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Post by thebet365 on Jan 21, 2020 15:24:07 GMT
Oh I agree, we've been far too willing to let managers sign players instead of insisting the youth get looked at, like signing CCV on loan was just putting another block infront of Collins. Is he or is he not on charge of contracts very simple A very valuable asset has run his contest down see Nzonzi , lessons learned ? Is he or is he not in charge of picking the starting 11 ? TC left Man city because he wanted to play, I suppose that was Man City's CEO fault then ?
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Post by mickstupp on Jan 21, 2020 15:26:32 GMT
Oh I agree, we've been far too willing to let managers sign players instead of insisting the youth get looked at, like signing CCV on loan was just putting another block infront of Collins. Is he or is he not on charge of contracts very simple A very valuable asset has run his contest down see Nzonzi , lessons learned ? You can’t force players to sign contract extensions. N’Zonzi ran his contract down because he wanted to better himself and leave. He handed in a transfer request three summers running for Christ’s sake.
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on Jan 21, 2020 15:34:33 GMT
Is he or is he not on charge of contracts very simple A very valuable asset has run his contest down see Nzonzi , lessons learned ? Is he or is he not in charge of picking the starting 11 ? TC left Man city because he wanted to play, I suppose that was Man City's CEO fault then ? Man City got a very fair price for him and didn’t need him let’s see what the commercials lol Like for is If Scholes can’t control contracted assets , doesn’t own recruitment and doesn’t select managers , and cereals doesn’t control the stadium as that’s Mr Smith ,what exactly does he do for 800k a year a pure FD in a similar sized business would be on 1/8 of that
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Post by thebet365 on Jan 21, 2020 15:46:16 GMT
Is he or is he not in charge of picking the starting 11 ? TC left Man city because he wanted to play, I suppose that was Man City's CEO fault then ? Man City got a very fair price for him and didn’t need him let’s see what the commercials lol Like for is If Scholes can’t control contracted assets , doesn’t own recruitment and doesn’t select managers , and cereals doesn’t control the stadium as that’s Mr Smith ,what exactly does he do for 800k a year a pure FD in a similar sized business would be on 1/8 of that I've no idea what half of that is you're trying to say, Man city wanted to keep him and had no idea what they would get for him because it went to a tribunal, but money isn't everything to some players and TC wanted to move to a club where he would get games, something he's only just started getting here so that kind of makes it hard to negotiate a contract with him previously. As for everything else you're waffling on about, I simply was talking about the TC situation nothing else.
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Post by werrington on Jan 21, 2020 16:37:20 GMT
Sheffield United could sign him and loan him back to us on a season loan
That could potentially keep everybody happy
Stoke get a decent transfer fee, he’s still our player and Sheffield United have a fantastic investment
Just my opinion
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Post by Deleted on Jan 21, 2020 16:43:52 GMT
Sheffield United could sign him and loan him back to us on a season loan That could potentially keep everybody happy Stoke get a decent transfer fee, he’s still our player and Sheffield United have a fantastic investment Just my opinion The thing is I'm not convinced he is the finished product, I would play him to develop him into what he could become. I also think that would be somewhat humiliating for all parties.
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Post by werrington on Jan 21, 2020 16:45:37 GMT
Sheffield United could sign him and loan him back to us on a season loan That could potentially keep everybody happy Stoke get a decent transfer fee, he’s still our player and Sheffield United have a fantastic investment Just my opinion The thing is I'm not convinced he is the finished product, I would play him to develop him into what he could become. I also think that would be somewhat humiliating for all parties. One things for sure, I’ll doubt he’ll commit until he knows what division we will be playing in next season
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Post by Deleted on Jan 21, 2020 16:47:00 GMT
The thing is I'm not convinced he is the finished product, I would play him to develop him into what he could become. I also think that would be somewhat humiliating for all parties. One things for sure, I’ll doubt he’ll commit until he knows what division we will be playing in next season idk if it came down to that I think we'd put in a release clause for relegation.
