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Post by bloodtypered on Nov 2, 2019 10:50:09 GMT
He had to go, he knew that too, but if things had gone his way .. shawcross, and some players playing for him etc.......he would have been a great passionate manager for Stoke
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Nov 2, 2019 10:51:14 GMT
It’s a shame, he may well prove to be a good manager for someone else, but he really only has himself to blame.
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Post by nott1 on Nov 2, 2019 10:52:31 GMT
Oh dear never mind what a shame.......and good riddance.
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on Nov 2, 2019 10:53:54 GMT
Make no mistake we’ve a board that can make this worse for us , for Nathan dust yourself down and move on .
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Post by DentySCFC on Nov 2, 2019 10:56:22 GMT
Tra Nath, you promised so much but in reality you were absolutely useless, saddled the club with rubbish you didn’t even play and have set the club on course for 10,000 gates and even more misery in League One.
Good luck my arse.
P38 W6 D15 L17
An absolute disaster.
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Post by GreaterGlasgowstokie on Nov 2, 2019 10:58:03 GMT
He definitely cared and it definitely affected him. He messed up in the summer window.
I wish him well.
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Post by sheikhmomo on Nov 2, 2019 11:01:11 GMT
Good luck my arse. P38 W6 D15 L17 An absolute disaster. My thoughts exactly. Good riddance.
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Post by future100 on Nov 2, 2019 11:03:52 GMT
He had to go, he knew that too, but if things had gone his way .. shawcross, and some players playing for him etc.......he would have been a great passionate manager for Stoke What evidence was there that he would ever turn into a great manager, terrible signings, stuck with a system that none of his signings or existing players could cope with, no goal threat despite throwing 9 million at a striker just playing out the end of his career. The distinction of having the worst record of any Stoke manager in living memory.
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Post by Cast no shadow on Nov 2, 2019 11:05:17 GMT
He'll be banging his chest elsewhere by Easter. He's made us considerably worse and left us with even more shite players whilst picking up a massive wage.
Good riddance
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Post by crapslinger on Nov 2, 2019 11:06:44 GMT
Shocking manager, promised the earth and delivered absolute shit all the best my arse.
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Post by heworksardtho on Nov 2, 2019 11:08:58 GMT
Thanks for leaving us with this pile of shit
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Post by Deleted on Nov 2, 2019 11:11:32 GMT
Those slating him should blame the board not the manager.
hes nearly worked himself into a grave giving his all
Alas it seems what he had wasnt good enough
It always looked a massive gamble....that's down to john coates etc
Give jones a break
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Post by zerps on Nov 2, 2019 11:16:56 GMT
Oh dear never mind what a shame.......and good riddance. The best thing he did was get rid of Bojan
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Post by wuzza on Nov 2, 2019 11:17:45 GMT
While I have misgivings about his approach to the job you have to admit the bloke had little or no luck in his time here.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 2, 2019 11:19:23 GMT
Earnt probably over a million quid for being wank.
Hopefully he will never manage again.
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Nov 2, 2019 11:19:40 GMT
Those slating him should blame the board not the manager. hes nearly worked himself into a grave giving his all Alas it seems what he had wasnt good enough It always looked a massive gamble....that's down to john coates etc Give jones a break Did the board make him chop and change the team every week? Did the board make him abandon the system he’d spent the entire summer preparing for and eulogising about? Did the board make him sign Jordan Cousins as our DM, ignore the left back situation and spend £4m on a player who now looks to be our third choice right back? Did the board make him sign players who he barely used?
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Post by Olgrligm on Nov 2, 2019 11:22:52 GMT
We will regret not giving him time to bring the project to fruition.
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Nov 2, 2019 11:24:01 GMT
We will regret not giving him time to bring the project to fruition. What project MD? The one he himself lost faith in every week? The one that by the time he left seemed to have fewer pieces of the puzzle in place than when he arrived?
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Post by scfcbiancorossi on Nov 2, 2019 11:25:59 GMT
We will regret not giving him time to bring the project to fruition. What project MD? The one he himself lost faith in every week? The one that by the time he left seemed to have fewer pieces of the puzzle in place than when he arrived? The one that relied on pace and yet produced one of the slowest sides in Stoke City history.
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Post by iglugluk on Nov 2, 2019 11:29:23 GMT
I'm conflicted about him ( well slightly anyway ). I know he cared and tried but after such poor transfer business over the summer it's very hard to see what was in his mind in respect of s plan. He was clearly a snake oil salesman as none of what he promised happened in any way at all. He hasleft us in an even bigger mess than we were in when he arrived. With a team of what appear to be disinterested rejects and what appears to be zero morale. Let's face it his tenure was a total disaster.
All that said, however, I bear him no enmity, unlike Hughes who I now dislike intensely.
