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Post by sheikhmomo on Aug 17, 2020 16:47:03 GMT
I'm sure you know far more about the 1936 Public Order legislation than me Can't answer or won't answer Mo, come on coward these people are breaking the law do you condemn them for breaking the law ???? I think it would be more pertinent to question their motives and aims than any minor infraction of an ancient public order statute myself but if it makes you happy, yes, hang them for wearing uniforms.
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Post by thevoid on Aug 17, 2020 16:54:06 GMT
What I would also say about hate crime is it doesn’t have to be racist to be classed as a hate crime. It can also be due to homophobia, religion, gender, disability. Otherwise known as the right wing staples! I saw the Right Wing Staples in '82. They were supporting The Specials.
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Post by cobhamstokey on Aug 17, 2020 16:56:38 GMT
I will concede that the UK (and, on a bigger scale, the US) does seem to be a much less tolerant and more angry place these days, and I'd suggest that this forum is a microcosm of that. Social media is to blame for a lot of it. No one wants to debate rationally these days, it's just insults. However, to lay it all at the door of 'the right' (which is a fairly broad spectrum) is misleading. Yes, there are people from the far right who have probably become 'emboldened' by Brexit etc, but they will have always held those views, regardless of the outcome, and they usually feel the full weight of the law, such as the Burnley banner idiot. But we've also seen similar traits- vandalism, abuse, threatening/aggressive behaviour- from the other side of the divide and they're just as complicit. Politics has become almost sectarian now in the abuse dished out to people on 'the other side'. Politicians (from all sides) and police officers being threatened and abused barely registers as a shock these days. And as well as this, we're seeing knife crime and acid attack figures through the roof. Paramedics are being attacked when they arrive at a job (which should be classed as a hate crime in itself). This country is a mess, but all sides are culpable. Well said
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Post by partickpotter on Aug 17, 2020 16:58:47 GMT
Otherwise known as the right wing staples! I saw the Right Wing Staples in '82. They were supporting The Specials. Were they Neville’s bro’s?
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Post by crapslinger on Aug 17, 2020 17:24:23 GMT
Can't answer or won't answer Mo, come on coward these people are breaking the law do you condemn them for breaking the law ???? I think it would be more pertinent to question their motives and aims than any minor infraction of an ancient public order statute myself but if it makes you happy, yes, hang them for wearing uniforms. Talking of ancient statues you ok with gangs of thugs destroying them , what are their motives and aims ?
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Aug 17, 2020 17:38:09 GMT
I saw the Right Wing Staples in '82. They were supporting The Specials. Were they Neville’s bro’s? No, that was The Right Wing Back kids in 92. Gary and Phil I believe..... And I’ll get me coat🙄
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Post by dutchstokie on Aug 17, 2020 18:46:34 GMT
So you’re going against the title of the thread that you created then where you said it was. Now I am confused. Are you being deliberately obtuse? I don't think this proves anything and wouldn't have made the point at all if the absurd notion that it actually proves the right isn't on the march. I prefer to use actual stats. Hate crime doubled in five years, record highs of far right wing prisoners, 66% increase in anti Chinese hate crime since covid. The right is most definitely on the march in this country and that dickhead may have felt emboldened by these FACTS. It certainly sounded like it. Brilliant sheik…... You still make me chuckle
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Post by dutchstokie on Aug 17, 2020 18:53:29 GMT
I think it would be more pertinent to question their motives and aims than any minor infraction of an ancient public order statute myself but if it makes you happy, yes, hang them for wearing uniforms. Talking of ancient statues you ok with gangs of thugs destroying them , what are their motives and aims ? Of course he is.....its the 'left wing brotherhood' flexing their muscle whilst waving their mobile phones around in the air.....before congratulating each other via twitter at 'toppling the authorities' If anyone wants an eye opener, watch some of the films on facebook under the group page of 'Open your eyes' Someone 'suggested it for me'.....fuck that I watched one where some youths in the USA poured a can of paint over some OAP and filmed it. Thats the only one I watched and just blocked it full stop. By the way they were 'brothers of Mo' Says it all really
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Post by thevoid on Aug 17, 2020 19:09:28 GMT
Some people need to get away from the mindset that any criticism of BAME people is racist, as this dilutes the impact of racism when it does occur. POC should be open to criticism and scrutiny the same as whites. Otherwise, we're treating them differently which, paradoxically, is racist 🤔
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Post by Rick Grimes on Aug 17, 2020 20:02:16 GMT
Not really, One Eye. Whenever there's a terrorist attack the stock line from you and your sort is: "Doesn't represent the wider community" (which it doesn't). Coked up dickhead on a train says some racist bollocks that everyone present (and so far, on here) condemns and the UK is turning into 1930s Berlin. In fact you've had more to say on this lone numpty than the uniformed march through Brixton the other day. I wonder why? As for speaking shit, I'd suggest your crap about feeling emboldened in this day and age, when good folk have lost their jobs over daring to criticise BLM UK's motives, to be right up there. Unfortunately, you'll always get dickheads like him on the video. The only thing I've commented on regarding this dickhead is the ridiculous notion that it somehow contradicts the idea that the right is on the rise in this country but you crack on thinking you've read things that aren't there. . So you’d have no problem with someone saying Muslim extremism is on the rise whenever there’s a terrorist incident then Sheiky?
