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Post by Goonie on Sept 24, 2019 22:22:41 GMT
It’ll be Pearson mate, I’m almost certain of it www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/47111137Suppose managers sacked by Belgian Div 2 teams are about our level now to be fair.... And he does tick the old skool box! Pearson leaves with the club bottom in their division's overall classification, having managed just 22 points from 24 games And that's still better than Jones!
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Post by rorystowel on Sept 24, 2019 22:59:35 GMT
Just as long as we avoid Sherlock Holmes. He comes highly recommended by Jones.
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Post by royegg on Sept 24, 2019 23:10:29 GMT
Hughton Hughton Hughton
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Post by hanibal7 on Sept 25, 2019 1:37:48 GMT
Hughton is rightly first choice for many and can't see past him as #1. Can't see Moyes or Allardyce being interested. The only thought was that we are starting to enter sack season, as Watford showed, meaning some candidates will be emerging soon. On this list, I would expect Steve Bruce and potentially Neil Warnock, both of whom would fit the bill given our challenge. Unfortunately Jones is so ridiculously bad it doesn't feel we can wait that long! If the board are serious about getting out of this, we might have to tempt someone of their current club. Can't be bothered to work it out, but its kinda 3pts for helping a struggling team stay up, 3pts for promotion, 1pt for play offs, 1pt for attractive football, 1pt per 25 games managed in the Championships etc over the past 5-6 years (to max of 3pts), 3pts for a >40% win ratio, 2pts for a 35-40% win ratio. 1. Hughton 2. Bruce * 3. Warnock * 4. Pulis 5 Laudrup 6.Pearson 7.Neil + 8.Carvahal 9.Potter * 10Redknapp 11Karanka 12 Di Matteo 13 McCarthy 14 Mowbray + *wait for sack, +approach club Wildcard (not based on anything at all!): John Terry, Claude Puel. Steve Bould????, not seen him on the bench with Arsenal.
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Post by thevoid on Sept 25, 2019 6:51:18 GMT
Nigel Adkins got Hull out of a rut and was wrongly dismissed in the summer. Decent record and more Premier League promotions under his belt than Gary Rowett.
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Post by FullerMagic on Sept 25, 2019 7:33:10 GMT
Homzy and Trousers seem to be aboard the Pulis if needs absolutely must train.
Not sure I'm remotely there yet!
But if we did get a succession of 'no's from 2-3 of the obvious non-Pulis options, you'd reckon that's where their eyes would have to be drawn.
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Post by FullerMagic on Sept 25, 2019 12:19:40 GMT
Moyes into 5/2 from 10/1 a couple of days ago for the Everton job
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Post by loustokiefc on Sept 25, 2019 14:55:43 GMT
I think Jones’ time is up, no matter what the result come Friday. The question obviously is who could do the job?
Hughton?? I would love, but I doubt will come due to his friendship and loyalty towards Jones.
Alex Neil?? Would hugely be my first and preferred choice as new manager. Done a great job wherever he has been. Would he come however? Probably not!
Tony Pulis?? I wouldn’t actually mind seeing Pulis back. Would defo sort out the mess we’re in and stabilise the club short term. Also, he knows the area and is really passionate towards the club. Stoke city Legend and wins games at this level no doubt. Would he come back? Yes he probably would. Also I believe the players at our disposal will suit his style of play.
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Sept 25, 2019 14:58:09 GMT
Homzy and Trousers seem to be aboard the Pulis if needs absolutely must train. Not sure I'm remotely there yet! But if we did get a succession of 'no's from 2-3 of the obvious non-Pulis options, you'd reckon that's where their eyes would have to be drawn. If we can't get Hughton it's going to be him isn't it...
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Post by medwaypotter on Sept 25, 2019 14:59:23 GMT
I think Jones’ time is up, no matter what the result come Friday. The question obviously is who could do the job? Hughton?? I would love, but I doubt will come due to his friendship and loyalty towards Jones. Alex Neil?? Would hugely be my first and preferred choice as new manager. Done a great job wherever he has been. Would he come however? Probably not! Tony Pulis?? I wouldn’t actually mind seeing Pulis back. Would defo sort out the mess we’re in and stabilise the club short term. Also, he knows the area and is really passionate towards the club. Stoke city Legend and wins games at this level no doubt. Would he come back? Yes he probably would. Also I believe the players at our disposal will suit his style of play. I'd honestly rather stick with Jones than toxic return.
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Post by FullerMagic on Sept 25, 2019 15:12:54 GMT
Homzy and Trousers seem to be aboard the Pulis if needs absolutely must train. Not sure I'm remotely there yet! But if we did get a succession of 'no's from 2-3 of the obvious non-Pulis options, you'd reckon that's where their eyes would have to be drawn. If we can't get Hughton it's going to be him isn't it... If they're forced to get rid of Jones (and they obviously will be by this time next week) - and if they are turned down by Allardyce, Moyes, Hughton and maybe Alex Neil... (and of those, Hughton looks by far the likeliest to take our call) It's very hard to see them going down to their C and D list of Pearson, Adkins etc - if they're the D list God only knows who's on the E and F list given we won't be looking for non-Brits - without first getting on the phone to the safety blanket from Sandbanks, isn't it? Although it is a bit of an unknown what the Coates-Pulis relationship is really like these days - and if it really would mean the exit of Scholes? But I do think they'd probably ultimately do what it took to get him back in that scenario.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 25, 2019 15:18:04 GMT
I'm absolutely terrified about where this is going to end.
