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Post by estrangedsonoffaye on Sept 10, 2019 7:41:07 GMT
From an Article in The Athletic: “I was assured face to face that I would do great in tue championship, only to be informed by email I was being let go” if this is how we are treating players no wonder they aren’t inclined to perform....
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Post by chigstoke on Sept 10, 2019 8:13:13 GMT
From an Article in The Athletic: “I was assured face to face that I would do great in tue championship, only to be informed by email I was being let go” if this is how we are treating players no wonder they aren’t inclined to perform.... Take it he's on about when he signed for Bolton. Let him go after two months.
Bolton was a right bloody mess. At least there might be a light at the end of the tunnel for them now with FV.
EDIT: Scrap my Bolton comment, I take it Lambert or Rowett had discussions with him and then he was let go. Though Lambert did bomb squad him so Rowett?
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Post by lancashirelad on Sept 10, 2019 8:14:44 GMT
From an Article in The Athletic: “I was assured face to face that I would do great in tue championship, only to be informed by email I was being let go” if this is how we are treating players no wonder they aren’t inclined to perform.... The opposite as we have given contracts to injured players so they can recover and hopefully reach their levels they were at before, at times we have benefited but other times the players never return to a first team level, PL or championship. Surely we realised another long term sick note on full pay was not far away. He sadly has a long injury record and thus since he was released i have not seen his name on many team sheets.
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Post by Cast no shadow on Sept 10, 2019 8:33:12 GMT
When he was fit, he was a very good player for us.
He can't hold much of a grudge really if his son is in our academy set up.
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Post by terryconroysmagic on Sept 10, 2019 9:01:46 GMT
From an Article in The Athletic: “I was assured face to face that I would do great in tue championship, only to be informed by email I was being let go” if this is how we are treating players no wonder they aren’t inclined to perform.... The opposite as we have given contracts to injured players so they can recover and hopefully reach their levels they were at before, at times we have benefited but other times the players never return to a first team level, PL or championship. Surely we realised another long term sick note on full pay was not far away. He sadly has a long injury record and thus since he was released i have not seen his name on many team sheets. Should have plenty of time to clean his fish tank...🤣
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Post by lancashirelad on Sept 10, 2019 9:42:55 GMT
The opposite as we have given contracts to injured players so they can recover and hopefully reach their levels they were at before, at times we have benefited but other times the players never return to a first team level, PL or championship. Surely we realised another long term sick note on full pay was not far away. He sadly has a long injury record and thus since he was released i have not seen his name on many team sheets. Should have plenty of time to clean his fish tank...🤣 And visit his grannies.
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Post by zerps on Sept 10, 2019 10:37:03 GMT
He can’t moan too much he looks like that and his mrs is amazing
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Post by nott1 on Sept 10, 2019 11:19:00 GMT
Should have plenty of time to clean his fish tank...🤣 And visit his grannies. All six of them!
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Post by bayernoatcake on Sept 11, 2019 9:17:36 GMT
We are run so badly.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 11, 2019 9:37:09 GMT
Ireland was still only 27 when he was handed a lifeline by Hughes at Stoke. After an impressive start, the loan move was made permanent midway through the 2013-14 season. But by the start of 2015-16, Ireland began to fall out of favour with Hughes. At the very end of the season he suffered a double leg break, which required three months’ rehabilitation work in Qatar, away from his family. He missed the whole 2016-17 campaign and made just five senior appearances the following season, after Stoke had renewed his contract in two six-month chunks to assist with his recovery. Three of those appearances, all as a substitute, came in the final month of the season as Stoke’s relegation to the Championship was confirmed. Lambert replaced Hughes that January, but he was not the reason Ireland was cut loose. Ireland claims he was assured, face-to-face, he would “do great in the Championship” but then he was jettisoned via email hours later. “It was bizarre,” he adds. “It’s tough because I loved the club when I was there. I’d given a lot and been through a lot there with my leg break. I felt like I was more than just a player there.” Just to give the full segment. An excellent read if you have a sub or a trial - theathletic.com/1196206/2019/09/10/stephen-ireland-exclusive/
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Post by realstokebloke on Sept 11, 2019 11:22:56 GMT
Yet ano player we didn't get the best out of imo.
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Post by Cast no shadow on Sept 11, 2019 12:15:25 GMT
Playing in kompany's testimonial tonight
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Post by bertiestan on Sept 11, 2019 12:29:16 GMT
I dont mind stephen ireland
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Post by SCFC92 on Sept 11, 2019 13:56:54 GMT
Is this the Stephen Ireland who we offered a contract to, to assist with his recovery?
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Post by chigstoke on Sept 11, 2019 14:40:02 GMT
Yet ano player we didn't get the best out of imo.
Was part of one of my favourite Stoke goals. Away at Swasea, the 2-2 draw in 2013. Quick 1-2 gets played in Midfield, Walters passes to Crouch who flicks it over the Swans defense first touch for Ireland to just slot it in like it was nobody's business.
Such a slick and well worked goal.
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Post by realstokebloke on Sept 11, 2019 15:25:28 GMT
Yet ano player we didn't get the best out of imo.
