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Post by Boothen on Aug 24, 2019 19:17:36 GMT
May not be a popular choice, and loads will disagree with me, but at this moment in time I reckon big Sam Allardyce could be a decent appointment. Yes it won;t be pretty, but with his firm belief in utilising sports psychology and sports science coupled with his man management skills perhaps he could get something out of this group of players.
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Post by harlequin on Aug 24, 2019 19:17:43 GMT
We need someone who can play a formation suited to our best players. I'd hate to say it, but didn't Mick Mcarthy play some type of Christmas tree formation ---------------Hogan--------------- ----------Powell--Duffy----------- Verlinden---------------Ince------ ----------Etebo--Clucas---------- Ward--Batth---Collins---Smith I would have a look at him if Moyes and Hughton aren't interested. .. What is it with these formations without a keeper? Is this the next level??? Yeah just noticed. I'm not going to lie, it needs work.
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Post by citynickscfc on Aug 24, 2019 19:18:48 GMT
.. What is it with these formations without a keeper? Is this the next level??? Yeah just noticed. I'm not going to lie, it needs work. I think it would be more attacking and pressing and probably more successful, or possibly the same, as Jones record to be fair. So go for it
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Post by Staying up for... ronzdale on Aug 24, 2019 19:23:05 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Aug 24, 2019 19:23:48 GMT
May not be a popular choice, and loads will disagree with me, but at this moment in time I reckon big Sam Allardyce could be a decent appointment. Yes it won;t be pretty, but with his firm belief in utilising sports psychology and sports science coupled with his man management skills perhaps he could get something out of this group of players. I genuinely think Sam Allardyce and TP are the only managers who could sort out this level of shit.
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Post by ethers26 on Aug 24, 2019 19:25:14 GMT
Going back to a seasoned old type manager seems to be the only possible way out of this mess we've got ourselves into. Two banks of 4 and come and break us down type of attitude seems to be the only escape route! "Seems to be"? Lambert did that. Went well. Jones wasn't going to turn us into a Luton overnight. But it would be good if our supporters supported for once. It makes a massive difference to the players and their confidence.
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Post by wizzardofdribble on Aug 24, 2019 19:25:50 GMT
We need to get the next appointment right?
Fuck me, who would have thought that?
The problem is, as anyone who has supported Stoke long enough knows, Historically we DON'T get it right.
Lambert
Rowett
Jones.
All, arguably, have been worse than their predecessor.
Why should the next manager be any better?
What decent manager would come to Stoke?
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Post by Admin on Aug 24, 2019 19:27:29 GMT
Going back to a seasoned old type manager seems to be the only possible way out of this mess we've got ourselves into. Two banks of 4 and come and break us down type of attitude seems to be the only escape route! Consider your fred merged.
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Post by march4 on Aug 24, 2019 19:28:13 GMT
May not be a popular choice, and loads will disagree with me, but at this moment in time I reckon big Sam Allardyce could be a decent appointment. Yes it won;t be pretty, but with his firm belief in utilising sports psychology and sports science coupled with his man management skills perhaps he could get something out of this group of players. I genuinely think Sam Allardyce and TP are the only managers who could sort out this level of shit. Well said.
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Post by Trouserdog on Aug 24, 2019 19:31:26 GMT
I'm hoping that the gravity of the situation hasn't escaped Peter Coates, because if he thinks he can make some type of 'progressive' appointment, where we have one eye on the future and a five year plan, then he's very much mistaken. This dog's dinner of a squad, in which we've somehow managed to combine expensive, disinterested mercenaries on long contracts and lower league players simply not up to it (probably also on long contracts) needs someone for the short term, who'll get as many of these useless bastards as he can drilled into a basic no-frills system that even the thickest player can understand.
The aim for this season is no longer promotion, it's no longer slow and steady progress, it's now about crisis management and avoiding a catastrophic second relegation.
Chris Hughton could take it on, and is a good enough manager to sort us out. If not him, then I can't think of anyone better than Pulis at whipping a shit squad into a decent, defensive shape on the pitch. I know it's hard to swallow, but they would now be the top two names on my list.
Make no mistake, we are knee deep in shit here, and will be soon be up to our necks unless we do something.
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Post by thevoid on Aug 24, 2019 19:33:51 GMT
Can we have an agreement on another Welshman never coming within a ten mile radius of the Stoke manager's office?
