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Post by wannabee on Nov 2, 2022 23:44:03 GMT
The improvement is in large part due to the weather however, not just capacity. UK, Germany, and Denmark had low wind power generation in 2021 despite record capacity installed. www.cnbc.com/2021/09/29/sse-says-low-wind-dry-conditions-hit-renewable-energy-generation.htmlWe can keep increasing capacity but the wind also needs to blow! I don't think we will be able to shut many gas fired power stations till we have a lot more nuclear available; till then we will have to keep gas fired stations on stand-by. The reasons for Instability and Insecurity of UK Energy are many and varied and date back decades Certainly the absence of Nuclear is a major issue The closure of Rough Storage due to lack of Government support is now seen to be a disaster Having 3 of the largest in Europe LNG Conversion Plants at Milford Haven and Isle of Grain while having only 1% of European Storage Capacity is a complete imbalance, to put it politely At least the Storage facilities in Europe are Brimful Obviously we're talking about the War in Ukraine and the intermittent supply from Russia Germany got their Energy Strategy Badly wrong, France mostly got it right with their Neuclear Policy but have been plagued this year with under capacity due to maintenance issues. This has largely been the reason for UK Energy Exports a situation unlikely to persist
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Post by Northy on Nov 3, 2022 7:24:46 GMT
Yes, but two go next year and one after, they only prodabput 3 gw/h though Last one I was on was 840MW (not coal) and that was considered 2% of the UK's needs, can't remember if that was of the average or the max, 3 or 4 times that is still a fair chunk either way, have they got more CCGTs or nuclear opening or are renewables forecast to take up the slack? Renewable and ccgt for the short term, they may extend existing nuclear plants timescales, Rolls Royce are developing small nuclear plants for more localised distribution then the large nuclear will come in about 15 years
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Post by elystokie on Nov 3, 2022 7:44:04 GMT
Last one I was on was 840MW (not coal) and that was considered 2% of the UK's needs, can't remember if that was of the average or the max, 3 or 4 times that is still a fair chunk either way, have they got more CCGTs or nuclear opening or are renewables forecast to take up the slack? Renewable and ccgt for the short term, they may extend existing nuclear plants timescales, Rolls Royce are developing small nuclear plants for more localised distribution then the large nuclear will come in about 15 years Yeh, think it'll be some time before CCGT's are out of the picture, it's difficult to replace the flexibility they offer. CCGT place I worked is mothballed but there's talk of reopening that and building another next to it.
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Post by mrcoke on Nov 3, 2022 9:11:01 GMT
As we enter winter we are going to again rely on France for a significant amount of our power. At the risk of being accused again of being "anti - foreigner" I think we need to continue to push on to be self sufficient in energy and indeed become a renewable energy supplier to Europe, something the SNP have sights on, with huge potential to produce abundant amounts of wind and wave power. But the French nuclear industry faces many problems with aging plant and if they start to run short of generating capacity it will be the UK that goes short. www.cnbc.com/2022/10/05/frances-nuclear-heavy-energy-strategy-faces-big-problems-this-winter.htmlwww.france24.com/en/20170710-france-hulot-could-close-nuclear-plantsIn our own back yard there are NIMBYS at work seeking to oppose the construction of hundreds of miles of new cables and pylons needed to transport the energy from the North Sea to the south of England where most electricity is consumed. These are generally Tory voters. So will the Tory government give the go ahead?
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Post by mtrstudent on Nov 5, 2022 17:04:36 GMT
As we enter winter we are going to again rely on France for a significant amount of our power. At the risk of being accused again of being "anti - foreigner" I think we need to continue to push on to be self sufficient in energy and indeed become a renewable energy supplier to Europe, something the SNP have sights on, with huge potential to produce abundant amounts of wind and wave power. But the French nuclear industry faces many problems with aging plant and if they start to run short of generating capacity it will be the UK that goes short. www.cnbc.com/2022/10/05/frances-nuclear-heavy-energy-strategy-faces-big-problems-this-winter.htmlwww.france24.com/en/20170710-france-hulot-could-close-nuclear-plantsIn our own back yard there are NIMBYS at work seeking to oppose the construction of hundreds of miles of new cables and pylons needed to transport the energy from the North Sea to the south of England where most electricity is consumed. These are generally Tory voters. So will the Tory government give the go ahead? If the bankers can't run their London mansions without the cables then you'd expect them to get built? Offshore wind is now a huge British success story. Let's not fuck it up. EDIT: I don't think enough of the public realise how offshore wind prices have changed. The latest round was under 4p/kWh. The first round was more like 12p/kWh. We've driven prices down so far you'd hope we can sell our skills.
