|
Post by trickydicky73 on Jul 12, 2019 12:53:38 GMT
I don't know what to make of all this, but I find it interesting that some of the anti conspiracy types are quite willing to believe in this one.
I can virtually guarantee that if it was black people or Muslim people saying that they were being discriminated against in a political party, they would be believed almost without reservation. Are they all lying?
I have no doubt Watson is using this controversy to further his own agenda,but is there absolutely nothing to these claims?
|
|
|
Post by followyoudown on Jul 12, 2019 13:03:21 GMT
Now I'm sure that people will say, 'Asa Winstanley' etc (I'm looking at you fyd ) and I absolutely get that but much of this is fact and pure observation. These people may be victims and if so its disgusting but why would the national broadcaster omit such key information from its viewers? What is their end goal? Asa Winstanley chuffung hell Momo thats like siting Tommy Robinson as a reliable source on Islam. I've read it and it's just like the train story and wreath again argue over some minor point being wrong without engaging with the main point, Labour even put a bogus complaint in over the wreath story then quietly dropped it once it was not in the news. I mean the general snidey point he makes is they are jewish they can't be trusted imagine saying that about a muslim or other minority and what your response would be.....
|
|
|
Post by sheikhmomo on Jul 12, 2019 14:48:49 GMT
Now I'm sure that people will say, 'Asa Winstanley' etc (I'm looking at you fyd ) and I absolutely get that but much of this is fact and pure observation. These people may be victims and if so its disgusting but why would the national broadcaster omit such key information from its viewers? What is their end goal? Asa Winstanley chuffung hell Momo thats like siting Tommy Robinson as a reliable source on Islam. I've read it and it's just like the train story and wreath again argue over some minor point being wrong without engaging with the main point, Labour even put a bogus complaint in over the wreath story then quietly dropped it once it was not in the news. I mean the general snidey point he makes is they are jewish they can't be trusted imagine saying that about a muslim or other minority and what your response would be..... Do you think on balance this was an even handed programme? There's plenty of Corbyn haters all over twitter who have seen it for what it was.
|
|
|
Post by Deleted on Jul 12, 2019 15:29:30 GMT
I don't know what to make of all this, but I find it interesting that some of the anti conspiracy types are quite willing to believe in this one. I can virtually guarantee that if it was black people or Muslim people saying that they were being discriminated against in a political party, they would be believed almost without reservation. Are they all lying? I have no doubt Watson is using this controversy to further his own agenda,but is there absolutely nothing to these claims? You know the saddest thing about this whole saga, there are prominent Jews who back Corbyn and the Labour Party who get dogs abuse for their stance. There are some that have no time for his politics but still see through some of the nonsense flying about. Their Jewishness is erased from the argument, they are called Kapo's, self hating Jews, the wrong type of Jew. It's disgusting. Where were they in the documentary adding balance to the argument? Where are they on Newsnight, on Politics Today or BBC 5 Live? They don't get asked, simple. I know a couple of people from Jewish Voice for Labour and members of the Salford CLP who have been verbally and physically threatened by fellow Jewish people for standing up and arguing for what they believe to be right, that Jewishness and Zionism/Israel should never be confused or conflated. They are pariahs as far as some are concerned. A whole one hour program with people talking about how they received abuse with literally no credible evidence, no transcripts, no clips of antisemitism, no tweets from bona fide members of Labour. Just hearsay, and comments with no substance that would be kicked out of any court/tribunal in the land. If they have it, get it out in the open, lets deal with the people in question and make sure it never happens again. Of course antisemitism exists amongst a minute but vocal percentage of the party (0.06% to be precise), that's a reflection of the shitty society we live in today unfortunately but still doesn't make it right. But the use of antisemitism to undermine Corbyn from the usual suspects, Margaret Hodge, Louise Ellman, Joan Ryan, Wes Streeting, Jess Phillips, Tom Watson etc. is clear and obvious. And it undermines the true fight against racism and discrimination. I'll say again, why are British politicians spending so much time involved with groups such as the Labour Friends of Israel, flying to America for conferences, holding the Israeli flag up with pride and purposely conflating Zionism and antisemitism? Why aren't they in their constituencies dealing with the Brexit shit show, people reliant on foodbanks, the homeless etc. It stinks as far as I'm concerned. Corbyn has many many weaknesses, his leaning towards Remain will lose him the next election in my opinion and that will be him confined to the dustbin of history. But to say he and his shadow cabinet and the party as a whole are institutionally racist is ridiculous......
|
|
|
Post by hoffgreen on Jul 12, 2019 15:49:32 GMT
What's stopping all Jews and Muslims leaving the UK and returning to their own respective promised lands?