We could literally end up with anyone off the merry-go-round.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 25, 2019 15:21:17 GMT
I think Jones’ time is up, no matter what the result come Friday. The question obviously is who could do the job? Hughton?? I would love, but I doubt will come due to his friendship and loyalty towards Jones. Alex Neil?? Would hugely be my first and preferred choice as new manager. Done a great job wherever he has been. Would he come however? Probably not! Tony Pulis?? I wouldn’t actually mind seeing Pulis back. Would defo sort out the mess we’re in and stabilise the club short term. Also, he knows the area and is really passionate towards the club. Stoke city Legend and wins games at this level no doubt. Would he come back? Yes he probably would. Also I believe the players at our disposal will suit his style of play. I'd honestly rather stick with Jones than toxic return. " Stick with Jones" You are having a laugh With a win rate of 12.5% we will be playing Leek Town in the league in 4 years time.
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Sept 25, 2019 15:21:23 GMT
If we can't get Hughton it's going to be him isn't it... If they're forced to get rid of Jones (and they obviously will be by this time next week) - and if they are turned down by Allardyce, Moyes, Hughton and maybe Alex Neil... (and of those, Hughton looks by far the likeliest to take our call) It's very hard to see them going down to their C and D list of Pearson, Adkins etc - if they're the D list God only knows who's on the E and F list given we won't be looking for non-Brits - without first getting on the phone to the safety blanket from Sandbanks, isn't it? Although it is a bit of an unknown what the Coates-Pulis relationship is really like these days - and if it really would mean the exit of Scholes? But I do think they'd probably ultimately do what it took to get him back in that scenario. I keep forgetting about Pearson. He's probably got a puncher's chance hasn't he?
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Post by Clayton Wood on Sept 25, 2019 15:30:31 GMT
If they're forced to get rid of Jones (and they obviously will be by this time next week) - and if they are turned down by Allardyce, Moyes, Hughton and maybe Alex Neil... (and of those, Hughton looks by far the likeliest to take our call) It's very hard to see them going down to their C and D list of Pearson, Adkins etc - if they're the D list God only knows who's on the E and F list given we won't be looking for non-Brits - without first getting on the phone to the safety blanket from Sandbanks, isn't it? Although it is a bit of an unknown what the Coates-Pulis relationship is really like these days - and if it really would mean the exit of Scholes? But I do think they'd probably ultimately do what it took to get him back in that scenario. I keep forgetting about Pearson. He's probably got a puncher's chance hasn't he? I think those were just vicious rumours put about by people he'd actually hit.
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Post by FullerMagic on Sept 25, 2019 15:30:49 GMT
If they're forced to get rid of Jones (and they obviously will be by this time next week) - and if they are turned down by Allardyce, Moyes, Hughton and maybe Alex Neil... (and of those, Hughton looks by far the likeliest to take our call) It's very hard to see them going down to their C and D list of Pearson, Adkins etc - if they're the D list God only knows who's on the E and F list given we won't be looking for non-Brits - without first getting on the phone to the safety blanket from Sandbanks, isn't it? Although it is a bit of an unknown what the Coates-Pulis relationship is really like these days - and if it really would mean the exit of Scholes? But I do think they'd probably ultimately do what it took to get him back in that scenario. I keep forgetting about Pearson. He's probably got a puncher's chance hasn't he? He has got the kind of profile Peter would maybe like - but it'd be a bold choice given that record in Belgian Div 2 - 22 points from 24 games! www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/47111137Assuming they wouldn't go foreign and less experienced, is there anyone more imaginative of that type than this depressing lot? Adkins Pearson MON Pardew Strachan Coleman If not - and if they have already been knocked back by those 4 (Hughton, Big Sam, Moyesy, Neil) , you can see why they may be giving Jones every chance to pull out a win or two before they have to go to TP?
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Post by berahinosgoals on Sept 25, 2019 15:33:47 GMT
There is no saying a manager of a certain profile will work under possible certain conditions at the club. Said it before but every manager stoke have had since pulis saw stoke as a progression of their career or another lucky opportunity. We went for a freshly proven failure in mark hughes as an established club in a good place. Seems to me we hold all the aces with negotiation when recruiting a manager. Are there certain conditions in place that certain managers won't accept?
Jokanovic didn't want it, Qsf didn't want it, are we supposed to believe moyes has never been offered it? O neil even pulled out, that is just 'who' we know about. Even Leslie said 'who else would do it'.
