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Post by Northy on Nov 21, 2023 13:50:06 GMT
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Post by mtrstudent on Nov 22, 2023 1:16:22 GMT
That's around where the lithium ones without cobalt and nickel are at. If it's commercial ready and cheap then very exciting.
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Post by mrcoke on Nov 28, 2023 9:33:50 GMT
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Post by mrcoke on Dec 1, 2023 15:48:41 GMT
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Post by mrcoke on Dec 1, 2023 16:18:48 GMT
Having posted the above I thought how are we doing today on power generation?
What a mountain we still have to climb!!!
No solar power generation today - not surprising!
Very little wind power, so there must be little wind.
10% of what we are consuming is imported , mostly from France. Little from Norway because no wind?
Small amount of nuclear, biomass, and tiny bit from coal.
Vast majority from gas.
We are still just starting on this long journey to renewable energy.
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Post by oggyoggy on Dec 1, 2023 16:52:12 GMT
Having posted the above I thought how are we doing today on power generation? What a mountain we still have to climb!!! No solar power generation today - not surprising! Very little wind power, so there must be little wind. 10% of what we are consuming is imported , mostly from France. Little from Norway because no wind? Small amount of nuclear, biomass, and tiny bit from coal. Vast majority from gas. We are still just starting on this long journey to renewable energy. Perhaps we should begin serious investment in renewables? With our skills in innovation, perhaps we could lead the world in it. Be to renewables what Saudi is for oil and gas. But this government has no vision or long term plan, other than for power.
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Post by iancransonsknees on Dec 1, 2023 18:05:54 GMT
Having posted the above I thought how are we doing today on power generation? What a mountain we still have to climb!!! No solar power generation today - not surprising! Very little wind power, so there must be little wind. 10% of what we are consuming is imported , mostly from France. Little from Norway because no wind? Small amount of nuclear, biomass, and tiny bit from coal. Vast majority from gas. We are still just starting on this long journey to renewable energy. Perhaps we should begin serious investment in renewables? With our skills in innovation, perhaps we could lead the world in it. Be to renewables what Saudi is for oil and gas. But this government has no vision or long term plan, other than for power. We were in relation to wind a threw that away. We could be in relation to tidal energy but we'll balls that up to no doubt.
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Post by elystokie on Dec 1, 2023 18:46:41 GMT
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Post by lawrieleslie on Dec 1, 2023 20:27:09 GMT
Perhaps we should begin serious investment in renewables? With our skills in innovation, perhaps we could lead the world in it. Be to renewables what Saudi is for oil and gas. But this government has no vision or long term plan, other than for power. We were in relation to wind a threw that away. We could be in relation to tidal energy but we'll balls that up to no doubt. Tidal energy is what we should have been pursuing years ago imo. We have some of the biggest tidal ranges globally and it is an absolute constant regardless of anything. Imagine a fucking great turbine in the Thames or Severn Estuaries. Even down here in Devon we have Tamar, Plym, Yealm, Erm , Avon & Dart rivers with large estuaries that could provide cheap energy forever.
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Post by wannabee on Dec 1, 2023 22:26:18 GMT
Sunak claims UK World Word Leadership in Renewables Renewable Energy Percentage by Country # Country Renewable Energy Generation 1 Iceland 86.87% 2 Norway 71.56% 3 Sweden 50.92% 4 Brazil 46.22% 5 New Zealand 40.22% 6 Denmark 39.25% 7 Austria 37.48% 8 Switzerland 36.72% 9 Finland 34.61% 10 Colombia 33.02% 11 Portugal 32.7% 12 Ecuador 32.35% 13 Canada 29.89% 14 Venezuela 28.43% 15 Croatia 28.27% 16 Peru 27.74% 17 Chile 26.52% 18 Latvia 23.92% 19 Vietnam 22.73% 20 Spain 22.34% 21 Sri Lanka 21.4% 22 Germany 19.45% 23 Greece 19.39% 24 Slovenia 18.77% 25 Italy 18.36% 26 United Kingdom 17.95% 27 Ireland 17.58% 28 Romania 17.48% 29 Turkey 16.52% 30 People's Republic of China 14.95% 31 Republic of Macedonia 14.82% 32 Estonia 14.33% 33 France 13.67% 34 Australia 12.93% 35 Netherlands 12.37% 36 Bulgaria 11.49% 37 Japan 11.43% 38 Argentina 11.33% 39 Philippines 10.9 40 United States of America 10.66% wisevoter.com/country-rankings/renewable-energy-by-country/#taiwan
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Post by oggyoggy on Dec 2, 2023 11:20:43 GMT
Perhaps we should begin serious investment in renewables? With our skills in innovation, perhaps we could lead the world in it. Be to renewables what Saudi is for oil and gas. But this government has no vision or long term plan, other than for power. We were in relation to wind a threw that away. We could be in relation to tidal energy but we'll balls that up to no doubt. Or sell it to another nation’s government to fleece us on costs (subsidised by our government, naturally)
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Post by iancransonsknees on Dec 2, 2023 12:01:37 GMT
We were in relation to wind a threw that away. We could be in relation to tidal energy but we'll balls that up to no doubt. Or sell it to another nation’s government to fleece us on costs (subsidised by our government, naturally) Amen brother.