The uk would be a hell of a lot more peacefull if that happened....
Open borders for the middle east 👍
|
|
|
Post by Deleted on Jul 12, 2019 16:27:24 GMT
What's stopping all Jews and Muslims leaving the UK and returning to their own respective promised lands? The uk would be a hell of a lot more peacefull if that happened.... Open borders for the middle east 👍 What about those British Jews that have zero affiliation to Israel or its government? And the British Muslims born and bred here? I would imagine the fact that they belong in Britain as much as you and I and the fact that its their home is stopping them returning to their so-called promised land......
|
|
|
Post by followyoudown on Jul 12, 2019 16:33:08 GMT
Asa Winstanley chuffung hell Momo thats like siting Tommy Robinson as a reliable source on Islam. I've read it and it's just like the train story and wreath again argue over some minor point being wrong without engaging with the main point, Labour even put a bogus complaint in over the wreath story then quietly dropped it once it was not in the news. I mean the general snidey point he makes is they are jewish they can't be trusted imagine saying that about a muslim or other minority and what your response would be..... Do you think on balance this was an even handed programme? There's plenty of Corbyn haters all over twitter who have seen it for what it was. Labour refused to put anyone on the program for balance why is that you think, could it be there is even more to come this stuff is the tip of the iceberg. Why have the labour leadership denied interfering in these decisions yet here they are interfering, why did the Guardian have to pull a letter supporting Corbyn from 100 "jewish" people ? Why do you believe hope not hate on tory islamphobia but not on labour anti semitism, why is that anyone speaking about AS in the labour party is attacked, accused of having an ulterior motive or just acting in bad faith ? How often do you hear Syeda Warsi or the MCB attacked in a similar way by Tories ?
|
|
|
Post by Deleted on Jul 12, 2019 16:39:43 GMT
Do you think on balance this was an even handed programme? There's plenty of Corbyn haters all over twitter who have seen it for what it was. Labour refused to put anyone on the program for balance why is that you think, could it be there is even more to come this stuff is the tip of the iceberg. Why have the labour leadership denied interfering in these decisions yet here they are interfering, why did the Guardian have to pull a letter supporting Corbyn from 100 "jewish" people ?
Why do you believe hope not hate on tory islamphobia but not on labour anti semitism, why is that anyone speaking about AS in the labour party is attacked, accused of having an ulterior motive or just acting in bad faith ? How often do you hear Syeda Warsi or the MCB attacked in a similar way by Tories ? Because the Board of Deputies that represent 25% of the Jewish community but claim to speak for them all intervened of course. I particularly like your use of "Jewish", subscribing to the theory that those Jewish folk who support Corbyn as the "wrong type". Nice touch.....
