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Post by sheikhmomo on Nov 19, 2019 21:04:00 GMT
I think both camps will be reasonably content. Corbyn won it but with no knockout blow. Johnson avoided calamity but really came across as a one trick Brexit pony in the end.
It is probably that Brexit 'trick' that will win him the election but the Tories eggs are literally all in that one basket. If the electorate decided that there is more to it, then they're struggling because they've lost the initiative on everything else.
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Post by essexstokey on Nov 19, 2019 21:04:05 GMT
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Post by salopstick on Nov 19, 2019 21:06:50 GMT
Corbyn cant answer boris' brexit question because if he does there's a few very obvious, and potentially humiliating, follow up questions he'll need to answer. He can answer, but all it would achieve would be to remove 50% of potential voters. As far as I understand it he will go with a 2nd referendum result, irrespective of his personal opinion. By not answering he becomes just as dishonest in his electioneering |
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Post by estrangedsonoffaye on Nov 19, 2019 21:06:55 GMT
Audience should be told not to clap, it seriously ruins the entire thing. Just when you think you get a salient point it gets cut off by Joe Bloggs doing a seal impression. Does my fucking head in.
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Post by salopstick on Nov 19, 2019 21:07:37 GMT
I think both camps will be reasonably content. Corbyn won it but with no knockout blow. Johnson avoided calamity but really came across as a one trick Brexit pony in the end. It is probably that Brexit 'trick' that will win him the election but the Tories eggs are literally all in that one basket. If the electorate decided that there is more to it, then they're struggling because they've lost the initiative on everything else. British Politics is in that basket. Until it’s sorted they can’t do anything else |
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Post by foster on Nov 19, 2019 21:08:50 GMT
I think both camps will be reasonably content. Corbyn won it but with no knockout blow. Johnson avoided calamity but really came across as a one trick Brexit pony in the end. It is probably that Brexit 'trick' that will win him the election but the Tories eggs are literally all in that one basket. If the electorate decided that there is more to it, then they're struggling because they've lost the initiative on everything else. Boris even laughs at himself when he says he has an amazing deal. It may seem funny but he knows it's shit which is why he can't keep a straight face every time he bigs it up. |
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Post by smallthorner on Nov 19, 2019 21:09:46 GMT
Yes we do. Both Corbyn and Emily keep saying they will negotiate a great deal. That great they will campaign against it 2nd referendum doesn't mean they're campaigning against it does it. It's quite simple on the question of Brexit at the election. Soft Brexit with conditions vote Tory. Possible no-deal Brexit vote Tory. Second referendum vote Labour Remain vote Lib Dem or Green. It's the other stuff that causes the confusion. For example a nailed on Socialist who wants Brexit come what may. This election is going to be very interesting. |
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Post by eyeonebob on Nov 19, 2019 21:09:48 GMT
2nd referendum doesn't mean they're campaigning against it does it. There you go. When will Corbyn tell us we there he stand on campaigning for his great deal He hasn't got a deal. He's a remainer so couldn't possibly put a decent leave deal together. He's a cunt of the highest order. He was live on the tele saying how his friend died of cancer after waiting 8 hours in A and E. I don't think cancer kills in eight hours???? The NHS staff are over run because of the rise in population,nothing else. But hey, let's keep on letting immigrants coming in and taking the piss. |
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Post by foster on Nov 19, 2019 21:10:22 GMT
He can answer, but all it would achieve would be to remove 50% of potential voters. As far as I understand it he will go with a 2nd referendum result, irrespective of his personal opinion. By not answering he becomes just as dishonest in his electioneering I don't understand your logic. It's about what the country wants, not what he wants. And calling anyone dishonest whilst supporting Boris is plain hypocrisy. |
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Post by robstokie on Nov 19, 2019 21:10:58 GMT
Audience should be told not to clap, it seriously ruins the entire thing. Just when you think you get a salient point it gets cut off by Joe Bloggs doing a seal impression. Does my fucking head in. Need to axe the audience format - whilst i personally like the touch that getting average joe up to ask their questions, the fact is the actual audience is probably made up of the respective candidates cheerleaders. think they should just go back to a 1-on-1 debate. |
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Post by eyeonebob on Nov 19, 2019 21:12:07 GMT
To be honest that was wank though Typical BBC It was on itv |
