a cost/benefit thing. Pretty much all competitions currently require matches to be played outdoors, so a roof would have to be retractable. Can you expand on what you mean here? Plenty football matches have been played under a roof (including the FA Cup and Champions League finals) |
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Post by walrus on Jan 14, 2020 15:02:57 GMT
I imagine it’s a cost/benefit thing. Pretty much all competitions currently require matches to be played outdoors, so a roof would have to be retractable. Can you expand on what you mean here? Plenty football matches have been played under a roof (including the FA Cup and Champions League finals) To be honest I think I was wrong. I was under the impression Premier League and Football League rules required games to be played outdoors but a quick Google suggests that’s not the case. What they do stipulate is that artificial pitches are not allowed. For the vast majority of clubs this is functionally the same as saying games must be played outdoors as a grass pitch could not thrive indoors and a retractable roof is beyond the financial means of all but the very richest clubs. |
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Post by nott1 on Jan 14, 2020 16:34:12 GMT
Can you expand on what you mean here? Plenty football matches have been played under a roof (including the FA Cup and Champions League finals) To be honest I think I was wrong. I was under the impression Premier League and Football League rules required games to be played outdoors but a quick Google suggests that’s not the case. What they do stipulate is that artificial pitches are not allowed. For the vast majority of clubs this is functionally the same as saying games must be played outdoors as a grass pitch could not thrive indoors and a retractable roof is beyond the financial means of all but the very richest clubs. The current pitches in the Premier League are all partly artificial now, they call them hybrid and only part of them is real grass! |
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Post by rawli on Jan 14, 2020 17:13:10 GMT
Wembley is the best. Best part of a billion quid and a roof that goes 3 quarters across. Genius. Went to Seattle in the summer and their baseball stadium has a roof that goes over the actual stadium on what looked like railway tracks. Amazing engineering. Apologies for being a total stadium nerd but Wembley's roof doesn't do this. In its most "closed" position it just covers the stands like a typical football stadium roof. The whole South section retracts to allow more light onto the pitch, as the height of the stands massively restricted the exposure to direct sunlight. I did quite a bit of work on the stadium a few years ago to look at the possibility of adapting the roof to a fully closing structure so that they would have the benefits of a year-round indoor venue, but the costs would have been astronomical due to the, ahem, "construction standards" of the original roof structure from Multiplex. Ah right. I knew they'd bollocksed it up somehow! |
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Post by rawli on Jan 14, 2020 17:14:39 GMT
To be honest I think I was wrong. I was under the impression Premier League and Football League rules required games to be played outdoors but a quick Google suggests that’s not the case. What they do stipulate is that artificial pitches are not allowed. For the vast majority of clubs this is functionally the same as saying games must be played outdoors as a grass pitch could not thrive indoors and a retractable roof is beyond the financial means of all but the very richest clubs. The current pitches in the Premier League are all partly artificial now, they call them hybrid and only part of them is real grass! Including ours. Wonder what our home record has been since it was installed. |
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Post by nott1 on Jan 14, 2020 17:41:08 GMT
The current pitches in the Premier League are all partly artificial now, they call them hybrid and only part of them is real grass! Including ours. Wonder what our home record has been since it was installed. Nowt to do with the pitch I doubt (except the width and Rory). |
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Post by rawli on Jan 14, 2020 17:55:43 GMT
Including ours. Wonder what our home record has been since it was installed. Nowt to do with the pitch I doubt (except the width and Rory). Macron's or the new corner then? |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 14, 2020 18:18:36 GMT
Indoor stadiums are a practical notion. But if they were introduced in the UK everyone would moan about it. I, for one, would certainly moan my clammy sack off about it. Standing on the Vic terraces, wrapped up like a Michelin man, stamping your feet to get the circulation going, was somehow all part of the experience. We even wore GLOVES!
The BET365 is even colder! It's the "sitting" bit that makes it harder to bear.
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Post by hyaduck on Jan 14, 2020 23:16:46 GMT
Northwood stadium is indoor
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Post by mrteddysalad on Jan 14, 2020 23:56:47 GMT
Retractable roofs make sense in baseball because you literally can't play it in the rain and it's miserable to play in 100+ degree weather in the summer, but american football, football and rugby can all be played in shite weather so I don't understand the point of playing it indoors. Watching Racing vs Munster play indoors on Saturday was wank.
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