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Post by zerps on Nov 13, 2019 18:36:36 GMT
They serve poison to kids. Their staff should be sent down.
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Post by zerps on Nov 13, 2019 18:40:48 GMT
Also, until we stop finding human excrement in McDonald’s ice cubes their staff should be sent down.
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Post by Pretty Little Boother on Nov 13, 2019 18:49:11 GMT
Corbyn is a fucking prick who`s answer to everything is chuck money at the problem. pay them £15.00 an hour and see how many Big macs they sell for £10.00 At £15.00 an hour folk will be queuing around the block to work there. rant over I suppose the McDonalds workers will just have to lump it then. Never own their own house, abused by private landlords, wearing coats so they don't have to have the heating on. yeah that's a Tory economy for you It's a starter job. It's not supposed to buy you a house.
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Post by crapslinger on Nov 13, 2019 19:11:59 GMT
How much per hour do you pay your employees ? How much per hour do you pay your employees ? Behave. Where do I get my figures from,you mean the costs of franchise? They are published in various business magazines we get posted through. I will make it easier for you and cover your embarrassment is it less than £15 per hour ?
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Post by crapslinger on Nov 13, 2019 19:13:53 GMT
I suppose the McDonalds workers will just have to lump it then. Never own their own house, abused by private landlords, wearing coats so they don't have to have the heating on. yeah that's a Tory economy for you It's a starter job. It's not supposed to buy you a house. Perhaps they could get a second job if they are looking to buy a house I did
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Post by crapslinger on Nov 13, 2019 19:18:14 GMT
Corbyn is a fucking prick who`s answer to everything is chuck money at the problem. pay them £15.00 an hour and see how many Big macs they sell for £10.00 At £15.00 an hour folk will be queuing around the block to work there. rant over I suppose the McDonalds workers will just have to lump it then. Never own their own house, abused by private landlords, wearing coats so they don't have to have the heating on. yeah that's a Tory economy for you I wonder what the situation is like for house buyers in the socialist utopia that is Venezuela ?
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Post by sheikhmomo on Nov 13, 2019 19:36:59 GMT
I suppose the McDonalds workers will just have to lump it then. Never own their own house, abused by private landlords, wearing coats so they don't have to have the heating on. yeah that's a Tory economy for you It's a starter job. It's not supposed to buy you a house. Does that go for all fast food and restaurant work?
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Post by JoeinOz on Nov 13, 2019 19:41:01 GMT
Anyone who actively stands up for their rights is a fucking thick traitor bastard and they should be rounded up like cattle and shot like pigs. This isn't standing up for rights, nobody has a right to £15 an hour. Aa stated elsewhere 15 quid is the starting point of negotiations. Also, it may seem an unjust demand, and to an extent I understand tbat. BUT it's nowhere near as unjust as thousands of people living in poverty in a wealthy nation like the UK. And this action is as much about that societal violation as it is anything else.
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Post by Pretty Little Boother on Nov 13, 2019 19:47:37 GMT
It's a starter job. It's not supposed to buy you a house. Does that go for all fast food and restaurant work? Yes, they're low skill jobs that should be approached as a tool to help you whilst you acquire new skills or develop yourself into a more attractive prospect, as a short-term stopgap or on a supplementary basis to a primary salary. They should absolutely not be taken as an end-result, long-term career. They're being misused if that's how people are using them.
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Post by crapslinger on Nov 13, 2019 19:49:49 GMT
This isn't standing up for rights, nobody has a right to £15 an hour. Aa stated elsewhere 15 quid is the starting point of negotiations. Also, it may seem an unjust demand, and to an extent I understand tbat. BUT it's nowhere near as unjust as thousands of people living in poverty in a wealthy nation like the UK. And this action is as much about that societal violation as it is anything else. Do MaccyD's workers in Oz get paid the equivalent of £15 an hour Joe ?, are there many people living in poverty in Oz Joe or is it just the Aborigines ?
