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Post by sheikhmomo on Dec 7, 2019 0:24:09 GMT
Yeah but nothing to do with the Mayor is what you're saying, right? You like statistics, crime in London was far less under Johnson than it is under Khan, don't you agree? I still don't get your point caller, are you saying that Police numbers are irrelevant or not?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 7, 2019 0:28:20 GMT
Both Johnson and Trump have outright blamed Khan for crime in London, the latter in particular with racist overtones. Not fair then in your view? Crime was fewer when Boris was Mayor and that was when May was cutting police numbers. www.statista.com/statistics/380963/london-crime-rate/Crime fell by the same or in some cases more across the country as a whole during that period. Which would suggest it wasn't anything to do with Johnson or his policies.......
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Post by serpico on Dec 7, 2019 9:21:23 GMT
If labour somehow get into power and hold a “people’s vote” I, And i suspect many others, would boycott it.
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Post by sheikhmomo on Dec 7, 2019 9:43:04 GMT
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Post by royalewithcheese on Dec 7, 2019 10:27:01 GMT
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Post by sheikhmomo on Dec 7, 2019 10:42:06 GMT
Not a fan of coldwar steve?
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Post by essexstokey on Dec 7, 2019 10:57:35 GMT
I haven’t seen it but if momo is saying a draw I assume boris battered him Not at all it was restrained that's all. Corbyn looks Prime Ministerial against Johnson which might influence a few genuine undecideds, the debate was an even to and fro with a few surprise wins for either side. Labour needed a win which they didn't get for sure but I sense a genuine weariness with Johnson's one club approach. Corbyn has many issues but Johnson's biggest problem is that he is a slippery twat. Anyone with a basic reading of the human condition cam see that and I wonder if it might cost him a fair few votes in the end? hopefully 6000 to labour in his constituency
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Post by M on Dec 7, 2019 11:02:18 GMT
Not at all it was restrained that's all. Corbyn looks Prime Ministerial against Johnson which might influence a few genuine undecideds, the debate was an even to and fro with a few surprise wins for either side. Labour needed a win which they didn't get for sure but I sense a genuine weariness with Johnson's one club approach. Corbyn has many issues but Johnson's biggest problem is that he is a slippery twat. Anyone with a basic reading of the human condition cam see that and I wonder if it might cost him a fair few votes in the end? hopefully 6000 to labour in his constituency It was just a drab boring affair. You could tell they were both playing it safe with a week to go. Most contentious bits were probably Corbyn looking a bit pissed off at Boris trying to call him racist and Boris laughing along with the audience who were laughing at him being asked about honesty in politics. I wish I'd have watched I'm a Celeb to be fair. Even my 9 year old wanted to watch the debate and fell asleep during it. He did make my laugh though by saying "will Boris turn up for this one?“ at the beginning
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Post by algor on Dec 7, 2019 11:21:48 GMT
Not at all it was restrained that's all. Corbyn looks Prime Ministerial against Johnson which might influence a few genuine undecideds, the debate was an even to and fro with a few surprise wins for either side. Labour needed a win which they didn't get for sure but I sense a genuine weariness with Johnson's one club approach. Corbyn has many issues but Johnson's biggest problem is that he is a slippery twat. Anyone with a basic reading of the human condition cam see that and I wonder if it might cost him a fair few votes in the end? hopefully 6000 to labour in his constituency Good luck with that!
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Post by algor on Dec 7, 2019 11:25:00 GMT
hopefully 6000 to labour in his constituency It was just a drab boring affair. You could tell they were both playing it safe with a week to go. Most contentious bits were probably Corbyn looking a bit pissed off at Boris trying to call him racist and Boris laughing along with the audience who were laughing at him being asked about honesty in politics. I wish I'd have watched I'm a Celeb to be fair. Even my 9 year old wanted to watch the debate and fell asleep during it. He did make my laugh though by saying "will Boris turn up for this one?“ at the beginning The audience were laughing at the Bermuda triangle comment. Don't let that stop you making things up though, it doesn't normally.
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Post by M on Dec 7, 2019 11:41:12 GMT
It was just a drab boring affair. You could tell they were both playing it safe with a week to go. Most contentious bits were probably Corbyn looking a bit pissed off at Boris trying to call him racist and Boris laughing along with the audience who were laughing at him being asked about honesty in politics. I wish I'd have watched I'm a Celeb to be fair. Even my 9 year old wanted to watch the debate and fell asleep during it. He did make my laugh though by saying "will Boris turn up for this one?“ at the beginning The audience were laughing at the Bermuda triangle comment. Don't let that stop you making things up though, it doesn't normally. Bless
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Post by wagsastokie on Dec 7, 2019 11:50:20 GMT
An enjoyable ten minutes this morning A Liberal Democrat canvaser knocked on the door
His opening line was what are the chances of having your support on Thursday after politely telling him he has more chance of finding a bucket of rocking horse shit He then went on to ask why ten minutes latter even he had to admit swinson is a bit of a liability and it isnt democratic to ignore a majority vote
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Post by claytonscrubs on Dec 7, 2019 12:28:43 GMT
Superb stuff!!👍... This livid, lifelong Labour voter tears into the outrageously camp sounding Barry Gardiner over Brexit.
