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Jones out
Aug 25, 2019 21:37:47 GMT
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Post by chigstoke on Aug 25, 2019 21:37:47 GMT
The bloke deals in rhetoric. Indeed and it appears he doesn't realise how cheap the value of it is ... he's probably got one league game left. He's definitely speaking like a bloke who will talk the talk. He's done that the past 3 league games. It's no good constantly saying we will get out of this situation and the game after doing nothing about it. I thought the Leeds game did him in, and regardless of what Alan Nixon says or what Jones says, lose against Brum and the fan pressure is going to be astronomical, and I can't see him coming through from that. He is 1 game away from the sack right now, he needs to plan Saturday very carefully.
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Post by gingerninja on Aug 25, 2019 21:39:29 GMT
I think if we fail to beat B ham or even lose he will be toast especially with an international break coming up. I think Hughton might well then get the nod.
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Jones out
Aug 25, 2019 21:43:28 GMT
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Post by chigstoke on Aug 25, 2019 21:43:28 GMT
I think if we fail to beat B ham or even lose he will be toast especially with an international break coming up. I think Hughton might well then get the nod. I won't lie, I'll be genuinely scared that if he does go, we've got to wait and see who replaces him with the looming name of Pulis always in the shadows. I really hope the board aren't thick enough to even contemplate it when Hughton is available.
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Jones out
Aug 25, 2019 21:48:33 GMT
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Post by gingerninja on Aug 25, 2019 21:48:33 GMT
Nixon is a chancer, if Percy came out and said such I would likely believe it..
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Jones out
Aug 25, 2019 22:00:01 GMT
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Post by FrankButcher on Aug 25, 2019 22:00:01 GMT
I think if we fail to beat B ham or even lose he will be toast especially with an international break coming up. I think Hughton might well then get the nod. I won't lie, I'll be genuinely scared that if he does go, we've got to wait and see who replaces him with the looming name of Pulis always in the shadows. I really hope the board aren't thick enough to even contemplate it when Hughton is available. Only thing I worry about Hughton is would he stand up to the likes of Scholes behind the scenes?? I just hope he has a ruthless streak in him as he always comes across as a nice guy.
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Jones out
Aug 25, 2019 22:04:26 GMT
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on Aug 25, 2019 22:04:26 GMT
Nixon is a chancer, if Percy came out and said such I would likely believe it.. What’s Nixon said ?
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Post by chigstoke on Aug 25, 2019 22:05:10 GMT
I won't lie, I'll be genuinely scared that if he does go, we've got to wait and see who replaces him with the looming name of Pulis always in the shadows. I really hope the board aren't thick enough to even contemplate it when Hughton is available. Only thing I worry about Hughton is would he stand up to the likes of Scholes behind the scenes?? I just hope he has a ruthless streak in him as he always comes across as a nice guy. I think he would. He does come across as nice but I reckon he could be a right nasty bastard if he wanted to be.
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Jones out
Aug 25, 2019 22:08:12 GMT
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Post by FrankButcher on Aug 25, 2019 22:08:12 GMT
Indeed and it appears he doesn't realise how cheap the value of it is ... he's probably got one league game left. He's definitely speaking like a bloke who will talk the talk. He's done that the past 3 league games. It's no good constantly saying we will get out of this situation and the game after doing nothing about it. I thought the Leeds game did him in, and regardless of what Alan Nixon says or what Jones says, lose against Brum and the fan pressure is going to be astronomical, and I can't see him coming through from that. He is 1 game away from the sack right now, he needs to plan Saturday very carefully. you say he's a game away from the sack, You don't think a white wash type scoreline at Leeds Tuesday with no signs of it improving could be the final nail in the coffin?? If we get battered again tuesday I think he'd be toast kind of like how siewart was sacked at Huddersfield the night of their league Cup exit the decision was made but he's given the next league game as he had already prepared for it.
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Jones out
Aug 25, 2019 22:08:41 GMT
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Post by chigstoke on Aug 25, 2019 22:08:41 GMT
Nixon is a chancer, if Percy came out and said such I would likely believe it.. What’s Nixon said ? That Jones has got the boards full backing and going ahead with allowing him to bring in a DoF (Chappell)
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Jones out
Aug 25, 2019 22:13:02 GMT
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Post by chigstoke on Aug 25, 2019 22:13:02 GMT
He's definitely speaking like a bloke who will talk the talk. He's done that the past 3 league games. It's no good constantly saying we will get out of this situation and the game after doing nothing about it. I thought the Leeds game did him in, and regardless of what Alan Nixon says or what Jones says, lose against Brum and the fan pressure is going to be astronomical, and I can't see him coming through from that. He is 1 game away from the sack right now, he needs to plan Saturday very carefully. you say he's a game away from the sack, You don't think a white wash type scoreline at Leeds Tuesday with no signs of it improving could be the final nail in the coffin?? If we get battered again tuesday I think he'd be toast kind of like how siewart was sacked at Huddersfield the night of their league Cup exit the decision was made but he's given the next league as he had already prepared for it. Yeah I can see that. If its a whitewash Tuesday, that might make their minds up, then lose Saturday which is like a double confirmation. Don't think they give a toss about the cup right now though personally.