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Post by DentySCFC on Nov 2, 2019 11:29:38 GMT
While I have misgivings about his approach to the job you have to admit the bloke had little or no luck in his time here. Bollocks to luck, he was rubbish. Shoehorning an aging, largely shit LW at LB - persists with him there for games on end despite all our goals conceded coming down that flank. Despite Butland chucking them in his net every game, only dropping him after 4 matches then inexplicably dropping Federici and putting him back in goal for the Bristol City, Brentford and Forest games. Failing to sign “young, athletic players” particularly in the full back positions to play his beloved diamond formation. The constant changing (5/6 changes every game) of personnel. The constant changing of formation game-to-game and even in-game - 4-1-2-1-2 to 5-1-2-1-1 to 4-1-4-1 to 4-3-3. The signing of Jordan Cousins because he was top drawer at Charlton U18s, 5 years ago. The signings of Davies, Powell, Ward, Vokes, Smith and Duffy. The signing of the second coming of Steven Tweed - Liam Lindsay. Nathan Jones’ downfall has nothing to do with luck, it was because he was out of his depth the day he walked through the door.
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Post by shipshape on Nov 2, 2019 11:29:50 GMT
Those slating him should blame the board not the manager. hes nearly worked himself into a grave giving his all Alas it seems what he had wasnt good enough It always looked a massive gamble....that's down to john coates etc Give jones a break Did the board make him chop and change the team every week? Did the board make him abandon the system he’d spent the entire summer preparing for and eulogising about? Did the board make him sign Jordan Cousins as our DM, ignore the left back situation and spend £4m on a player who now looks to be our third choice right back? Did the board make him sign players who he barely used? No they didn't. But having seen him do all those things, they dithered and dithered and dithered some more before acting. Even this week, why have they waited until Friday to act?
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Nov 2, 2019 11:30:35 GMT
Did the board make him chop and change the team every week? Did the board make him abandon the system he’d spent the entire summer preparing for and eulogising about? Did the board make him sign Jordan Cousins as our DM, ignore the left back situation and spend £4m on a player who now looks to be our third choice right back? Did the board make him sign players who he barely used? No they didn't. But having seen him do all those things, the dithered and dithered and dithered some more before acting. Even this week, why have they waited until Friday to act? I agree completely.
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Post by Squeekster on Nov 2, 2019 11:31:08 GMT
While I have misgivings about his approach to the job you have to admit the bloke had little or no luck in his time here. Yes we could have another 7-10 points barring player mistakes and bad luck, that said he didn't help himself with tactics and team selection, or the transfer market.
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Post by iglugluk on Nov 2, 2019 11:37:02 GMT
While I have misgivings about his approach to the job you have to admit the bloke had little or no luck in his time here. Yes we could have another 7-10 points barring player mistakes and bad luck, that said he didn't help himself with tactics and team selection, or the transfer market. ...... and that's you putting it kindly.
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Post by wuzza on Nov 2, 2019 11:40:56 GMT
While I have misgivings about his approach to the job you have to admit the bloke had little or no luck in his time here. Bollocks to luck, he was rubbish. Shoehorning an aging, largely shit LW at LB - persists with him there for games on end despite all our goals conceded coming down that flank. Despite Butland chucking them in his net every game, only dropping him after 4 matches then inexplicably dropping Federici and putting him back in goal for the Bristol City, Brentford and Forest games. Failing to sign “young, athletic players” particularly in the full back positions to play his beloved diamond formation. The constant changing (5/6 changes every game) of personnel. The constant changing of formation game-to-game and even in-game - 4-1-2-1-2 to 5-1-2-1-1 to 4-1-4-1 to 4-3-3. The signing of Jordan Cousins because he was top drawer at Charlton U18s, 5 years ago. The signings of Davies, Powell, Ward, Vokes, Smith and Duffy. The signing of the second coming of Steven Tweed - Liam Lindsay. Nathan Jones’ downfall has nothing to do with luck, it was because he was out of his depth the day he walked through the door. Wouldn’t disagree with much of that but I would still maintain that every break that could have gone his way during games absolutely didn’t.
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Post by kidcrewbob on Nov 2, 2019 11:49:42 GMT
Enjoy your cash you charlatan......
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Post by Olgrligm on Nov 2, 2019 11:51:16 GMT
We will regret not giving him time to bring the project to fruition. What project MD? The one he himself lost faith in every week? The one that by the time he left seemed to have fewer pieces of the puzzle in place than when he arrived? The one that was clearly still a work in progress, so far as I could see. I'd say it was fairly obvious that, even without apportioning blame, things didn't really go to plan this summer and that it was going to require a few transfer windows to really get things together. Nobody would deny that he made mistakes, especially when he panicked and ditched the diamond earlier in the season, but he was a long term investment. It was supposed to be a long term culture change, and that doesn't happen overnight.
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Post by robrigo on Nov 2, 2019 11:55:02 GMT
One of, if not the worst manager in our history.
He may well have consigned us to another relegation, so I’m glad he’s gone. I’m infuriated with our board for dithering again and hope that the new man has enough time to sort this shit storm out.
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Post by iancransonsknees on Nov 2, 2019 11:56:16 GMT
More incompetent than Kamara and more self aggrandising than Cotterill I never expected to see. Absolutely, utterly useless as a football manager and unlikeable as an individual. The fact that fans still 'feel' for him and were prepared to back him says a lot about our support now.
20 years ago there'd have been more than one pitch invasion during his tenure. He's gotten off incredibly lightly.
If somebody comes in and pulls off a miracle by keeping us up it should be viewed as the equivalent to a promotion and the manager lauded accordingly.
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