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Post by partickpotter on Nov 1, 2019 8:27:30 GMT
There was a sad feature on the Today programme that showed Parliament at its best.
It concerned how an autistic child was treated after she became 18 - basically she and her family have been suffering terribly as she moves into adult care systems. It was a shocking story.
Anyway, they interviewed the Labour MP who heads a Westminster committee looking at this. She was excellent - no party politics, just a clear analysis of what was causing the problems this family was experiencing and what needs to be done to improve things. In particular how responsible agencies need to act.
Parliament set pieces like PMQs so dominate media coverage of Westminster it’s easy to miss what can be the outstanding work of committees (of course, they can also be pretty feeble at times too. But credit where it’s due).
Anyway - please excuse this intermission on behalf of good politics!
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Post by sheikhmomo on Nov 1, 2019 8:28:57 GMT
Only just caught up with the Farage/Trump interview properly. Fuck me it was like a Party Political Broadcast for Jezza. More please.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 1, 2019 8:31:44 GMT
Its good to see that you do not agree with the abuse MPs get. I think the two you mention, I really do not see the issue. They see things differently to you. They have the courage to take their message to an electorate. Win or lose, it's democracy in action. What can be wrong with that? They both stood at the last election, and are on video after the referendum, and before the last election, saying they would honour the result of the referendum. They obviously had no intention of doing so.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 1, 2019 8:33:34 GMT
Only just caught up with the Farage/Trump interview properly. Fuck me it was like a Party Political Broadcast for Jezza. More please. What about where he said several times that Corbyn would be really bad for Britain ?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 1, 2019 8:43:17 GMT
There was a sad feature on the Today programme that showed Parliament at its best. It concerned how an autistic child was treated after she became 18 - basically she and her family have been suffering terribly as she moves into adult care systems. It was a shocking story. Anyway, they interviewed the Labour MP who heads a Westminster committee looking at this. She was excellent - no party politics, just a clear analysis of what was causing the problems this family was experiencing and what needs to be done to improve things. In particular how responsible agencies need to act. Parliament set pieces like PMQs so dominate media coverage of Westminster it’s easy to miss what can be the outstanding work of committees (of course, they can also be pretty feeble at times too. But credit where it’s due). Anyway - please excuse this intermission on behalf of good politics! There are issues that are so vital to this country that there should be cross party groups working on them irrespective of who gets into power every 3-5 years. A green policy for the next 30 years for example, major infrastructure and building projects etc. Some things are beyond the partisan nature of politics and the short term thinking of governments only interested in regaining power makes it difficult to have coherent strategies for the real big issues in our society. It’s got to be the way forward.....
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Post by trickydicky73 on Nov 1, 2019 8:52:47 GMT
There was a sad feature on the Today programme that showed Parliament at its best. It concerned how an autistic child was treated after she became 18 - basically she and her family have been suffering terribly as she moves into adult care systems. It was a shocking story. Anyway, they interviewed the Labour MP who heads a Westminster committee looking at this. She was excellent - no party politics, just a clear analysis of what was causing the problems this family was experiencing and what needs to be done to improve things. In particular how responsible agencies need to act. Parliament set pieces like PMQs so dominate media coverage of Westminster it’s easy to miss what can be the outstanding work of committees (of course, they can also be pretty feeble at times too. But credit where it’s due). Anyway - please excuse this intermission on behalf of good politics! There are issues that are so vital to this country that there should be cross party groups working on them irrespective of who gets into power every 3-5 years. A green policy for the next 30 years for example, major infrastructure and building projects etc. Some things are beyond the partisan nature of politics and the short term thinking of governments only interested in regaining power makes it difficult to have coherent strategies for the real big issues in our society. It’s got to be the way forward..... Totally agree. Party politics is bollocks, they should cooperate with each other to solve the country's problems. They have managed it while stopping Brexit, after all.
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Post by franklin66 on Nov 1, 2019 9:03:03 GMT
Intelligence ask him the meaning of kidnapping and we send 16 year old kids into battle apparently. Do you know what, for all the disagreements I have with people like Salop, Felonious, Harryburrows etc. on here about politics, I don't think I've ever had a response from a single one of them that I didn't see as them respectfully putting across their beliefs in the way they best see fit. Tonnes of political disagreements, not one of them with malice, I understand where they are coming from and they understand where I come from. They're also civil human beings who accept other viewpoints exist, whether they agree or not. The point in healthy debate is to question both yours and the oppositions viewpoints through mutually respectful discourse. Sometimes it gets heated, I myself apologised yesterday for saying someone was a 'selfish prick', it was wrong, but I get that it happens. But if you're here just to spout shit consistently over the course of what must be over a year about people personally because you didn't understand, believe, or agree with their viewpoints, then it gets no-one anywhere. Nothing gets properly debated, and it becomes boring. You apologised? Sorry I must have missed that.
