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Post by AlbertTatlock on Oct 1, 2019 23:03:43 GMT
Why? They tried an up an coming young manager with Rowett but it didn’t work out, with Rowett talking himself out of a job, they then went for another up and coming young manager that was hungry for success with a good although not long managerial record, he came with the promise of a new attacking attractive style of football. He’s tried his best but alas it’s just not good enough. The owners have given him time to turn things around and he can’t, so it’s back to the drawing board and back to fishing in a pool of managers that have a mixed bag of success behind them. Who they’ll go for is anyone’s guess at the moment; will they go with the cheapest option or pay what’s needed to land the right man for the job? Gouranga.  |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 1, 2019 23:04:46 GMT
Because they are clueless idiots who I wouldn't trust to run me a bath, never mind a football club.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 1, 2019 23:05:43 GMT
They haven’t sacked him yet.
If they do, I’m sure people will go easy on the board.
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Post by prudhoessafehands on Oct 1, 2019 23:06:21 GMT
Because they are clueless idiots who I wouldn't trust to run me a bath, never mind a football club. Yeah lets fuck em off then and cross our fingers that we don't become the next Bury or Bolton  |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Oct 1, 2019 23:07:03 GMT
Because they’re shite?
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Post by AlbertTatlock on Oct 1, 2019 23:07:56 GMT
Because they are clueless idiots who I wouldn't trust to run me a bath, never mind a football club. Were you saying this when we were promoted and spent 10 years in the premiership trouncing some of the best teams in Europe, getting to an FA cup final and into Europe whilst watching some of the best players ever to wear a Stoke shirt? We can't have it both ways. Gouranga. |
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Post by Paul Spencer on Oct 1, 2019 23:10:47 GMT
Because they are clueless idiots who I wouldn't trust to run me a bath, never mind a football club. Were you saying this when we were promoted and spent 10 years in the premiership trouncing some of the best teams in Europe, getting to an FA cup final and into Europe whilst watching some of the best players ever to wear a Stoke shirt? We can't have it both ways.Gouranga. Well you're arguing against yourself now Albert. If they're going to take the praise when things are going well, then they're certainly going to take the criticism when it isn't. As you say ... you can't have it both ways. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 1, 2019 23:10:55 GMT
Because they are clueless idiots who I wouldn't trust to run me a bath, never mind a football club. Yeah lets fuck em off then and cross our fingers that we don't become the next Bury or Bolton Yeah because every football club that doesn't have the Coates family in charge of them goes under doesn't it. |
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Post by rawli on Oct 1, 2019 23:11:14 GMT
Why? They tried an up an coming young manager with Rowett but it didn’t work out, with Rowett talking himself out of a job, they then went for another up and coming young manager that was hungry for success with a good although not long managerial record, he came with the promise of a new attacking attractive style of football. He’s tried his best but alas it’s just not good enough. The owners have given him time to turn things around and he can’t, so it’s back to the drawing board and back to fishing in a pool of managers that have a mixed bag of success behind them. Who they’ll go for is anyone’s guess at the moment; will they go with the cheapest option or pay what’s needed to land the right man for the job? Gouranga. Because we were promised root and branch reform after relegaton and they didn't deliver it. Because their strategy has led us from being a safe and secure premier league team to a club staring into the abyss of division 1 football. Because they dither over every single decision and kid themselves they are just being loyal. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 1, 2019 23:12:59 GMT
Because they are clueless idiots who I wouldn't trust to run me a bath, never mind a football club. Were you saying this when we were promoted and spent 10 years in the premiership trouncing some of the best teams in Europe, getting to an FA cup final and into Europe whilst watching some of the best players ever to wear a Stoke shirt? We can't have it both ways. Gouranga. Obviously not, but I've been calling them out for a long time now, well pretty much ever since they started to run the football club like an absolute shit show anyway. |
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Post by prudhoessafehands on Oct 1, 2019 23:17:11 GMT
Yeah lets fuck em off then and cross our fingers that we don't become the next Bury or Bolton Yeah because every football club that doesn't have the Coates family in charge of them goes under doesn't it. No they dont..Neither do they all have the financial clout to pay the sort of wages our current shower of shit players are earning...I say earning i mean Stealing. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 1, 2019 23:19:26 GMT
Yeah because every football club that doesn't have the Coates family in charge of them goes under doesn't it. No they dont..Neither do they all have the financial clout to pay the sort of wages our current shower of shit players are earning. So you agree with me then? You must do, because handing out ridiculous contracts to the wrong types of players is one of their biggest failings. |
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Post by Gary Hackett on Oct 1, 2019 23:20:15 GMT
Because their choice of managers has been an absolute disgrace.
