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Post by cvillestokie on May 11, 2023 15:33:12 GMT
You’d think that Eli David, a person with a degree in data modeling would understand that taking two timepoints in one region means little. It’s almost as if he’s right wing and know what his base wants to hear…..
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Post by Rednwhitenblue on May 11, 2023 15:54:30 GMT
You’d think that Eli David, a person with a degree in data modeling would understand that taking two timepoints in one region means little. It’s almost as if he’s right wing and know what his base wants to hear….. Jesus And there I was thinking we'd just about seen the back of dickheads going on about weather in relation to climate change...
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Post by svengaliinplatforms on May 22, 2023 6:57:41 GMT
I recycle all of my household recyclables. But the new 'fad' of permanently attaching screw caps to pop bottles, is boiling my piss!! Grrrrr.
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Post by Rednwhitenblue on May 22, 2023 7:15:57 GMT
I recycle all of my household recyclables. But the new 'fad' of permanently attaching screw caps to pop bottles, is boiling my piss!! Grrrrr. For decades it's been possible to recycle plastic bottles (for cash off your shopping) at most supermarkets in Germany. Why the fuck we're incapable of doing the same here is a mystery...
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Post by Northy on May 22, 2023 15:57:19 GMT
I recycle all of my household recyclables. But the new 'fad' of permanently attaching screw caps to pop bottles, is boiling my piss!! Grrrrr. For decades it's been possible to recycle plastic bottles (for cash off your shopping) at most supermarkets in Germany. Why the fuck we're incapable of doing the same here is a mystery... and I bet they don't ship it off to Thailand to be burnt instead of being recycled.
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Post by foster on May 22, 2023 16:05:11 GMT
I recycle all of my household recyclables. But the new 'fad' of permanently attaching screw caps to pop bottles, is boiling my piss!! Grrrrr. For decades it's been possible to recycle plastic bottles (for cash off your shopping) at most supermarkets in Germany. Why the fuck we're incapable of doing the same here is a mystery... It's not exactly cash off your shopping. It's called 'pfand' and whenever you buy a plastic bottle you pay extra for it (10 cents per bottle for example). You get that back when you bring it back for recycling. It's the same system they use here for glass bottles and crates. A great way to stop people throwing plastic bottles into hedges as well. Could also be a nice little earner for kids who don't mind litter picking. allaboutberlin.com/guides/pfand-bottles
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Post by Rednwhitenblue on May 22, 2023 16:14:47 GMT
For decades it's been possible to recycle plastic bottles (for cash off your shopping) at most supermarkets in Germany. Why the fuck we're incapable of doing the same here is a mystery... It's not exactly cash off your shopping. It's called 'pfand' and whenever you buy a plastic bottle you pay extra for it (10 cents per bottle for example). You get that back when you bring it back for recycling. It's the same system they use here for glass bottles and crates. A great way to stop people throwing plastic bottles into hedges as well. Could also be a nice little earner for kids who don't mind litter picking. allaboutberlin.com/guides/pfand-bottlesI see. Perhaps it differs regionally. My extended family's local supermarkets, Edeka for the most part, give you a receipt at the end of your plastic recycling that you present to the cashier who uses it to reduce the shopping bill. It may well have changed since I last paid attention in a supermarket in Germany! Either way, the only thing I can think of for not doing it here is that the various supermarket companies, just like the various energy companies, have all bleated to the government about how taking any action like this would cost too much/prevent future investment/any other bullshit reason they can think of!
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Post by foster on May 22, 2023 16:30:41 GMT
It's not exactly cash off your shopping. It's called 'pfand' and whenever you buy a plastic bottle you pay extra for it (10 cents per bottle for example). You get that back when you bring it back for recycling. It's the same system they use here for glass bottles and crates. A great way to stop people throwing plastic bottles into hedges as well. Could also be a nice little earner for kids who don't mind litter picking. allaboutberlin.com/guides/pfand-bottlesI see. Perhaps it differs regionally. My extended family's local supermarkets, Edeka for the most part, give you a receipt at the end of your plastic recycling that you present to the cashier who uses it to reduce the shopping bill. It may well have changed since I last paid attention in a supermarket in Germany! Either way, the only thing I can think of for not doing it here is that the various supermarket companies, just like the various energy companies, have all bleated to the government about how taking any action like this would cost too much/prevent future investment/any other bullshit reason they can think of! You're right mate in that you get a receipt, it then gets scanned by the cashier and the amount deducted from your shopping bill. It's just that the amount is whatever you paid as pfand (deposit) for those bottles in the first place. Not free money, unless of course you've recycled bottles that you never originally paid for. So yeah you don't get cash back, which I didn't make clear. I meant to say cash back off your shopping bill. Have to admit that I've profited a few times from student cashiers not processing my crates of sparkling water properly. On occasion they add the pfand for the bottles but forget to add it for the crate itself. That's an easy 3.50 euro off my next shopping bill ... every little helps.