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Post by 4372 on Nov 1, 2019 9:04:19 GMT
Its good to see that you do not agree with the abuse MPs get. I think the two you mention, I really do not see the issue. They see things differently to you. They have the courage to take their message to an electorate. Win or lose, it's democracy in action. What can be wrong with that? They both stood at the last election, and are on video after the referendum, and before the last election, saying they would honour the result of the referendum. They obviously had no intention of doing so. And my point is that they both want to put their current views to an electorate. They will either succeed or fail to persuade people. What is that if it is not democracy?
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Post by sheikhmomo on Nov 1, 2019 9:18:57 GMT
Only just caught up with the Farage/Trump interview properly. Fuck me it was like a Party Political Broadcast for Jezza. More please. What about where he said several times that Corbyn would be really bad for Britain ? Yeah I know. It was Trump saying it. Fucking brilliant
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Post by essexstokey on Nov 1, 2019 9:23:29 GMT
Only just caught up with the Farage/Trump interview properly. Fuck me it was like a Party Political Broadcast for Jezza. More please. What about where he said several times that Corbyn would be really bad for Britain ? Yes but look at who's saying it a right wing extremist nut job !! shows corbyn has them worried if there relying on trump! Might he also be saying it because labour have said the nhs is not for sale and labour intend to set up a generic drug company to supply the nhs so stopping the American drugs companies inflating prices!
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Post by Eggybread on Nov 1, 2019 9:39:00 GMT
Labour Party policies Ban companies based in tax havens bidding for government contracts It's astounding that this isn't the case already. How on earth could anyone even attempt to justify taxpayers' cash being paid to companies based in tax havens for the purpose of dodging tax? £10 minimum wage for all workers over the age of 18 The UK is the only country in the developed world where workers' wages are declining in real terms, while the economy is actually growing. A £10 minimum wage would help to reverse this scenario, and it would also significantly reduce the cost of in-work benefits like tax credits and housing benefit (most of which goes to working families these days). The Tories have are trying to outflank this by saying they'll raise the minimum wage to £10.50, but that's only by 2024, Labour's would come in immediately. All rented accommodation to be fit for human habitation Again, astounding that this isn't the case already, but in January 2016 the Tories (over 1/3 of whom are landlords) deliberately voted down a Labour Party amendment to their housing bill to ensure that all rented accommodation is fit for human habitation. Renationalise the railways This is a very popular policy that is supported by an overwhelming majority of the public. Do you support rail renationalisation too, or are you one of the minority who think that the current rip-off profiteer-administered shambles is acceptable? Renationalise the NHS The Tory party have been carving up the English NHS and distributing the pieces to the private sector, Jeremy Corbyn has pledged to reverse this process. Are you one of the 84% of people who thinks the NHS should be run as a not-for-profit public service, or one of the 7% who agree with the ongoing Tory privatisation agenda? Free school meals The policy of providing free school meals to all school children between the ages of 4 and 11 is based on evidence based research showing that universal free school meals lead to significantly improved grades. It will be paid for by ending the generous tax breaks (public subsidies) for the 7% of kids who go to private fee-paying schools. Create a National Education Service Jeremy Corbyn believes that education is a right, not a commodity. He wants to create an integrated National Education Service to ensure that education is freely available to anyone who needs it, no matter their age, income, or background. Scrap tuition fees Thanks to the Tories (and their Lib-Dem enablers) UK students now face the most expensive tuition fees in the developed world for study at public universities, meaning students typically leave university with £50,000 of debt, and two thirds of them will never pay off their student debts. Labour would end this lunacy by getting rid of student fees. Restore NHS Bursaries One of the first things Theresa My did when she came to power in 2016 was to scrap NHS bursaries for nurses and other NHS workers. This removal of financial support for trainee nurses has caused a huge decline in the number of applicants to nursing courses. The NHS is facing a vast recruitment crisis, and restoring NHS bursaries and investing heavily in medical training is the only way to prevent even more than the 130,000 avoidable deaths already caused by Tory austerity cuts to the NHS and social care systems. Increase the carers' allowance Labour are proposing to increase the Carers Allowance for the 1 million unpaid carers in the UK. This would be paid for by scrapping the