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Post by FullerMagic on Jan 21, 2020 18:11:40 GMT
www.footballinsider247.com/rangers-table-new-striker-offer-ibrox-sources/Rangers have submitted a new Tyrese Campbell offer after indications he is open to a blockbuster move to Glasgow, Football Insider has learned. Ibrox sources have told Football Insider that Rangers are working to tie Campbell down to a pre-contract agreement and have offered him an improved deal in recent days.
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Post by neddy on Jan 21, 2020 18:18:20 GMT
www.footballinsider247.com/rangers-table-new-striker-offer-ibrox-sources/Rangers have submitted a new Tyrese Campbell offer after indications he is open to a blockbuster move to Glasgow, Football Insider has learned. Ibrox sources have told Football Insider that Rangers are working to tie Campbell down to a pre-contract agreement and have offered him an improved deal in recent days. Bugger!
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Post by mrteddysalad on Jan 21, 2020 18:18:57 GMT
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Post by neddy on Jan 21, 2020 18:21:11 GMT
Surely if he signs a pre contract we wouldn’t play him would we?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 21, 2020 18:25:13 GMT
It will be interesting to see what we do if he does sign a pre contract agreement. Can't see him being that motivated for a relegation battle with a 'blockbuster' move in the offing in June.
It would put us and him in an awkward position to be honest and I wouldn't be surprised to see him rock up at Glasgow in June with little to no football in his legs, and we'd be scratching around for a low money replacement.
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Post by berahinosgoals on Jan 21, 2020 18:28:04 GMT
He would be a fool to move now, he has only just started to score championship goals and he has a good manager here that rates him.
There are no guarantees a move would work out for him. He should stay here for 2 more years and get plenty of games and goals under his belt in a competitive league, his time will come
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Post by ursemboys on Jan 21, 2020 18:30:27 GMT
Rangers don't have the money to put in a block buster offer, just media shit, and I would be amazed if they could offer better wages then Stoke irrelevant of FFP, Rooney won't be on peanuts at Derby , I would have thought Celtic where in a better position then Rangers money wise.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 21, 2020 18:34:03 GMT
Rangers don't have the money to put in a block buster offer, just media shit, and I would be amazed if they could offer better wages then Stoke irrelevant of FFP, Rooney won't be on peanuts at Derby , I would have thought Celtic where in a better position then Rangers money wise. They don't need a blockbuster offer. Campbell is a free agent and can leave for a fixed fee of £400,000 at the end of the season.
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Post by ursemboys on Jan 21, 2020 18:46:32 GMT
Rangers don't have the money to put in a block buster offer, just media shit, and I would be amazed if they could offer better wages then Stoke irrelevant of FFP, Rooney won't be on peanuts at Derby , I would have thought Celtic where in a better position then Rangers money wise. They don't need a blockbuster offer. Campbell is a free agent and can leave for a fixed fee of £400,000 at the end of the season. Only quoting what the press where saying ,but they would still need out bid Celtic and Sheffield United so perhaps this is bumper offer they mean and not what they need pay Stoke
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Post by Squeekster on Jan 21, 2020 19:00:51 GMT
The thing is I'm not convinced he is the finished product, I would play him to develop him into what he could become. I also think that would be somewhat humiliating for all parties. One things for sure, I’ll doubt he’ll commit until he knows what division we will be playing in next season Doesn't it say in this tread somewhere that he wants an improved offer by the end of the week or else?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 21, 2020 19:06:17 GMT
They don't need a blockbuster offer. Campbell is a free agent and can leave for a fixed fee of £400,000 at the end of the season. Only quoting what the press where saying ,but they would still need out bid Celtic and Sheffield United so perhaps this is bumper offer they mean and not what they need pay Stoke He can sign for whoever he wants to. If Rangers leave it to the development fee and someone else offers £10 million he can still sign for Rangers for £400,000. He holds all the cards. We have no say whatsoever if he decides to turn down any offer from us.