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Post by foster on May 22, 2023 16:36:58 GMT
It's not exactly cash off your shopping. It's called 'pfand' and whenever you buy a plastic bottle you pay extra for it (10 cents per bottle for example). You get that back when you bring it back for recycling. It's the same system they use here for glass bottles and crates. A great way to stop people throwing plastic bottles into hedges as well. Could also be a nice little earner for kids who don't mind litter picking. allaboutberlin.com/guides/pfand-bottlesI see. Perhaps it differs regionally. My extended family's local supermarkets, Edeka for the most part, give you a receipt at the end of your plastic recycling that you present to the cashier who uses it to reduce the shopping bill. It may well have changed since I last paid attention in a supermarket in Germany! Either way, the only thing I can think of for not doing it here is that the various supermarket companies, just like the various energy companies, have all bleated to the government about how taking any action like this would cost too much/prevent future investment/any other bullshit reason they can think of! It doesn't make sense not to have it. Better for the environment, better for roadside and parkland waste, and if bottles don't come back then the pfand doesn't get paid back so it's profit.
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Post by Northy on May 23, 2023 12:37:39 GMT
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Post by foster on May 23, 2023 12:57:05 GMT
TBH mate I'm skeptical about a country promoting initiatives like this when they can't even recycle properly. The best and simplest way of offsetting carbon is to plant trees and reduce emissions isn't it? I'm not convinced by most of this stuff and it just looks and sounds like greenwashing to me. In summary, it might be helpful in fighting climate change, but its not enough IMO.
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Post by Northy on May 23, 2023 13:55:45 GMT
TBH mate I'm skeptical about a country promoting initiatives like this when they can't even recycle properly. The best and simplest way of offsetting carbon is to plant trees and reduce emissions isn't it? I'm not convinced by most of this stuff and it just looks and sounds like greenwashing to me. In summary, it might be helpful in fighting climate change, but its not enough IMO. Thing is it's business's who are leading things like this, and it's the government leading on the recycling schemes. It would be all so simple to do, like all new houses must be passive with solar panels, water pre heat panels, grey water collection etc. the trouble is with that is the politicians friends wont make as much money then.
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Post by Northy on May 24, 2023 13:32:28 GMT
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Post by elystokie on May 24, 2023 14:29:11 GMT
If only there was a plant that can grow pretty much anywhere including in radiated soil (and would 'clean' that soil up), that also sequestered masses of CO2 from the atmosphere.
If only we could then use that plant for clothing, building, for replacing pretty much anything steel or wood is currently used for, that we could produce paper from to save chopping down millions of trees and whilst doing all of this we were locking that CO2 into these products for many years.
What an added bonus it would be if that plant could give us life saving medications and provide cures where modern medicine has failed.
How wonderful it would be for the environmental issue to receive such a boost, we can but hope that such a miracle plant is 'discovered' soon 😊
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Post by Rednwhitenblue on May 24, 2023 18:13:18 GMT
If only there was a plant that can grow pretty much anywhere including in radiated soil (and would 'clean' that soil up), that also sequestered masses of CO2 from the atmosphere. If only we could then use that plant for clothing, building, for replacing pretty much anything steel or wood is currently used for, that we could produce paper from to save chopping down millions of trees and whilst doing all of this we were locking that CO2 into these products for many years. What an added bonus it would be if that plant could give us life saving medications and provide cures where modern medicine has failed. How wonderful it would be for the environmental issue to receive such a boost, we can but hope that such a miracle plant is 'discovered' soon 😊 Tricky...is it good old Phil Jones's favourite, the humble spud?