Tories' Inheritance Tax cut for millionaires. Unpaid carers save the UK economy an estimated £132 million a year, and they've been doing ever more work as a result of the £4.6 billion in Tory cuts to the social care budget. Create a National Investment Bank This is actually one of Jeremy Corbyn's best policies, but few people actually understand it. It's absolutely clear that allowing private banks to determine where money is invested ends up in huge speculative bubbles in housing and financial derivatives, while the real economy is starved of cash. A National Investment Bank would work by investing in things like infrastructure, services, businesses and regional development projects, and would end up becoming a kind of sovereign wealth fund for the UK. End the public sector pay freeze Under Tory rule UK workers have suffered the longest sustained decline in real wages since records began. The public sector pay freeze contributed massively to this. You'd have to be economically illiterate to imagine that repressing public sector wages with below inflation pay rises for year after year would not exert downwards pressure on private sector wages too. Ending the public sector pay freeze would actually boost the economy by putting more money in people's pockets, meaning an increase in aggregate demand. End sweetheart tax deals between HMRC and massive corporations David Cameron (the son of a tax-dodger) repeatedly lied through his teeth about how serious he was about confronting tax-dodging, whilst allowing HMRC to concoct sweetheart deals with corporations like Google, Vodafone and Starbucks. One of the main reasons the corporate press are so strongly opposed to Jeremy Corbyn is that they know that unlike David Cameron, he's serious when he talks about clamping down on tax-dodging. Stop major corporations ripping off their suppliers Major corporations are withholding an astounding £26 billion through late payment, which is responsible for an estimated 50,000 small businesses going bust every year. The scale of this problem is so massive that it should be a national scandal, and Jeremy Corbyn is absolutely right to align himself with small businesses to defend their interests. Reverse the Tory corporation tax cuts Since 2010 the Tories have cut the rate of corporation tax for major multinational corporations from 28% to just 17% (by 2020) meaning the UK has one of the lowest corporation tax rates in the developed world. The global average is 27% and the G7 average is 32.3%. Corbyn is proposing to reverse this ideological race to the bottom madness and restore corporation tax rates back in line with the rest of the developed world. Prevent No Deal Brexit chaos Jeremy Corbyn and the Labour Party are absolutely committed to preventing the UK from crashing out of the EU without agreeing a sensible process first. With Labour the worst possible Brexit option of No Deal will be taken off the table, and the choice will be given back to the public between a "soft" least-damaging version of Brexit (that protects the interests of British businesses and British workers alike) against Remain in a final say referendum. Zero Hours Contracts ban Almost a million UK workers are now on exploitative Zero Hours Contracts. Last year the New Zealand parliament voted to ban them, and Labour is proposing to do the same. Long-term employees and workers doing regular hours would be protected from Zero Hours Contract exploitation. End Tory disability persecution Ever since 2010 the Tories have been brutally persecuting sick, disabled, and terminally ill people. Cutting their pitiful subsistence benefits to pay for even more tax cuts for the rich, confiscating their motability vehicles, forcing them through demeaning corporate-administered "fit for work" disability denial assessments, even making terminally ill people sign on if they survive for more than six months! Labour would scrap all of this, and build a new, more compassionate system to actually help the most vulnerable and unfortunate people in our society, rather than abusing and impoverishing them, and making them feel like useless idle scroungers who should just go and kill themselves. House building Under the Tory government the level of UK housebuilding has slumped to the lowest levels since the 1920s, even though demand for housing is extremely high. Labour are guaranteeing investment in a programme of house building, and committing to ensure that half of the new houses are social housing. This wouldn't just alleviate the housing crisis, it would also stimulate the economy (creation of skilled jobs, demand for supplies and materials, less disposable income being wasted on rip-off private rents ...). Combat inequality Tory austerity fanaticism resulted in the longest sustained decline in workers' wages since records began and condemned an additional 400,000 children to growing up in poverty, meanwhile the tiny super-rich majority literally doubled their wealth. Labour is pledging to reduce the inequality gap and introduce progressive policies to reduce the gap between the incomes of the highest and lowest paid. There is plenty of evidence to show that the least unequal societies are more economically successful places where the people are happier. Wonder which ones the little englanders dislike What a load of rubbish Labours policies are.