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Post by Northy on Nov 14, 2022 9:02:16 GMT
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Post by knype on Nov 14, 2022 9:43:37 GMT
Positive news IMO and one that everyone should be behind?
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Post by Northy on Nov 14, 2022 16:48:47 GMT
Positive news IMO and one that everyone should be behind? yep, will bring energy to 4 million homes which would reduce the gas reliance, and as we have had another record temperature yesterday it can only be welcomed.
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Post by mrcoke on Nov 14, 2022 20:57:24 GMT
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Post by wannabee on Nov 14, 2022 23:52:52 GMT
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Post by Northy on Nov 15, 2022 8:30:33 GMT
Although the story is from July, and Australia elections changed it's Government in May to a more environmentally thinking government, which has stalled the signing of the deal, but another cock up by Liz truss, She forced the civil servants negotiating the deal into tight timescales and the result was the deal which was originally intended to ensure tariff-free trade between Australia and the UK, but the final terms of the agreement gave Australia full access to the UK market to sell beef and sheep, while Australia still bans the import of British beef, ridiculous. Buy local, buy British, if we all did this instead of buying shit from Amazon and big supermarkets that have flown stuff in from around the world, we would be healthier, and the economy would benefit.
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Post by mrcoke on Nov 15, 2022 9:21:46 GMT
Although the story is from July, and Australia elections changed it's Government in May to a more environmentally thinking government, which has stalled the signing of the deal, but another cock up by Liz truss, She forced the civil servants negotiating the deal into tight timescales and the result was the deal which was originally intended to ensure tariff-free trade between Australia and the UK, but the final terms of the agreement gave Australia full access to the UK market to sell beef and sheep, while Australia still bans the import of British beef, ridiculous. Buy local, buy British, if we all did this instead of buying shit from Amazon and big supermarkets that have flown stuff in from around the world, we would be healthier, and the economy would benefit. I agree. Apart from loyalty to Britain, UK beef, lamb, and pork is the best in the world. I don't agree with sending food half way round the world past nations that are starving anyway. Is it environmentally friendly? Having said that beef exports to the US are booming, so there will be little to send to Australia anyway. www.thegrocer.co.uk/meat/uk-red-meat-exports-hit-record-levels-during-first-half-of-2022/670968.articleThere is already a big enough home market for UK food producers that they can't satisfy and we import over 200,000 tonne pa of meat from the EU notably Ireland. No one will be forced to eat Australian beef will they? www.grocerygazette.co.uk/2022/05/30/morrisons-support-beef-lamb/The consumption of red meat is in decline in the UK and the Australia deal is phased over 15 years. By then there will be little call for imported beef. www.theguardian.com/food/2021/oct/08/cuts-uk-meat-consumption-doubled-health-researchers-foodI suspect in a generation from now, fields that had cattle grazing will be covered in solar panels, windmills, vertical farms, trees, and maybe some actual food crops managed by robotic machines.
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Post by Northy on Nov 15, 2022 9:29:36 GMT
Although the story is from July, and Australia elections changed it's Government in May to a more environmentally thinking government, which has stalled the signing of the deal, but another cock up by Liz truss, She forced the civil servants negotiating the deal into tight timescales and the result was the deal which was originally intended to ensure tariff-free trade between Australia and the UK, but the final terms of the agreement gave Australia full access to the UK market to sell beef and sheep, while Australia still bans the import of British beef, ridiculous. Buy local, buy British, if we all did this instead of buying shit from Amazon and big supermarkets that have flown stuff in from around the world, we would be healthier, and the economy would benefit. I agree. Apart from loyalty to Britain, UK beef, lamb, and pork is the best in the world. I don't agree with sending food half way round the world past nations that are starving anyway. Is it environmentally friendly? Having said that beef exports to the US are booming, so there will be little to send to Australia anyway. www.thegrocer.co.uk/meat/uk-red-meat-exports-hit-record-levels-during-first-half-of-2022/670968.articleThere is already a big enough home market for UK food producers that they can't satisfy and we import over 200,000 tonne pa of meat from the EU notably Ireland. No one will be forced to eat Australian beef will they? www.grocerygazette.co.uk/2022/05/30/morrisons-support-beef-lamb/The consumption of red meat is in decline in the UK and the Australia deal is phased over 15 years. By then there will be little call for imported beef. www.theguardian.com/food/2021/oct/08/cuts-uk-meat-consumption-doubled-health-researchers-foodI suspect in a generation from now, fields that had cattle grazing will be covered in solar panels, windmills, vertical farms, trees, and maybe some actual food crops managed by robotic machines. One of my friends who is a sheep farmer near Lower Peover near Middlewich (I get my lamb direct from them) have just taken a small number of cows, purely for beef and not dairy.