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Post by crapslinger on Aug 17, 2020 21:04:55 GMT
The only thing I've commented on regarding this dickhead is the ridiculous notion that it somehow contradicts the idea that the right is on the rise in this country but you crack on thinking you've read things that aren't there. . So you’d have no problem with someone saying Muslim extremism is on the rise whenever there’s a terrorist incident then Sheiky? I wouldn't hold your breath waiting for a straight answer, if he does reply it will be filed in his narrow blinkered mind as whataboutery as usual.
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Post by sheikhmomo on Aug 17, 2020 21:22:42 GMT
The only thing I've commented on regarding this dickhead is the ridiculous notion that it somehow contradicts the idea that the right is on the rise in this country but you crack on thinking you've read things that aren't there. . So you’d have no problem with someone saying Muslim extremism is on the rise whenever there’s a terrorist incident then Sheiky? I'm not the one linking this incident with the rise of the right in the UK (and England in particular). There's way more compelling evidence of that fact than this moron.
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Post by crapslinger on Aug 17, 2020 22:07:05 GMT
So you’d have no problem with someone saying Muslim extremism is on the rise whenever there’s a terrorist incident then Sheiky? I'm not the one linking this incident with the rise of the right in the UK (and England in particular). There's way more compelling evidence of that fact than this moron. the coward with no answers
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Post by sheikhmomo on Aug 17, 2020 22:23:19 GMT
I'm not the one linking this incident with the rise of the right in the UK (and England in particular). There's way more compelling evidence of that fact than this moron. the coward with no answers It's not my problem you don't have the ability or intelligence to read the thread properly and see how it developed. I mean that really is too much to ask of an individual so far gone as you isn't it.
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Post by thevoid on Aug 17, 2020 22:38:06 GMT
So you’d have no problem with someone saying Muslim extremism is on the rise whenever there’s a terrorist incident then Sheiky? I'm not the one linking this incident with the rise of the right in the UK (and England in particular). There's way more compelling evidence of that fact than this moron. You could argue that there's a rise in nationalism in Scotland too- flag waving (replace the Union Jack with the Saltire), going all misty-eyed over history (replace WWII films with circle jerking over Braveheart) and those ugly scenes we saw at the border a few weeks ago (God forbid we see people waving flags and wearing nationalist face masks at Dover...). There's a newspaper in Scotland called The National whose comments section would make The Mail look like The Grauniad! Yet they seem to get a free ride from some quarters because, presumably, Scottish (and Irish) nationalism appear to be rooted more in left wing ideology- plus there's the caveat that they want to remain in the EU (fellow Remainers, see?). So, a bit like Chris Morris and his 'good and bad AIDS', Scottish nationalism is seen as 'good nationalism'- preserving Scottish culture and history and so on. Having got a mate (English) who worked up there during the Indy Ref and suffered dog's abuse from some people the day after, I'm pretty confident that nationalism and racism are not unique to the English, or 'the right' in general.