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Post by estrangedsonoffaye on Nov 19, 2019 21:12:22 GMT
Audience should be told not to clap, it seriously ruins the entire thing. Just when you think you get a salient point it gets cut off by Joe Bloggs doing a seal impression. Does my fucking head in. Need to axe the audience format - whilst i personally like the touch that getting average joe up to ask their questions, the fact is the actual audience is probably made up of the respective candidates cheerleaders. think they should just go back to a 1-on-1 debate. Happy to have a select group of questioners, from a random draw or something, but there’s no point in it being there like you say if all it’s going to do is clap. |
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Post by serpico on Nov 19, 2019 21:12:30 GMT
Corbyn cant answer boris' brexit question because if he does there's a few very obvious, and potentially humiliating, follow up questions he'll need to answer. He can answer, but all it would achieve would be to remove 50% of potential voters. As far as I understand it he will go with a 2nd referendum result, irrespective of his personal opinion. there is that as well, although i doubt its 50% the whole 2nd referendum under corbyn would be phoney anyway, remain Vs Labours pretend leave option, basically two forms of remain... johnsons deal is bad enough, but under labour might as well just jigger it and stay in. |
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Post by foster on Nov 19, 2019 21:13:07 GMT
There you go. When will Corbyn tell us we there he stand on campaigning for his great deal He hasn't got a deal. He's a remainer so couldn't possibly put a decent leave deal together. He's a cunt of the highest order. He was live on the tele saying how his friend died of cancer after waiting 8 hours in A and E. I don't think cancer kills in eight hours???? The NHS staff are over run because of the rise in population,nothing else. But hey, let's keep on letting immigrants coming in and taking the piss. NHS are overrun because of lack of funding and investment. If the population increases then funding should be aligned to match that. Nothing else. |
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Post by partickpotter on Nov 19, 2019 21:15:45 GMT
I went to see Le Mans 65.
Not a bad film.
Better than the debate I’m sure.
I suspect, as both parties wanted to avoid a fuck up, each will be happy with a draw...
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Post by eyeonebob on Nov 19, 2019 21:15:49 GMT
He can answer, but all it would achieve would be to remove 50% of potential voters. As far as I understand it he will go with a 2nd referendum result, irrespective of his personal opinion. there is that as well, although i doubt its 50% the whole 2nd referendum under corbyn would be phoney anyway, remain Vs Labours pretend leave option, basically two forms of remain... johnsons deal is bad enough, but under labour might as well just jigger it and stay in. It'll be a case of remain or remain. Totally against what was voted for 3 years ago. |
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Post by robstokie on Nov 19, 2019 21:15:58 GMT
Need to axe the audience format - whilst i personally like the touch that getting average joe up to ask their questions, the fact is the actual audience is probably made up of the respective candidates cheerleaders. think they should just go back to a 1-on-1 debate. Happy to have a select group of questioners, from a random draw or something, but there’s no point in it being there like you say if all it’s going to do is clap. Its all built up to be a soap opera aint it? Same as parliament really - Honestly believe you could have more of a reasoned debate with, dare i say it, our 'friends' from Burslem. |
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Post by essexstokey on Nov 19, 2019 21:17:44 GMT
There you go. When will Corbyn tell us we there he stand on campaigning for his great deal He hasn't got a deal. He's a remainer so couldn't possibly put a decent leave deal together. He's a cunt of the highest order. He was live on the tele saying how his friend died of cancer after waiting 8 hours in A and E. I don't think cancer kills in eight hours???? The NHS staff are over run because of the rise in population,nothing else. But hey, let's keep on letting immigrants coming in and taking the piss. Nice to see the trolls from conservative central office have deemed the oatcake so important that they join!! |
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Post by sheikhmomo on Nov 19, 2019 21:18:31 GMT
I think both camps will be reasonably content. Corbyn won it but with no knockout blow. Johnson avoided calamity but really came across as a one trick Brexit pony in the end. It is probably that Brexit 'trick' that will win him the election but the Tories eggs are literally all in that one basket. If the electorate decided that there is more to it, then they're struggling because they've lost the initiative on everything else. British Politics is in that basket. Until it’s sorted they can’t do anything else It's already the new 'strong and stable' though isn't it. Tired, hackneyed and becoming vapid even if it's important to you. |
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Post by smallthorner on Nov 19, 2019 21:18:42 GMT