Lambert, Rowett and Jones were all wrong for different reasons.
The board needs to get a proper football person in before they make any more bad decisions.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 1, 2019 23:21:20 GMT
You've forgot about the Hughes and Lambert bit you monumental prick.
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Post by standbutler1 on Oct 1, 2019 23:25:18 GMT
Might be because they are prem supporters and have no history with stoke.
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Post by prudhoessafehands on Oct 1, 2019 23:26:09 GMT
No they dont..Neither do they all have the financial clout to pay the sort of wages our current shower of shit players are earning. So you agree with me then? You must do, because handing out ridiculous contracts to the wrong types of players is one of their biggest failings. No i dont agree..Have they made mistakes? yes of course but its not the owners who handed out the contracts is it Vega? They (im assuming) left that to Scholes/Cartwright. They've fucked up in that sense and they've got to be aware of the recruitment issues after the diabolical signings of Wimmer,Berahino etc but i dont personnally get where all the Vitriol comes from.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 1, 2019 23:28:01 GMT
So you agree with me then? You must do, because handing out ridiculous contracts to the wrong types of players is one of their biggest failings. No i dont agree..Have they made mistakes? yes of course but its not the owners who handed out the contracts is it Vega? They (im assuming) left that to Scholes/Cartwright. They've fucked up in that sense and they've got to be aware of the recruitment issues after the diabolical signings of Wimmer,Berahino etc but i dont personnally get where all the Vitriol comes from.
To be honest I've not seen this vitriol that you speak of. In fact, they've been getting off lightly considering how they've overseen and are still overseeing the biggest clusterfuck in our history. |
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Post by 19notbeaten72 on Oct 1, 2019 23:31:48 GMT
Why? They tried an up an coming young manager with Rowett but it didn’t work out, with Rowett talking himself out of a job, they then went for another up and coming young manager that was hungry for success with a good although not long managerial record, he came with the promise of a new attacking attractive style of football. He’s tried his best but alas it’s just not good enough. The owners have given him time to turn things around and he can’t, so it’s back to the drawing board and back to fishing in a pool of managers that have a mixed bag of success behind them. Who they’ll go for is anyone’s guess at the moment; will they go with the cheapest option or pay what’s needed to land the right man for the job? Gouranga. 8-)Do you need reminding that the owners have overseen 3 probably 4 years of decline & got it wrong at every turn Hughes left in charge far to long Lambert given the task of saving our skin after 3 other managers of better calibre turn us down for 1 reason or another. After that its been a complete shambles which is probably going to see us back in league 1 next season. The buck stops at the top the Coates family employ the ceo & everyone else below him perhaps that is why there is a lot of bad feeling towards the owners. |
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Post by generationex on Oct 1, 2019 23:42:41 GMT
Yeah lets fuck em off then and cross our fingers that we don't become the next Bury or Bolton Yeah because every football club that doesn't have the Coates family in charge of them goes under doesn't it. No just every football club from Stoke. |
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Post by prudhoessafehands on Oct 1, 2019 23:43:24 GMT
Ive seen Players like Shaq,Arnie.Ric..Nzonzi..Crouchy,i could go on that these owners sanctioned the fee and wages for,am i happy at the minute with the way the club is going? No way it's shite.
but ive also got to remember also WHAT Coates has done for our club,im hoping and praying that the next managerial appointment is the right one.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 1, 2019 23:57:24 GMT
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Post by expectedtoulouse on Oct 1, 2019 23:58:57 GMT
It seems like they’re trying to run the club in to the ground to be perfectly honest. They frittered away our Premier League status far far too easily and pretty much every action since has been mind blowing.
The transfer spending is the most alarming issue. They gave away our Premier League status and the massive revenue stream that comes with it. Since then, on a fraction of the revenue, they’ve sanctioned ruinous spending on ridiculous signings. The club have spent heaps of cash on players who are worse than the players the club already had on long or expensive contracts. The bus load of players recruited in the summer and the trashing of the assets it wanted rid of was ridiculous.