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Post by partickpotter on Nov 1, 2019 9:50:00 GMT
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Post by Northy on Nov 1, 2019 9:51:06 GMT
Labour Party policies Ban companies based in tax havens bidding for government contracts It's astounding that this isn't the case already. How on earth could anyone even attempt to justify taxpayers' cash being paid to companies based in tax havens for the purpose of dodging tax? £10 minimum wage for all workers over the age of 18 The UK is the only country in the developed world where workers' wages are declining in real terms, while the economy is actually growing. A £10 minimum wage would help to reverse this scenario, and it would also significantly reduce the cost of in-work benefits like tax credits and housing benefit (most of which goes to working families these days). The Tories have are trying to outflank this by saying they'll raise the minimum wage to £10.50, but that's only by 2024, Labour's would come in immediately. All rented accommodation to be fit for human habitation Again, astounding that this isn't the case already, but in January 2016 the Tories (over 1/3 of whom are landlords) deliberately voted down a Labour Party amendment to their housing bill to ensure that all rented accommodation is fit for human habitation. Renationalise the railways This is a very popular policy that is supported by an overwhelming majority of the public. Do you support rail renationalisation too, or are you one of the minority who think that the current rip-off profiteer-administered shambles is acceptable? Renationalise the NHS The Tory party have been carving up the English NHS and distributing the pieces to the private sector, Jeremy Corbyn has pledged to reverse this process. Are you one of the 84% of people who thinks the NHS should be run as a not-for-profit public service, or one of the 7% who agree with the ongoing Tory privatisation agenda? Free school meals The policy of providing free school meals to all school children between the ages of 4 and 11 is based on evidence based research showing that universal free school meals lead to significantly improved grades. It will be paid for by ending the generous tax breaks (public subsidies) for the 7% of kids who go to private fee-paying schools. Create a National Education Service Jeremy Corbyn believes that education is a right, not a commodity. He wants to create an integrated National Education Service to ensure that education is freely available to anyone who needs it, no matter their age, income, or background. Scrap tuition fees Thanks to the Tories (and their Lib-Dem enablers) UK students now face the most expensive tuition fees in the developed world for study at public universities, meaning students typically leave university with £50,000 of debt, and two thirds of them will never pay off their student debts. Labour would end this lunacy by getting rid of student fees. Restore NHS Bursaries One of the first things Theresa My did when she came to power in 2016 was to scrap NHS bursaries for nurses and other NHS workers. This removal of financial support for trainee nurses has caused a huge decline in the number of applicants to nursing courses. The NHS is facing a vast recruitment crisis, and restoring NHS bursaries and investing heavily in medical training is the only way to prevent even more than the 130,000 avoidable deaths already caused by Tory austerity cuts to the NHS and social care systems. Increase the carers' allowance Labour are proposing to increase the Carers Allowance for the 1 million unpaid carers in the UK. This would be paid for by scrapping the Tories' Inheritance Tax cut for millionaires. Unpaid carers save the UK economy an estimated £132 million a year, and they've been doing ever more work as a result of the £4.6 billion in Tory cuts to the social care budget. Create a National Investment Bank This is actually one of Jeremy Corbyn's best policies, but few people actually understand it. It's absolutely clear that allowing private banks to determine where money is invested ends up in huge speculative bubbles in housing and financial derivatives, while the real economy is starved of cash. A National Investment Bank would work by investing in things like infrastructure, services, businesses and regional development projects, and would end up becoming a kind of sovereign wealth fund for the UK. End the public sector pay freeze Under Tory rule UK workers have suffered the longest sustained decline in real wages since records began. The public sector pay freeze contributed massively to this. You'd have to be economically illiterate to imagine that repressing public sector wages with below inflation pay rises for year after year would not exert downwards pressure on private sector wages too. Ending the public sector pay freeze would actually boost the economy by putting more money in people's pockets, meaning an increase in aggregate demand. End sweetheart tax deals between HMRC and massive corporations David Cameron (the son of a tax-dodger) repeatedly lied through his teeth about how serious he was about confronting tax-dodging, whilst allowing HMRC to concoct sweetheart deals with corporations like Google, Vodafone and Starbucks. One of the main reasons the corporate press are so strongly opposed to Jeremy Corbyn is that they know that unlike David Cameron, he's serious when he talks about clamping down on tax-dodging. Stop major corporations ripping off their suppliers Major corporations are withholding an astounding £26 billion through late payment, which is responsible for an estimated 50,000 small businesses going bust every year. The scale of this problem is so massive that it should be a national scandal, and Jeremy Corbyn is absolutely right to align himself with small businesses to defend their interests. Reverse the Tory corporation tax cuts Since 2010 the Tories have cut the rate of corporation tax for major multinational corporations from 28% to just 17% (by 2020) meaning the UK has one of the lowest corporation tax rates in the developed world. The global average is 27% and the G7 average is 32.3%. Corbyn is proposing to reverse this ideological race to the bottom madness and