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Post by sheikhmomo on Dec 7, 2019 13:09:00 GMT
This is brilliant
You won’t be surprised to learn that I won’t be voting Tory on Thursday, for much the same reasons that I won’t be spending the day kicking children and pensioners into traffic. It’s depressing to think how many polling stations are in schools, and how many people will vote Conservative after walking past a motivational rainbow. As we saw in Stanley Johnson’s Pinocchio gaffe, there is a problem with our elites programming their traumatised children with the idea that they are born to rule. It becomes almost impossible, as a class, to hide your contempt. It’s difficult to keep lying convincingly about things you’ve convinced yourself your audience are too stupid to notice. This current iteration of Conservatism, a kind of mutant nationalism that insists all our infrastructure has to be owned by other countries, has nowhere to go but into an asset-stripped, deregulated wasteland. I don’t know how anyone votes for that, or what happens after they do. British people don’t get on well enough to form militia.
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Post by M on Dec 7, 2019 13:15:46 GMT
This is brilliant You won’t be surprised to learn that I won’t be voting Tory on Thursday, for much the same reasons that I won’t be spending the day kicking children and pensioners into traffic. It’s depressing to think how many polling stations are in schools, and how many people will vote Conservative after walking past a motivational rainbow. As we saw in Stanley Johnson’s Pinocchio gaffe, there is a problem with our elites programming their traumatised children with the idea that they are born to rule. It becomes almost impossible, as a class, to hide your contempt. It’s difficult to keep lying convincingly about things you’ve convinced yourself your audience are too stupid to notice. This current iteration of Conservatism, a kind of mutant nationalism that insists all our infrastructure has to be owned by other countries, has nowhere to go but into an asset-stripped, deregulated wasteland. I don’t know how anyone votes for that, or what happens after they do. British people don’t get on well enough to form militia.Thatchers greatest achievement was turning the working class against themselves.
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Post by crapslinger on Dec 7, 2019 13:17:31 GMT
This is brilliant You won’t be surprised to learn that I won’t be voting Tory on Thursday, for much the same reasons that I won’t be spending the day kicking children and pensioners into traffic. It’s depressing to think how many polling stations are in schools, and how many people will vote Conservative after walking past a motivational rainbow. As we saw in Stanley Johnson’s Pinocchio gaffe, there is a problem with our elites programming their traumatised children with the idea that they are born to rule. It becomes almost impossible, as a class, to hide your contempt. It’s difficult to keep lying convincingly about things you’ve convinced yourself your audience are too stupid to notice. This current iteration of Conservatism, a kind of mutant nationalism that insists all our infrastructure has to be owned by other countries, has nowhere to go but into an asset-stripped, deregulated wasteland. I don’t know how anyone votes for that, or what happens after they do. British people don’t get on well enough to form militia.Wow coming from that well respected alcoholic comedian Frankie fecking Boyle
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Post by bathstoke on Dec 7, 2019 13:49:03 GMT
It was just a drab boring affair. You could tell they were both playing it safe with a week to go. Most contentious bits were probably Corbyn looking a bit pissed off at Boris trying to call him racist and Boris laughing along with the audience who were laughing at him being asked about honesty in politics. I wish I'd have watched I'm a Celeb to be fair. Even my 9 year old wanted to watch the debate and fell asleep during it. He did make my laugh though by saying "will Boris turn up for this one?“ at the beginning The audience were laughing at the Bermuda triangle comment. Don't let that stop you making things up though, it doesn't normally. “The audience”, it was a couple of tw@ts at the back at most...
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Post by salopstick on Dec 7, 2019 15:35:54 GMT
Superb stuff!!👍... This livid, lifelong Labour voter tears into the outrageously camp sounding Barry Gardiner over Brexit. And that is labours problem. You lose the trust of the voters over Brexit, you take the support for granted. how are they to supposed to believe the rest of the manifesto. They don’t realise it now and somehow I don’t think they will realise it on Dec 13th The champagne socialists don’t elect a labour government they need the labour heartlands. S Wales May indeed go the same route in Scotland. They don’t have a great record in the welsh parliment. Labour could be in the doldrums for a very long time. I think the problem started with so many out of touch privileged labour candidates , with backgrounds in labour politics only that have never really resonated with the labour support
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Post by Deleted on Dec 7, 2019 15:45:58 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Dec 7, 2019 16:08:51 GMT
Did someone mention Thatcher. That bitch should have been strangled at birth! No apology for saying that, so don't ask!
