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Post by tommycarlsberg on Jan 14, 2022 12:48:00 GMT
But surely everybody should want to see somebody of unequivocal privilege brought to justice over something so heinous as abusing a minor? It’s not about whether you like the Royle family or not, it’s about knowing there’s a shred of hope for the every day person who does just want to get on with their life. It's getting more like a sitcom by the day. It is yeah, between that and No.10. And I’m sorry, I don’t think Andrew is a paedophile, these girls aren’t children, they’re almost women. It’s a power thing, as it was with Epstein. A disturbing fetish but not a neurological defect per se. The Queen must accept her institution enabled that.
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Post by Seymour Beaver on Jan 14, 2022 12:55:19 GMT
It's getting more like a sitcom by the day. It is yeah, between that and No.10. And I’m sorry, I don’t think Andrew is a paedophile, these girls aren’t children, they’re almost women. It’s a power thing, as it was with Epstein. A disturbing fetish but not a neurological defect per se. The Queen must accept her institution enabled that. Epstein pleaded guilty to and was convicted of procuring a 14 year old.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 14, 2022 12:57:49 GMT
It's getting more like a sitcom by the day. It is yeah, between that and No.10. And I’m sorry, I don’t think Andrew is a paedophile, these girls aren’t children, they’re almost women. It’s a power thing, as it was with Epstein. A disturbing fetish but not a neurological defect per se. The Queen must accept her institution enabled that. Absolutely. Not like she didn't know what she was doing at her age. He isn't a paedophile at all as you say , not even up for debate. All this, I'm so scarred but was happy to travel with Epstein and take gifts, money etc
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Post by flea79 on Jan 14, 2022 13:30:27 GMT
Absolute bollocks and you know it The legal age In this country is 16 Would I want a rather dry prince shagging a 17 year old relative on mine Would I fuck But it wouldn’t make him child molester Interestingly the age of consent in New York is seventeen In many states of America it’s 16 So it’s not the age it’s a argument about consent a child cannot give consent to be trafficked across the world and presented to rich and powerful people for sexual purposes, that is called child abuse children (that is under 18'S) are not able to consent to sex work i agree that if of her own free will she entered into a "relationship" with Andrew Windsor then there is no case to answer at all but it really isnt what has happened here a very wealthy man has taken these children and abused them and when he is done has sent them on there way with a few quid for the time, its clear what Epstein and no doubt others have been doing. interestingly in the maxwell case 8 other men are to be named as being part of the whole circle of abuse
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Post by Seymour Beaver on Jan 14, 2022 13:30:29 GMT
It is yeah, between that and No.10. And I’m sorry, I don’t think Andrew is a paedophile, these girls aren’t children, they’re almost women. It’s a power thing, as it was with Epstein. A disturbing fetish but not a neurological defect per se. The Queen must accept her institution enabled that. Absolutely. Not like she didn't know what she was doing at her age. He isn't a paedophile at all as you say , not even up for debate. All this, I'm so scarred but was happy to travel with Epstein and take gifts, money etc From 'The Cut' (A NY Magazine). "Investigations into Epstein began in 2005, after the parents of a 14-year-old girl told Palm Beach police that Epstein had molested their daughter at his home. According to the Miami Herald, by 2008, when Epstein was granted his now-infamous plea deal, federal prosecutors had identified 36 underage victims. Julie K. Brown, the Miami Herald journalist who published a series of articles on the allegations against Epstein, told the New York Times that early in the process of reporting, she received a heavily redacted police report that mentioned more than 100 Jane Does. In November 2018, Brown reported that the Herald had identified about 80 women who alleged that they were molested or sexually abused by Epstein between 2001 and 2006. Of these women, the Herald was able to locate around 60, eight of whom agreed to be interviewed. Wild, who first met Epstein in 2002, when she was 14, told the Herald that by the time she was 16, she “had probably brought him 70 to 80 girls who were all 14 and 15 years old.” Wild said that Epstein told her he wanted girls “as young as I could find them” and that “he wanted as many girls as I could get him. It was never enough.” Other witnesses have testified in civil court that hundreds of girls were brought to Epstein’s homes." Epstiein was a convicted paedophile - the case in his plea deal was that of a 14 year old - and this was the circle Andrew moved in for a considerable period of time. I have a theory that Guiffre might be the least of his (Andrew's) worries - despite being legally a 'child' at the time of the alleged event. Because if she is successful the idea that she was 'the only one' won't wash and the door will be open for others to follow.
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Post by andystokey on Jan 14, 2022 13:45:27 GMT
It would seem some haven't learned anything from Saville inquiry and the abuse of power.