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Post by ashleyscfc on Aug 17, 2020 23:08:12 GMT
I will concede that the UK (and, on a bigger scale, the US) does seem to be a much less tolerant and more angry place these days, and I'd suggest that this forum is a microcosm of that. Social media is to blame for a lot of it. No one wants to debate rationally these days, it's just insults. *Holds nose and jumps in* (I come in good faith) However, to lay it all at the door of 'the right' (which is a fairly broad spectrum) is misleading. Yes, there are people from the far right who have probably become 'emboldened' by Brexit etc, but they will have always held those views, regardless of the outcome, and they usually feel the full weight of the law, such as the Burnley banner idiot. But we've also seen similar traits- vandalism, abuse, threatening/aggressive behaviour- from the other side of the divide and they're just as complicit. Politics has become almost sectarian now in the abuse dished out to people on 'the other side'. Politicians (from all sides) and police officers being threatened and abused barely registers as a shock these days. And as well as this, we're seeing knife crime and acid attack figures through the roof. Paramedics are being attacked when they arrive at a job (which should be classed as a hate crime in itself). This country is a mess, but all sides are culpable. As reasonable as that post is it’s just not a fair representation of the facts. Although the middle ground may of been burnt away, it’s not the far left with the money/power/influence/extremists causing issues it’s the far right. Look at Trump, Boris, Modi, Erdogan, Orban, Salvini. The rise of the AFD in Germany, Vox in Spain, FN in France, Freedom Party in Austria. Look at attacks in Christchurch Mosque (51), Pittsburgh synagogue (11), Hanau Germany (10), Charlottesville (1), Quebec Mosque, Finsbury Park Mosque (1), El Paso (23) and the Murder of Jo Cox MP. And that’s not all of them in the past 4 years. Of the 561 individuals who were adopted to a local Prevent panel in 2018/19, 254 were (45%) were referred for concerns related to right wing terrorism and 210 (37%) were referred for concerns related to Islamist terrorism. You just need to be on Facebook to notice the rise of Tommy Robinson, Britain First, National Action and their equivalents and aliases. Comparatively left wing extremism resulting in violence is far far smaller as recognised by the intelligence agencies and insurance companies alike. The numbers show the issue just isn’t comparative. Recent government report on far left extremism states there is currently “no evidence that sectarian groups on the British far left currently have the capacity or the inclination for direct organisational involvement in terror activities of any sort.” Not saying there’s not cultural issues, but regarding violence it just isn’t comparative. And just to put my cards on the table, having done the political compass I’m defined as a middle of the road left wing liberal and all that entails. I get torn between the two all the time, i.e wanting to treat everyone the same vs recognising people’s differences/unique characteristics. For what it’s worth I’m just as worried about rise in Scottish/Irish nationalism as the far right in all areas
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Post by crapslinger on Aug 18, 2020 7:05:50 GMT
the coward with no answers It's not my problem you don't have the ability or intelligence to read the thread properly and see how it developed. I mean that really is too much to ask of an individual so far gone as you isn't it. One thing has remained constant throughout this thread and many others you have ruined, your failure to answer direct questions
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Post by sheikhmomo on Aug 18, 2020 7:38:03 GMT
It's not my problem you don't have the ability or intelligence to read the thread properly and see how it developed. I mean that really is too much to ask of an individual so far gone as you isn't it. One thing has remained constant throughout this thread and many others you have ruined, your failure to answer direct questions Are you willfully ignorant or just as thick as pigshit? Read the thread gobby. You've got it wrong. AGAIN.
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Post by partickpotter on Aug 18, 2020 8:19:12 GMT
I’m coming to the conclusion that Chairman Mo and the Racist Fish make a fine couple.
They often only seem to have eyes for each other.
They never tire of talking together.
They certainly deserve each other.
May they live happily ever after.
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Post by sheikhmomo on Aug 18, 2020 8:28:59 GMT
I’m coming to the conclusion that Chairman Mo and the Racist Fish make a fine couple. They often only seem to have eyes for each other. They never tire of talking together. They certainly deserve each other. May they live happily ever after. I think after your 'racist incident proves there is less racism about' efforts from yesterday, it's clear you and crappy went the same school
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Post by partickpotter on Aug 18, 2020 8:44:51 GMT
I’m coming to the conclusion that Chairman Mo and the Racist Fish make a fine couple. They often only seem to have eyes for each other. They never tire of talking together. They certainly deserve each other. May they live happily ever after. I think after your 'racist incident proves there is less racism about' efforts from yesterday, it's clear you and crappy went the same school I think you live with your head up your arse. Let me try and explain something only you seem unable to understand. It is the public reaction to that racist incident that demonstrates this country is massively intolerant of racism. Something that I find hugely encouraging. Anyway, go back to your love in with the fish idiot. You are two peas in a pod.