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Post by Deleted on Dec 7, 2019 17:10:14 GMT
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Post by M on Dec 7, 2019 19:02:29 GMT
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Post by claytonscrubs on Dec 7, 2019 20:39:35 GMT
Superb stuff!!👍... This livid, lifelong Labour voter tears into the outrageously camp sounding Barry Gardiner over Brexit. And that is labours problem. You lose the trust of the voters over Brexit, you take the support for granted. how are they to supposed to believe the rest of the manifesto. They don’t realise it now and somehow I don’t think they will realise it on Dec 13th The champagne socialists don’t elect a labour government they need the labour heartlands. S Wales May indeed go the same route in Scotland. They don’t have a great record in the welsh parliment. Labour could be in the doldrums for a very long time. I think the problem started with so many out of touch privileged labour candidates , with backgrounds in labour politics only that have never really resonated with the labour support The problem started when Ed Miliband introduced a ‘one member, one vote’ system that elected Corbyn...a terrible error in judgment!! A moderate, halfway-competent Labour Party could have crushed the Tories, but they’re been taken over by a mob of far-left loons, and made themselves unelectable, IMO. What seems clear is that Labour have lost support in its traditional heartlands of the Midlands, North and Wales (they’ve already lost Scotland). The big problem for Labour is that once their historic heartlands start to defect to the Tories there might be no going back. Decades of tribal loyalty will be shaken up, making the idea of voting for a party other than Labour at future elections far more acceptable.
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Post by Miles Offside on Dec 7, 2019 20:47:28 GMT
I've got no appetite for voting for bumbling Boris, but until Labour find a leader worthy of the name, I will.
Labour almost seem like they wallow in being the party of shouty opposition. Why else would they have the likes of Foot, Kinnock, Milliband and Corbyn as their leaders?
Plus I can't remember a Labour government that left office without leaving the country broke.
I heard an interesting stat on TV last night - when Labour left office in 2010 the UK was borrowing £1 in every £4 it spent. Now it's £1 in every £34.
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Post by bathstoke on Dec 7, 2019 20:48:32 GMT
🙄 That don’t matter, cause cnuts know better💋
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Post by crapslinger on Dec 7, 2019 21:04:54 GMT
And that is labours problem. You lose the trust of the voters over Brexit, you take the support for granted. how are they to supposed to believe the rest of the manifesto. They don’t realise it now and somehow I don’t think they will realise it on Dec 13th The champagne socialists don’t elect a labour government they need the labour heartlands. S Wales May indeed go the same route in Scotland. They don’t have a great record in the welsh parliment. Labour could be in the doldrums for a very long time. I think the problem started with so many out of touch privileged labour candidates , with backgrounds in labour politics only that have never really resonated with the labour support The problem started when Ed Miliband introduced a ‘one member, one vote’ system that elected Corbyn...a terrible error in judgment!! A moderate, halfway-competent Labour Party could have crushed the Tories, but they’re been taken over by a mob of far-left loons, and made themselves unelectable, IMO. What seems clear is that Labour have lost support in its traditional heartlands of the Midlands, North and Wales (they’ve already lost Scotland). The big problem for Labour is that once their historic heartlands start to defect to the Tories there might be no going back. Decades of tribal loyalty will be shaken up, making the idea of voting for a party other than Labour at future elections far more acceptable. I have never voted Tory in my life, my family have all come from hardworking backgrounds all dyed in the wool Labour voters, I vote in every election and up until the last one have always voted labour when I voted for UKIP, my mother would turn in her grave if I vote Tory that said I would never vote for a Corbinsky lead Labour Party. The Tories will romp home in my constituency anyway so I am seriously considering not voting for the first time ever, this is what these left wing nutters have driven me to, I wonder how many others feel the same as I do.
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Post by followyoudown on Dec 7, 2019 21:20:47 GMT
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Post by bathstoke on Dec 7, 2019 21:24:41 GMT
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Post by essexstokey on Dec 7, 2019 21:31:39 GMT
Boris Johnson condemned in brutal direct attack by London Bridge victim's father: 'He’s the worst of us and he’s taking you for a ride' link
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Post by essexstokey on Dec 7, 2019 21:38:24 GMT
General election: Anger as Boris Johnson refuses to attend his own constituency hustings link
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