I went to see Le Mans 65. Not a bad film. Better than the debate I’m sure. I suspect, as both parties wanted to avoid a fuck up, each will be happy with a draw... 51/49 isn't a draw. It's an absolute conclusive, indisputable majority. |
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Post by algor on Nov 19, 2019 21:19:21 GMT
By not answering he becomes just as dishonest in his electioneering I don't understand your logic. It's about what the country wants, not what he wants. And calling anyone dishonest whilst supporting Boris is plain hypocrisy. In fairness Foster Labours deal involves staying in the customs union and the single market, this means paying billions into Europe every year, not being able to negotiate independent trade deals and also being subject European law, it isn't Brexit and the choice between that and remain isn't really a choice. |
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Post by eyeonebob on Nov 19, 2019 21:19:27 GMT
He hasn't got a deal. He's a remainer so couldn't possibly put a decent leave deal together. He's a cunt of the highest order. He was live on the tele saying how his friend died of cancer after waiting 8 hours in A and E. I don't think cancer kills in eight hours???? The NHS staff are over run because of the rise in population,nothing else. But hey, let's keep on letting immigrants coming in and taking the piss. NHS are overrun because of lack of funding and investment. If the population increases then funding should be aligned to match that. Nothing else. The funding can't keep up with in the increase of foreign nationals pillaging. Where does the extra funding come from????? Not from the immigrants who turn up on our shores without a pot to piss in. But who use the NHS the same as us who've paid in all our lives. Takes the cunting piss. |
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Post by sheikhmomo on Nov 19, 2019 21:20:08 GMT
I went to see Le Mans 65. Not a bad film. Better than the debate I’m sure. I suspect, as both parties wanted to avoid a fuck up, each will be happy with a draw... I think allied to personal ratings, Labour will see that as a pretty decent win. |
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Post by estrangedsonoffaye on Nov 19, 2019 21:22:07 GMT
There you go. When will Corbyn tell us we there he stand on campaigning for his great deal He hasn't got a deal. He's a remainer so couldn't possibly put a decent leave deal together. He's a cunt of the highest order. He was live on the tele saying how his friend died of cancer after waiting 8 hours in A and E. I don't think cancer kills in eight hours???? The NHS staff are over run because of the rise in population,nothing else. But hey, let's keep on letting immigrants coming in and taking the piss. Acute side effects of chemo such as pulmonitis can kill you very quickly without urgent A and E care irrespective of the cancer itself. A relative of mine died 2 weeks ago from chemo complications despite the cancer itself halting in size. She literally says in the video she needs fluid draining from around her liver, which eventually lead to her death. Oedema is a common side effect of breast cancer drugs. So yeah, perfectly plausible she could die after 8 hours without treatment and frankly insensitive and ignorant comment. |
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Post by essexstokey on Nov 19, 2019 21:23:14 GMT
I went to see Le Mans 65. Not a bad film. Better than the debate I’m sure. I suspect, as both parties wanted to avoid a fuck up, each will be happy with a draw... You gove again!!!!!!!!!!!!! the tory supporters owned polling organisation !! |
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Post by algor on Nov 19, 2019 21:23:38 GMT
I went to see Le Mans 65. Not a bad film. Better than the debate I’m sure. I suspect, as both parties wanted to avoid a fuck up, each will be happy with a draw... I think allied to personal ratings, Labour will see that as a pretty decent win. A bit like losing the last election was a win I guess. I hope you keep winning  |
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Post by mattyd on Nov 19, 2019 21:25:24 GMT
Corbyn still refuses to say wether he will campaign for remain or leave. " What do we want Not really Sure. When do we want it? Dunno." |
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Post by mattyd on Nov 19, 2019 21:26:15 GMT
This is wank. She isn't letting people speak, especially Johnson. She is terrible. Normal BBC as we know Thought it was ITV |
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Post by sheikhmomo on Nov 19, 2019 21:26:18 GMT
I think allied to personal ratings, Labour will see that as a pretty decent win. A bit like losing the last election was a win I guess. I hope you keep winning You could try ITV's official twitter poll I guess  |
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Post by partickpotter on Nov 19, 2019 21:27:52 GMT
I went to see Le Mans 65. Not a bad film. Better than the debate I’m sure. I suspect, as both parties wanted to avoid a fuck up, each will be happy with a draw... I think allied to personal ratings, Labour will see that as a pretty decent win. I’m sure they will. Likewise the Tories will be quite happy that bumbling Boris didn’t fall flat on his face. |
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