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Post by sheikhmomo on Aug 18, 2020 8:48:30 GMT
I think after your 'racist incident proves there is less racism about' efforts from yesterday, it's clear you and crappy went the same school I think you live with your head up your arse. Let me try and explain something only you seem unable to understand. It is the public reaction to that racist incident that demonstrates this country is massively intolerant of racism. Something that I find hugely encouraging. Anyway, go back to your love in with the fish idiot. You are two peas in a pod. Nope. It's still a stretch so wide as to suggest an agenda being at play.
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Post by cobhamstokey on Aug 18, 2020 11:32:38 GMT
I think you live with your head up your arse. Let me try and explain something only you seem unable to understand. It is the public reaction to that racist incident that demonstrates this country is massively intolerant of racism. Something that I find hugely encouraging. Anyway, go back to your love in with the fish idiot. You are two peas in a pod. Nope. It's still a stretch so wide as to suggest an agenda being at play. So what’s your summary of the thread from start to finish as I’m a bit confused.
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Post by sheikhmomo on Aug 18, 2020 11:54:40 GMT
Nope. It's still a stretch so wide as to suggest an agenda being at play. So what’s your summary of the thread from start to finish as I’m a bit confused. I can understand your confusion. It's been hijacked once again by whatabouterists telling us we live in some sort of utopia lacing daisies into each other hair and if you're black and have a problem, well that's your problem. I believe the Police when they say Far Right extremism is on the rise including this group posing the fastest growing terrorist threat. Don't you?
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Aug 18, 2020 11:57:26 GMT
So what’s your summary of the thread from start to finish as I’m a bit confused. I can understand your confusion. It's been hijacked once again by whatabouterists telling us we live in some sort of utopia lacing daisies into each other hair and if you're black and have a problem, well that's your problem. I believe the Police when they say Far Right extremism is on the rise including this group posing the fastest growing terrorist threat. Don't you? Get yourself out mate and have some fun. You never know you might enjoy it😀
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Post by sheikhmomo on Aug 18, 2020 12:17:03 GMT
I can understand your confusion. It's been hijacked once again by whatabouterists telling us we live in some sort of utopia lacing daisies into each other hair and if you're black and have a problem, well that's your problem. I believe the Police when they say Far Right extremism is on the rise including this group posing the fastest growing terrorist threat. Don't you? Get yourself out mate and have some fun. You never know you might enjoy it😀 Right win playbook move 1....zzzzzzz
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Post by cobhamstokey on Aug 18, 2020 14:08:05 GMT
So what’s your summary of the thread from start to finish as I’m a bit confused. I can understand your confusion. It's been hijacked once again by whatabouterists telling us we live in some sort of utopia lacing daisies into each other hair and if you're black and have a problem, well that's your problem. I believe the Police when they say Far Right extremism is on the rise including this group posing the fastest growing terrorist threat. Don't you? I’d have to read there comments before I made my mind up. Where was this said and I’ll check it out?
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Post by vokeswagen on Aug 18, 2020 21:27:33 GMT
I think after your 'racist incident proves there is less racism about' efforts from yesterday, it's clear you and crappy went the same school I think you live with your head up your arse. Let me try and explain something only you seem unable to understand. It is the public reaction to that racist incident that demonstrates this country is massively intolerant of racism. Something that I find hugely encouraging. Anyway, go back to your love in with the fish idiot. You are two peas in a pod. Careful with those bold italics fella. Some numpty will be calling you ************** if you're not careful
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Post by thevoid on Aug 19, 2020 8:58:19 GMT
I think you live with your head up your arse. Let me try and explain something only you seem unable to understand. It is the public reaction to that racist incident that demonstrates this country is massively intolerant of racism. Something that I find hugely encouraging. Anyway, go back to your love in with the fish idiot. You are two peas in a pod. Careful with those bold italics fella. Some numpty will be calling you ************** if you're not careful Naah, no chance. It's just you and your other accounts who get accused 'pal' 😎
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Post by vokeswagen on Aug 19, 2020 15:25:23 GMT
Careful with those bold italics fella. Some numpty will be calling you ************** if you're not careful Naah, no chance. It's just you and your other accounts who get accused 'pal' 😎 Wrong on so many levels fella
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