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Post by tommycarlsberg on Jan 14, 2022 13:53:54 GMT
It is yeah, between that and No.10. And I’m sorry, I don’t think Andrew is a paedophile, these girls aren’t children, they’re almost women. It’s a power thing, as it was with Epstein. A disturbing fetish but not a neurological defect per se. The Queen must accept her institution enabled that. Absolutely. Not like she didn't know what she was doing at her age. He isn't a paedophile at all as you say , not even up for debate. All this, I'm so scarred but was happy to travel with Epstein and take gifts, money etc Woah, I’m not saying that at all. Teenagers are still vulnerable.
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Post by tommycarlsberg on Jan 14, 2022 13:55:59 GMT
It is yeah, between that and No.10. And I’m sorry, I don’t think Andrew is a paedophile, these girls aren’t children, they’re almost women. It’s a power thing, as it was with Epstein. A disturbing fetish but not a neurological defect per se. The Queen must accept her institution enabled that. Epstein pleaded guilty to and was convicted of procuring a 14 year old. I’m talking very young children but anyway, it’s a bit sick in itself us all speculating. Lock the cnut up and throw away the key.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 14, 2022 13:57:34 GMT
Absolutely. Not like she didn't know what she was doing at her age. He isn't a paedophile at all as you say , not even up for debate. All this, I'm so scarred but was happy to travel with Epstein and take gifts, money etc Woah, I’m not saying that at all. Teenagers are still vulnerable. Everyone is to a degree but I don't buy all this getting what you can then when he's dead or whatever looking for more.
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Post by tommycarlsberg on Jan 14, 2022 13:58:42 GMT
Woah, I’m not saying that at all. Teenagers are still vulnerable. Everyone is to a degree but I don't buy all this getting what you can then when he's dead or whatever looking for more. Comes back down to privilege though doesn’t it, British Royle Family is about as privileged as it gets.
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Post by lordb on Jan 14, 2022 14:32:36 GMT
Honorary (mainly Canadian) and centenary medals apparently. The big one to honour the Sultan of Brunei. The rest I guess from EBay . Just had a quick mosey, the Marines paid his school fees on the basis he completed the training but lasted 3 weeks. I imagine tough as hell but did they seriously expect him to manage it? By all accounts unlike Andrew Edwards supposed to be a lovely guy and a real gentleman. he was nothing but polite when Nello dropped in on him so what if he's a wimp that's not a crime, it was his dad who forced him to join the marines, mind numbingly stupid parenting
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Post by partickpotter on Jan 14, 2022 14:34:24 GMT
Everyone is to a degree but I don't buy all this getting what you can then when he's dead or whatever looking for more. Comes back down to privilege though doesn’t it, British Royle Family is about as privileged as it gets.
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Post by Seymour Beaver on Jan 14, 2022 14:48:48 GMT
By all accounts unlike Andrew Edwards supposed to be a lovely guy and a real gentleman. he was nothing but polite when Nello dropped in on him so what if he's a wimp that's not a crime, it was his dad who forced him to join the marines, mind numbingly stupid parenting I'm personally no fan of the monarchy nor is a friend of mine. However said friend was invited to a wedding as a guest of the groom where Sophie Wessex was a childhood friend of the bride and was at the wedding along with Edward. My friend declared them both, but Sophie in particular, to be charming, down to earth and enjoying themselves and were happy to blend in (as much as they reasonably could with two bodyguards lurking in the background) with the rest of the guests. Which even as a republican was nice to hear.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 14, 2022 14:55:36 GMT
By all accounts unlike Andrew Edwards supposed to be a lovely guy and a real gentleman. he was nothing but polite when Nello dropped in on him so what if he's a wimp that's not a crime, it was his dad who forced him to join the marines, mind numbingly stupid parenting No one called him a wimp or claimed he's not a nice guy to be fair.
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Post by dutchstokie on Jan 14, 2022 15:06:47 GMT
Absolute bollocks and you know it The legal age In this country is 16 Would I want a rather dry prince shagging a 17 year old relative on mine Would I fuck But it wouldn’t make him child molester Interestingly the age of consent in New York is seventeen In many states of America it’s 16 So it’s not the age it’s a argument about consent a child cannot give consent to be trafficked across the world and presented to rich and powerful people for sexual purposes, that is called child abuse children (that is under 18'S) are not able to consent to sex work i agree that if of her own free will she entered into a "relationship" with Andrew Windsor then there is no case to answer at all but it really isnt what has happened here a very wealthy man has taken these children and abused them and when he is done has sent them on there way with a few quid for the time, its clear what Epstein and no doubt others have been doing. interestingly in the maxwell case 8 other men are to be named as being part of the whole circle of abuse 8......?
