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Post by harryburrows on Dec 2, 2019 18:08:40 GMT
Virginia Giuffre is insistent Andrew is lying ahead of tonight's programme on the Beeb. Prince Andrew Accuser Insists ‘His Sweat Was Raining Down On Me’ In New Interview linkI'm not one for trial by TV but jesus, he shows all the classic tell tale signs of lying, the fact he's so defensive when asked a question is a red flag IE he got asked how he felt about the whole thing and he went on a monologue about how the last time he saw epstein was in 2010. He also shows the type of casual arrogance of someone who's never been held accountable for anything, the sort of behavior that says the normal rules of decency don't apply to him
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Post by serpico on Dec 2, 2019 19:02:07 GMT
I'm not one for trial by TV but jesus, he shows all the classic tell tale signs of lying, the fact he's so defensive when asked a question is a red flag IE he got asked how he felt about the whole thing and he went on a monologue about how the last time he saw epstein was in 2010. He also shows the type of casual arrogance of someone who's never been held accountable for anything, the sort of behavior that says the normal rules of decency don't apply to him His denials went too far, "i don't drink" "i don't sweat" "i don't give public shows of affection"... all provably false with a quick google search. He also smirks and laughs at really inappropriate times during the interview.
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Post by salopstick on Dec 2, 2019 19:08:40 GMT
I haven’t got a clue wether he did or not. However he should have shown better judgement in the aftermath of Epstein’s release
His arrogance at the privilege of his position doesn’t necessarily mean he’s guilty.
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Post by serpico on Dec 2, 2019 19:12:56 GMT
I haven’t got a clue wether he did or not. However he should have shown better judgement in the aftermath of Epstein’s release His arrogance at the privilege of his position doesn’t necessarily mean he’s guilty. he does tie himself up a bit in the interview though, which suggests he's making shit up IE he says he went to see epstein to tell him to his face he wouldn't be able to see him anymore, then he says he actually went there to see Maxwell.
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Post by harryburrows on Dec 2, 2019 19:37:32 GMT
I haven’t got a clue wether he did or not. However he should have shown better judgement in the aftermath of Epstein’s release His arrogance at the privilege of his position doesn’t necessarily mean he’s guilty. It doesn't Mean he's guilty but it doesn't win him any friends in the court of public opinion where the royal family live or die .they will soon be having to survive without the Queen. Charlie and camellia aren't flavour of the month either. This is serious for the future Of the monarchy
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Post by trickydicky73 on Dec 2, 2019 19:51:36 GMT
Another cunt.
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Post by raythesailor on Dec 2, 2019 20:11:37 GMT
I have so much contempt for these people I will find something worth watching on catch up.
The highlights and exposure of this arrogant nobody will be on the telly tomorrow.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 2, 2019 20:48:54 GMT
I'm really surprised Virginia Giuffre hasn't been involved in an "accident" of some sort yet.
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Post by Mr_DaftBurger on Dec 2, 2019 23:28:30 GMT
It makes you wonder about the super rich and upper echelons of society. Disgusting.
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Post by steve66 on Dec 3, 2019 4:14:51 GMT
Double standards America, they saying he will be called on in the states to give evidence yet the woman who murdered a Brit over here in car accident can’t be extradited! A deal to be done here methinks..
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Post by lawrieleslie on Dec 3, 2019 7:37:19 GMT
Double standards America, they saying he will be called on in the states to give evidence yet the woman who murdered a Brit over here in car accident can’t be extradited! A deal to be done here methinks.. Murder is a bit harsh Steve. Manslaughter yes but not murder. I get your drift though.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 5, 2020 12:40:24 GMT
First mention of Ghislaine Maxwell in the media for a long time. Prince Andrew's friend Ghislaine Maxwell, the former lover of paedophile financier Jeffrey Epstein, is under 24-hour guard by former US Navy Seals amid fears for her life link
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Post by bigjohnritchie on Jan 9, 2020 21:59:48 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Jan 9, 2020 22:02:33 GMT
So many unfortunate coincidences. Not suspicious in any way though......
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Post by PotteringThrough on Jan 9, 2020 23:18:05 GMT
So many unfortunate coincidences. Not suspicious in any way though...... That jail needs to provide their staff with some robust internal training.
