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Post by salopstick on Jan 29, 2020 6:52:16 GMT
That's a really poor comment. Really vile stuff. Get a grip on history and put it into perspective. Andrew has not been convicted of anything. He's innocent until proven guilty. Now consider William II. He filled his courts with attractive young men. Never marrying and without children, he instead dressed his courtiers in pointed shoes and ordered they grow out their hair. He chose to promote based on performance in bed, rather than talent. And what of Richard I who allied with Philip II of France and “ate every day at the same table and from the same dish, and at night their beds did not separate them." Thus wrote Roger of Hovden, a chronicler who knew Richard personally. Then there is Edward II who was ‘wedded brothers’ with Piers Gaveston, the Earl of Cornwall. Henry VIII had six wives and fathered many illegitimate children in case you've forgotten! Charles II used to say “God will never damn a man for allowing himself a little pleasure." During his nine years of exile (when Oliver Cromwell ruled Britain), he had at least seventeen recorded mistresses. Edward VII was a serial womaniser. In 1870 there was a huge scandal caused by The Mordaunt Case when Sir Charles Mordaunt bought a divorce against his wife, and the Prince of Wales was subpoena’d. She confessed to having ‘done wrong’ with the Prince, and the man of letters, Sir Henry Ponsonby, commented, “London was black with the smoke of burnt confidential letters.” The list goes on. I am no particular supporter of Prince Andrew and utterly condemn sex trafficking. But put his situation into perspective and remember he has not been accused of anything. so for some perspective the nearest bit of relevance you can put forward happened 150 years ago, and against that what Andrew has done isn’t that bad... granted he’s not been accused officially. But you and I know that by the established facts that are out there ( photos, pilots testimony, his own words regards meetings etc, and that shambolic interview) this man has guilty written all over him. Hopefully soon the fbi will get miss maxwell to give up her secrets then watch the deck of cards fall.... Shouldn’t the FBI concentrate on getting maxwell first. Regardless of wether Andrew is guilty or not it seems the FBI concentrate on him to keep the heat off everyone else |
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Post by richie22 on Jan 29, 2020 7:07:14 GMT
so for some perspective the nearest bit of relevance you can put forward happened 150 years ago, and against that what Andrew has done isn’t that bad... granted he’s not been accused officially. But you and I know that by the established facts that are out there ( photos, pilots testimony, his own words regards meetings etc, and that shambolic interview) this man has guilty written all over him. Hopefully soon the fbi will get miss maxwell to give up her secrets then watch the deck of cards fall.... Shouldn’t the FBI concentrate on getting maxwell first. Regardless of wether Andrew is guilty or not it seems the FBI concentrate on him to keep the heat off everyone else am I right in saying that the FBI are in contact with Maxwell through her legal team, I see maybe a bargain deal being done to give up her secrets. The issue is how much does she have and how far up the political food chain does it lead. A lot could and should fall, regards Andrew for years he has trekked around the world on our tab ‘REPRESENTING THE BRITISH PEOPLE’ whilst for the most part he’s lived it up with his twisted mates. Getting up to some quite shady things, the only thing he doesn’t seem to of done on those trips was sweat, drink and publicly hugg anyone. He’s an arsehole, fuck him off |
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Post by JoeinOz on Jan 29, 2020 9:54:42 GMT
Part of the monarchy mindset will be confused. Wondering how tbey are in the firing line. Even the prime minister said they should be beyond reproach.
They think they can do what they want. Vulnerable people becoming victims of sex trafficking? They aren't bothered, if they want to abuse those people for their own entertainment they feel fully entitled to do so.
They are in turmoil at being subjected to the law.
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Post by wagsastokie on Jan 29, 2020 10:06:02 GMT
Maybe the British press should put in as much effort on the hordes of child grooming gangs as they do Andrew
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Post by JoeinOz on Jan 29, 2020 10:20:19 GMT
Maybe the British press should put in as much effort on the hordes of child grooming gangs as they do Andrew No mate. They should focus on the grooming gangs like they focus on Meghan Markull. |
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Post by prestwichpotter on Jan 29, 2020 11:17:51 GMT
Maybe the British press should put in as much effort on the hordes of child grooming gangs as they do Andrew No mate. They should focus on the grooming gangs like they focus on Meghan Markull. Bingo..... |
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Post by Rednwhitenblue on Jun 9, 2020 6:50:59 GMT
Seems very simple to me.
He could fly over to the States, be questioned by the FBI to their content, then fly home again, safe in the knowledge he's fully helped out, thereby going a small way to restoring his currently destroyed reputation.
Instead, he hides from view and gets his lawyers to argue about the process.
Makes you wonder why he doesn't!