|
|
|
Post by followyoudown on Jul 12, 2019 16:39:45 GMT
I don't know what to make of all this, but I find it interesting that some of the anti conspiracy types are quite willing to believe in this one. I can virtually guarantee that if it was black people or Muslim people saying that they were being discriminated against in a political party, they would be believed almost without reservation. Are they all lying? I have no doubt Watson is using this controversy to further his own agenda,but is there absolutely nothing to these claims? You know the saddest thing about this whole saga, there are prominent Jews who back Corbyn and the Labour Party who get dogs abuse for their stance. There are some that have no time for his politics but still see through some of the nonsense flying about. Their Jewishness is erased from the argument, they are called Kapo's, self hating Jews, the wrong type of Jew. It's disgusting. Where were they in the documentary adding balance to the argument? Where are they on Newsnight, on Politics Today or BBC 5 Live? They don't get asked, simple. I know a couple of people from Jewish Voice for Labour and members of the Salford CLP who have been verbally and physically threatened by fellow Jewish people for standing up and arguing for what they believe to be right, that Jewishness and Zionism/Israel should never be confused or conflated. They are pariahs as far as some are concerned. A whole one hour program with people talking about how they received abuse with literally no credible evidence, no transcripts, no clips of antisemitism, no tweets from bona fide members of Labour. Just hearsay, and comments with no substance that would be kicked out of any court/tribunal in the land. If they have it, get it out in the open, lets deal with the people in question and make sure it never happens again. Of course antisemitism exists amongst a minute but vocal percentage of the party (0.06% to be precise), that's a reflection of the shitty society we live in today unfortunately but still doesn't make it right. But the use of antisemitism to undermine Corbyn from the usual suspects, Margaret Hodge, Louise Ellman, Joan Ryan, Wes Streeting, Jess Phillips, Tom Watson etc. is clear and obvious. And it undermines the true fight against racism and discrimination. I'll say again, why are British politicians spending so much time involved with groups such as the Labour Friends of Israel, flying to America for conferences, holding the Israeli flag up with pride and purposely conflating Zionism and antisemitism? Why aren't they in their constituencies dealing with the Brexit shit show, people reliant on foodbanks, the homeless etc. It stinks as far as I'm concerned. Corbyn has many many weaknesses, his leaning towards Remain will lose him the next election in my opinion and that will be him confined to the dustbin of history. But to say he and his shadow cabinet and the party as a whole are institutionally racist is ridiculous...... I think the EHRC will say differently
|
|
|
Post by Deleted on Jul 12, 2019 16:43:42 GMT
You know the saddest thing about this whole saga, there are prominent Jews who back Corbyn and the Labour Party who get dogs abuse for their stance. There are some that have no time for his politics but still see through some of the nonsense flying about. Their Jewishness is erased from the argument, they are called Kapo's, self hating Jews, the wrong type of Jew. It's disgusting. Where were they in the documentary adding balance to the argument? Where are they on Newsnight, on Politics Today or BBC 5 Live? They don't get asked, simple. I know a couple of people from Jewish Voice for Labour and members of the Salford CLP who have been verbally and physically threatened by fellow Jewish people for standing up and arguing for what they believe to be right, that Jewishness and Zionism/Israel should never be confused or conflated. They are pariahs as far as some are concerned. A whole one hour program with people talking about how they received abuse with literally no credible evidence, no transcripts, no clips of antisemitism, no tweets from bona fide members of Labour. Just hearsay, and comments with no substance that would be kicked out of any court/tribunal in the land. If they have it, get it out in the open, lets deal with the people in question and make sure it never happens again. Of course antisemitism exists amongst a minute but vocal percentage of the party (0.06% to be precise), that's a reflection of the shitty society we live in today unfortunately but still doesn't make it right. But the use of antisemitism to undermine Corbyn from the usual suspects, Margaret Hodge, Louise Ellman, Joan Ryan, Wes Streeting, Jess Phillips, Tom Watson etc. is clear and obvious. And it undermines the true fight against racism and discrimination. I'll say again, why are British politicians spending so much time involved with groups such as the Labour Friends of Israel, flying to America for conferences, holding the Israeli flag up with pride and purposely conflating Zionism and antisemitism? Why aren't they in their constituencies dealing with the Brexit shit show, people reliant on foodbanks, the homeless etc. It stinks as far as I'm concerned. Corbyn has many many weaknesses, his leaning towards Remain will lose him the next election in my opinion and that will be him confined to the dustbin of history. But to say he and his shadow cabinet and the party as a whole are institutionally racist is ridiculous...... I think the EHRC will say differently I guess we'll see.....