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Post by sheikhmomo on Nov 13, 2019 19:50:09 GMT
Does that go for all fast food and restaurant work? Yes, they're low skill jobs that should be approached as a tool to help you whilst you acquire new skills or develop yourself into a more attractive prospect, as a short-term stopgap or on a supplementary basis to a primary salary. They should absolutely not be taken as an end-result, long-term career. They're being misused if that's how people are using them. What type of jobs should they train and aspire to that are abundantly available?
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Post by dirtygary69 on Nov 13, 2019 19:51:52 GMT
I’ll always be of the opinion that most people are way closer to being poor than they ever are to being rich so if those at the bottom of the wage ladder want to fight for more then good on them. Never mind all this about nurses and whoever else earn, that isn’t for McDonalds staff to sort out. We’re all just one job loss away from having to work at places like McDonalds so good fucking luck to them.
They aren’t going to get £15 an hour but if it helps them get a little bit more and makes their lives easier then I’m all for it. Why do they only ‘deserve’ a minimum wage that is set dangerously low by the government? If they stand up for themselves then it might help others in the same situation too.
The propaganda machine is in full flow. Report that low earners and the jobless are the enemy of the people and they will start to believe it. Your ire should be aimed at those who set these minimum wage levels and those who work in jobs where they are criminally overpaid. Not young kids, single parents or desperate people looking to earn what money they can.
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Post by Pretty Little Boother on Nov 13, 2019 19:52:02 GMT
I'll also say that I'm all in favour of Unions and industrial action to negotiate better conditions, and fair play to them for trying this.
It'll hurt them in the long run, though. It will, absolutely will, bite them in the arse in the long run.
The minimum wage is a moronic idea though and needs scrapping.
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Post by Pretty Little Boother on Nov 13, 2019 19:55:43 GMT
Yes, they're low skill jobs that should be approached as a tool to help you whilst you acquire new skills or develop yourself into a more attractive prospect, as a short-term stopgap or on a supplementary basis to a primary salary. They should absolutely not be taken as an end-result, long-term career. They're being misused if that's how people are using them. What type of jobs should they train and aspire to that are abundantly available? Whatever they want, if they want something enough they will get themselves qualified to do it. Public or private sector, creating their own business, even getting promoted through the ranks of whatever fast food company they are working for. If this has the knock-on effect of making people more reluctant to settle for a Maccies job for life, then the response will be for Maccies to improve the packages that they offer staff anyway.
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Post by crapslinger on Nov 13, 2019 19:57:01 GMT
Does that go for all fast food and restaurant work? Yes, they're low skill jobs that should be approached as a tool to help you whilst you acquire new skills or develop yourself into a more attractive prospect, as a short-term stopgap or on a supplementary basis to a primary salary. They should absolutely not be taken as an end-result, long-term career. They're being misused if that's how people are using them. The dealings I had with MC D's were quite positive when working in recruitment, they do have very good training programmes for those looking to progress within the company including the opportunity for relocating abroad, of the franchised stores a good majority are owned and or managed by ex McD's employees who have worked their way up, the reputation is formed on individuals working part time many as a supplement for other earnings or their partners have full time employment, there is no way that at entry level they should be contemplating earning £15 per hour why would they ?
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Post by crapslinger on Nov 13, 2019 20:04:33 GMT
I’ll always be of the opinion that most people are way closer to being poor than they ever are to being rich so if those at the bottom of the wage ladder want to fight for more then good on them. Never mind all this about nurses and whoever else earn, that isn’t for McDonalds staff to sort out. We’re all just one job loss away from having to work at places like McDonalds so good fucking luck to them. They aren’t going to get £15 an hour but if it helps them get a little bit more and makes their lives easier then I’m all for it. Why do they only ‘deserve’ a minimum wage that is set dangerously low by the government? If they stand up for themselves then it might help others in the same situation too. The propaganda machine is in full flow. Report that low earners and the jobless are the enemy of the people and they will start to believe it. Your ire should be aimed at those who set these minimum wage levels and those who work in jobs where they are criminally overpaid. Not young kids, single parents or desperate people looking to earn what money they can. Who brought in the NMW ?