I'm totally done with them
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Post by chigstoke on Aug 24, 2019 19:35:38 GMT
Can we have an agreement on another Welshman never coming within a ten mile radius of the Stoke manager's office? I'm totally done with them You're gonna love it when Pulis, Coleman or Monk rock up then, you know it will be a classic Stoke City move
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Aug 24, 2019 19:35:45 GMT
I'm hoping that the gravity of the situation hasn't escaped Peter Coates, because if he thinks he can make some type of 'progressive' appointment, where we have one eye on the future and a five year plan, then he's very much mistaken. This dog's dinner of a squad, in which we've somehow managed to combine expensive, disinterested mercenaries on long contracts and lower league players simply not up to it (probably also on long contracts) needs someone for the short term, who'll get as many of these useless bastards as he can drilled into a basic no-frills system that even the thickest player can understand. The aim for this season is no longer promotion, it's no longer slow and steady progress, it's now about crisis management and avoiding a catastrophic second relegation. Chris Hughton could take it on, and is a good enough manager to sort us out. If not him, then I can't think of anyone better than Pulis at whipping a shit squad into a decent, defensive shape on the pitch. I know it's hard to swallow, but they would now be the top two names on my list. Make no mistake, we are knee deep in shit here, and will be soon be up to our necks unless we do something. 👏👏👏
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Post by thevoid on Aug 24, 2019 19:37:36 GMT
Can we have an agreement on another Welshman never coming within a ten mile radius of the Stoke manager's office? I'm totally done with them You're gonna love it when Pulis, Coleman or Monk rock up then, you know it will be a classic Stoke City move Monk's English. I'd take Kenny Jackett too- he played for Wales but he's English by birth. Just no more Welshmen- they're either unhinged, purveyors of shit football or both!
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Post by march4 on Aug 24, 2019 19:38:07 GMT
I'm hoping that the gravity of the situation hasn't escaped Peter Coates, because if he thinks he can make some type of 'progressive' appointment, where we have one eye on the future and a five year plan, then he's very much mistaken. This dog's dinner of a squad, in which we've somehow managed to combine expensive, disinterested mercenaries on long contracts and lower league players simply not up to it (probably also on long contracts) needs someone for the short term, who'll get as many of these useless bastards as he can drilled into a basic no-frills system that even the thickest player can understand. The aim for this season is no longer promotion, it's no longer slow and steady progress, it's now about crisis management and avoiding a catastrophic second relegation. Chris Hughton could take it on, and is a good enough manager to sort us out. If not him, then I can't think of anyone better than Pulis at whipping a shit squad into a decent, defensive shape on the pitch. I know it's hard to swallow, but they would now be the top two names on my list. Make no mistake, we are knee deep in shit here, and will be soon be up to our necks unless we do something. As we were discussing on another thread which has mysteriously disappeared. Peter Coates was sitting in his old seat on the front row of the directors’ box today. He hasn’t been there for months. Is this significant?
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Post by Clayton Wood on Aug 24, 2019 19:38:59 GMT
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Post by chigstoke on Aug 24, 2019 19:41:05 GMT
You're gonna love it when Pulis, Coleman or Monk rock up then, you know it will be a classic Stoke City move Monk's English. I'd take Kenny Jackett too- he played for Wales but he's English by birth. Just no more Welshmen- they're either unhinged, purveyors of shit football or both! D'oh, he certainly is English! I solely link him to Swansea which must be why I thought he was Welsh. Yeah the pool of good Welsh managers right now is, erm, 0. Avoid avoid avoid!
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Post by Deleted on Aug 24, 2019 19:43:17 GMT
What about Van Bronckhorst? Could be interesting. First season got Feyeonord the cup and in the second won them the title for the first time in about two decades...
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Post by Deleted on Aug 24, 2019 19:43:38 GMT
He wa. Stay in the premier league and try to move to he next level appointment wasn’t here. Is there any evidence he’s the right man to stop the rot of a club sat at the bottom of the Championship? Genuine question - I don’t know enough about him.
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Post by thevoid on Aug 24, 2019 19:43:52 GMT
What about Van Bronckhorst? Could be interesting. First season got Feyeonord the cup and in the second won them the title for the first time in about two decades... Why on Earth would be come here?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 24, 2019 19:45:04 GMT
What about Van Bronckhorst? Could be interesting. First season got Feyeonord the cup and in the second won them the title for the first time in about two decades... Why on Earth would be come here? Right now he is nowhere, he quit. A big club wouldn't come in for him realistically, we'd be a decent stepping stone for him to prove himself.