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Post by Northy on Jan 10, 2020 12:03:27 GMT
Pictures emerged yesterday of Bill Clinton on Epsteins plane, and on the steps going up with him and one of the young sex slaves, he had his arm around the waist in one picture and around the shoulder another
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Post by RichieBarkerOut! on Jan 10, 2020 16:45:55 GMT
Pictures emerged yesterday of Bill Clinton on Epsteins plane, and on the steps going up with him and one of the young sex slaves, he had his arm around the waist in one picture and around the shoulder another George Bush used to get completely wound up by Clinton as he could not understand how a lying draft dodger could beat him to the White House. The irony being that it happened again, but this time it was a Clinton getting the shit end of the stick.
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Post by serpico on Jan 27, 2020 17:36:12 GMT
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Post by bathstoke on Jan 27, 2020 18:06:12 GMT
Cheeky cnuts. Give us Anne Sacoolas & they can have the Duke of York...
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Post by serpico on Jan 27, 2020 20:04:46 GMT
whatever he does he's pretty screwed, if he refuses to cooperate he looks guilty, if he does cooperate he might end up getting convicted if the evidence is there.
i just watched the interview again and he's all over the place IE he says he wasn't that close to epstein yet felt the need to go over and break off the friendship in person and stay at his house for 3 days ?
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Post by richie22 on Jan 27, 2020 20:44:56 GMT
Why oh why after 2 weeks of blanket royal coverage on all media platforms for the’megsit’’ is this scandal seemingly creeping along very quietly, the same news editors should be running this and screaming it from the roof tops , fuck the free loading twat off to face some true justice . He got involved with a girl that he knew to of been trafficked for sex, he lived it up in a nonces apartment, he’s been proven to of lied .... fuck him off the twat.
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Post by JoeinOz on Jan 27, 2020 22:26:54 GMT
Why oh why after 2 weeks of blanket royal coverage on all media platforms for the’megsit’’ is this scandal seemingly creeping along very quietly, the same news editors should be running this and screaming it from the roof tops , fuck the free loading twat off to face some true justice . He got involved with a girl that he knew to of been trafficked for sex, he lived it up in a nonces apartment, he’s been proven to of lied .... fuck him off the twat. Because the media want to deflect attention away from Prince Andrew. The FBI want to interview him but will the queen allow it? You'd have to think not. Combine that with a Prime Minister who said the monarchy should be beyond reproach it all points one way.
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Post by redstriper on Jan 27, 2020 22:43:27 GMT
Anybody been watching the trail of Christine Keeler ? the parallels are amazing.
Virginia and Christine - similar ages and stories Epstein and stephen ward - similar motivations, similar "suicides" with the possibility of conspiracy Profumo and Prince Andrew - similar denials and resignations from public life Shadowy other famous people involved but kept out of the limelight by the establishment
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Post by Deleted on Jan 27, 2020 22:58:41 GMT
Why oh why after 2 weeks of blanket royal coverage on all media platforms for the’megsit’’ is this scandal seemingly creeping along very quietly, the same news editors should be running this and screaming it from the roof tops , fuck the free loading twat off to face some true justice . He got involved with a girl that he knew to of been trafficked for sex, he lived it up in a nonces apartment, he’s been proven to of lied .... fuck him off the twat. That's a really poor comment. Really vile stuff. Get a grip on history and put it into perspective. Andrew has not been convicted of anything. He's innocent until proven guilty. Now consider William II. He filled his courts with attractive young men. Never marrying and without children, he instead dressed his courtiers in pointed shoes and ordered they grow out their hair. He chose to promote based on performance in bed, rather than talent. And what of Richard I who allied with Philip II of France and “ate every day at the same table and from the same dish, and at night their beds did not separate them." Thus wrote Roger of Hovden, a chronicler who knew Richard personally. Then there is Edward II who was ‘wedded brothers’ with Piers Gaveston, the Earl of Cornwall. Henry VIII had six wives and fathered many illegitimate children in case you've forgotten! Charles II used to say “God will never damn a man for allowing himself a little pleasure." During his nine years of exile (when Oliver Cromwell ruled Britain), he had at least seventeen recorded mistresses. Edward VII was a serial womaniser. In 1870 there was a huge scandal caused by The Mordaunt Case when Sir Charles Mordaunt bought a divorce against his wife, and the Prince of Wales was subpoena’d. She confessed to having ‘done wrong’ with the Prince, and the man of letters, Sir Henry Ponsonby, commented, “London was black with the smoke of burnt confidential letters.” The list goes on. I am no particular supporter of Prince Andrew and utterly condemn sex trafficking. But put his situation into perspective and remember he has not been accused of anything. "His behaviour isn't as bad as his 12th century royal ancestor" is certainly a unique way of looking at it.......