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Post by mrcoke on Nov 15, 2022 10:23:59 GMT
I agree. Apart from loyalty to Britain, UK beef, lamb, and pork is the best in the world. I don't agree with sending food half way round the world past nations that are starving anyway. Is it environmentally friendly? Having said that beef exports to the US are booming, so there will be little to send to Australia anyway. www.thegrocer.co.uk/meat/uk-red-meat-exports-hit-record-levels-during-first-half-of-2022/670968.articleThere is already a big enough home market for UK food producers that they can't satisfy and we import over 200,000 tonne pa of meat from the EU notably Ireland. No one will be forced to eat Australian beef will they? www.grocerygazette.co.uk/2022/05/30/morrisons-support-beef-lamb/The consumption of red meat is in decline in the UK and the Australia deal is phased over 15 years. By then there will be little call for imported beef. www.theguardian.com/food/2021/oct/08/cuts-uk-meat-consumption-doubled-health-researchers-foodI suspect in a generation from now, fields that had cattle grazing will be covered in solar panels, windmills, vertical farms, trees, and maybe some actual food crops managed by robotic machines. One of my friends who is a sheep farmer near Lower Peover near Middlewich (I get my lamb direct from them) have just taken a small number of cows, purely for beef and not dairy. I hope they are successful. There is certainly a huge increase in meat prices and forcast of increase world demand for food due to population growth and climate change reducing output in many countries. The world demand many reduce availability of imports. Going back to the Australian beef issue, one former Aussie premier said some time ago that there is more than enough demand for Australian beef in China and the Far East. In the UK the only real growth area in livestock production is poultry with new "houses" springing up in lots of places. I know the Yorkshire Vet, Peter Wright, well and he tells me there are sectors that struggle and others doing well. Nice to hear about Middlewich. I once worked in a salt works there by the canal in my student days in the 60s.
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Post by wannabee on Nov 15, 2022 11:02:47 GMT
I agree. Apart from loyalty to Britain, UK beef, lamb, and pork is the best in the world. I don't agree with sending food half way round the world past nations that are starving anyway. Is it environmentally friendly? Having said that beef exports to the US are booming, so there will be little to send to Australia anyway. www.thegrocer.co.uk/meat/uk-red-meat-exports-hit-record-levels-during-first-half-of-2022/670968.articleThere is already a big enough home market for UK food producers that they can't satisfy and we import over 200,000 tonne pa of meat from the EU notably Ireland. No one will be forced to eat Australian beef will they? www.grocerygazette.co.uk/2022/05/30/morrisons-support-beef-lamb/The consumption of red meat is in decline in the UK and the Australia deal is phased over 15 years. By then there will be little call for imported beef. www.theguardian.com/food/2021/oct/08/cuts-uk-meat-consumption-doubled-health-researchers-foodI suspect in a generation from now, fields that had cattle grazing will be covered in solar panels, windmills, vertical farms, trees, and maybe some actual food crops managed by robotic machines. One of my friends who is a sheep farmer near Lower Peover near Middlewich (I get my lamb direct from them) have just taken a small number of cows, purely for beef and not dairy. Thank you for you informative post and also above You know far more about this than I which admittedly is little other than what I read My understanding and confirmed apparently by George Useless was that the reason why every Environmental Group and Farming Group were against the deal were because of the Standards employed by Australian Farmers e.g. Hormones and Illegal in UK Pesticides and Fertilisers. This would give Australian Farmers a competitive advantage as well as damageing the Environment It is why they have jointly brought an Aarhus Legal Challenge against Government for breaching International Environmental Law Furthermore despite assurances (no surprise there) the enabling Bill, despite opposition, was guillotined through Parliament without scrutiny or debate. A rather peculiar way of "Taking Back Control" Even the Australian press reported on what a crap deal it was for UK and how it was cloacked in secrecy despite Liz Truss receiving severe warnings which she declined to disclose A Freedom of Information (FOI) request has revealed that Liz Truss – the then-trade secretary from 2019 to 2021 and now Tory leadership contender – received detailed warnings about the harsh impact on the farming and food sectors.