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Post by scfc75 on Jan 21, 2020 19:09:32 GMT
Only quoting what the press where saying ,but they would still need out bid Celtic and Sheffield United so perhaps this is bumper offer they mean and not what they need pay Stoke He can sign for whoever he wants to. If Rangers leave it to the development fee and someone else offers £10 million he can still sign for Rangers for £400,000. He holds all the cards. We have no say whatsoever if he decides to turn down any offer from us. I think that’s what he’s saying... maybe the bumper offer is the contract and not the offer to us... ie all they need to do is offer him the best contract, we get no say.
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Post by foxysgloves on Jan 21, 2020 19:13:13 GMT
Anybody else get the feeling it’s a hamstring ‘injury’ rather than a hamstring injury??
Maybe I’m just a cynical old b’stard but given Krazy Kevin in the background I wonder if Tyrese was happy to have bagged his goal and added a few more grand to his potential weekly wage?
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Post by ursemboys on Jan 21, 2020 19:17:13 GMT
Only quoting what the press where saying ,but they would still need out bid Celtic and Sheffield United so perhaps this is bumper offer they mean and not what they need pay Stoke He can sign for whoever he wants to. If Rangers leave it to the development fee and someone else offers £10 million he can still sign for Rangers for £400,000. He holds all the cards. We have no say whatsoever if he decides to turn down any offer from us. Like i said before it's not the what they need pay Stoke it's what they need pay Campbell to get him turn down other parties.
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Post by karl on Jan 21, 2020 19:19:42 GMT
Got a feeling this is doing to a deadline day announcement if he signs a new contract and if he doesn't he will be off to the SPL in the summer.
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Post by GreaterGlasgowstokie on Jan 21, 2020 19:23:19 GMT
This will be another huge fuck up arising from the mismanagement in the club, and the disastrous appointments of Rowett and Jones
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Post by lordb on Jan 21, 2020 19:26:40 GMT
Anybody else get the feeling it’s a hamstring ‘injury’ rather than a hamstring injury?? Maybe I’m just a cynical old b’stard but given Krazy Kevin in the background I wonder if Tyrese was happy to have bagged his goal and added a few more grand to his potential weekly wage? No He'd have to be the best actor ever Looked 100% genuine
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Post by Deleted on Jan 21, 2020 19:29:04 GMT
Just give him the contract he wants. It’s important that we keep him, both for the team and also for our faith in the club. The appointment of MON was a masterstroke, but don’t just leave it there Coates / Scholes.
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Post by terrorofturfmoor on Jan 21, 2020 19:47:26 GMT
In the meantime, let's hope we're working in the background at a potential replacement should he leave...... Even if that replacement comes from a smaller club, as long as he knows where the back of the net is!!!
I'd hate to think we'd got to rely on Vokes or Gregory for the remainder of the season!!!
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Post by karl on Jan 21, 2020 19:54:55 GMT
In the meantime, let's hope we're working in the background at a potential replacement should he leave...... Even if that replacement comes from a smaller club, as long as he knows where the back of the net is!!! I'd hate to think we'd got to rely on Vokes or Gregory for the remainder of the season!!! We have got Ngoy to call on haven't we?
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Post by terrorofturfmoor on Jan 21, 2020 20:07:29 GMT
In the meantime, let's hope we're working in the background at a potential replacement should he leave...... Even if that replacement comes from a smaller club, as long as he knows where the back of the net is!!! I'd hate to think we'd got to rely on Vokes or Gregory for the remainder of the season!!! We have got Ngoy to call on haven't we? Yeah, but with not seen anything from him for a few seasons, I don't know what to expect now??? O'Neil seems happy enough to bring Gregory or Vokes on before him, whether or not that throws any light on it???
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Post by stokeykez on Jan 21, 2020 22:05:51 GMT
If sheff utd come in could we try and tempt Billy sharp come our way
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