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Post by lordb on May 24, 2023 18:27:44 GMT
If only there was a plant that can grow pretty much anywhere including in radiated soil (and would 'clean' that soil up), that also sequestered masses of CO2 from the atmosphere. If only we could then use that plant for clothing, building, for replacing pretty much anything steel or wood is currently used for, that we could produce paper from to save chopping down millions of trees and whilst doing all of this we were locking that CO2 into these products for many years. What an added bonus it would be if that plant could give us life saving medications and provide cures where modern medicine has failed. How wonderful it would be for the environmental issue to receive such a boost, we can but hope that such a miracle plant is 'discovered' soon 😊 Please forgive my ignorance but which plant are you alluding to? Genuinely don't know
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Post by elystokie on May 24, 2023 18:42:08 GMT
If only there was a plant that can grow pretty much anywhere including in radiated soil (and would 'clean' that soil up), that also sequestered masses of CO2 from the atmosphere. If only we could then use that plant for clothing, building, for replacing pretty much anything steel or wood is currently used for, that we could produce paper from to save chopping down millions of trees and whilst doing all of this we were locking that CO2 into these products for many years. What an added bonus it would be if that plant could give us life saving medications and provide cures where modern medicine has failed. How wonderful it would be for the environmental issue to receive such a boost, we can but hope that such a miracle plant is 'discovered' soon 😊 Please forgive my ignorance but which plant are you alluding to? Genuinely don't know No worries, I suspect you're far from alone 😄 Hemp, cannabis, call it what you will, more or less the same thing as far as the environment goes. Edit - I'm at a cannabis conversations talk at Kings College in London atm, I'll search out a video later 😊
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Post by elystokie on May 24, 2023 22:54:44 GMT
If only there was a plant that can grow pretty much anywhere including in radiated soil (and would 'clean' that soil up), that also sequestered masses of CO2 from the atmosphere. If only we could then use that plant for clothing, building, for replacing pretty much anything steel or wood is currently used for, that we could produce paper from to save chopping down millions of trees and whilst doing all of this we were locking that CO2 into these products for many years. What an added bonus it would be if that plant could give us life saving medications and provide cures where modern medicine has failed. How wonderful it would be for the environmental issue to receive such a boost, we can but hope that such a miracle plant is 'discovered' soon 😊 Please forgive my ignorance but which plant are you alluding to? Genuinely don't know
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Post by elystokie on May 25, 2023 9:14:57 GMT
Please forgive my ignorance but which plant are you alluding to? Genuinely don't know I've only just realised that videos relating to the hemp plant are age restricted, how bizarre, we should be teaching kids about saving the planet not denying them knowledge. Anyway, just look for 'hemp uses' on YouTube, there's loads of videos 🙂
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Post by Northy on May 25, 2023 11:46:57 GMT
If only there was a plant that can grow pretty much anywhere including in radiated soil (and would 'clean' that soil up), that also sequestered masses of CO2 from the atmosphere. If only we could then use that plant for clothing, building, for replacing pretty much anything steel or wood is currently used for, that we could produce paper from to save chopping down millions of trees and whilst doing all of this we were locking that CO2 into these products for many years. What an added bonus it would be if that plant could give us life saving medications and provide cures where modern medicine has failed. How wonderful it would be for the environmental issue to receive such a boost, we can but hope that such a miracle plant is 'discovered' soon 😊 It would have to be done in a very sympathetic way, otherwise you'd end up with another agridesert just like the upper fells have been cleared for sheep farming and game shooting, palm oil plantations etc.
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Post by elystokie on May 25, 2023 12:45:30 GMT
If only there was a plant that can grow pretty much anywhere including in radiated soil (and would 'clean' that soil up), that also sequestered masses of CO2 from the atmosphere. If only we could then use that plant for clothing, building, for replacing pretty much anything steel or wood is currently used for, that we could produce paper from to save chopping down millions of trees and whilst doing all of this we were locking that CO2 into these products for many years. What an added bonus it would be if that plant could give us life saving medications and provide cures where modern medicine has failed. How wonderful it would be for the environmental issue to receive such a boost, we can but hope that such a miracle plant is 'discovered' soon 😊 It would have to be done in a very sympathetic way, otherwise you'd end up with another agridesert just like the upper fells have been cleared for sheep farming and game shooting, palm oil plantations etc. We could start by replacing a lot of the cotton crops which require far more resources than hemp, are harsher on the soil, nowhere near as versatile, don't sequester as much CO2 and the clothing lasts a fraction of the time. As for creating agrideserts, I'm not knowledgeable enough about the long term effects but I'd have thought some form of crop rotation could be implemented. The first thing we need to do is remove all the obstacles to it being grown by anyone that wants to including scrapping the ridiculous current prohibition laws.
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Post by Northy on May 25, 2023 14:24:00 GMT
It would have to be done in a very sympathetic way, otherwise you'd end up with another agridesert just like the upper fells have been cleared for sheep farming and game shooting, palm oil plantations etc. We could start by replacing a lot of the cotton crops which require far more resources than hemp, are harsher on the soil, nowhere near as versatile, don't sequester as much CO2 and the clothing lasts a fraction of the time. As for creating agrideserts, I'm not knowledgeable enough about the long term effects but I'd have thought some form of crop rotation could be implemented. The first thing we need to do is remove all the obstacles to it being grown by anyone that wants to including scrapping the ridiculous current prohibition laws. Yep, I agree, but our half arsed government and civil servants would make a 'hash' of it
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Post by foster on May 25, 2023 14:30:30 GMT
I've only just realised that videos relating to the hemp plant are age restricted, how bizarre, we should be teaching kids about saving the planet not denying them knowledge. Anyway, just look for 'hemp uses' on YouTube, there's loads of videos 🙂 There must be alternatives, like trees. Not just plants related to cannabis use. The idea should be to attract people and I don't think marketing cannabis is necessarily the best way to go about it tbh.