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Post by serpico on Aug 25, 2019 22:37:18 GMT
Have any of the players come out and backed the manager at all ? If so I’ve not heard it.
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Jones out
Aug 25, 2019 23:44:22 GMT
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Post by Gary Hackett on Aug 25, 2019 23:44:22 GMT
The bloke deals in rhetoric. Indeed and it appears he doesn't realise how cheap the value of it is ... he's probably got one league game left. I very much doubt that Paul. They've invested too much in him to cut loose now (11 players in, his mate the new head of recruitment). I'll have you another wager he's still here if he loses the next 3 games.
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Jones out
Aug 25, 2019 23:52:37 GMT
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Post by GreaterGlasgowstokie on Aug 25, 2019 23:52:37 GMT
Indeed and it appears he doesn't realise how cheap the value of it is ... he's probably got one league game left. I very much doubt that Paul. They've invested too much in him to cut loose now (11 players in, his mate the new head of recruitment). I'll have you another wager he's still here if he loses the next 3 games. There's no way he'll survive if he loses the next three. If you want a bet tell me how much. I'm down for the fulham game and I'd pay then
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Jones out
Aug 26, 2019 0:03:00 GMT
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Post by Gary Hackett on Aug 26, 2019 0:03:00 GMT
I very much doubt that Paul. They've invested too much in him to cut loose now (11 players in, his mate the new head of recruitment). I'll have you another wager he's still here if he loses the next 3 games. There's no way he'll survive if he loses the next three. If you want a bet tell me how much. I'm down for the fulham game and I'd pay then Why are you so confident? I want him gone more than anyone but I just can't see it, like I say they've geared up pretty much everything around him, it's a long term project. They have sacked 2 managers quickly I'm sure they will try and avoid that at all costs.
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Jones out
Aug 26, 2019 0:10:54 GMT
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Post by berahinosgoals on Aug 26, 2019 0:10:54 GMT
There's no way he'll survive if he loses the next three. If you want a bet tell me how much. I'm down for the fulham game and I'd pay then Why are you so confident? I want him gone more than anyone but I just can't see it, like I say they've geared up pretty much everything around him, it's a long term project. They have sacked 2 managers quickly I'm sure they will try and avoid that at all costs. They won't be sacking him because of a noisy few on the oatcake, that's for sure
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Post by Sfance on Aug 26, 2019 1:56:10 GMT
If the players won't play for him, then it doesn't matter how much the Board don't want another sacking. Putting two and two together, I'd say that the players have had it with him and want him gone.
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Post by foster on Aug 26, 2019 7:40:43 GMT
Can't stand the bloke and that weird tugging at his lips and putting his fingers in his mouth all the time shit.
We should be in the top 6 (last season included). The stats and facts speak for themselves and we are just not good enough.
we don't have a proper first 11. We don't have a working formation, and we don't create enough chances.
Hoping he can turn it around quickly but if not then it's another miserable season ahead.
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Post by adamsson on Aug 26, 2019 8:34:11 GMT
Jones’ problem is we don’t have a preferred style of play, say what you want about pulis but he had a very definite game plan, it’s simple and everyone knows what it is, we don’t currently have a definitive game plan. We don’t play for set pieces We don’t have wingers who get down the line We don’t have a creative midfielder We don’t have a target man We’re not a passing side We’re not a route one side We’re not a counter attacking side We need an identity and a definitive system/style of play, currently we’re just a bunch of players, no cohesion, no shape, no organisation, no game plan, nothing. I think you have summed up the problem with Jones.
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Post by potterpaul on Aug 26, 2019 8:45:04 GMT
Has any manager survived after issuing such a statement? Can't think of many or any so what's the average number of days/weeks between issuing date and end date?
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Post by nott1 on Aug 26, 2019 9:00:16 GMT
Decision on Jones to be made during the International break (Daily Express).