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Post by lawrieleslie on Jan 27, 2020 23:16:56 GMT
Why oh why after 2 weeks of blanket royal coverage on all media platforms for the’megsit’’ is this scandal seemingly creeping along very quietly, the same news editors should be running this and screaming it from the roof tops , fuck the free loading twat off to face some true justice . He got involved with a girl that he knew to of been trafficked for sex, he lived it up in a nonces apartment, he’s been proven to of lied .... fuck him off the twat. That's a really poor comment. Really vile stuff. Get a grip on history and put it into perspective. Andrew has not been convicted of anything. He's innocent until proven guilty. Now consider William II. He filled his courts with attractive young men. Never marrying and without children, he instead dressed his courtiers in pointed shoes and ordered they grow out their hair. He chose to promote based on performance in bed, rather than talent. And what of Richard I who allied with Philip II of France and “ate every day at the same table and from the same dish, and at night their beds did not separate them." Thus wrote Roger of Hovden, a chronicler who knew Richard personally. Then there is Edward II who was ‘wedded brothers’ with Piers Gaveston, the Earl of Cornwall. Henry VIII had six wives and fathered many illegitimate children in case you've forgotten! Charles II used to say “God will never damn a man for allowing himself a little pleasure." During his nine years of exile (when Oliver Cromwell ruled Britain), he had at least seventeen recorded mistresses. Edward VII was a serial womaniser. In 1870 there was a huge scandal caused by The Mordaunt Case when Sir Charles Mordaunt bought a divorce against his wife, and the Prince of Wales was subpoena’d. She confessed to having ‘done wrong’ with the Prince, and the man of letters, Sir Henry Ponsonby, commented, “London was black with the smoke of burnt confidential letters.” The list goes on. I am no particular supporter of Prince Andrew and utterly condemn sex trafficking. But put his situation into perspective and remember he has not been accused of anything. First of all George thanks for the very informed history lesson. I would imagine 99.9% of posters on here are completely unaware of what you have explained. Back to Andrew though, you’re right he hasn’t been accused of anything. But doesn’t this make people think that he should then have nothing to fear in cooperating with the FBI. That’s what makes me very suspicious that he is afraid that he will be sucked into the whole mess of sex trafficking young girls. Bare in mind that this is very topical in UK at present with the trafficking of young and vulnerable girls by mainly Pakistani Muslims. There is no difference in my eyes whether you are black, white, Muslim, Christian, pauper, peasant, royalty or whatever.......trafficking of young girls as sex slaves is abhorrent.
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Post by serpico on Jan 27, 2020 23:39:18 GMT
He is innocent until proven guilty, but his performance in that interview makes it hard for me to think he didn't at least know what Epstein was up to, the guy had been convicted of sex offences with under age girls yet PA goes out there for 3 days to break off his friendship with him ?.. why not just simply not contact him anymore ? thats what i'd do if someone who i described as not being close to was outed as a paedo, simply don't contact them ever again...it doesn't stack up.
If he was clever he would say "well yes, Jeff was known as a ladies man and often women did come and go whilst i was staying at his house but i never saw any illegal activities" ... but he denies everything, even things he doesn't need to deny and is way too defensive.
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Post by bathstoke on Jan 28, 2020 6:41:05 GMT
Why oh why after 2 weeks of blanket royal coverage on all media platforms for the’megsit’’ is this scandal seemingly creeping along very quietly, the same news editors should be running this and screaming it from the roof tops , fuck the free loading twat off to face some true justice . He got involved with a girl that he knew to of been trafficked for sex, he lived it up in a nonces apartment, he’s been proven to of lied .... fuck him off the twat. Sir Henry Ponsonby You can’t be called Ponsonby & Sir, it’s just not right...