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Post by mtrstudent on Dec 3, 2023 17:30:16 GMT
Cruachan Pumped Storage making progress?Seems a good idea, they're talking about expanding one of the hydro storage sites in Scotland. As I understand it they can store days worth of power instead of just a few hours like normal battery banks.
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Post by mrcoke on Dec 3, 2023 17:40:26 GMT
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Post by mtrstudent on Dec 3, 2023 20:18:52 GMT
Just found this: "Six projects currently under development in Scotland will more than double the UK’s pumped storage hydro capacity to 7.7GW, create almost 15,000 jobs and generate up to £5.8 billion for the UK economy by 2035, a report by Scottish Renewables and BiGGAR Economics has found."
The big ones they list are Coire Glas (2031), Corrievarkie (2031) and Balliemeanoch (2035). They'd increase UK storage from 27 to 123 GWh, which is decent numbers.
It's the renewables lobby so might be a bit fantastical of course.
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Post by mrcoke on Dec 3, 2023 23:47:33 GMT
Sunak claims UK World Word Leadership in Renewables Renewable Energy Percentage by Country # Country Renewable Energy Generation 1 Iceland 86.87% 2 Norway 71.56% 3 Sweden 50.92% 4 Brazil 46.22% 5 New Zealand 40.22% 6 Denmark 39.25% 7 Austria 37.48% 8 Switzerland 36.72% 9 Finland 34.61% 10 Colombia 33.02% 11 Portugal 32.7% 12 Ecuador 32.35% 13 Canada 29.89% 14 Venezuela 28.43% 15 Croatia 28.27% 16 Peru 27.74% 17 Chile 26.52% 18 Latvia 23.92% 19 Vietnam 22.73% 20 Spain 22.34% 21 Sri Lanka 21.4% 22 Germany 19.45% 23 Greece 19.39% 24 Slovenia 18.77% 25 Italy 18.36% 26 United Kingdom 17.95% 27 Ireland 17.58% 28 Romania 17.48% 29 Turkey 16.52% 30 People's Republic of China 14.95% 31 Republic of Macedonia 14.82% 32 Estonia 14.33% 33 France 13.67% 34 Australia 12.93% 35 Netherlands 12.37% 36 Bulgaria 11.49% 37 Japan 11.43% 38 Argentina 11.33% 39 Philippines 10.9 40 United States of America 10.66% wisevoter.com/country-rankings/renewable-energy-by-country/#taiwanI think you are selling the UK short. It is an established fact the UK renewables proportion of annual power generation is around 40%. Who are wisevoter? Where do they get their data from? Furthermore it is incongruous to compare small nations with minimal energy demand with large economies like Germany, UK, France, and Italy. I do believe that Sunak was referring to the major economies actually. www.current-news.co.uk/uk-ranked-sixth-in-the-world-for-solar-and-wind-generation/www.businessgreen.com/news-analysis/4117937/uk-remains-near-global-renewables-league-table-defend-positionyearbook.enerdata.net/renewables/renewable-in-electricity-production-share.htmlessmag.co.uk/the-countries-leading-the-way-in-renewable-energy/A comprehensive set of energy data can be read in this paper: assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/1130451/UK_Energy_in_Brief_2022.pdfThe UK has clearly made major strides since the 1980s. The graph on page 13 shows how much the proportion of low carbon fuel has improved since 2008. Coal consumption (production and imports) has fallen to a tiny fraction - virtually all my former UK colleagues in coke making have lost their jobs. Regrettably the government have curtailed oil production licences in the past decade (It is actually the major reason for reduced investment in the UK since 2015 - not Brexit.), so the UK has had to import more. I agree with the recent announcement to restore more self sufficiency from the North Sea rather than rely on imports from round the world for the next few decades till oil consumption is replaced. Gas has replaced coal, which is a step in the right direction, but it will take decades to reduce domestic gas usage to acceptable levels.