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Post by supacoopa101 on Aug 24, 2019 19:46:57 GMT
I'm hoping that the gravity of the situation hasn't escaped Peter Coates, because if he thinks he can make some type of 'progressive' appointment, where we have one eye on the future and a five year plan, then he's very much mistaken. This dog's dinner of a squad, in which we've somehow managed to combine expensive, disinterested mercenaries on long contracts and lower league players simply not up to it (probably also on long contracts) needs someone for the short term, who'll get as many of these useless bastards as he can drilled into a basic no-frills system that even the thickest player can understand. The aim for this season is no longer promotion, it's no longer slow and steady progress, it's now about crisis management and avoiding a catastrophic second relegation. Chris Hughton could take it on, and is a good enough manager to sort us out. If not him, then I can't think of anyone better than Pulis at whipping a shit squad into a decent, defensive shape on the pitch. I know it's hard to swallow, but they would now be the top two names on my list. Make no mistake, we are knee deep in shit here, and will be soon be up to our necks unless we do something. Hard to disagree with any of that really
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Post by chigstoke on Aug 24, 2019 19:47:04 GMT
Why on Earth would be come here? Right now he is nowhere, he quit. A big club wouldn't come in for him realistically, we'd be a decent stepping stone for him to prove himself. He's not British and he's not Pulis so that'd do nicely for me.
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Post by Clayton Wood on Aug 24, 2019 19:48:41 GMT
He wa. Stay in the premier league and try to move to he next level appointment wasn’t here. Is there any evidence he’s the right man to stop the rot of a club sat at the bottom of the Championship? Genuine question - I don’t know enough about him. You'd need to ask realstokebloke he's sill got his poster on the wall I think Closest we came to going foreign so must have been 'acceptable' at one time. Mind if it was John-boy Coates choice I'd steer clear.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 24, 2019 19:49:49 GMT
He wa. Stay in the premier league and try to move to he next level appointment wasn’t here. Is there any evidence he’s the right man to stop the rot of a club sat at the bottom of the Championship? Genuine question - I don’t know enough about him. You'd need to ask realstokebloke he's sill got his poster on the wall I think Closest we came to going foreign so must have been 'acceptable' at one time. Mind if it was John-boy Coates choice I'd steer clear. Hopefully he will come to shed some light on it. I know he was thought be be a great appointment then but my query is whether he is the right man for the job now given the situation is just a tad different!
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Post by thevoid on Aug 24, 2019 19:51:03 GMT
Why on Earth would be come here? Right now he is nowhere, he quit. A big club wouldn't come in for him realistically, we'd be a decent stepping stone for him to prove himself. With a name like Giovanni van Bronkhorst he wouldn't even be considered. He'd have a chance if he was called Geoff Brocklehurst or something more British.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 24, 2019 19:52:02 GMT
Right now he is nowhere, he quit. A big club wouldn't come in for him realistically, we'd be a decent stepping stone for him to prove himself. With a name like Giovanni van Bronkhorst he wouldn't even be considered. He'd have a chance if he was called Geoff Brocklehurst or something more British. Nah “Brocklehurst” has too many syllables
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Post by Deleted on Aug 24, 2019 19:53:38 GMT
Right now he is nowhere, he quit. A big club wouldn't come in for him realistically, we'd be a decent stepping stone for him to prove himself. With a name like Giovanni van Bronkhorst he wouldn't even be considered. He'd have a chance if he was called Geoff Brocklehurst or something more British. Agreed, we're such a brexit club. Possibly the most, 'yer da' team in the country.
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Post by Fred Merger on Aug 24, 2019 19:59:50 GMT
Going back to a seasoned old type manager seems to be the only possible way out of this mess we've got ourselves into. Two banks of 4 and come and break us down type of attitude seems to be the only escape route! Consider your fred mergedcue right on cue admin what took u so long?
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Post by loosestools on Aug 24, 2019 20:03:14 GMT
I'm hoping that the gravity of the situation hasn't escaped Peter Coates, because if he thinks he can make some type of 'progressive' appointment, where we have one eye on the future and a five year plan, then he's very much mistaken. This dog's dinner of a squad, in which we've somehow managed to combine expensive, disinterested mercenaries on long contracts and lower league players simply not up to it (probably also on long contracts) needs someone for the short term, who'll get as many of these useless bastards as he can drilled into a basic no-frills system that even the thickest player can understand. The aim for this season is no longer promotion, it's no longer slow and steady progress, it's now about crisis management and avoiding a catastrophic second relegation. Chris Hughton could take it on, and is a good enough manager to sort us out. If not him, then I can't think of anyone better than Pulis at whipping a shit squad into a decent, defensive shape on the pitch. I know it's hard to swallow, but they would now be the top two names on my list. Make no mistake, we are knee deep in shit here, and will be soon be up to our necks unless we do something. Hurragh!
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