|
|
|
Post by thevoid on Jul 12, 2019 18:24:28 GMT
You know the saddest thing about this whole saga, there are prominent Jews who back Corbyn and the Labour Party who get dogs abuse for their stance. There are some that have no time for his politics but still see through some of the nonsense flying about. Their Jewishness is erased from the argument, they are called Kapo's, self hating Jews, the wrong type of Jew. It's disgusting. Where were they in the documentary adding balance to the argument? Where are they on Newsnight, on Politics Today or BBC 5 Live? They don't get asked, simple. I know a couple of people from Jewish Voice for Labour and members of the Salford CLP who have been verbally and physically threatened by fellow Jewish people for standing up and arguing for what they believe to be right, that Jewishness and Zionism/Israel should never be confused or conflated. They are pariahs as far as some are concerned. A whole one hour program with people talking about how they received abuse with literally no credible evidence, no transcripts, no clips of antisemitism, no tweets from bona fide members of Labour. Just hearsay, and comments with no substance that would be kicked out of any court/tribunal in the land. If they have it, get it out in the open, lets deal with the people in question and make sure it never happens again. Of course antisemitism exists amongst a minute but vocal percentage of the party (0.06% to be precise), that's a reflection of the shitty society we live in today unfortunately but still doesn't make it right. But the use of antisemitism to undermine Corbyn from the usual suspects, Margaret Hodge, Louise Ellman, Joan Ryan, Wes Streeting, Jess Phillips, Tom Watson etc. is clear and obvious. And it undermines the true fight against racism and discrimination. I'll say again, why are British politicians spending so much time involved with groups such as the Labour Friends of Israel, flying to America for conferences, holding the Israeli flag up with pride and purposely conflating Zionism and antisemitism? Why aren't they in their constituencies dealing with the Brexit shit show, people reliant on foodbanks, the homeless etc. It stinks as far as I'm concerned. Corbyn has many many weaknesses, his leaning towards Remain will lose him the next election in my opinion and that will be him confined to the dustbin of history. But to say he and his shadow cabinet and the party as a whole are institutionally racist is ridiculous...... I think the EHRC will say differently They'll be frothing at the mouth about the EHRC being a Zionist cabal if they don't like the result, FYD. Threats to EHRC staff have already been made by certain elements: If there's nothing to worry about, let them do their job 😊
|
|
|
Post by felonious on Jul 12, 2019 19:18:41 GMT
What does he say about the 8 Labour party employees and Labour party members who were the majority voice of the programme last night and are now being systematically discredited by the Corbyn machine. If ever there was a need for Union representation against an employer..... He says this about one of them. Another one appears to have lied about emails that were mentioned (and doctored), then there was the one talking about an "Israeli lobby" trope, whilst being part of BICOM which is literally an Israeli think tank lobbying in the UK (not sure how the so-called trope is antisemitic but hey ho?), then there was the former NEC general secretary who sat on cases that have had to be dealt with by Jenny Formby's team which have added to the backlog. Not forgetting MP Louise Ellman, who went on the BBC to accuse Corbyn of going to a meeting with a holocaust denier (a Jewish survivor of the holocaust), forgetting that she was actually at the same meeting for the whole duration (Corbyn left after an hour). I feel for anyone Labour activist/member who have genuinely suffered this disgusting bigotry, but the Panorama documentary appears to be an exercise in barrel scraping. Show the actual credible, tangible evidence so the Labour Party can get rid of the 0.06% of anti-Jewish racists infiltrating the party, show that it will not be tolerated and move on to rid the country of this horrific Tory shitshow, any decent person would want that to happen..... The EHRC have received evidence from 30 whistleblowers discredited former members with a grudge. They have asked for the views of 100 Labour figures. I'm not sure where you get your 0.06% figure from this seems to be another attempt by the Corbyn circle to belittle the gravity of the many complaints they are receiving. Surely it's more than a thousand in the last 12 months alone and God knows how many since Red Ken put it out there that the German Jews were in cahoots with the Nazis. Do you not have any sympathy for the staffers on the programme. Were they faking breakdowns and thoughts of suicide?
