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Post by benjaminbiscuit on Nov 30, 2019 21:47:51 GMT
McClean has been our best player for the past month, weird that you've even mentioned him. How is it weird? He's above average in this league, that shows how rubbish the rest of the squad really is if he is our best player by a huge margin. Diouf comes back and offers more than Ince, Vokes, Powell, Greggers and Hogan instantly. McClean is the only one along with diouf willing to give all to create a chance. Hate to tell you the reality. McClean can help but if we're relying on him outlook isn't good. January is going to be make or break for the club. Another above average winger(Ince is shit) a goal scoring striker and real fullback are definitely needed. We really should not be Banking on January I give you scholes Coates Junior and shamrock fergie whose never done a window v the world it’s like betting on Craig Revel Horwood v Mike Tyson in a fight to the death
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Post by generationex on Nov 30, 2019 21:47:58 GMT
Maybe both Etebo and badou have both made it clear they want to leave in January ? Apart from injuries That’s the only way this makes any sense, he doesn’t want anyone in the side who doesn’t want to be at the club ? Who cares if they have? Get them in the team, it drives their price up and it gives us a chance of pulling clear of the trapdoor. Is there a player on the books we’d turn down a reasonable offer for? Isn’t that the cancer that has destroyed the club since Hughes? The idea that an individual agenda trumps the club. Maybe the time has come to cut the narcissistic self-obsessives out - I think the idea that they’ll make the effort to sell themselves is naive. They believe they’re too good to even need to bother. They despise our football club. Rooting out the ‘doing us a favour’ or ‘waiting for their next move’ types must be MONS first job.
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Nov 30, 2019 21:49:32 GMT
Who cares if they have? Get them in the team, it drives their price up and it gives us a chance of pulling clear of the trapdoor. Is there a player on the books we’d turn down a reasonable offer for? Isn’t that the cancer that has destroyed the club since Hughes? The idea that an individual agenda trumps the club. Maybe the time has come to cut the narcissistic self-obsessives out - I think the idea that they’ll make the effort to sell themselves is naive. They believe they’re too good to even need to bother. They despise our football club. Rooting out the ‘doing us a favour’ or ‘waiting for their next move’ types must be MONS first job. But that isn’t what we’re talking about is it? When Ndiaye has played he’s been the consummate professional and been one of our best players. That’s worlds away from the Jeses of the world.
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Post by serpico on Nov 30, 2019 21:51:30 GMT
Maybe both Etebo and badou have both made it clear they want to leave in January ? Apart from injuries That’s the only way this makes any sense, he doesn’t want anyone in the side who doesn’t want to be at the club ? Who cares if they have? Get them in the team, it drives their price up and it gives us a chance of pulling clear of the trapdoor. Is there a player on the books we’d turn down a reasonable offer for? Not saying I agree with MoN if that’s the case, but it could be a reason why he’s leaving them out, some managers don’t like having players in the side who want to leave, understandable any other time but in our current circumstances I don’t think we can afford not to play them.
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Post by citynickscfc on Nov 30, 2019 21:53:29 GMT
Isn’t that the cancer that has destroyed the club since Hughes? The idea that an individual agenda trumps the club. Maybe the time has come to cut the narcissistic self-obsessives out - I think the idea that they’ll make the effort to sell themselves is naive. They believe they’re too good to even need to bother. They despise our football club. Rooting out the ‘doing us a favour’ or ‘waiting for their next move’ types must be MONS first job. But that isn’t what we’re talking about is it? When Ndiaye has played he’s been the consummate professional and been one of our best players. That’s worlds away from the Jeses of the world. And what about etebo? I don't understand this at all. He genuinely wanted to do well for us. Every player wants to earn their dream move. We are little Stoke now... Need to try to get used to it ffs
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Post by tejstokie on Nov 30, 2019 21:59:07 GMT
How is it weird? He's above average in this league, that shows how rubbish the rest of the squad really is if he is our best player by a huge margin. Diouf comes back and offers more than Ince, Vokes, Powell, Greggers and Hogan instantly. McClean is the only one along with diouf willing to give all to create a chance. Hate to tell you the reality. McClean can help but if we're relying on him outlook isn't good. January is going to be make or break for the club. Another above average winger(Ince is shit) a goal scoring striker and real fullback are definitely needed. We really should not be Banking on January I give you scholes Coates Junior and shamrock fergie whose never done a window v the world it’s like betting on Craig Revel Horwood v Mike Tyson in a fight to the death Shamrock Fergie, that is gold. But I don't share your pessimistic outlook on MON if he can find them he will bring them in like Fergie. Question is, are we already to far adrift? He needs time.
