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Post by bayernoatcake on Jan 21, 2020 9:19:04 GMT
Some people honestly must watch a different game than me. I thought he did some good work second half, but his first half performance was atrocious. He constantly gave the ball away, some really sloppy passes behind the man when we're making an effort to counter. Some needless fouls (some good ones too) and a 45 minutes for me which were really, really poor. People like him because he runs around a lot. This is a fair account of his game last night.
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Post by FullerMagic on Jan 21, 2020 9:28:43 GMT
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Post by stokie223 on Jan 21, 2020 9:50:27 GMT
Some people honestly must watch a different game than me. I thought he did some good work second half, but his first half performance was atrocious. He constantly gave the ball away, some really sloppy passes behind the man when we're making an effort to counter. Some needless fouls (some good ones too) and a 45 minutes for me which were really, really poor. People like him because he runs around a lot. This is a fair account of his game last night. He was really poor first half. At half time he was getting battered on Twitter by neutrals. He broke up some of their play, but he broke up ours more. Creates way more problems than he solves for me. Some Stoke fans are blinded by hard work, but as I've said on here a few times, that should be a prerequisite for me. Much improved second half - but they very easily could have scored twice just down to his mistakes. Gave the ball away with a poor pass on the edge of our area, and the stupid foul he committed when he got booked.
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Post by pez75 on Jan 21, 2020 16:49:59 GMT
At times he struggled to keep possession due to WBA's intense pressing but overall he was excellent again. Easily one of our best players last night along with Butland & Batth.
Been consistently good since MON came and proving the haters wrong (even though they wont admit it). Lets hope he stays & plays!
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Jan 21, 2020 17:09:59 GMT
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Post by gingerninja on Jan 21, 2020 17:09:59 GMT
Percentage chances of him being here come Feb 1st?.
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Post by stoke111 on Jan 21, 2020 17:14:12 GMT
The real person we should be questioning in that midfield is Clucas. For the last few games what has he added? Joe Allen’s trying to do 2 men’s job because we’re carrying Clucas at the moment.
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Jan 21, 2020 17:17:32 GMT
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Post by wakefieldstokie on Jan 21, 2020 17:17:32 GMT
The real person we should be questioning in that midfield is Clucas. For the last few games what has he added? Joe Allen’s trying to do 2 men’s job because we’re carrying Clucas at the moment. I think this is a fair point regarding Clucas, a few games ago he was performing well. The last few not so, last night I thought he was lacking a bit.
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Post by redstriper on Jan 21, 2020 17:19:15 GMT
Some people have an agenda on here. He was immense last night. He constantly disrupted wba by getting his foot in, never gave them a moments peace, and created our only two chances in the second half by reading the game and intercepting, he even won some aerial duels he had no right to win.
When he looks bad its because he is the only one pressing, and so the opposition can pass around him, making him look like a headless chicken. In a side where everybody gets tight on their man and blocks the easy pass he is massively effective because he has bags of energy, reads the game and is adept a getting his foot to the ball.
Our best player under MON. Rightly captain when shawx is out.
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Jan 21, 2020 17:20:12 GMT
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Post by zerps on Jan 21, 2020 17:20:12 GMT
1st half abysmal 2nd half mom.
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Jan 21, 2020 17:22:25 GMT
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Post by gingerninja on Jan 21, 2020 17:22:25 GMT
Clucas has certainly dropped off last 2 games, I feel he was much more effective further forward, hence his goals, in that midfield 2 we are too lightweight. The way Livermore & Sawyer's shrugged us off at times was men against boy's.
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Post by harlequin on Jan 21, 2020 17:33:16 GMT
1st half abysmal 2nd half mom. His performance didn't change much in my opinion. What he does just didn't come off in the first half and reaped the rewards in the second.
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Post by FullerMagic on Jan 21, 2020 17:40:40 GMT
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Jan 21, 2020 17:47:30 GMT
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Post by zerps on Jan 21, 2020 17:47:30 GMT
1st half abysmal 2nd half mom. His performance didn't change much in my opinion. What he does just didn't come off in the first half and reaped the rewards in the second. Every pass in the first half was played behind his man
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Post by foxysgloves on Jan 21, 2020 17:55:43 GMT
1st half abysmal 2nd half mom. Abysmal?! In a half we bossed and led 1-0. Against top of the table. Away. Afuckingbysmal.
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Post by mrcoke on Jan 21, 2020 17:59:46 GMT
Clucas has certainly dropped off last 2 games, I feel he was much more effective further forward, hence his goals, in that midfield 2 we are too lightweight. The way Livermore & Sawyer's shrugged us off at times was men against boy's. I agree. I think Powell had "robbed his job" if you follow my meaning. Clubs looked "lost" at times as though he was out of step with others, although it would be unfair to say he played badly. He certainly isn't commanding the game like he was at Barnsley and earlier in the season.
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Post by GreaterGlasgowstokie on Jan 21, 2020 17:59:46 GMT
Both Clucas and Allen were disciplined and constantly worked to cut out the space just in front of the defence.