|
|
|
Post by followyoudown on Jul 12, 2019 19:21:34 GMT
I think the EHRC will say differently They'll be frothing at the mouth about the EHRC being a Zionist cabal if they don't like the result, FYD. Threats to EHRC staff have already been made by certain elements: If there's nothing to worry about, let them do their job 😊 Next thing you know they will be making up an organisation of "jewish" people to defend him and making up letters in newspapers ohhhhh..... Anyway what does the EHRC know the congo great lakes organistion or whatever it was said labour wasnt antisemitic
|
|
|
Post by Deleted on Jul 12, 2019 19:48:12 GMT
Diane's getting involved now. Labour civil war deepens with Diane Abbott retweeting call for Tom Watson to go amid anti-Semitism row link
|
|
|
Post by thevoid on Jul 12, 2019 20:38:01 GMT
Diane's getting involved now. Labour civil war deepens with Diane Abbott retweeting call for Tom Watson to go amid anti-Semitism row linkDiane Abbott has since Tweeted that she doesn't like Anti Semitism, and Uncle Semitism isn't much better either.
|
|
|
Post by Deleted on Jul 12, 2019 20:55:35 GMT
He says this about one of them. Another one appears to have lied about emails that were mentioned (and doctored), then there was the one talking about an "Israeli lobby" trope, whilst being part of BICOM which is literally an Israeli think tank lobbying in the UK (not sure how the so-called trope is antisemitic but hey ho?), then there was the former NEC general secretary who sat on cases that have had to be dealt with by Jenny Formby's team which have added to the backlog. Not forgetting MP Louise Ellman, who went on the BBC to accuse Corbyn of going to a meeting with a holocaust denier (a Jewish survivor of the holocaust), forgetting that she was actually at the same meeting for the whole duration (Corbyn left after an hour). I feel for anyone Labour activist/member who have genuinely suffered this disgusting bigotry, but the Panorama documentary appears to be an exercise in barrel scraping. Show the actual credible, tangible evidence so the Labour Party can get rid of the 0.06% of anti-Jewish racists infiltrating the party, show that it will not be tolerated and move on to rid the country of this horrific Tory shitshow, any decent person would want that to happen..... The EHRC have received evidence from 30 whistleblowers discredited former members with a grudge. They have asked for the views of 100 Labour figures. I'm not sure where you get your 0.06% figure from this seems to be another attempt by the Corbyn circle to belittle the gravity of the many complaints they are receiving. Surely it's more than a thousand in the last 12 months alone and God knows how many since Red Ken put it out there that the German Jews were in cahoots with the Nazis. Do you not have any sympathy for the staffers on the programme. Were they faking breakdowns and thoughts of suicide?I have sympathy with anyone who has suffered bullying, racism or any form of discrimination in the work place. It appears however that Ben Westerman has been caught lying about him suffering antisemitic abuse at the hands of the Liverpool CLP, they are about to release the recordings so we shall see I guess? Alex Richardson was an employee of Labour Friends of Israel chair Joan Ryan and caught on camera fabricating instances of antisemitism towards him and encouraging others to do the same. It's there for all to see. According to Jackie Walker she has proof that she was never interviewed or even met Loise Withers Green, hopefully if that's the case she will produce it. Ella Rose was the former Israeli embassy employee who moved to become the Director of Jewish Voice for Labour in 2016 (you need to be neither Jewish nor a supporter of Labour to join but you do need to be a Zionist). Both she and Adam Langblen are on camera talking about "bringing down Corbyn" in 2016, the JLV was reinstated for this specific reason. All on camera. So with all these things in mind, what I would want to see from these individuals is actual evidence of antisemitism and not anecdotes of unrecorded incidents that contain none. But yes, if there has been documented, proven cases of antisemitism or bullying towards these people then I absolutely stand with them and the perpetrators should be dealt with accordingly....
|
|
|
Post by thevoid on Jul 12, 2019 20:58:39 GMT
They'll be frothing at the mouth about the EHRC being a Zionist cabal if they don't like the result, FYD. Threats to EHRC staff have already been made by certain elements: If there's nothing to worry about, let them do their job 😊 Next thing you know they will be making up an organisation of "jewish" people to defend him and making up letters in newspapers ohhhhh..... Anyway what does the EHRC know the congo great lakes organistion or whatever it was said labour wasnt antisemitic .
