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Post by TinkerT on Aug 11, 2021 18:42:42 GMT
Out of the two I'd have had rabbi back.
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Post by cheadlestokie on Aug 11, 2021 18:43:31 GMT
I like him Very good footballer Don’t think he is a winger as such but could be left side of a front three He does need more drive but he also needs a cause to believe in and a good run of games
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Post by hardcastle on Aug 11, 2021 18:50:51 GMT
The only way you could fit him into the 352 system would be in place of Powell or Vranic (no way we'd play him as wing-back like we did with lnce last night). So it's a no from me.
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Post by terryconroysmagic on Aug 11, 2021 19:00:02 GMT
He's not my cup of tea. Looked neat and tidy but lacked penetration! Bit like yourself so Jimmy according to your missus 🤣
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Aug 11, 2021 19:03:42 GMT
A young Tom Ince. Tom Ince as he is now I mean before someone pipes on about his record at wherever
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Post by bayernoatcake on Aug 11, 2021 20:55:38 GMT
Spurs paid 13m for him?!?!
Jesus wept.
He’s a tidy footballer but ain’t a winger and needs to have a loan where he will play a lot.
He’s failed at every loan he’s been on so far.
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Post by lordb on Aug 11, 2021 21:18:16 GMT
The only way you could fit him into the 352 system would be in place of Powell or Vranic (no way we'd play him as wing-back like we did with lnce last night). So it's a no from me. Can see that but having a right winger (I see a few posters don't see him as a winger but that's a different argument) gives the manager the option of having two systems to use.
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Post by Gods on Aug 11, 2021 21:19:13 GMT
The arrival of all the January loan signings coincided with us turning to shit in the 2nd half of the season.
It may have been coincidence but unfortunately they are inextricably linked to our 2nd half of the season meltdown.
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Post by lordb on Aug 11, 2021 21:19:13 GMT
Spurs paid 13m for him?!?! Jesus wept. He’s a tidy footballer but ain’t a winger and needs to have a loan where he will play a lot. He’s failed at every loan he’s been on so far. Apart from at Stoke
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Post by bayernoatcake on Aug 11, 2021 21:21:36 GMT
Spurs paid 13m for him?!?! Jesus wept. He’s a tidy footballer but ain’t a winger and needs to have a loan where he will play a lot. He’s failed at every loan he’s been on so far. Apart from at Stoke He did nothing. We were woeful when he was here. He didn’t change that. He made a few runs and did sod all and then got injured. If his name Badou he’d be a useless injury prone waster 😂 Now I don’t think he is. But he’s just a younger version of that group of players for us. His loan with us in no way can be labelled a success.
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Post by lordb on Aug 11, 2021 21:28:41 GMT
He did nothing. We were woeful when he was here. He didn’t change that. He made a few runs and did sod all and then got injured. If his name Badou he’d be a useless injury prone waster 😂 Now I don’t think he is. But he’s just a younger version of that group of players for us. His loan with us in no way can be labelled a success. He wasn't very good once he was injured, I'll agree with that bit. I just like wingers, players who can control the ball ( he can), take his man on both outside and inside ( he did) and put good crosses in (he did) He was unlucky in that he put in two great assists for Fletcher who sadly was offside both times (Fletcher's big fault in his game) Not sure he's much of a goal threat, he needs to work on that Just have to agree to disagree If we don't sign Clarke we ought to sign a right winger, ideally one who can double up at RWB (wouldn't suggest Clarke can do that) or make do with Ince and his astonishing lack of output.
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Post by barrythe on Aug 11, 2021 21:31:59 GMT
I rate him get him on the right side. He'll play better with the better footballers we will now have around him.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Aug 11, 2021 21:35:09 GMT
He did nothing. We were woeful when he was here. He didn’t change that. He made a few runs and did sod all and then got injured. If his name Badou he’d be a useless injury prone waster 😂 Now I don’t think he is. But he’s just a younger version of that group of players for us. His loan with us in no way can be labelled a success. He wasn't very good once he was injured, I'll agree with that bit. I just like wingers, players who can control the ball ( he can), take his man on both outside and inside ( he did) and put good crosses in (he did) He was unlucky in that he put in two great assists for Fletcher who sadly was offside both times (Fletcher's big fault in his game) Not sure he's much of a goal threat, he needs to work on that Just have to agree to disagree If we don't sign Clarke we ought to sign a right winger, ideally one who can double up at RWB (wouldn't suggest Clarke can do that) or make do with Ince and his astonishing lack of output. I disagree with the take his man and cross bit sorry. It just didn’t happen. His passing and moving was good. But the loan overall was a complete failure.