I was watching their work off the ball constantly, they both did a good job, and seemed to KNOW where to be, in stark contrast to when Jones and before him Rowett was in charge.
On the ball, it got sloppy at times but Allen was superb second half on AND off the ball, and if Gregory could finish we would have killed the game.
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Jan 21, 2020 18:01:00 GMT
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Post by zerps on Jan 21, 2020 18:01:00 GMT
1st half abysmal 2nd half mom. Abysmal?! In a half we bossed and led 1-0. Against top of the table. Away. Afuckingbysmal. Yeah he was absolutely wank.
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Jan 21, 2020 18:02:36 GMT
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Post by foxysgloves on Jan 21, 2020 18:02:36 GMT
Abysmal?! In a half we bossed and led 1-0. Against top of the table. Away. Afuckingbysmal. Yeah he was absolutely wank. 😂😂😂 With crap like that I wouldn’t blame him if he fecked off to West Ham. I doubt West Brom’s midfield has looked as poor all season. And he was a massive reason why.
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Jan 21, 2020 18:37:14 GMT
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Post by zerps on Jan 21, 2020 18:37:14 GMT
Yeah he was absolutely wank. 😂😂😂 With crap like that I wouldn’t blame him if he fecked off to West Ham. I doubt West Brom’s midfield has looked as poor all season. And he was a massive reason why. Check out the match day thread up to half time. Hopefully he does too 😄
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Post by mrteddysalad on Jan 21, 2020 18:42:15 GMT
hopefully west ham only watched the 2nd half and didn't watch any film from the previous 2 years either
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Post by Pugsley on Jan 21, 2020 18:43:59 GMT
Haters gotta hate.
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Jan 21, 2020 18:47:32 GMT
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Post by foxysgloves on Jan 21, 2020 18:47:32 GMT
😂😂😂 With crap like that I wouldn’t blame him if he fecked off to West Ham. I doubt West Brom’s midfield has looked as poor all season. And he was a massive reason why. Check out the match day thread up to half time. Hopefully he does too 😄 I’ve learned long ago that what’s posted while a match is being played is generally higher on the normal bollocks:sense ratio on here. And considering there’s a lot of bollocks posted at any other time that’s saying something.
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Post by estrangedsonoffaye on Jan 21, 2020 19:00:30 GMT
I hope Joe doesn’t offend people on here with his admission that his form pripr to O’Neill joining was poor and not good enough.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 21, 2020 19:03:30 GMT
There is lot to be said for someone in the middle of the park , who can run and run, break up play , and run some more .
He's not a bad footballer, but his work rate his phenomenal
I am sure we would miss him , if wasn't there .
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Jan 21, 2020 19:15:06 GMT
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Post by zerps on Jan 21, 2020 19:15:06 GMT
Check out the match day thread up to half time. Hopefully he does too 😄 I’ve learned long ago that what’s posted while a match is being played is generally higher on the normal bollocks:sense ratio on here. And considering there’s a lot of bollocks posted at any other time that’s saying something. I thought this was a dating site until 2 weeks ago.
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Jan 21, 2020 20:03:14 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Jan 21, 2020 20:03:14 GMT
Yeah he was absolutely wank. 😂😂😂 With crap like that I wouldn’t blame him if he fecked off to West Ham. I doubt West Brom’s midfield has looked as poor all season. And he was a massive reason why. He's being watched by David Moyes west ham because he is a borderline premier League player . In top flight football , it's not about micro analysis of every mistake a player might make . It's about impact .Can you go out there and impact on the match and do stuff . Allen is one of the few players we have who can do this . And even when he fails to do this , it ain't for lack of trying . You have to give the bloke credit for giving it 100 per cent every week , every match .
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Jan 21, 2020 20:05:10 GMT
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Post by foxysgloves on Jan 21, 2020 20:05:10 GMT
😂😂😂 With crap like that I wouldn’t blame him if he fecked off to West Ham. I doubt West Brom’s midfield has looked as poor all season. And he was a massive reason why. He's being watched by David Moyes west ham because he is a borderline premier League player . In top flight football , it's not about micro analysis of every mistake a player might make . It's about impact .Can you go out there and impact on the match and do stuff . Allen is one of the few players we have who can do this . And even when he fails to do this , it ain't for lack of trying . You have to give the bloke credit for giving it 100 per cent every week , every match . Agreed.
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Jan 21, 2020 20:15:05 GMT
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Post by onionman on Jan 21, 2020 20:15:05 GMT
I hope Joe doesn’t offend people on here with his admission that his form pripr to O’Neill joining was poor and not good enough. He has an agenda against himself.
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Post by FullerMagic on Jan 21, 2020 22:45:34 GMT
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Post by GreaterGlasgowstokie on Jan 21, 2020 22:50:11 GMT
10 million? If we take that we should put add ons in based on appearances at least.
It would be madness to sell for less and we need a back up ready, which isn't cheap in January.
After his performance yesterday I'd ask for 12 million.
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