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Post by bayernoatcake on Sept 24, 2019 7:49:10 GMT
What a thankless (some would say pointless) task it is to be on that council. They don’t help themselves though or don’t appear to via the minutes. Like with the new ticketing system, did anyone question what it was and what the benefits actually are or did they just swallow it like the minutes suggest? And if an explanation was given, why isn’t it on the minutes? There never seems to be any challenge to the club’s line. Again that could be down to how the minutes are written.
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Post by Davef on Sept 24, 2019 8:01:44 GMT
"As the majority of supporters are aware, booking fees and transaction fees are common across the entertainment and sports sector. The Club have resisted implementing such fees in the past but with the installation of a new ticketing system which has benefits to fans, together with it being standard through the industry, they elected to recover some of the cost." Booking fees and transaction fees may indeed be common in the entertainment industry but charging patrons to COLLECT tickets most certainly isn't. Not even Ticketmaster (whose primary source of income is selling and distributing tickets) charge their customers to collect theatre and concert tickets from the venue box offices. It is an absolute scandal that SCFC think that it is appropriate to charge their own supporters to do so. For what it's worth, I don't even get the option to collect tickets when I order them online.
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Post by wagstand on Sept 24, 2019 16:50:15 GMT
Have any of our great supporters got anything positive to say about the club they support. I’ve never heard such a load of moaning about such a wide range of petty issues. I just wish we could all pull together and get behind the club because all we are doing is pressing the self destruct button. Half of these issues wouldn’t be so important to people if the team was top of the league but some fans are always looking for another excuse to have a go at SCFC, or Scholes or Jones or Coatsey.
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Post by strettonstokie on Sept 24, 2019 16:58:39 GMT
Have any of our great supporters got anything positive to say about the club they support. I’ve never heard such a load of moaning about such a wide range of petty issues. I just wish we could all pull together and get behind the club because all we are doing is pressing the self destruct button. Half of these issues wouldn’t be so important to people if the team was top of the league but some fans are always looking for another excuse to have a go at SCFC, or Scholes or Jones or Coatsey. Do you really blame the fans??! Our club is a totally joke on the pitch and off it!
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Post by stayingupfor GermanStokie on Sept 24, 2019 17:16:28 GMT
Have any of our great supporters got anything positive to say about the club they support. I’ve never heard such a load of moaning about such a wide range of petty issues. I just wish we could all pull together and get behind the club because all we are doing is pressing the self destruct button. Half of these issues wouldn’t be so important to people if the team was top of the league but some fans are always looking for another excuse to have a go at SCFC, or Scholes or Jones or Coatsey. Not at all.... these are the types of issues (and more) that were prevalent in the early Scholes years. Lack of accountability, Hidden agendas, failure to engage and disregard for other‘s interests or needs. This was less visible during the premier league years as we strived to establish ourselves... but is now starting to rear it’s head again... with the same negative connotations.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 24, 2019 17:17:09 GMT
Have any of our great supporters got anything positive to say about the club they support. I’ve never heard such a load of moaning about such a wide range of petty issues. I just wish we could all pull together and get behind the club because all we are doing is pressing the self destruct button. Half of these issues wouldn’t be so important to people if the team was top of the league but some fans are always looking for another excuse to have a go at SCFC, or Scholes or Jones or Coatsey. Yes, they put the minutes up so as everyone can nod their heads in agreement and applaud like performing seals
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Post by bayernoatcake on Sept 24, 2019 17:19:47 GMT
Have any of our great supporters got anything positive to say about the club they support. I’ve never heard such a load of moaning about such a wide range of petty issues. I just wish we could all pull together and get behind the club because all we are doing is pressing the self destruct button. Half of these issues wouldn’t be so important to people if the team was top of the league but some fans are always looking for another excuse to have a go at SCFC, or Scholes or Jones or Coatsey. They or similar things have been issues for a decade. The level off the pitch never did match the level on it.
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Post by owdestokie2 on Sept 24, 2019 18:08:52 GMT
Have any of our great supporters got anything positive to say about the club they support. I’ve never heard such a load of moaning about such a wide range of petty issues. I just wish we could all pull together and get behind the club because all we are doing is pressing the self destruct button. Half of these issues wouldn’t be so important to people if the team was top of the league but some fans are always looking for another excuse to have a go at SCFC, or Scholes or Jones or Coatsey. Not at all.... these are the types of issues (and more) that were prevalent in the early Scholes years. Lack of accountability, Hidden agendas, failure to engage and disregard for other‘s interests or needs. This was less visible during the premier league years as we strived to establish ourselves... but is now starting to rear it’s head again... with the same negative connotations. My argument with your reply is; “but is now starting to rear it’s head again... with the same negative connotations” The first part of your argument has been the same as long as I can remember, well before our promotion to the EPL. The club has been, and remains very poor in seeing effective engagement with its supporters as an issue that is adding value. Improving yes, long way to go.......YES
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Post by stantheman on Sept 24, 2019 18:16:40 GMT
It's still beggars belief that those supporters who were locked out against QPR weren't allowed through the turnstiles to their empty seats, as it was obvious no one else could have been sitting in them
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Post by wagstand on Sept 24, 2019 18:22:33 GMT
Think I must just be from a different era. I don’t support the club because they are good at engaging with me , i support them because they are my team. Yes it’s tough at the minute but why keep kicking the club when it’s struggling. All this negativity will just end up as a self fulfilling prophecy which it seems would suit some of our fans
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Post by Malcolm Clarke on Sept 28, 2019 8:41:16 GMT
No mention of it in the minutes. The only reference to catering is delays with food cooked to order. This is surprising and disappointing since one would have expected the Council to seek explanations and reassurance from the club on it, or even if they didn't for the Club to place the matter on the agenda given the concerns of supporters and the adverse publicity they received on it. It was covered at length by us in earlier meetings. The report recently aired in the local press was actually published in the first quarter this year and we were made aware of it and addressed it then. The club has a new inspection pending and we will return to it when there is something more to address. That's interesting, Mark, because as far as I can see there is no mention of such a discussion (lengthy or otherwise) in the minutes of the meetings held in March and January 2019. What is the reason for not publishing the minutes of that discussion (or not taking any minutes of it) ?
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Post by davejohnno1 on Sept 28, 2019 8:45:10 GMT
It was covered at length by us in earlier meetings. The report recently aired in the local press was actually published in the first quarter this year and we were made aware of it and addressed it then. The club has a new inspection pending and we will return to it when there is something more to address. That's interesting, Mark, because as far as I can see there is no mention of such a discussion (lengthy or otherwise) in the minutes of the meetings held in March and January 2019. What is the reason for not publishing the minutes of that discussion (or not taking any minutes of it) ? Not particularly helpful for the council is it? Dear God. Does anything associated with our club function effectively?
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Post by Malcolm Clarke on Sept 28, 2019 11:36:00 GMT
That's interesting, Mark, because as far as I can see there is no mention of such a discussion (lengthy or otherwise) in the minutes of the meetings held in March and January 2019. What is the reason for not publishing the minutes of that discussion (or not taking any minutes of it) ? Not particularly helpful for the council is it? Dear God. Does anything associated with our club function effectively? I can’t think of a good reason why it should be confidential and in any case confidentiality does not fit at all well with the role of the Council to represent fans and report back to them on the outcome of those representations
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