|
|
|
Post by vokeswagen on Jul 12, 2019 21:07:31 GMT
He says this about one of them. Another one appears to have lied about emails that were mentioned (and doctored), then there was the one talking about an "Israeli lobby" trope, whilst being part of BICOM which is literally an Israeli think tank lobbying in the UK (not sure how the so-called trope is antisemitic but hey ho?), then there was the former NEC general secretary who sat on cases that have had to be dealt with by Jenny Formby's team which have added to the backlog. Not forgetting MP Louise Ellman, who went on the BBC to accuse Corbyn of going to a meeting with a holocaust denier (a Jewish survivor of the holocaust), forgetting that she was actually at the same meeting for the whole duration (Corbyn left after an hour). I feel for anyone Labour activist/member who have genuinely suffered this disgusting bigotry, but the Panorama documentary appears to be an exercise in barrel scraping. Show the actual credible, tangible evidence so the Labour Party can get rid of the 0.06% of anti-Jewish racists infiltrating the party, show that it will not be tolerated and move on to rid the country of this horrific Tory shitshow, any decent person would want that to happen..... The EHRC have received evidence from 30 whistleblowers discredited former members with a grudge. They have asked for the views of 100 Labour figures. I'm not sure where you get your 0.06% figure from this seems to be another attempt by the Corbyn circle to belittle the gravity of the many complaints they are receiving. Surely it's more than a thousand in the last 12 months alone and God knows how many since Red Ken put it out there that the German Jews were in cahoots with the Nazis. Do you not have any sympathy for the staffers on the programme. Were they faking breakdowns and thoughts of suicide? So you liked the OP which, in the same breath as criticising people for being anti-Semitic, used the m-word, which is clearly defined as offensive to people with learning disabilities, and which organisations like the Downs Syndrome Association have asked people to stop using. So people with learning disabilities are fair game are they mate?
|
|
|
Post by claytonscrubs on Jul 12, 2019 21:10:14 GMT
Jezzawatch.
It’s like watching a Monty Python sketch... ”Nobody expects the Spanish Inquisition” 😀
|
|
|
Post by Boothen on Jul 12, 2019 21:48:41 GMT
|
|
|
Post by bathstoke on Jul 13, 2019 6:45:36 GMT
Goodbye old friend. I'll just leave this here for old times sake. A leaked memo from Labour about how to divert attention from a TV documentary showing their institutional anti-semitism. Loving the separate "outriders" instructions. Outriders?? Is that like Squealer Jones, Novaria Mediocre, Paul Mason and Mongmentum? “Mongmentum!?!” WTF R U, Alf Garnet. Have you not heard of the Disability Discrimination Act. In the same post you are banging on about anti Semitism, youre undermining people with a genetic disorder. What is it you want, a New Order... Who you going to have a go at next; Gays, artists, Roma, Blacks... Give your £@#&!n head a wobble
|
|
|
Post by crapslinger on Jul 13, 2019 8:07:18 GMT
Goodbye old friend. I'll just leave this here for old times sake. A leaked memo from Labour about how to divert attention from a TV documentary showing their institutional anti-semitism. Loving the separate "outriders" instructions. Outriders?? Is that like Squealer Jones, Novaria Mediocre, Paul Mason and Mongmentum? “Mongmentum!?!” WTF R U, Alf Garnet. Have you not heard of the Disability Discrimination Act. In the same post you are banging on about anti Semitism, youre undermining people with a genetic disorder. What is it you want, a New Order... Who you going to have a go at next; Gays, artists, Roma, Blacks... Give your £@#&!n head a wobble If you are serious about disability rights you would have known that the DDA was repealed and replaced in 2010 with the Equality Act, faux outrage Bath ! deflection the chosen method of the left.
|
|
|
Post by crapslinger on Jul 13, 2019 8:15:48 GMT
Jezzawatch. It’s like watching a Monty Python sketch... ”Nobody expects the Spanish Inquisition” 🙂 Is she his support worker. "Nobody expects the Spanish Inquisition!"