restore corporation tax rates back in line with the rest of the developed world. Prevent No Deal Brexit chaos Jeremy Corbyn and the Labour Party are absolutely committed to preventing the UK from crashing out of the EU without agreeing a sensible process first. With Labour the worst possible Brexit option of No Deal will be taken off the table, and the choice will be given back to the public between a "soft" least-damaging version of Brexit (that protects the interests of British businesses and British workers alike) against Remain in a final say referendum. Zero Hours Contracts ban Almost a million UK workers are now on exploitative Zero Hours Contracts. Last year the New Zealand parliament voted to ban them, and Labour is proposing to do the same. Long-term employees and workers doing regular hours would be protected from Zero Hours Contract exploitation. End Tory disability persecution Ever since 2010 the Tories have been brutally persecuting sick, disabled, and terminally ill people. Cutting their pitiful subsistence benefits to pay for even more tax cuts for the rich, confiscating their motability vehicles, forcing them through demeaning corporate-administered "fit for work" disability denial assessments, even making terminally ill people sign on if they survive for more than six months! Labour would scrap all of this, and build a new, more compassionate system to actually help the most vulnerable and unfortunate people in our society, rather than abusing and impoverishing them, and making them feel like useless idle scroungers who should just go and kill themselves. House building Under the Tory government the level of UK housebuilding has slumped to the lowest levels since the 1920s, even though demand for housing is extremely high. Labour are guaranteeing investment in a programme of house building, and committing to ensure that half of the new houses are social housing. This wouldn't just alleviate the housing crisis, it would also stimulate the economy (creation of skilled jobs, demand for supplies and materials, less disposable income being wasted on rip-off private rents ...). Combat inequality Tory austerity fanaticism resulted in the longest sustained decline in workers' wages since records began and condemned an additional 400,000 children to growing up in poverty, meanwhile the tiny super-rich majority literally doubled their wealth. Labour is pledging to reduce the inequality gap and introduce progressive policies to reduce the gap between the incomes of the highest and lowest paid. There is plenty of evidence to show that the least unequal societies are more economically successful places where the people are happier. Wonder which ones the little englanders dislikeWhat a load of rubbish Labours policies are. I don't think anybody will bother discussing it with you with comments like that More holes in those than swiss cheese, just looking at the housing headline alone
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Post by sheikhmomo on Nov 1, 2019 9:59:47 GMT
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Post by yeokel on Nov 1, 2019 10:07:40 GMT
Labour Party policies Ban companies based in tax havens bidding for government contracts It's astounding that this isn't the case already. How on earth could anyone even attempt to justify taxpayers' cash being paid to companies based in tax havens for the purpose of dodging tax? £10 minimum wage for all workers over the age of 18 The UK is the only country in the developed world where workers' wages are declining in real terms, while the economy is actually growing. A £10 minimum wage would help to reverse this scenario, and it would also significantly reduce the cost of in-work benefits like tax credits and housing benefit (most of which goes to working families these days). and so on, and so on.... Wonder which ones the little englanders dislike What a load of rubbish Labours policies are. A big long list, as above…. Much of that was available to the last Labour government. Why do you think they didn’t do it then, when they had the power? Also, your list doesn't seem to including scrapping Trident. Is that not policy any longer? What is their policy on HS2?
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Post by salopstick on Nov 1, 2019 10:18:55 GMT
Labour Party policies Ban companies based in tax havens bidding for government contracts It's astounding that this isn't the case already. How on earth could anyone even attempt to justify taxpayers' cash being paid to companies based in tax havens for the purpose of dodging tax? £10 minimum wage for all workers over the age of 18 The UK is the only country in the developed world where workers' wages are declining in real terms, while the economy is actually growing. A £10 minimum wage would help to reverse this scenario, and it would also significantly reduce the cost of in-work benefits like tax credits and housing benefit (most of which goes to working families these days). and so on, and so on.... Wonder which ones the little englanders dislike What a load of rubbish Labours policies are. A big long list, as above…. Much of that was available to the last Labour government. Why do you think they didn’t do it then, when they had the power? Also, your list doesn't seem to including scrapping Trident. Is that not policy any longer? What is their policy on HS2? They are all great policies id love most of them Where are the hidden policies that labour and Corbin will like but not the general public. Defence etc When will labour tell me how much it will cost me. Will my vat, ni, income tax etc go up Will it cause inflation as businesses put up prices to pay all these extras? It’s very easy to promise the earth
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Post by yeokel on Nov 1, 2019 10:19:43 GMT
Your headline reads “Tory ministers accused of spending………” Is there any substance to the accusation? Who accused them? Was it you? Or Essex? Or Huddy (what ever happened to him?)? Or my aunt Fanny down the road? Come back when the accusation has become an actual story with some facts and proof. (I’ve not read the article as I seem to be expected to allow them to distribute my personal data all over the world, so any chance of a cut n paste?)