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on Nov 30, 2019 22:04:04 GMT
We really should not be Banking on January I give you scholes Coates Junior and shamrock fergie whose never done a window v the world it’s like betting on Craig Revel Horwood v Mike Tyson in a fight to the death Shamrock Fergie, that is gold. But I don't share your pessimistic outlook on MON if he can find them he will bring them in like Fergie. Question is, are we already to far adrift? He needs time. I do hope your right
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Post by smallthorner on Nov 30, 2019 22:55:48 GMT
You said that about Nathan mr coke Correct. And MON may need longer than Lambert, Rowett, and Jones. And like Lèeds, Wigan, Blackburn, and Sunderland we may go down to League 1 before any manager turns things round. But whatever happens the turn round will come sooner, if fans get behind the club rather than booing them off. See you at Hull What a strange answer. What are you insinuating??
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Post by citynickscfc on Nov 30, 2019 22:58:29 GMT
Correct. And MON may need longer than Lambert, Rowett, and Jones. And like Lèeds, Wigan, Blackburn, and Sunderland we may go down to League 1 before any manager turns things round. But whatever happens the turn round will come sooner, if fans get behind the club rather than booing them off. See you at Hull What a strange answer. What are you insuiating?? Wouldn't it be nice if the players simply resonated with the fans and gave their all? 😂 It's almost as if that's what he's insinuating, but they don't give a shot, so why is booing not allowed?
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Post by royalewithcheese on Nov 30, 2019 23:18:07 GMT
I just wish one of the fucking reporters would actually ask him the question straight.
Why aren't you picking Etebo or Ndiaye?
See what he says.
We're massively in the shit and our 2 best players can't get a game. Theres something fucking wrong there.
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Post by mrcoke on Dec 1, 2019 9:42:10 GMT
Correct. And MON may need longer than Lambert, Rowett, and Jones. And like Lèeds, Wigan, Blackburn, and Sunderland we may go down to League 1 before any manager turns things round. But whatever happens the turn round will come sooner, if fans get behind the club rather than booing them off. See you at Hull What a strange answer. What are you insinuating?? Simply: 1. This club is on a downward path, and it could take a long time to turn it round. Just because MON has lost 2 of his first 4 matches does not mean it could not be him; some people think he is the wrong man before he has started. Wilder had a worse start at Sheff Utd, but he turned it round; that was from the 3rd tier. 2. There are numerous precedents for our position. I mentioned 4. When we were promoted in 2008, Portsmouth were in Europe, and Bolton were also in the Prem. The fall from the Prem to the 3rd tier is common, and the first thing to avoid when relegated. 3. I support Stoke; I will never boo them off the pitch, as some did yesterday. It doesn't help the manager or anyone.
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Post by jontimmis on Dec 1, 2019 9:48:43 GMT
10 games is the barometer surely. Cutting edge is yet again the theme going forward and simply being able to defend any ball that comes into the six yard box.
It’s going to be tough.....
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Post by trickydicky73 on Dec 1, 2019 9:56:44 GMT
I just wish one of the fucking reporters would actually ask him the question straight. Why aren't you picking Etebo or Ndiaye? See what he says. We're massively in the shit and our 2 best players can't get a game. Theres something fucking wrong there. They should put it exactly like that, including the last paragraph.
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Post by smallthorner on Dec 1, 2019 17:44:05 GMT
What a strange answer. What are you insinuating?? Simply: 1. This club is on a downward path, and it could take a long time to turn it round. Just because MON has lost 2 of his first 4 matches does not mean it could not be him; some people think he is the wrong man before he has started. Wilder had a worse start at Sheff Utd, but he turned it round; that was from the 3rd tier. 2. There are numerous precedents for our position. I mentioned 4. When we were promoted in 2008, Portsmouth were in Europe, and Bolton were also in the Prem. The fall from the Prem to the 3rd tier is common, and the first thing to avoid when relegated. 3. I support Stoke; I will never boo them off the pitch, as some did yesterday. It doesn't help the manager or anyone. I didn't boo. Not sure why you even mentioned it to me to be honest. I'm being critical of the Manager because I care about our Club.. like you. He's made a couple of strange decisions that concern me. If he's not playing Badou and Etebo for political reasons... he's a weak manager and a puppet. If he's not playing them by choice.. I'm worried.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 1, 2019 17:55:49 GMT
For me
It's attitude that's what MoN ,has to sort out
It's so obvious ... A kids team knows it ...
You win
Or you go down all guns blazing
You never ever ever , just go through the motions and lose without even trying
Unfortunately at least half MoNs squad don't think this applies to them
And there apathy is turning the club into a laughing stock
Good luck to MoN ,sorting out this lazy , half arsed bunch of arrogant millionaires
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Post by Deleted on Dec 5, 2019 14:26:35 GMT
The manager has confirmed in his press conference today that NDiaye was left out for tactical reasons and the current three in midfield have been consistent.
Apart from the obvious joke about consistency, just wow!
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