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Post by wannabee on Dec 4, 2023 1:29:45 GMT
Sunak claims UK World Word Leadership in Renewables Renewable Energy Percentage by Country # Country Renewable Energy Generation 1 Iceland 86.87% 2 Norway 71.56% 3 Sweden 50.92% 4 Brazil 46.22% 5 New Zealand 40.22% 6 Denmark 39.25% 7 Austria 37.48% 8 Switzerland 36.72% 9 Finland 34.61% 10 Colombia 33.02% 11 Portugal 32.7% 12 Ecuador 32.35% 13 Canada 29.89% 14 Venezuela 28.43% 15 Croatia 28.27% 16 Peru 27.74% 17 Chile 26.52% 18 Latvia 23.92% 19 Vietnam 22.73% 20 Spain 22.34% 21 Sri Lanka 21.4% 22 Germany 19.45% 23 Greece 19.39% 24 Slovenia 18.77% 25 Italy 18.36% 26 United Kingdom 17.95% 27 Ireland 17.58% 28 Romania 17.48% 29 Turkey 16.52% 30 People's Republic of China 14.95% 31 Republic of Macedonia 14.82% 32 Estonia 14.33% 33 France 13.67% 34 Australia 12.93% 35 Netherlands 12.37% 36 Bulgaria 11.49% 37 Japan 11.43% 38 Argentina 11.33% 39 Philippines 10.9 40 United States of America 10.66% wisevoter.com/country-rankings/renewable-energy-by-country/#taiwanI think you are selling the UK short. It is an established fact the UK renewables proportion of annual power generation is around 40%.
Who are wisevoter? Where do they get their data from? Furthermore it is incongruous to compare small nations with minimal energy demand with large economies like Germany, UK, France, and Italy. I do believe that Sunak was referring to the major economies actually. www.current-news.co.uk/uk-ranked-sixth-in-the-world-for-solar-and-wind-generation/www.businessgreen.com/news-analysis/4117937/uk-remains-near-global-renewables-league-table-defend-positionyearbook.enerdata.net/renewables/renewable-in-electricity-production-share.htmlessmag.co.uk/the-countries-leading-the-way-in-renewable-energy/A comprehensive set of energy data can be read in this paper: assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/1130451/UK_Energy_in_Brief_2022.pdfThe UK has clearly made major strides since the 1980s. The graph on page 13 shows how much the proportion of low carbon fuel has improved since 2008. Coal consumption (production and imports) has fallen to a tiny fraction - virtually all my former UK colleagues in coke making have lost their jobs. Regrettably the government have curtailed oil production licences in the past decade (It is actually the major reason for reduced investment in the UK since 2015 - not Brexit.), so the UK has had to import more. I agree with the recent announcement to restore more self sufficiency from the North Sea rather than rely on imports from round the world for the next few decades till oil consumption is replaced. Gas has replaced coal, which is a step in the right direction, but it will take decades to reduce domestic gas usage to acceptable levels. The part I have highlighted in your post is a sleight of hand propagated by UK Government so I'm not surprised you have been genuinely fooled along with many others The UK energy market is dominated by the use of oil and gas, together responsible for around 80% of total energy consumed. Oil is predominantly used in transport, while gas is mainly used as a source of heat. A smaller proportion of the UK’s gas use is in electricity generation Electricity (Which UK Government likes to talk about) accounts for just 20% of UK’s total energy use. In 2019 43% of electricity was from fossil fuels and 37% from renewables. This 37% is the source of the myth which is often spouted by Government Ministers, unchallenged It is 37% of 20% eciu.net/analysis/briefings/uk-energy-policies-and-prices/uk-energy-and-emissionsThe figures I have quoted above that UK generates about 18% of its Energy from Renewables or a World Ranking of 26th is entirely correct
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Post by mrcoke on Dec 4, 2023 10:32:10 GMT
The part I have highlighted in your post is a sleight of hand propagated by UK Government so I'm not surprised you have been genuinely fooled along with many others The UK energy market is dominated by the use of oil and gas, together responsible for around 80% of total energy consumed. Oil is predominantly used in transport, while gas is mainly used as a source of heat. A smaller proportion of the UK’s gas use is in electricity generation Electricity (Which UK Government likes to talk about) accounts for just 20% of UK’s total energy use. In 2019 43% of electricity was from fossil fuels and 37% from renewables. This 37% is the source of the myth which is often spouted by Government Ministers, unchallenged It is 37% of 20% eciu.net/analysis/briefings/uk-energy-policies-and-prices/uk-energy-and-emissionsThe figures I have quoted above that UK generates about 18% of its Energy from Renewables or a World Ranking of 26th is entirely correct I repeat, you are selling the UK short; the UK is clearly a leading renewables country of the major economies in the world with very high population and large amount of industry. Comparing the UK with much smaller countries is a nonsense. The UK does not have the advantages of hydroelectric power capability like Canada and Norway (the most cost effective way), or solar power like Spain and Italy and for which you need large areas of flat land, which is largely under agriculture in the UK. The UK does have a huge "wind resource" which has seen massive investment since 2010. It is unfortunate the the UK got off to such a slow and late start, and still lagging on nuclear power. assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/1130451/UK_Energy_in_Brief_2022.pdf