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Post by Eggybread on Nov 1, 2019 10:46:42 GMT
A big long list, as above…. Much of that was available to the last Labour government. Why do you think they didn’t do it then, when they had the power? Also, your list doesn't seem to including scrapping Trident. Is that not policy any longer? What is their policy on HS2? They are all great policies id love most of them Where are the hidden policies that labour and Corbin will like but not the general public. Defence etc When will labour tell me how much it will cost me. Will my vat, ni, income tax etc go up Will it cause inflation as businesses put up prices to pay all these extras? It’s very easy to promise the earth When will we know the real cost of Brexit which some people on here are following blindly?
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Post by sheikhmomo on Nov 1, 2019 10:48:13 GMT
Your headline reads “Tory ministers accused of spending………” Is there any substance to the accusation? Who accused them? Was it you? Or Essex? Or Huddy (what ever happened to him?)? Or my aunt Fanny down the road? Come back when the accusation has become an actual story with some facts and proof. (I’ve not read the article as I seem to be expected to allow them to distribute my personal data all over the world, so any chance of a cut n paste?) You haven't read it have you.
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Post by harryburrows on Nov 1, 2019 10:48:38 GMT
Labour Party policies Ban companies based in tax havens bidding for government contracts It's astounding that this isn't the case already. How on earth could anyone even attempt to justify taxpayers' cash being paid to companies based in tax havens for the purpose of dodging tax? £10 minimum wage for all workers over the age of 18 The UK is the only country in the developed world where workers' wages are declining in real terms, while the economy is actually growing. A £10 minimum wage would help to reverse this scenario, and it would also significantly reduce the cost of in-work benefits like tax credits and housing benefit (most of which goes to working families these days). The Tories have are trying to outflank this by saying they'll raise the minimum wage to £10.50, but that's only by 2024, Labour's would come in immediately. All rented accommodation to be fit for human habitation Again, astounding that this isn't the case already, but in January 2016 the Tories (over 1/3 of whom are landlords) deliberately voted down a Labour Party amendment to their housing bill to ensure that all rented accommodation is fit for human habitation. Renationalise the railways This is a very popular policy that is supported by an overwhelming majority of the public. Do you support rail renationalisation too, or are you one of the minority who think that the current rip-off profiteer-administered shambles is acceptable? Renationalise the NHS The Tory party have been carving up the English NHS and distributing the pieces to the private sector, Jeremy Corbyn has pledged to reverse this process. Are you one of the 84% of people who thinks the NHS should be run as a not-for-profit public service, or one of the 7% who agree with the ongoing Tory privatisation agenda? Free school meals The policy of providing free school meals to all school children between the ages of 4 and 11 is based on evidence based research showing that universal free school meals lead to significantly improved grades. It will be paid for by ending the generous tax breaks (public subsidies) for the 7% of kids who go to private fee-paying schools. Create a National Education Service Jeremy Corbyn believes that education is a right, not a commodity. He wants to create an integrated National Education Service to ensure that education is freely available to anyone who needs it, no matter their age, income, or background. Scrap tuition fees Thanks to the Tories (and their Lib-Dem enablers) UK students now face the most expensive tuition fees in the developed world for study at public universities, meaning students typically leave university with £50,000 of debt, and two thirds of them will never pay off their student debts. Labour would end this lunacy by getting rid of student fees. Restore NHS Bursaries One of the first things Theresa My did when she came to power in 2016 was to scrap NHS bursaries for nurses and other NHS workers. This removal of financial support for trainee nurses has caused a huge decline in the number of applicants to nursing courses. The NHS is facing a vast recruitment crisis, and restoring NHS bursaries and investing heavily in medical training is the only way to prevent even more than the 130,000 avoidable deaths already caused by Tory austerity cuts to the NHS and social care systems. Increase the carers' allowance Labour are proposing to increase the Carers Allowance for the 1 million unpaid carers in the UK. This would be paid for by scrapping the Tories' Inheritance Tax cut for millionaires. Unpaid carers save the UK economy an estimated £132 million a year, and they've been doing ever more work as a result of the £4.6 billion in Tory cuts to the social care budget. Create a National Investment Bank This is actually one of Jeremy Corbyn's best policies, but few people actually understand it. It's absolutely clear that allowing private banks to determine where money is invested ends up in huge speculative bubbles in housing and financial derivatives, while the real economy is starved of cash. A National Investment Bank would work by investing in things like infrastructure, services, businesses and regional development projects, and would end up becoming a kind of sovereign wealth fund for the UK. End the public sector pay freeze Under Tory rule UK workers have suffered the longest sustained decline in real wages since records began. The public sector pay freeze contributed massively to this. You'd have to be economically illiterate