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Post by The battheader chronicles on Nov 13, 2019 20:09:38 GMT
They are demanding £15 an hour! Corbyn is a fucking prick who`s answer to everything is chuck money at the problem. pay them £15.00 an hour and see how many Big macs they sell for £10.00 At £15.00 an hour folk will be queuing around the block to work there. rant over Not somewhere I’d go particularly but I really wouldn’t mind paying a bit more eating out if it meant the staff at the place I was eating were able to make rent. The systems fucked the vulnerable for the last 10 years, if they think they can get £15ph from a very profitable multinational good on em The exact arguments you make above where used against any form of NMW and that worked out ok Also calling someone a fucking prick as your opening gambit just seems a bit unnecessary
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Post by henry on Nov 13, 2019 20:41:02 GMT
Does that go for all fast food and restaurant work? Yes, they're low skill jobs that should be approached as a tool to help you whilst you acquire new skills or develop yourself into a more attractive prospect, as a short-term stopgap or on a supplementary basis to a primary salary. They should absolutely not be taken as an end-result, long-term career. They're being misused if that's how people are using them. At £15 per hour it will be the go to job for school and college leavers. Who needs to learn a skill or a trade that pays the same.
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Post by Pretty Little Boother on Nov 13, 2019 20:54:45 GMT
Yes, they're low skill jobs that should be approached as a tool to help you whilst you acquire new skills or develop yourself into a more attractive prospect, as a short-term stopgap or on a supplementary basis to a primary salary. They should absolutely not be taken as an end-result, long-term career. They're being misused if that's how people are using them. At £15 per hour it will be the go to job for school and college leavers. Who needs to learn a skill or a trade that pays the same. All similar companies raise their pay to achieve parity, all basic costs of living go up to account for this, the raise is rendered totally pointless as it's soaked up in all amenities, services and product costs... The process begins again...
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Post by GrahamHyde on Nov 13, 2019 20:58:37 GMT
£15 an hour! McDeluded - Both the workers and Corbyn. The world think the same about us in relation to our Brexit negotiations.
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Post by chigstoke on Nov 13, 2019 21:20:56 GMT
£15 an hour! McDeluded - Both the workers and Corbyn. McDeluded describes any poster on this forum who thought Rafa Benitez was a viable managerial candidate for bottom of the league Stoke City. As for the maccies workers, good luck to them. It's the same process as negotiating a better price for say, your cars part exchange as an example. You always start off high and work your way to an acceptable offer for both parties. In this I think the workers most certainly know they will not get £15 an hour, but it's better to battle down than to battle up. If that's means they get a couple quid an hour extra, well done to them. Challenge these big corporations who take the piss. Unfortunately what we'll see at McD's is till assistants being got rid of completely and more touchscreens being installed. And it would not surprise me if they cut cooking staff down too to save on the extra wages they're paying. It's probably going not going to cost McD's a penny, or very little. It's positive action but it's going to result in new job losses for some of these people unfortunately.
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Post by serpico on Nov 13, 2019 21:30:27 GMT
This isn't standing up for rights, nobody has a right to £15 an hour. Aa stated elsewhere 15 quid is the starting point of negotiations. Also, it may seem an unjust demand, and to an extent I understand tbat. BUT it's nowhere near as unjust as thousands of people living in poverty in a wealthy nation like the UK. And this action is as much about that societal violation as it is anything else. They have every right to demand higher wages, but it's not a right per-se, everyone has the right to ask for a pay rise but you can't compel a business by force to pay higher wages than the minimum wage. As has been mentioned, you're just going to destroy entry level jobs for young people and then there will be more of them on minimum wage, £0 an hour for watching kilroy every day, this is what ive been saying about labour, their "we're for the little guy" policies have a paradoxical effect, Labour will create more poverty in time, it may take a few years to properly show up, but it will show up eventually, the private sector will shrink and more people will work for the state, or be dependent on it and eventually it will fall under its own weight.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 13, 2019 22:44:18 GMT
Good luck to them. Worrying trend of people hating the idea of someone else getting something good.