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Post by prestwichpotter on Jun 9, 2020 6:52:26 GMT
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Post by Rednwhitenblue on Jun 9, 2020 6:53:56 GMT
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Post by raythesailor on Jun 9, 2020 7:53:57 GMT
Seems very simple to me. He could fly over to the States, be questioned by the FBI to their content, then fly home again, safe in the knowledge he's fully helped out, thereby going a small way to restoring his currently destroyed reputation. Instead, he hides from view and gets his lawyers to argue about the process. Makes you wonder why he doesn't! I don’t think he is ever going to set foot in the US of A again, or at least for a very long time. I would suspect he has been very strongly advised not to. |
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Post by raythesailor on Jun 9, 2020 7:56:16 GMT
Surely that has to a spoof? Funny all the same. |
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Post by prestwichpotter on Jun 9, 2020 11:45:57 GMT
Surely that has to a spoof? Funny all the same. No it happened...... |
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Post by murphthesurf on Jun 9, 2020 11:46:57 GMT
That is brilliant!  After the clip has run and the camera goes back to the desk, Dermot M???han's face is a picture! He looks as if he's trying hard not to 'suddenly go to the loo' / himself....... if you know what I mean. Actually, he was probably also picking up a load of colourful swearing from the control room on his hidden earpiece as horror and realisation dawned on all of them --- you can tell by how he slightly hesitates before he starts to speak again. He was probably listening to the last of a long line of words beginning with f.......  |
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Post by raythesailor on Jun 9, 2020 11:47:59 GMT
Surely that has to a spoof? Funny all the same. No it happened...... Really? Well that is an amazing cock up. |
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Post by murphthesurf on Jun 9, 2020 11:54:12 GMT
Surely that has to a spoof? Funny all the same. No it happened...... Imagine the studio inquest after the programme had finished! "WHO THE F.............  "  |
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Post by Gods on Jun 9, 2020 11:56:42 GMT
Seems very simple to me. He could fly over to the States, be questioned by the FBI to their content, then fly home again, safe in the knowledge he's fully helped out, thereby going a small way to restoring his currently destroyed reputation. Instead, he hides from view and gets his lawyers to argue about the process. Makes you wonder why he doesn't! Think it's the 'fly home again' bit his lawyers will be worried about! |
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Post by lordb on Jun 9, 2020 17:24:23 GMT
Is he still on the payroll?
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Post by Rednwhitenblue on Jun 10, 2020 7:08:49 GMT
Seems very simple to me. He could fly over to the States, be questioned by the FBI to their content, then fly home again, safe in the knowledge he's fully helped out, thereby going a small way to restoring his currently destroyed reputation. Instead, he hides from view and gets his lawyers to argue about the process. Makes you wonder why he doesn't! I don’t think he is ever going to set foot in the US of A again, or at least for a very long time. I would suspect he has been very strongly advised not to. You're probably right. So what he's really doing is trying to make out he's the victim in all this. "I've offered to help loads of times, honest, but they won't let me help" in an effort to slowly rehabilitate himself into the life he enjoyed before. It's actually worse than if he just fucked off from public life completely, for the remainder of his life. |
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Post by thequietman on Jun 10, 2020 11:27:28 GMT
From what I understand, he's "offered to help" several times but refuses to attend a formal interview.
He really needs to get (yet another) PR company. That's if anyone would take the slimy toad on as a client.
Simple solution? We'll send him over there on a "fact finding mission" for them to deal with however they wish. Provided they send us Anne Sacoolas to face the due process of law over here. Win win.
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Post by Gods on Jun 10, 2020 17:00:32 GMT
From what I understand, he's "offered to help" several times but refuses to attend a formal interview. He really needs to get (yet another) PR company. That's if anyone would take the slimy toad on as a client. Simple solution? We'll send him over there on a "fact finding mission" for them to deal with however they wish. Provided they send us Anne Sacoolas to face the due process of law over here. Win win.
I think he would say he is just following the legal advice like the government say they are following the medical advice! He went off piste with the Maitlis interview and I reckon his mother has said to him 'don't do that again'! You can't help thinking if he meets the FBI in the USA he ain't coming home. Wise to stay put. |
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Post by richie22 on Jul 31, 2020 20:44:49 GMT
The pied pipers paper trail is starting to play a tune. Hang the bastard
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Post by Rednwhitenblue on Aug 1, 2020 7:22:48 GMT
No charges will ever be brought against Andrew regardless of what he's done, and I suspect his involvement is deeper than it appears.
I saw a documentary on Epstein a few days back. On his private island (Pedo Island as it was known at the time), he employed an engineer to maintain his communications equipment. He said he saw Andrew on the island by Epstein's pool, "fooling around with topless underage girls".
All alleged obviously, but it doesn't look good for him at all.
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Post by richie22 on Aug 1, 2020 18:43:16 GMT
This should be top of the page. It should be top of the news in every English speaking country the world over. That dirty bastard did the very worst things with girls that he knew to of been trafficked. That were of questionable age, This cunt needs to hang
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Post by RichieBarkerOut! on Aug 1, 2020 19:35:53 GMT
Much as I believe the allegations that have been made, they are not (at the moment) statements of fact and should not be treated as such until proven.
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