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Post by flea79 on Jan 14, 2022 15:10:47 GMT
a child cannot give consent to be trafficked across the world and presented to rich and powerful people for sexual purposes, that is called child abuse children (that is under 18'S) are not able to consent to sex work i agree that if of her own free will she entered into a "relationship" with Andrew Windsor then there is no case to answer at all but it really isnt what has happened here a very wealthy man has taken these children and abused them and when he is done has sent them on there way with a few quid for the time, its clear what Epstein and no doubt others have been doing. interestingly in the maxwell case 8 other men are to be named as being part of the whole circle of abuse 8......? yes they were in sealed documents in a case that Andrews accuser has made against Maxwell, she has now asked that the judge unseal these as part of her case against andrew so i am guessing he is one of those named it might be that these persons are in a similar boat to Andrew regarding foolish behaviour and relationship with Epstein and Maxwell but it will be interesting to see who these people are!
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Post by dutchstokie on Jan 14, 2022 15:13:17 GMT
8......? yes they were in sealed documents in a case that Andrews accuser has made against Maxwell, she has now asked that the judge unseal these as part of her case against andrew so i am guessing he is one of those named it might be that these persons are in a similar boat to Andrew regarding foolish behaviour and relationship with Epstein and Maxwell but it will be interesting to see who these people are! Right...I'll gladly start the speculation and start the ball rolling with Trump. Hes got to be on the list shirley ? Anymore for anymore ?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 14, 2022 15:21:38 GMT
yes they were in sealed documents in a case that Andrews accuser has made against Maxwell, she has now asked that the judge unseal these as part of her case against andrew so i am guessing he is one of those named it might be that these persons are in a similar boat to Andrew regarding foolish behaviour and relationship with Epstein and Maxwell but it will be interesting to see who these people are! Right...I'll gladly start the speculation and start the ball rolling with Trump. Hes got to be on the list shirley ? Anymore for anymore ? Wasn't Bill Clinton rumoured or just speculation ? Failing him Radar from MASH
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Post by dutchstokie on Jan 14, 2022 15:24:27 GMT
Right...I'll gladly start the speculation and start the ball rolling with Trump. Hes got to be on the list shirley ? Anymore for anymore ? Wasn't Bill Clinton rumoured or just speculation ? Failing him Radar from MASH Bollocks to speculation...hes guilty - the dirty herbert. Right thats Trump and Clinton done with - who else?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 14, 2022 15:27:01 GMT
Wasn't Bill Clinton rumoured or just speculation ? Failing him Radar from MASH Bollocks to speculation...hes guilty - the dirty herbert. Right thats Trump and Clinton done with - who else? Poor Herbert. Guilty as sin
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Post by flea79 on Jan 14, 2022 17:20:23 GMT
Wasn't Bill Clinton rumoured or just speculation ? Failing him Radar from MASH Bollocks to speculation...hes guilty - the dirty herbert. Right thats Trump and Clinton done with - who else? the one i heard repeatedly was Tom Hanks
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Post by Deleted on Jan 14, 2022 19:54:42 GMT
Bollocks to speculation...hes guilty - the dirty herbert. Right thats Trump and Clinton done with - who else? the one i heard repeatedly was Tom Hanks Hope not. Epstein had a wide circle of celeb friends of course. Quite possible many associated had nothing to do with his shenanigans as many visited his island etc.
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Post by wrighter on Jan 14, 2022 20:33:42 GMT
the one i heard repeatedly was Tom Hanks Hope not. Epstein had a wide circle of celeb friends of course. Quite possible many associated had nothing to do with his shenanigans as many visited his island etc. Cant imagine Tom Hanks is embroiled in all of this. Has a great name in Hollywood, and with the general public, happily married for years Gutted if he is, one actor i really like
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Post by liathroid on Jan 14, 2022 20:34:30 GMT
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Post by metalhead on Jan 16, 2022 8:15:44 GMT
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Post by cobhamstokey on Jan 16, 2022 8:25:01 GMT
Isn’t he just known as the nonceness now
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Post by liathroid on Jan 16, 2022 19:16:40 GMT
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Post by metalhead on Jan 17, 2022 9:53:54 GMT
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Post by RichieBarkerOut! on Jan 17, 2022 22:15:14 GMT
8......? yes they were in sealed documents in a case that Andrews accuser has made against Maxwell, she has now asked that the judge unseal these as part of her case against andrew so i am guessing he is one of those named it might be that these persons are in a similar boat to Andrew regarding foolish behaviour and relationship with Epstein and Maxwell but it will be interesting to see who these people are! Maxwell has dropped her objection to having the docs unsealed... linkI wonder if this is what triggered the de-royaling?
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Post by flea79 on Jan 17, 2022 22:17:22 GMT
yes they were in sealed documents in a case that Andrews accuser has made against Maxwell, she has now asked that the judge unseal these as part of her case against andrew so i am guessing he is one of those named it might be that these persons are in a similar boat to Andrew regarding foolish behaviour and relationship with Epstein and Maxwell but it will be interesting to see who these people are! Maxwell has dropped her objection to having the docs unsealed... linkIt’s possible that these folk might be able to keep themselves away from this if they can show that publicly naming them doesn’t help with the case that is ongoing But I imagine there are some very nervous chaps about
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