Was part of one of my favourite Stoke goals. Away at Swasea, the 2-2 draw in 2013. Quick 1-2 gets played in Midfield, Walters passes to Crouch who flicks it over the Swans defense first touch for Ireland to just slot it in like it was nobody's business.
Such a slick and well worked goal.
Class player on his day for sure.
And a huge pity we didn't see more of the above.
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Post by chigstoke on Sept 11, 2019 15:59:36 GMT
Was part of one of my favourite Stoke goals. Away at Swasea, the 2-2 draw in 2013. Quick 1-2 gets played in Midfield, Walters passes to Crouch who flicks it over the Swans defense first touch for Ireland to just slot it in like it was nobody's business.
Such a slick and well worked goal.
Class player on his day for sure.
And a huge pity we didn't see more of the above.Oh definitely. With how he performed in the 3-0 loss at Old Trafford in the relegation, then for me he should have been playing. Was by far the best Stoke player on the pitch that game.
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Post by wherty on Sept 11, 2019 16:04:22 GMT
Is this the Stephen Ireland who we offered a contract to, to assist with his recovery? It is and he states this in the article.
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Post by santy on Sept 11, 2019 16:57:05 GMT
Is this the Stephen Ireland who we offered a contract to, to assist with his recovery? With how it reads, this is what makes it more confusing for him. We went so much above and beyond when we had an out and didn't take it. Then when he'd been promised/felt he'd been promised something, it was gone within hours.
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Post by trickydicky73 on Sept 11, 2019 18:38:18 GMT
Yet ano player we didn't get the best out of imo.
Spot on. He had natural talent, and we looked better with him in the side at one point.
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Post by rawli on Sept 13, 2019 7:38:44 GMT
Class player on his day for sure.
And a huge pity we didn't see more of the above. Oh definitely. With how he performed in the 3-0 loss at Old Trafford in the relegation, then for me he should have been playing. Was by far the best Stoke player on the pitch that game. Refusing to use him was another contribution to our relegation under Lambert.
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Post by zerps on Sept 13, 2019 7:45:35 GMT
Yet ano player we didn't get the best out of imo.
Spot on. He had natural talent, and we looked better with him in the side at one point. He was awesome at old trafford
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Post by chigstoke on Sept 13, 2019 7:47:02 GMT
Oh definitely. With how he performed in the 3-0 loss at Old Trafford in the relegation, then for me he should have been playing. Was by far the best Stoke player on the pitch that game. Refusing to use him was another contribution to our relegation under Lambert. He was an option we should absolutely have been using.
He'd have been the player that could have allowed him to set up on a 4231 rather than 433. He looked well up for it at United so for him to be dropped after that match was criminal.
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Post by lordb on Sept 13, 2019 9:40:02 GMT
Refusing to use him was another contribution to our relegation under Lambert. He was an option we should absolutely have been using. He'd have been the player that could have allowed him to set up on a 4231 rather than 433. He looked well up for it at United so for him to be dropped after that match was criminal.
Lambert's big mistake. Obviously there were other issues but a firing Ireland and Shaqiri would surely have seen a couple of tight games go our way
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Post by spitthedog on Sept 13, 2019 9:55:37 GMT
He was an option we should absolutely have been using. He'd have been the player that could have allowed him to set up on a 4231 rather than 433. He looked well up for it at United so for him to be dropped after that match was criminal.
Lambert's big mistake. Obviously there were other issues but a firing Ireland and Shaqiri would surely have seen a couple of tight games go our way This over romantic view of Ireland does my head in. How can you rely on a player who cant stay fit for 5 minutes? He wasn't dropped after the Man Utd game. He was injured.
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Post by AlliG on Sept 13, 2019 10:56:12 GMT
How many games has Ireland played since he was released by Stoke?
Surely if he is still as good as he seems to think he must be playing somewhere?
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Post by lordb on Sept 13, 2019 12:12:57 GMT
Lambert's big mistake. Obviously there were other issues but a firing Ireland and Shaqiri would surely have seen a couple of tight games go our way This over romantic view of Ireland does my head in. How can you rely on a player who cant stay fit for 5 minutes? He wasn't dropped after the Man Utd game. He was injured. We only went down by 3 or 4 points & many of the draws & defeats were 1 goal away from a win or a draw wouldn't have taken much
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Post by spitthedog on Sept 13, 2019 12:19:10 GMT
This over romantic view of Ireland does my head in. How can you rely on a player who cant stay fit for 5 minutes? He wasn't dropped after the Man Utd game. He was injured. We only went down by 3 or 4 points & many of the draws & defeats were 1 goal away from a win or a draw wouldn't have taken much what about all the games he was shit in the few times he was fit?...don't they count in this hypothetical, fantasy world calculation? btw I think he was a classy player when he wanted to be but he was a) inconsistent and therefore unreliable b) injury prone and therefore unreliable This amazing game he supposed have had v Man Utd where he played well for 60 minutes and we will still lost 3-0 is part of some fantasy that has little basis imho. He was injured the very next game so unavailable for selection. We needed players who were available not players who weren't. too easy to hype up players when they are not playing.
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