to imagine that repressing public sector wages with below inflation pay rises for year after year would not exert downwards pressure on private sector wages too. Ending the public sector pay freeze would actually boost the economy by putting more money in people's pockets, meaning an increase in aggregate demand. End sweetheart tax deals between HMRC and massive corporations David Cameron (the son of a tax-dodger) repeatedly lied through his teeth about how serious he was about confronting tax-dodging, whilst allowing HMRC to concoct sweetheart deals with corporations like Google, Vodafone and Starbucks. One of the main reasons the corporate press are so strongly opposed to Jeremy Corbyn is that they know that unlike David Cameron, he's serious when he talks about clamping down on tax-dodging. Stop major corporations ripping off their suppliers Major corporations are withholding an astounding £26 billion through late payment, which is responsible for an estimated 50,000 small businesses going bust every year. The scale of this problem is so massive that it should be a national scandal, and Jeremy Corbyn is absolutely right to align himself with small businesses to defend their interests. Reverse the Tory corporation tax cuts Since 2010 the Tories have cut the rate of corporation tax for major multinational corporations from 28% to just 17% (by 2020) meaning the UK has one of the lowest corporation tax rates in the developed world. The global average is 27% and the G7 average is 32.3%. Corbyn is proposing to reverse this ideological race to the bottom madness and restore corporation tax rates back in line with the rest of the developed world. Prevent No Deal Brexit chaos Jeremy Corbyn and the Labour Party are absolutely committed to preventing the UK from crashing out of the EU without agreeing a sensible process first. With Labour the worst possible Brexit option of No Deal will be taken off the table, and the choice will be given back to the public between a "soft" least-damaging version of Brexit (that protects the interests of British businesses and British workers alike) against Remain in a final say referendum. Zero Hours Contracts ban Almost a million UK workers are now on exploitative Zero Hours Contracts. Last year the New Zealand parliament voted to ban them, and Labour is proposing to do the same. Long-term employees and workers doing regular hours would be protected from Zero Hours Contract exploitation. End Tory disability persecution Ever since 2010 the Tories have been brutally persecuting sick, disabled, and terminally ill people. Cutting their pitiful subsistence benefits to pay for even more tax cuts for the rich, confiscating their motability vehicles, forcing them through demeaning corporate-administered "fit for work" disability denial assessments, even making terminally ill people sign on if they survive for more than six months! Labour would scrap all of this, and build a new, more compassionate system to actually help the most vulnerable and unfortunate people in our society, rather than abusing and impoverishing them, and making them feel like useless idle scroungers who should just go and kill themselves. House building Under the Tory government the level of UK housebuilding has slumped to the lowest levels since the 1920s, even though demand for housing is extremely high. Labour are guaranteeing investment in a programme of house building, and committing to ensure that half of the new houses are social housing. This wouldn't just alleviate the housing crisis, it would also stimulate the economy (creation of skilled jobs, demand for supplies and materials, less disposable income being wasted on rip-off private rents ...). Combat inequality Tory austerity fanaticism resulted in the longest sustained decline in workers' wages since records began and condemned an additional 400,000 children to growing up in poverty, meanwhile the tiny super-rich majority literally doubled their wealth. Labour is pledging to reduce the inequality gap and introduce progressive policies to reduce the gap between the incomes of the highest and lowest paid. There is plenty of evidence to show that the least unequal societies are more economically successful places where the people are happier. Wonder which ones the little englanders dislike What a load of rubbish Labours policies are. I would love to see of those policies implemented, especially the zero hours and public sector pay freeze , nhs bursaries, my daughter in law is currently paying £ 27 k to train as a midwife. Much of the rest is hyperbole, a bit like my kids Christmas letter to santa
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Post by Eggybread on Nov 1, 2019 10:50:10 GMT
Labour Party policies Ban companies based in tax havens bidding for government contracts It's astounding that this isn't the case already. How on earth could anyone even attempt to justify taxpayers' cash being paid to companies based in tax havens for the purpose of dodging tax? £10 minimum wage for all workers over the age of 18 The UK is the only country in the developed world where workers' wages are declining in real terms, while the economy is actually growing. A £10 minimum wage would help to reverse this scenario, and it would also significantly reduce the cost of in-work benefits like tax credits and housing benefit (most of which goes to working families these days). and so on, and so on.... Wonder which ones the little englanders dislike What a load of rubbish Labours policies are. A big long list, as above…. Much of that was available to the last Labour government. Why do you think they didn’t do it then, when they had the power? Also, your list doesn't seem to including scrapping Trident. Is that not policy any longer? What is their policy on HS2? Party policy as it has been for a while is to keep Trident and review it. HS2= They support it but will review costs,environment .The need for better transport network is agreed.