Hope they get it and it is the start of wage increases for all low paid work to a living wage.
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Post by eddyclamp on Nov 14, 2019 10:07:55 GMT
Corbyn is a fucking prick who`s answer to everything is chuck money at the problem. pay them £15.00 an hour and see how many Big macs they sell for £10.00 At £15.00 an hour folk will be queuing around the block to work there. rant over Not somewhere I’d go particularly but I really wouldn’t mind paying a bit more eating out if it meant the staff at the place I was eating were able to make rent. The systems fucked the vulnerable for the last 10 years, if they think they can get £15ph from a very profitable multinational good on em The exact arguments you make above where used against any form of NMW and that worked out ok Also calling someone a fucking prick as your opening gambit just seems a bit unnecessary Sorry ,it`s just how I see it. By the way, I think there are a lot of people in his own party who think the same but keep their heads down
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Post by The Drunken Communist on Nov 14, 2019 10:28:46 GMT
Worrying trend of people hating the idea of someone else getting something good. Having read plenty of your posts on here in recent months, the fact you've said this without the slightest hint of irony is hilarious!
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Post by Kilo on Nov 14, 2019 10:37:06 GMT
Good luck to them. Worrying trend of people hating the idea of someone else getting something good. Hope they get it and it is the start of wage increases for all low paid work to a living wage. It's got bugger all to do with not wanting others to get something good, it's about economics.
People go to McDonalds because they can get a cheesburger for a pound. If you start paying everybody £30K a year to move said cheesburger from a shelf behind to a tray on the counter their whole business model is fucked and the company will fail.
I'm all for that as I think their food is shite but even poor people need a cheap place to eat out and I wouldn't want all those poor people sitting at the next table to me in Claridges
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Post by Deleted on Nov 14, 2019 12:38:42 GMT
Worrying trend of people hating the idea of someone else getting something good. Having read plenty of your posts on here in recent months, the fact you've said this without the slightest hint of irony is hilarious! It's obvious really, 'something good' meaning a wage they can live on, not billions of pounds hoarded. Mcdonalds workers earning £15 ph, thw same wage as in Denmark, hurts noone else. Billionaires hoarding money do hurt others.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 14, 2019 12:39:17 GMT
Good luck to them. Worrying trend of people hating the idea of someone else getting something good. Hope they get it and it is the start of wage increases for all low paid work to a living wage. It's got bugger all to do with not wanting others to get something good, it's about economics.
People go to McDonalds because they can get a cheesburger for a pound. If you start paying everybody £30K a year to move said cheesburger from a shelf behind to a tray on the counter their whole business model is fucked and the company will fail.
I'm all for that as I think their food is shite but even poor people need a cheap place to eat out and I wouldn't want all those poor people sitting at the next table to me in Claridges Why is it done in Denmark then? They pay equivalent of £15ph there the company hasnt failed
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Post by foster on Nov 14, 2019 12:45:45 GMT
It's got bugger all to do with not wanting others to get something good, it's about economics. People go to McDonalds because they can get a cheesburger for a pound. If you start paying everybody £30K a year to move said cheesburger from a shelf behind to a tray on the counter their whole business model is fucked and the company will fail. I'm all for that as I think their food is shite but even poor people need a cheap place to eat out and I wouldn't want all those poor people sitting at the next table to me in Claridges Why is it done in Denmark then? They pay equivalent of £15ph there the company hasnt failed Have you ever seen what the cost of living in Denmark is compared to here?
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Post by crapslinger on Nov 14, 2019 12:51:50 GMT
Why is it done in Denmark then? They pay equivalent of £15ph there the company hasnt failed Have you ever seen what the cost of living in Denmark is compared to here? Don't confuse him FFS. beautiful country by the way but very expensive to visit.
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