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Post by foghornsgleghorn on Dec 4, 2023 12:16:42 GMT
The part I have highlighted in your post is a sleight of hand propagated by UK Government so I'm not surprised you have been genuinely fooled along with many others The UK energy market is dominated by the use of oil and gas, together responsible for around 80% of total energy consumed. Oil is predominantly used in transport, while gas is mainly used as a source of heat. A smaller proportion of the UK’s gas use is in electricity generation Electricity (Which UK Government likes to talk about) accounts for just 20% of UK’s total energy use. In 2019 43% of electricity was from fossil fuels and 37% from renewables. This 37% is the source of the myth which is often spouted by Government Ministers, unchallenged It is 37% of 20% eciu.net/analysis/briefings/uk-energy-policies-and-prices/uk-energy-and-emissionsThe figures I have quoted above that UK generates about 18% of its Energy from Renewables or a World Ranking of 26th is entirely correct Yes.An example of this is on the railways. We have less electrified railway than many nations. So we use diesel trains, and a lower percentage of overall energy use comes from renewables.
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Post by mrcoke on Dec 4, 2023 12:28:27 GMT
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Post by wannabee on Dec 4, 2023 12:51:20 GMT
The part I have highlighted in your post is a sleight of hand propagated by UK Government so I'm not surprised you have been genuinely fooled along with many others The UK energy market is dominated by the use of oil and gas, together responsible for around 80% of total energy consumed. Oil is predominantly used in transport, while gas is mainly used as a source of heat. A smaller proportion of the UK’s gas use is in electricity generation Electricity (Which UK Government likes to talk about) accounts for just 20% of UK’s total energy use. In 2019 43% of electricity was from fossil fuels and 37% from renewables. This 37% is the source of the myth which is often spouted by Government Ministers, unchallenged It is 37% of 20% eciu.net/analysis/briefings/uk-energy-policies-and-prices/uk-energy-and-emissionsThe figures I have quoted above that UK generates about 18% of its Energy from Renewables or a World Ranking of 26th is entirely correct I repeat, you are selling the UK short; the UK is clearly a leading renewables country of the major economies in the world with very high population and large amount of industry. Comparing the UK with much smaller countries is a nonsense. The UK does not have the advantages of hydroelectric power capability like Canada and Norway (the most cost effective way), or solar power like Spain and Italy and for which you need large areas of flat land, which is largely under agriculture in the UK. The UK does have a huge "wind resource" which has seen massive investment since 2010. It is unfortunate the the UK got off to such a slow and late start, and still lagging on nuclear power. assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/1130451/UK_Energy_in_Brief_2022.pdfNo Mr Coke it is you who are telling Porkies like you do on a lot of things. You made a CATEGORICAL Claim which is entirely incorrect. I acknowledged you may have been misled but now it seems you tried to make a deliberate deception The Countries that are doing better than UK can hardly be described as 3rd World they are simply taking the Environmental issue more seriously I didn't even bother to correct you again in your original post when you made another false claim that UK handing out new North Sea licences made UK more Energy secure. It doesn't, I and others have pointed out to you several times that UK Government have no control of the Oil and Gas, it will be sold on the wholesale market where UK can compete alongside every other Country. You just can't help yourself from repeating this falsehood As for UK being blessed with a "wind resource" this I can agree with and quite a lot of it is contained in the environs of Westminster or from other individuals who try and blow smoke up other people's asses.