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Post by richie22 on Jan 28, 2020 10:05:28 GMT
Why oh why after 2 weeks of blanket royal coverage on all media platforms for the’megsit’’ is this scandal seemingly creeping along very quietly, the same news editors should be running this and screaming it from the roof tops , fuck the free loading twat off to face some true justice . He got involved with a girl that he knew to of been trafficked for sex, he lived it up in a nonces apartment, he’s been proven to of lied .... fuck him off the twat. That's a really poor comment. Really vile stuff. Get a grip on history and put it into perspective. Andrew has not been convicted of anything. He's innocent until proven guilty. Now consider William II. He filled his courts with attractive young men. Never marrying and without children, he instead dressed his courtiers in pointed shoes and ordered they grow out their hair. He chose to promote based on performance in bed, rather than talent. And what of Richard I who allied with Philip II of France and “ate every day at the same table and from the same dish, and at night their beds did not separate them." Thus wrote Roger of Hovden, a chronicler who knew Richard personally. Then there is Edward II who was ‘wedded brothers’ with Piers Gaveston, the Earl of Cornwall. Henry VIII had six wives and fathered many illegitimate children in case you've forgotten! Charles II used to say “God will never damn a man for allowing himself a little pleasure." During his nine years of exile (when Oliver Cromwell ruled Britain), he had at least seventeen recorded mistresses. Edward VII was a serial womaniser. In 1870 there was a huge scandal caused by The Mordaunt Case when Sir Charles Mordaunt bought a divorce against his wife, and the Prince of Wales was subpoena’d. She confessed to having ‘done wrong’ with the Prince, and the man of letters, Sir Henry Ponsonby, commented, “London was black with the smoke of burnt confidential letters.” The list goes on. I am no particular supporter of Prince Andrew and utterly condemn sex trafficking. But put his situation into perspective and remember he has not been accused of anything. so for some perspective the nearest bit of relevance you can put forward happened 150 years ago, and against that what Andrew has done isn’t that bad... granted he’s not been accused officially. But you and I know that by the established facts that are out there ( photos, pilots testimony, his own words regards meetings etc, and that shambolic interview) this man has guilty written all over him. Hopefully soon the fbi will get miss maxwell to give up her secrets then watch the deck of cards fall....
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Post by spitthedog on Jan 29, 2020 1:18:56 GMT
Notice the Daily Express are launching a massive propaganda offensive to support Andrew!!!
You can always bank on the Great British Establishment to rally around each other in time of need.
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Post by salopstick on Jan 29, 2020 6:52:16 GMT
That's a really poor comment. Really vile stuff. Get a grip on history and put it into perspective. Andrew has not been convicted of anything. He's innocent until proven guilty. Now consider William II. He filled his courts with attractive young men. Never marrying and without children, he instead dressed his courtiers in pointed shoes and ordered they grow out their hair. He chose to promote based on performance in bed, rather than talent. And what of Richard I who allied with Philip II of France and “ate every day at the same table and from the same dish, and at night their beds did not separate them." Thus wrote Roger of Hovden, a chronicler who knew Richard personally. Then there is Edward II who was ‘wedded brothers’ with Piers Gaveston, the Earl of Cornwall. Henry VIII had six wives and fathered many illegitimate children in case you've forgotten! Charles II used to say “God will never damn a man for allowing himself a little pleasure." During his nine years of exile (when Oliver Cromwell ruled Britain), he had at least seventeen recorded mistresses. Edward VII was a serial womaniser. In 1870 there was a huge scandal caused by The Mordaunt Case when Sir Charles Mordaunt bought a divorce against his wife, and the Prince of Wales was subpoena’d. She confessed to having ‘done wrong’ with the Prince, and the man of letters, Sir Henry Ponsonby, commented, “London was black with the smoke of burnt confidential letters.” The list goes on. I am no particular supporter of Prince Andrew and utterly condemn sex trafficking. But put his situation into perspective and remember he has not been accused of anything. so for some perspective the nearest bit of relevance you can put forward happened 150 years ago, and against that what Andrew has done isn’t that bad... granted he’s not been accused officially. But you and I know that by the established facts that are out there ( photos, pilots testimony, his own words regards meetings etc, and that shambolic interview) this man has guilty written all over him. Hopefully soon the fbi will get miss maxwell to give up her secrets then watch the deck of cards fall.... Shouldn’t the FBI concentrate on getting maxwell first. Regardless of wether Andrew is guilty or not it seems the FBI concentrate on him to keep the heat off everyone else
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