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Post by yeokel on Nov 1, 2019 10:54:35 GMT
Your headline reads “Tory ministers accused of spending………” Is there any substance to the accusation? Who accused them? Was it you? Or Essex? Or Huddy (what ever happened to him?)? Or my aunt Fanny down the road? Come back when the accusation has become an actual story with some facts and proof. (I’ve not read the article as I seem to be expected to allow them to distribute my personal data all over the world, so any chance of a cut n paste?) You haven't read it have you. No. You haven't read my post, have you?
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Post by serpico on Nov 1, 2019 11:11:38 GMT
Both parties spend like a drunken housewife, conservatives aren’t conservative anymore and labour will destroy private sector jobs and cause more state dependency. On the whole I think Corbyn is the more dangerous, they’re a party of dilettantes, have any of them ever worked in the real world ?
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Post by sheikhmomo on Nov 1, 2019 11:21:04 GMT
You haven't read it have you. No. You haven't read my post, have you? Yes. Its nonsense but I've read it.
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Post by LL Cool Dave on Nov 1, 2019 11:34:39 GMT
Brexit Party contesting every seat available.
Fucking brilliant news!
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Post by Deleted on Nov 1, 2019 11:38:02 GMT
Abolish the House of Lords and create elected second chamber
Replace first past the post voting system and shift to proportional representation
Mandatory by-elections if MPs change political party
Non-payment of the £39 billion Brexit bill
Slash the foreign aid budget
Scrap the High Speed 2 railway network
Create a high growth, low tax economy
Zero business rates for high street shops
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That is some manifesto.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 1, 2019 11:39:55 GMT
Brexit Party contesting every seat available. Fucking brilliant news! Yes with our retarded FPTP system maybe Remain will be able to take power with a lower % of the vote than brexit supporting parties. Fantastic. Hoorah for democrazy.
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Post by essexstokey on Nov 1, 2019 11:41:07 GMT
Labour party policies Spend Spend Spend Spend Spend Spend Spend Spend Spend Oh, I've missed one. Spend where as the tories is bribe the dup bribe the dup oh and use the magic money tree!! labours policies costed out and a financial document accompneying there pledgeds wonder where the tories one is or any other party!! some on here don't like corbyn that's fine I don't either but look at labours policies and tell me how can any working person not like them!! re nationalisation of water, trains, electricity the post office would cost money at first but this is more than offset by lower bills profits going back to the public purse instead of dividends to shareholders and re investment in our inferstructure instead of putting profits first and the gaining of national assets in truth a balanced approach loans - assets would be equal !! Look at all partys policies and vote on them not the leader !! there is one main difference between Labour and the tories labour the members make the policies the tories its the rich elite !! for the many not the few !! don't be conned by the conservatives!!
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Post by Davef on Nov 1, 2019 11:51:08 GMT
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Post by essexstokey on Nov 1, 2019 11:53:08 GMT
Labour Party policies Ban companies based in tax havens bidding for government contracts It's astounding that this isn't the case already. How on earth could anyone even attempt to justify taxpayers' cash being paid to companies based in tax havens for the purpose of dodging tax? £10 minimum wage for all workers over the age of 18 The UK is the only country in the developed world where workers' wages are declining in real terms, while the economy is actually growing. A £10 minimum wage would help to reverse this scenario, and it would also significantly reduce the cost of in-work benefits like tax credits and housing benefit (most of which goes to working families these days). and so on, and so on.... Wonder which ones the little englanders dislike What a load of rubbish Labours policies are. A big long list, as above…. Much of that was available to the last Labour government. Why do you think they didn’t do it then, when they had the power? Because they were sorting the mess out of the tory underinvestment and tax cuts for the rich that resulted to education and hospitals infrastructure crumbling while also bailing out the bankers that put the country in massive debtAlso, your list doesn't seem to including scrapping Trident. Is that not policy any longer? As I said on another thread labours policies come from the membership and the membership voted against thisWhat is their policy on HS2? To look at it again I think while also extending it to the areas the government cut the line from ie leeds creating a northern infrastructure and northern power house (something the tories promised but never went through with !! I wonder why!
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