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Post by wannabee on Dec 4, 2023 14:27:43 GMT
This is a classic case of "If you don't like the answer change the question" You have retreated, but not yet acknowledged, your ridiculous claim that it was a FACT UK derived 40% of Energy from Renewables when IN FACT it is less than half that Your latest post is justifying this poor performance Is Parliament not Sovereign to enact Environmental Legislation? Which it could equally have done within EU. Having failed to successfully Gaslight on the relatively poor performance with inaccuracies you are now trying to construct a bogus argument for the poor performance
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Post by iancransonsknees on Dec 7, 2023 8:17:15 GMT
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Post by Rednwhitenblue on Dec 13, 2023 9:04:32 GMT
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Post by mrcoke on Dec 13, 2023 10:08:43 GMT
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Post by wagsastokie on Dec 13, 2023 10:43:52 GMT
We were in relation to wind a threw that away. We could be in relation to tidal energy but we'll balls that up to no doubt. Tidal energy is what we should have been pursuing years ago imo. We have some of the biggest tidal ranges globally and it is an absolute constant regardless of anything. Imagine a fucking great turbine in the Thames or Severn Estuaries. Even down here in Devon we have Tamar, Plym, Yealm, Erm , Avon & Dart rivers with large estuaries that could provide cheap energy forever. Don’t disagree about tidal If we had pursued this fifteen twenty years ago we might have just achieved one or two by now After law suits after law suits There’s plans being discussed to build a tidal barrier between kings Lynn and Skegness across the wash approx eight miles with a road running across the top cutting the traveling time between the two by a hour at least Bingo save the wash save the seals save the birds all crawl out of the woodwork If the idea gets support it will be held up by court actions for years And there lies one of the fundamental problems those that most want environmental change are the first to object to the solutions on offer
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Post by lawrieleslie on Dec 13, 2023 11:06:05 GMT
Tidal energy is what we should have been pursuing years ago imo. We have some of the biggest tidal ranges globally and it is an absolute constant regardless of anything. Imagine a fucking great turbine in the Thames or Severn Estuaries. Even down here in Devon we have Tamar, Plym, Yealm, Erm , Avon & Dart rivers with large estuaries that could provide cheap energy forever. Don’t disagree about tidal If we had pursued this fifteen twenty years ago we might have just achieved one or two by now After law suits after law suits There’s plans being discussed to build a tidal barrier between kings Lynn and Skegness across the wash approx eight miles with a road running across the top cutting the traveling time between the two by a hour at least Bingo save the wash save the seals save the birds all crawl out of the woodwork If the idea gets support it will be held up by court actions for years And there lies one of the fundamental problems those that most want environmental change are the first to object to the solutions on offer Couldn’t agree more with that mate. There is a small hydro electric generator at Totnes Weir on River Dart and it took 18 years of battling against tree huggers of Totnes to get it approved.
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Post by cvillestokie on Dec 13, 2023 12:07:10 GMT
It’s hardly surprising that Asian cities produce more pollution. There are more people in them to produce it.
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Post by foghornsgleghorn on Dec 13, 2023 12:30:06 GMT
Tidal energy is what we should have been pursuing years ago imo. We have some of the biggest tidal ranges globally and it is an absolute constant regardless of anything. Imagine a fucking great turbine in the Thames or Severn Estuaries. Even down here in Devon we have Tamar, Plym, Yealm, Erm , Avon & Dart rivers with large estuaries that could provide cheap energy forever. Don’t disagree about tidal If we had pursued this fifteen twenty years ago we might have just achieved one or two by now After law suits after law suits There’s plans being discussed to build a tidal barrier between kings Lynn and Skegness across the wash approx eight miles with a road running across the top cutting the traveling time between the two by a hour at least Bingo save the wash save the seals save the birds all crawl out of the woodwork If the idea gets support it will be held up by court actions for years And there lies one of the fundamental problems those that most want environmental change are the first to object to the solutions on offer That's just a shipping port trying to get approval based on tidal generation.
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Post by Northy on Dec 14, 2023 7:42:30 GMT
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