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Jones out
Aug 26, 2019 9:09:10 GMT
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Post by neddy on Aug 26, 2019 9:09:10 GMT
Decision on Jones to be made during the International break (Daily Express). Informed or guesswork....the latter I think?
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Jones out
Aug 26, 2019 9:10:57 GMT
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Post by chigstoke on Aug 26, 2019 9:10:57 GMT
Has any manager survived after issuing such a statement? Can't think of many or any so what's the average number of days/weeks between issuing date and end date? Usually its a few weeks, tops. Hughes with his who else is going to do it comment was only a couple of weeks wasn't it?
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Post by potterpaul on Aug 26, 2019 9:13:38 GMT
Has any manager survived after issuing such a statement? Can't think of many or any so what's the average number of days/weeks between issuing date and end date? Usually its a few weeks, tops. Hughes with his who else is going to do it comment was only a couple of weeks wasn't it? Yeah, it's a football managers equivalent to 2 weeks notice
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Post by Deleted on Aug 26, 2019 9:18:22 GMT
I'm one of Jones' fiercest defenders on here but i'd be surprised if the club aren't already talking to potential new managers and even i'll concede he'll find it very difficult to last past another league defeat at Birmingham, especially if it is another 2-3 goal beating. It's not something i'd do at this stage but the family will be very keen to divert as much angst away from themselves as possible.
I'm hoping with everything i've got that he gets the wins he and the club needs over the next two games because I think we're in deep shit if we have to go and get another manager.
Some of the names mentioned on here are pie in the sky. I think at this stage even Hughton would think twice about it - given the supposed toxicity in the club coupled with the ever decreasing financial power of the club, and of course, the current state of affairs. The next man in has three managers worth of problems to deal with, a very angry supporter base to deal with and potentially a dressing room on it's arse. Word spreads in and around football quickly and I think the queue for the job will be half of what it was last summer.
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Post by potterpaul on Aug 26, 2019 9:18:32 GMT
Decision on Jones to be made during the International break (Daily Express). Hello, have the Coates taken over the monitoring room?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 26, 2019 9:27:54 GMT
The bloke deals in rhetoric. Indeed and it appears he doesn't realise how cheap the value of it is ... he's probably got one league game left. You're right about the first part. His tongue talks, but he has no idea about what it's saying. But the notion that he would be sacked after six games with an entirely new group of players simply isn't going to happen. Unless the players actually came out and you could see they were playing against the manager. Or if they lost 8-0. I would think Jones no longer has the safest job in pro football, but he's still safe.
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Post by FullerMagic on Aug 26, 2019 9:44:58 GMT
www.stokesentinel.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/stoke-city-leeds-jones-job-3251015Defeat in tomorrow's League Cup second round tie at Leeds will add to the pressure, but is unlikely to leave the owners making any decisions. They are desperate to reach the two-week international break after Saturday's trip to Birmingham so they can take a step back, take stock and assess things with a cool head. They remain keen to keep Jones after investing so much time and resource into the Welshman, but are equally concerned about a league position, even after only five games, that no-one could have reasonably anticipated.
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Post by sheikhmomo on Aug 26, 2019 9:50:11 GMT
www.stokesentinel.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/stoke-city-leeds-jones-job-3251015Defeat in tomorrow's League Cup second round tie at Leeds will add to the pressure, but is unlikely to leave the owners making any decisions. They are desperate to reach the two-week international break after Saturday's trip to Birmingham so they can take a step back, take stock and assess things with a cool head. They remain keen to keep Jones after investing so much time and resource into the Welshman, but are equally concerned about a league position, even after only five games, that no-one could have reasonably anticipated. Oh dear. Bye Nath. Thanks for......errr….. being a bit odd.
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Post by GreaterGlasgowstokie on Aug 26, 2019 9:50:23 GMT
No one cares about the league cup. We saw after the wigan game it means fuck all. I'd give him the Birmingham game to get a win. If we don't we need to get a manager in who can manage a crisis and grind out results.
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Post by FullerMagic on Aug 26, 2019 9:54:45 GMT
www.stokesentinel.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/stoke-city-leeds-jones-job-3251015Defeat in tomorrow's League Cup second round tie at Leeds will add to the pressure, but is unlikely to leave the owners making any decisions. They are desperate to reach the two-week international break after Saturday's trip to Birmingham so they can take a step back, take stock and assess things with a cool head. They remain keen to keep Jones after investing so much time and resource into the Welshman, but are equally concerned about a league position, even after only five games, that no-one could have reasonably anticipated. Oh dear. Bye Nath. Thanks for......errr….. being a bit odd. Sounds like the Birmingham performance would have to be VERY encouraging to save him?
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