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Post by sufolkstokie on Dec 29, 2019 21:44:30 GMT
We were knackered from the off. Jimmy Mc, Shawcross and Clucas all needed to be rested. There was no midfield and the one up front was again fruitless
Some appear to think it is some sort of victory we only lost by 1 against Fulham? Really?
No ambition and subs too late and bizarre The midfield needed life and creativity Lord knows why Fulham sat back second half and flattered us to deceive
Big issue, again over Ryan who is a modern day Stoke Hero but injuries look to be signalling the end
Tom Ince was shocking and went missing again
Well done Butland. Apart from that it looked like we were playing straight after the 97 mins game. Lots of key players now potentially missing for the Huddersfield game
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Post by Deleted on Dec 29, 2019 21:46:26 GMT
We played Triv all afternoon. Why do you ask?
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Post by richardparker on Dec 29, 2019 22:00:48 GMT
How many were you expecting to win by?
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Post by lordb on Dec 29, 2019 22:04:35 GMT
Pleased with the battling effort second half.
At least twenty of the other sides we have to play won't be as good as Fulham.
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Post by scfcbiancorossi on Dec 29, 2019 22:04:48 GMT
Agreed. It is a sign of the times that people think losing 1-0 (our 17th loss of the season) is somehow a success and as one poster put it a "turning point". Barmy.
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Post by NassauDave on Dec 29, 2019 22:05:01 GMT
We were knackered from the off. Jimmy Mc, Shawcross and Clucas all needed to be rested. There was no midfield and the one up front was again fruitless Some appear to think it is some sort of victory we only lost by 1 against Fulham? Really? No ambition and subs too late and bizarre The midfield needed life and creativity Lord knows why Fulham sat back second half and flattered us to deceive Big issue, again over Ryan who is a modern day Stoke Hero but injuries look to be signalling the end Tom Ince was shocking and went missing again Well done Butland. Apart from that it looked like we were playing straight after the 97 mins game. Lots of key players now potentially missing for the Huddersfield game Fucking spot on mate. |
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Post by sufolkstokie on Dec 29, 2019 22:07:23 GMT
Pleased with the battling effort second half. At least twenty of the other sides we have to play won't be as good as Fulham. And we have lost to over half of them. |
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Post by lordb on Dec 29, 2019 22:09:01 GMT
Pleased with the battling effort second half. At least twenty of the other sides we have to play won't be as good as Fulham. And we have lost to over half of them. Not under O'Neill The side is now showing fight They weren't before |
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Post by datguy on Dec 29, 2019 22:10:06 GMT
McClean shouldn't have played. He was beyond tired from minute 1.
Whether he's declared himself fit again before the game or not, MON should've taken the hit. Poor management imo.
The fitness level of all the players is a big worry though. Another game in a few days time much bigger than this.
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Post by sufolkstokie on Dec 29, 2019 22:19:38 GMT
And we have lost to over half of them. Not under O'Neill The side is now showing fight They weren't before We will have to agree to disagree. I thought we showed very little today and it was very poor management |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 29, 2019 22:25:44 GMT
Not under O'Neill The side is now showing fight They weren't before We will have to agree to disagree. I thought we showed very little today and it was very poor management The way he approached the game was poor but the way he managed the game and his subs were spot on. We're far better under him. |
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Post by teenagefanclub on Dec 29, 2019 22:52:36 GMT
I watched Swansea Barnsley and it was terrible
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Post by Davef on Dec 30, 2019 0:01:25 GMT
What you're getting is a few players showing the kind of leadership and commitment that we're going to need over the next few months to see us through the shit we're currently in. Fans have been queuing up to abuse players for not showing commitment yet when they do step up to the plate the manager gets shit for selecting them! You couldn't make it up.
The attitude shown by the likes of Shawcross, McClean and Clucas will hopefully rub off and a few new signings will see us safe.
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Post by estrangedsonoffaye on Dec 30, 2019 0:14:47 GMT
O’Neill is clearly not Mr Expansive Football but I get it, we can’t really afford to be. But the way he sets his teams up we are playing to be the 4th worst team in the division and nothing more. Which is fine for this season, but we really need to put up some runs of 3-4 games in which we get at least a point. Beating Sheffield Wednesday in the dying seconds means fuck all if we the. lose the next 3 games.
It’s going to be ugly, successful or otherwise.
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Post by wuzza on Dec 30, 2019 0:15:57 GMT
The bar has gotten very low.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Dec 30, 2019 0:19:49 GMT
What you're getting is a few players showing the kind of leadership and commitment that we're going to need over the next few months to see us through the shit we're currently in. Fans have been queuing up to abuse players for not showing commitment yet when they do step up to the plate the manager gets shit for selecting them! You couldn't make it up. The attitude shown by the likes of Shawcross, McClean and Clucas will hopefully rub off and a few new signings will see us safe. There’s not a cat in hells chance McClean should have played today. It’s all good and well that it’s fighting spirit and pashun but it’s no good if they’re knackered for the game we should stand more of a chance of winning. |
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Post by nottsover60 on Dec 30, 2019 0:26:47 GMT
McLean probably shouldn't have played but presumably on Wednesday Verlinden will be available as the transfer window will be open? If so McLean can have a well deserved break v Huddersfield and in the cup if required. Today we had no alternative.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Dec 30, 2019 0:30:26 GMT
McLean probably shouldn't have played but presumably on Wednesday Verlindern will be available as the transfer window will be open? If so McLean can have a well deserved break v Huddersfield and in the cup if required. Today we had no alternative. It’s after that game apparently. Ince on the left and Gregory on the right in a game we were more than likely lose anyway would make more sense than resting a bloke who has been our best attacker for the last month in a game we are more likely to win. |
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Post by nottsover60 on Dec 30, 2019 0:38:25 GMT
If that's the case I suspect McLean will put himself forward for Wednesday then. Can't fault him for that and I'd rather have that sort of player half fit on the pitch plus that attitude can only have a beneficial effect on other players thinking of taking a rest for a niggle. I don't remember players in the 70's not being able to play every match over the Christmas period.