|
|
|
Post by bathstoke on Jul 13, 2019 8:26:33 GMT
“Mongmentum!?!” WTF R U, Alf Garnet. Have you not heard of the Disability Discrimination Act. In the same post you are banging on about anti Semitism, youre undermining people with a genetic disorder. What is it you want, a New Order... Who you going to have a go at next; Gays, artists, Roma, Blacks... Give your £@#&!n head a wobble If you are serious about disability rights you would have known that the DDA was repealed and replaced in 2010 with the Equality Act, faux outrage Bath ! deflection the chosen method of the left. Talking of contemporary thinking Carps, I did see just the other day that there has been a study on radicalisation & that most come from an engineering background. Can’t say I’m surprised. In that case, should we ban Meccano💣
|
|
|
Post by vokeswagen on Jul 13, 2019 9:23:26 GMT
“Mongmentum!?!” WTF R U, Alf Garnet. Have you not heard of the Disability Discrimination Act. In the same post you are banging on about anti Semitism, youre undermining people with a genetic disorder. What is it you want, a New Order... Who you going to have a go at next; Gays, artists, Roma, Blacks... Give your £@#&!n head a wobble If you are serious about disability rights you would have known that the DDA was repealed and replaced in 2010 with the Equality Act, faux outrage Bath ! deflection the chosen method of the left. There is no finer example of "faux outrage" on this board than you constantly purporting to be upset about anti-Semitism carps. It's also telling that you've tried to deflect from the use of the m-word. Which on your terms makes you an apologist for disablism.
|
|
|
Post by crapslinger on Jul 13, 2019 9:24:33 GMT
If you are serious about disability rights you would have known that the DDA was repealed and replaced in 2010 with the Equality Act, faux outrage Bath ! deflection the chosen method of the left. Talking of contemporary thinking Carps, I did see just the other day that there has been a study on radicalisation & that most come from an engineering background. Can’t say I’m surprised. In that case, should we ban Meccano💣 I am not into social engineering, does it give any info. on the individuals who have been radicalised, simple stuff like their names. ?
|
|
|
Post by bathstoke on Jul 13, 2019 10:06:38 GMT
Talking of contemporary thinking Carps, I did see just the other day that there has been a study on radicalisation & that most come from an engineering background. Can’t say I’m surprised. In that case, should we ban Meccano💣 I am not into social engineering, does it give any info. on the individuals who have been radicalised, simple stuff like their names. ? What’s up, can’t you find it on a search engine...
|
|
|
Post by crapslinger on Jul 13, 2019 11:10:19 GMT
I am not into social engineering, does it give any info. on the individuals who have been radicalised, simple stuff like their names. ? What’s up, can’t you find it on a search engine... You are the one who stated it what's up have you made it up ?
|
|
|
Post by mattyd on Jul 13, 2019 14:39:53 GMT
Jezzawatch. It’s like watching a Monty Python sketch... ”Nobody expects the Spanish Inquisition” 😀 His bloody garden is a right mess...Imagine what a shithole No 10 will be like if he gets there.
|
|
|
Post by followyoudown on Jul 13, 2019 14:47:28 GMT
Labour refused to put anyone on the program for balance why is that you think, could it be there is even more to come this stuff is the tip of the iceberg. Why have the labour leadership denied interfering in these decisions yet here they are interfering, why did the Guardian have to pull a letter supporting Corbyn from 100 "jewish" people ?
Why do you believe hope not hate on tory islamphobia but not on labour anti semitism, why is that anyone speaking about AS in the labour party is attacked, accused of having an ulterior motive or just acting in bad faith ? How often do you hear Syeda Warsi or the MCB attacked in a similar way by Tories ? Because the Board of Deputies that represent 25% of the Jewish community but claim to speak for them all intervened of course. I particularly like your use of "Jewish", subscribing to the theory that those Jewish folk who support Corbyn as the "wrong type". Nice touch..... I missed this yesterday nice unintentional (?) jews control the media trope from you, just ignore the fact that the points raised by BOD were correct otherwise why would the guardian drop it. Hope not hate said they had no record of the person claiming to sign on their behalf, I mean why would you need to fake this stuff unless.... still as long as he retains the support of the congo great lakes society hey.... And no my use of "jewish" is because there are numerous examples of corbyn supporting racists claiming a vague connection to jewish ancestory to try and hide their anti semitism.
|
|