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Post by elystokie on May 25, 2023 14:34:08 GMT
I've only just realised that videos relating to the hemp plant are age restricted, how bizarre, we should be teaching kids about saving the planet not denying them knowledge. Anyway, just look for 'hemp uses' on YouTube, there's loads of videos 🙂 There must be alternatives, like trees. Not just plants related to cannabis use. The idea should be to attract people and I don't think marketing cannabis is necessarily the best way to go about it tbh. Sorry for being thick but I'm not entirely sure what it is you're saying.
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Post by foster on May 25, 2023 14:46:46 GMT
There must be alternatives, like trees. Not just plants related to cannabis use. The idea should be to attract people and I don't think marketing cannabis is necessarily the best way to go about it tbh. Sorry for being thick but I'm not entirely sure what it is you're saying. You used cannabis as an example of a plant to use to combat climate change didn't you? I'm saying that to the wider public its probably not so appealing.
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Post by kidcrewbob on May 25, 2023 14:49:47 GMT
Ban the volcanoes - the dirty smoke belching bastards
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Post by elystokie on May 25, 2023 14:56:31 GMT
Sorry for being thick but I'm not entirely sure what it is you're saying. You used cannabis as an example of a plant to use to combat climate change didn't you? I'm saying that to the wider public its probably not so appealing. Ah right, I see. I wasn't using Cannabis as an 'example' as such, it's the only plant I'm aware of that has the qualities I've listed above and it's the best possible option by quite some distance. We need to re-educate the public, seems it's already happening in places like Canada and the US, judging by the polls there is an entirely different attitude to cannabis compared to what there was 10-20 years ago as more and more people are realising that the demonisation of cannabis was just one big scam.
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Post by foster on May 25, 2023 15:01:10 GMT
You used cannabis as an example of a plant to use to combat climate change didn't you? I'm saying that to the wider public its probably not so appealing. Ah right, I see. I wasn't using Cannabis as an 'example' as such, it's the only plant I'm aware of that has the qualities I've listed above and it's the best possible option by quite some distance. We need to re-educate the public, seems it's already happening in places like Canada and the US, judging by the polls there is an entirely different attitude to cannabis compared to what there was 10-20 years ago as more and more people are realising that the demonisation of cannabis was just one big scam. Mate, I bought a few shares in a Canadian cannabis company a couple of years ago and they've bombed. For the sake of my bank account I hope you're right.
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Post by elystokie on May 25, 2023 15:12:03 GMT
Ah right, I see. I wasn't using Cannabis as an 'example' as such, it's the only plant I'm aware of that has the qualities I've listed above and it's the best possible option by quite some distance. We need to re-educate the public, seems it's already happening in places like Canada and the US, judging by the polls there is an entirely different attitude to cannabis compared to what there was 10-20 years ago as more and more people are realising that the demonisation of cannabis was just one big scam. Mate, I bought a few shares in a Canadian cannabis company a couple of years ago and they've bombed. For the sake of my bank account I hope you're right. That's probably more to do with the saturation of the market if it was to do with medical/recreational cannabis than the qualities or the perception of the qualities by the general public, very difficult to make money I'd have thought when there's such a strong black market legacy from the days of prohibition. I'm talking more about large scale hemp growing for clothing, building, manufacturing etc than cannabis in this instance, hemp is basically cannabis but with less than 0.1-0.3% THC depending on the jurisdiction it's being grown in, it can't realistically get anyone stoned.
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Post by foster on May 25, 2023 15:17:43 GMT
Mate, I bought a few shares in a Canadian cannabis company a couple of years ago and they've bombed. For the sake of my bank account I hope you're right. That's probably more to do with the saturation of the market if it was to do with medical/recreational cannabis than the qualities or the perception of the qualities by the general public, very difficult to make money I'd have thought when there's such a strong black market legacy from the days of prohibition. I'm talking more about large scale hemp growing for clothing, building, manufacturing etc than cannabis in this instance, hemp is basically cannabis but with less than 0.1-0.3% THC depending on the jurisdiction it's being grown in, it can't realistically get anyone stoned. Just imagine if you could get stoned all day just by dressing in the morning. Relaxed all day and full use of the office cafeteria. Plus saving the planet. Win win.
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