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Post by Pretty Little Boother on Dec 30, 2019 1:03:51 GMT
It was fucking wank.
We were pathetic, again.
I don't care that some players were tired, we're the 7th highest spenders in Europe.
Not good enough by a long way.
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Post by Rose City Potter on Dec 30, 2019 1:21:38 GMT
I can't fault the effort but they looked knackered. I would have preferred that he rotated the team today as it was always going to be a tall order. I would think that Huddersfield would be a higher priority.
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Post by crapslinger on Dec 30, 2019 8:52:31 GMT
McLean probably shouldn't have played but presumably on Wednesday Verlinden will be available as the transfer window will be open? If so McLean can have a well deserved break v Huddersfield and in the cup if required. Today we had no alternative. Two players for every position  |
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Post by dirtygary69 on Dec 30, 2019 9:31:26 GMT
Said before the game that we should be making changes as 3 or 4 players would do well to play 2 games in 3 days but it must be tough for the manager if he’s trying to build on the Sheff Wed result but then has to take key players out. And you look at the squad we have and wonder what changes really could be made and, unless he’s willing to go two up front, there wasn’t really much he could do. The only obvious one was Indi for Ward but I’m guessing Bruno is off soon anyway.
First half was crap, second half was less crap but it just looked like two teams struggling to get much going to me. I know the festive period is enjoyable for what it is, but I don’t think it always culminates in brilliant games of football.
It wasn’t the easiest game to go into after the Sheffield Wednesday win and it’s disappointing again that we can’t seem to get any run of results going. It would have been nice to get a result yesterday and it was pretty shit but that is what we are. I know we’ve all identified it and had our say on how much we’ve spent and how much better we should be, but we’re clearly just not very good and not on the same level as teams like Fulham.
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Post by nottsover60 on Dec 30, 2019 9:51:05 GMT
McLean probably shouldn't have played but presumably on Wednesday Verlinden will be available as the transfer window will be open? If so McLean can have a well deserved break v Huddersfield and in the cup if required. Today we had no alternative. Two players for every position To be fair left wing wasn't a position in Jones's team. |
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Post by nottsover60 on Dec 30, 2019 9:56:59 GMT
Have those saying we should have rested players to keep them for Saturday forgotten Mark Hughes doing that over Christmas of our relegation season? I'm sure he played a weak team against a top side to save players for an 'easier'winnable game which we went on to lose. Middlesborough haven't done badly with a weak team so perhaps giving other hopefully younger players a chance could work for us. McLean is our best player at the moment so I want him playing as often as possible.
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Post by Pugsley on Dec 30, 2019 9:57:43 GMT
Like I say, queuing up...
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Post by crapslinger on Dec 30, 2019 10:03:59 GMT
Two players for every position To be fair left wing wasn't a position in Jones's team. Neither was full back, central defender or striker  |
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Post by thevoid on Dec 30, 2019 10:15:11 GMT
We were knackered from the off. Jimmy Mc, Shawcross and Clucas all needed to be rested. There was no midfield and the one up front was again fruitless Some appear to think it is some sort of victory we only lost by 1 against Fulham? Really? No ambition and subs too late and bizarre The midfield needed life and creativity Lord knows why Fulham sat back second half and flattered us to deceive Big issue, again over Ryan who is a modern day Stoke Hero but injuries look to be signalling the end Tom Ince was shocking and went missing again Well done Butland. Apart from that it looked like we were playing straight after the 97 mins game. Lots of key players now potentially missing for the Huddersfield game I think some people are just happy we didn't get rinced in terms of scoreline and are claiming moral victory. They were streets ahead of us. |
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Post by robwahlmann on Dec 30, 2019 10:37:41 GMT
I think our lack of alternatives in wide areas are beginning to show, but from the 2 January Verlinden and Tymon are back. Verlinden is a huge talent and I haven't given up on Tymon yet, at least he has got decent pace something both Ward and Indi haven't got. With somebody able to give him some guidence defensively we should be better off!  |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 30, 2019 12:41:39 GMT
Pleased with the battling effort second half. At least twenty of the other sides we have to play won't be as good as Fulham. This. The game could have called for us to use Clucas further forward, to cut off the long diagonals that caused us so many problems in the first half. That said, they scored a goal that wouldn’t have been allowed for VAR and spent much of the second half desperate for the ref to call for a foul and then full time. |
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