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Post by Mr Ron Agent on Aug 11, 2021 21:48:37 GMT
He wasn't very good once he was injured, I'll agree with that bit. I just like wingers, players who can control the ball ( he can), take his man on both outside and inside ( he did) and put good crosses in (he did) He was unlucky in that he put in two great assists for Fletcher who sadly was offside both times (Fletcher's big fault in his game) Not sure he's much of a goal threat, he needs to work on that Just have to agree to disagree If we don't sign Clarke we ought to sign a right winger, ideally one who can double up at RWB (wouldn't suggest Clarke can do that) or make do with Ince and his astonishing lack of output. I disagree with the take his man and cross bit sorry. It just didn’t happen. His passing and moving was good. But the loan overall was a complete failure. This is a good summary. In all honesty he was pretty ineffective and we would have been better off playing Ince.
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Post by werrington on Aug 12, 2021 5:50:46 GMT
Spurs paid 13m for him?!?! Jesus wept. He’s a tidy footballer but ain’t a winger and needs to have a loan where he will play a lot. He’s failed at every loan he’s been on so far. Has he? His loan at ( I think ) QPR was cut short by covid so he’s only been here which he did well in
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Post by GeneralFaye on Aug 12, 2021 5:54:15 GMT
Spurs paid 13m for him?!?! Jesus wept. He’s a tidy footballer but ain’t a winger and needs to have a loan where he will play a lot. He’s failed at every loan he’s been on so far. Has he? His loan at ( I think ) QPR was cut short by covid so he’s only been here which he did well in He went back to Leeds on loan too and did fuck all, if I remember correctly.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Aug 12, 2021 7:13:51 GMT
Spurs paid 13m for him?!?! Jesus wept. He’s a tidy footballer but ain’t a winger and needs to have a loan where he will play a lot. He’s failed at every loan he’s been on so far. Has he? His loan at ( I think ) QPR was cut short by covid so he’s only been here which he did well in How is a single figure amount of games where he didn’t do anything and then got injured and the team progressively got worse despite him and Matondo coming in to make the shortfall up in attacking areas mean he had a good loan here? Yes he’s clearly a decent footballer but like Matondo he had no impact for us. That’s a failure for a loan.
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Post by CBUFAWKIPWH on Aug 12, 2021 7:43:37 GMT
Has he? His loan at ( I think ) QPR was cut short by covid so he’s only been here which he did well in How is a single figure amount of games where he didn’t do anything and then got injured and the team progressively got worse despite him and Matondo coming in to make the shortfall up in attacking areas mean he had a good loan here? Yes he’s clearly a decent footballer but like Matondo he had no impact for us. That’s a failure for a loan. You were expecting a couple of youngsters on loan at Xmas to save our season? Get real - it was never going to happen and to judge them on that basis is just unfair. When he played Clarke looked decent and his contribution was cut short because of injury - hardly his fault and while he "failed" in the sense of not being the messiah he certainly looked like he could do a job if given more time to fit in. Having said that I'm not convinced he'd work as a wingback in a 532. He looked good going forward but was a liability when he tracked back. So no from me - but not because his gifts as a footballer don't include gold, frankincense and myrrh.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Aug 12, 2021 7:49:31 GMT
How is a single figure amount of games where he didn’t do anything and then got injured and the team progressively got worse despite him and Matondo coming in to make the shortfall up in attacking areas mean he had a good loan here? Yes he’s clearly a decent footballer but like Matondo he had no impact for us. That’s a failure for a loan. You were expecting a couple of youngsters on loan at Xmas to save our season? Get real - it was never going to happen and to judge them on that basis is just unfair. When he played Clarke looked decent and his contribution was cut short because of injury - hardly his fault and while he "failed" in the sense of not being the messiah he certainly looked like he could do a job if given more time to fit in. Having said that I'm not convinced he'd work as a wingback in a 532. He looked good going forward but was a liability when he tracked back. So no from me - but not because his gifts as a footballer don't include gold, frankincense and myrrh. Why is it unfair? What was the point in signing them? One was a 9.6m player and one a 13m player. Why would you sign a player on loan and not expect them to make an impact? He looked decent centrally but injuries have plagued him in his career so far. This was just a continuation of that.