Prove me wrong Mr coates and go out and offer Rafael benitez a big bonus on getting promotion and a promise of big funds to spend upon promotion, the sort of funds & project you were reportedly rumoured to be offering QSF. A massive outlay yes I'll concede, safe hands and a sure bet to stay in the prem with the revenue, highly likely
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Post by nott1 on Sept 25, 2019 15:33:52 GMT
TP it is then as Hughton won't want it.
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Sept 25, 2019 15:38:22 GMT
There is no saying a manager of a certain profile will work under possible certain conditions at the club. Said it before but every manager stoke have had since pulis saw stoke as a progression of their career or another lucky opportunity. We went for a freshly proven failure in mark hughes as an established club in a good place. Seems to me we hold all the aces with negotiation when recruiting a manager. Are there certain conditions in place that certain managers won't accept? Jokanovic didn't want it, Qsf didn't want it, are we supposed to believe moyes has never been offered it? O neil even pulled out, that is just 'who' we know about. Even Leslie said 'who else would do it'. Prove me wrong Mr coates and go out and offer Rafael benitez a big bonus on getting promotion and a promise of big funds to spend upon promotion, the sort of funds & project you were reportedly rumoured to be offering QSF. A massive outlay yes I'll concede, safe hands and a sure bet to stay in the prem with the revenue, highly likely Hughes didn't say "who else would do it".
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Post by berahinosgoals on Sept 25, 2019 15:39:28 GMT
There is no saying a manager of a certain profile will work under possible certain conditions at the club. Said it before but every manager stoke have had since pulis saw stoke as a progression of their career or another lucky opportunity. We went for a freshly proven failure in mark hughes as an established club in a good place. Seems to me we hold all the aces with negotiation when recruiting a manager. Are there certain conditions in place that certain managers won't accept? Jokanovic didn't want it, Qsf didn't want it, are we supposed to believe moyes has never been offered it? O neil even pulled out, that is just 'who' we know about. Even Leslie said 'who else would do it'. Prove me wrong Mr coates and go out and offer Rafael benitez a big bonus on getting promotion and a promise of big funds to spend upon promotion, the sort of funds & project you were reportedly rumoured to be offering QSF. A massive outlay yes I'll concede, safe hands and a sure bet to stay in the prem with the revenue, highly likely Hughes didn't say "who else would do it". He muttered something along those lines for certain
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Sept 25, 2019 15:53:04 GMT
Hughes didn't say "who else would do it". He muttered something along those lines for certain He said "who else is going to do it", suggesting that nobody available would do as good a job as him. He was deludedly talking himself up, not the club down.
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Post by berahinosgoals on Sept 25, 2019 15:55:36 GMT
He muttered something along those lines for certain He said "who else is going to do it", suggesting that nobody available would do as good a job as him. He was deludedly talking himself up, not the club down. I'm not convinced, I think he was conveying a message to the board through frustration myself, it certainly seemed that way to me
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Post by berahinosgoals on Sept 25, 2019 16:01:20 GMT
If leeds can get bielsa why can't we get benitez?
Benitez will pay for himself in the long run given the amount of money we have spent on hiring sub standard managers who make sub standard signings,
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Sept 25, 2019 16:03:33 GMT
He said "who else is going to do it", suggesting that nobody available would do as good a job as him. He was deludedly talking himself up, not the club down. I'm not convinced, I think he was conveying a message to the board through frustration myself, it certainly seemed that way to me Yeah, people were desperate to make it that, but it wasn't, if you actually watch the video and the context in which the question was asked.
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Sept 25, 2019 16:04:41 GMT
If leeds can get bielsa why can't we get benitez? Benitez will pay for himself in the long run given the amount of money we have spent on hiring sub standard managers who make sub standard signings, Because Benitez's stock is a lot higher than Bielsa's was and because Benitez isn't the romantic/eccentric that Bielsa is.
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Sept 25, 2019 16:05:18 GMT
If leeds can get bielsa why can't we get benitez? Benitez will pay for himself in the long run given the amount of money we have spent on hiring sub standard managers who make sub standard signings, Benitez😂😂😂😂Seriously mate
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Post by chigstoke on Sept 25, 2019 16:09:47 GMT
If leeds can get bielsa why can't we get benitez? Benitez will pay for himself in the long run given the amount of money we have spent on hiring sub standard managers who make sub standard signings, What the fuck are you smoking?
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Post by medwaypotter on Sept 25, 2019 16:29:17 GMT
I'd honestly rather stick with Jones than toxic return. " Stick with Jones" You are having a laugh With a win rate of 12.5% we will be playing Leek Town in the league in 4 years time. That's the measure of how much I don't want the capped one back.
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Post by jeycov on Sept 25, 2019 16:29:49 GMT
Chris Coleman ticks most of the boxes. Except his contempt for Ryan
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Post by march4 on Sept 25, 2019 16:34:34 GMT
I’m still musing over Dave’s post from last week saying there will be no return for TP. Has he turned us down?
And if TP won’t join us then who on Earth will?
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