We’re now plummeting towards League 1 with no sign of any change, the Chairman with his head in the clouds and the Vice Chairman still trying to string a coherent sentence together.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Oct 1, 2019 23:59:36 GMT
Ive seen Players like Shaq,Arnie.Ric..Nzonzi..Crouchy,i could go on that these owners sanctioned the fee and wages for,am i happy at the minute with the way the club is going? No way it's shite. but ive also got to remember also WHAT Coates has done for our club,im hoping and praying that the next managerial appointment is the right one. Crouch is one of their biggest mistakes. |
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Post by mermaidsal on Oct 2, 2019 0:02:39 GMT
for me it's specific. everything I've heard says John Coates is a really good bloke but since he's been principally holding the reins, every single decision seems to have been wrong, or else like removing Cartwright and presumably now Jones has come disastrously too late. he can't do this. he just doesn't have the right instincts for the job. sorry  |
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Post by prudhoessafehands on Oct 2, 2019 0:04:55 GMT
Ive seen Players like Shaq,Arnie.Ric..Nzonzi..Crouchy,i could go on that these owners sanctioned the fee and wages for,am i happy at the minute with the way the club is going? No way it's shite. but ive also got to remember also WHAT Coates has done for our club,im hoping and praying that the next managerial appointment is the right one. Crouch is one of their biggest mistakes. Care to elaborate? 12m and our leading PL goalscorer? |
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Post by skip on Oct 2, 2019 0:06:47 GMT
Why? They tried an up an coming young manager with Rowett but it didn’t work out, with Rowett talking himself out of a job, they then went for another up and coming young manager that was hungry for success with a good although not long managerial record, he came with the promise of a new attacking attractive style of football. He’s tried his best but alas it’s just not good enough. The owners have given him time to turn things around and he can’t, so it’s back to the drawing board and back to fishing in a pool of managers that have a mixed bag of success behind them. Who they’ll go for is anyone’s guess at the moment; will they go with the cheapest option or pay what’s needed to land the right man for the job? Gouranga. Because in terms of the 21st century they are fucking dinosaurs. Clueless bell ends. Their lukewarm pies, their shit club shop selling shit merchandise, their shit music that they play in the run up to games, their shit programmes that are shit, their shit choice of managers, to their shit lukewarm fucking lager, to their shit choice of names for their football ground, they are fucking shit. Oh, I'm sorry, they made a mint out of on-line gambling so they must be fucking ace. They're not. They're fucking shit who were fucking lucky when the latest technological paradigm made them a few quid. Dickheads. |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Oct 2, 2019 0:08:51 GMT
Crouch is one of their biggest mistakes. Care to elaborate? 12m and our leading PL goalscorer? He was never needed. He wouldn’t get into TPs best PL XI. He wouldn’t get into Hughes’ best XI. He was never part of our best team. He pretty much got TP the sack because of his over reliance on him and the slow turgid play that produced. Hughes used him when desperate and what would you know? The football would go to shit then too. |
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Post by prudhoessafehands on Oct 2, 2019 0:15:10 GMT
Care to elaborate? 12m and our leading PL goalscorer? He was never needed. He wouldn’t get into TPs best PL XI. He wouldn’t get into Hughes’ best XI. He was never part of our best team. He pretty much got TP the sack because of his over reliance on him and the slow turgid play that produced. Hughes used him when desperate and what would you know? The football would go to shit then too. Ok so 45 goals for us in the PL,scored one of if not the best goal ive seen at the Brit, but he was never needed...mmm ok 
The shit football under Hughes and the slow play under TP was all down to Crouchy then?
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Post by bayernoatcake on Oct 2, 2019 0:17:50 GMT
He was never needed. He wouldn’t get into TPs best PL XI. He wouldn’t get into Hughes’ best XI. He was never part of our best team. He pretty much got TP the sack because of his over reliance on him and the slow turgid play that produced. Hughes used him when desperate and what would you know? The football would go to shit then too. Ok so 45 goals for us in the PL,scored one of if not the best goal ive seen at the Brit,but he was never needed...mmm ok He wasn’t. Pulis has KJ and Walters up front and it worked. We needed a mobile more consistent version of KJ. So someone who fast and athletic and we got Crouch. He was generally used when we were desperate. |
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Post by Scrotnig on Oct 2, 2019 0:18:13 GMT
for me it's specific. everything I've heard says John Coates is a really good bloke but since he's been principally holding the reins, every single decision seems to have been wrong, or else like removing Cartwright and presumably now Jones has come disastrously too late. he can't do this. he just doesn't have the right instincts for the job. sorry I was at school with John Coates. Didn't even realise who he was at the time despite having recently started going to Stoke games! Quite phunny. Anyway, in a school that contained some quite nasty sorts, John always came across as decent and nice. Something I did observe about him was that, unlike many, I never heard him swear even once. Whether any of these are good characteristics in the world of big business is up for debate. Perhaps he's too nice for it. |
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