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Post by realstokebloke on Aug 12, 2021 8:12:23 GMT
Not bad in patches and always looked like he would burst into the baller we all thought £13m gets you ... but he never really did.
Maybe MoN thinks some continuity would bring the best out of him.
Wonder what the fee would be at Levy prices?
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Post by ChrisKamarasPerm on Aug 12, 2021 8:37:44 GMT
Looked completely light weight to me and a boy in a man's game.
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Post by chayseeoatcake on Aug 12, 2021 8:43:10 GMT
Did nothing in his 1st spell here to make me want him have a 2nd.
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Post by callas12 on Feb 22, 2022 20:00:11 GMT
Just noticed, Jack's gone to Sunderland on loan. Starting on the bench with Danny Batth this evening v Burton. He's clearly struggling to make the breakthrough as even loan spells aren't giving him much game time.
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Post by davejohnno1 on Feb 22, 2022 20:03:09 GMT
Just noticed, Jack's gone to Sunderland on loan. Starting on the bench with Danny Batth this evening v Burton. He's clearly struggling to make the breakthrough as even loan spells aren't giving him much game time. A young Tom Ince impersonator is unlikely to tear up trees at any level to be honest with you. No surprise to see Batth on the bench already. He's shite. Didn't Sunderland sign Jay Matete as well? Be interesting to see how he does.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Feb 22, 2022 20:10:23 GMT
How is a single figure amount of games where he didn’t do anything and then got injured and the team progressively got worse despite him and Matondo coming in to make the shortfall up in attacking areas mean he had a good loan here? Yes he’s clearly a decent footballer but like Matondo he had no impact for us. That’s a failure for a loan. You were expecting a couple of youngsters on loan at Xmas to save our season? Get real - it was never going to happen and to judge them on that basis is just unfair. When he played Clarke looked decent and his contribution was cut short because of injury - hardly his fault and while he "failed" in the sense of not being the messiah he certainly looked like he could do a job if given more time to fit in. Having said that I'm not convinced he'd work as a wingback in a 532. He looked good going forward but was a liability when he tracked back. So no from me - but not because his gifts as a footballer don't include gold, frankincense and myrrh. We're trying it again and by God they're making impact like they should. Thankfully the two this time are actually very good footballers.
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Post by willieeetmiout on Feb 23, 2022 1:25:21 GMT
Just noticed, Jack's gone to Sunderland on loan. Starting on the bench with Danny Batth this evening v Burton. He's clearly struggling to make the breakthrough as even loan spells aren't giving him much game time. His move to Tottenham was a terrible one for him in hindsight. Hes not a bad player but really needs a home and a run of games. I'd honestly snap him up on a free in the summer if Tottenham allowed, although I assume Levy giving away a £10m player for free would be akin to me placing my genitals in a mangle
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Post by bertiestan on Feb 23, 2022 6:35:53 GMT
Just noticed, Jack's gone to Sunderland on loan. Starting on the bench with Danny Batth this evening v Burton. He's clearly struggling to make the breakthrough as even loan spells aren't giving him much game time. His move to Tottenham was a terrible one for him in hindsight. Hes not a bad player but really needs a home and a run of games. I'd honestly snap him up on a free in the summer if Tottenham allowed, although I assume Levy giving away a £10m player for free would be akin to me placing my genitals in a mangle Daniel Levy will probably get 20 mil for him😂😂😂
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Post by J-Roar on Feb 23, 2022 7:35:14 GMT
Another young player who got a big move too early. Feel sorry for him tbh.
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