However, the forecasts of losses – from both the Australia and New Zealand agreements – were kept secret when talks were launched in 2020.
aftinet.org.au/cms/node/2177 This is just a sample of the many negative comments UK Environmental and Farming Groups have made Katie White, Executive Director of Advocacy and Campaigns at WWF, said: “People don’t want the food on their plates to fuel the climate and nature crises. Yet behind closed doors the UK Government has cut trade deals with Australia, an environmental laggard, opening our shores to imports without adequate safeguards for climate and nature. “It’s totally unacceptable that the public and Parliament have been denied a say on these trade agreements when their consequences will be felt for generations to come – full scrutiny is essential if we are to avoid a deal by defaultethicalnews.org/charities-ngos/uk-government-accused-of-breaching-international-law-over-trade-deals/
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Post by mrcoke on Nov 18, 2022 11:10:55 GMT
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Post by lawrieleslie on Nov 20, 2022 8:35:29 GMT
COP27 have opened the corruption floodgates by agreeing "reparation packages" to developing countries in my opinion. Isn’t the £14b a year in overseas aid not enough?
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Post by mtrstudent on Nov 21, 2022 14:10:37 GMT
COP27 have opened the corruption floodgates by agreeing "reparation packages" to developing countries in my opinion. Isn’t the £14b a year in overseas aid not enough? As far as I can tell the reparations they're talking about are a tiny amount in comparison to the damages we expect. But funnelling it into an oligarch's pocket wouldn't fix that would it.
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Post by wagsastokie on Nov 21, 2022 15:40:58 GMT
Until there all ready to curb fossil fuel use
They should pack the whole pointless talking shop up It’s nothing short of a pathetic expensive jolly
There’s no point in holding the whole thing until China India the USA and the Arabs are prepared to To cut there use of fossil fuels
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Post by lawrieleslie on Nov 21, 2022 16:18:08 GMT
COP27 have opened the corruption floodgates by agreeing "reparation packages" to developing countries in my opinion. Isn’t the £14b a year in overseas aid not enough? As far as I can tell the reparations they're talking about are a tiny amount in comparison to the damages we expect. But funnelling it into an oligarch's pocket wouldn't fix that would it. Exactly my point. Do we even have a handle on our overseas aid spending? I doubt it very much.
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Post by mrcoke on Nov 23, 2022 11:45:37 GMT
Latest round of renewable energy contracts awarded, 11GW in total, floating offshore wind and small tidal generation are included for the first time When generating they will be four times less the cost of current gas prices. News on tidal power: A barrier at the Wash: www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-lincolnshire-63708269
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Post by foghornsgleghorn on Nov 23, 2022 12:40:11 GMT
Latest round of renewable energy contracts awarded, 11GW in total, floating offshore wind and small tidal generation are included for the first time When generating they will be four times less the cost of current gas prices. News on tidal power: A barrier at the Wash: www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-lincolnshire-63708269Deep sea container port? Dual carriageway? Any deep sea container port needs to be rail connected. I can only assume the dual carriageway will be on the Lincs side as I'm not sure Sandringham estate will be having a stream of container trucks thundering through.
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Post by mrcoke on Nov 23, 2022 17:30:07 GMT
Deep sea container port? Dual carriageway? Any deep sea container port needs to be rail connected. I can only assume the dual carriageway will be on the Lincs side as I'm not sure Sandringham estate will be having a stream of container trucks thundering through. You are correct about the duel carriageway being on the Lincs. side. This link says there will be four rail terminals connected to the East Coast Main Line, and claims the scheme will take existing other port/Chunnel traffic off the roads. I read somewhere it is aiming to complete by 2028 but I think that is optimistic. I expect there will loads of "green" objections to planning permission. www.lincolnshirelive.co.uk/news/local-news/worlds-first-tidal-powered-container-7698678
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Post by foghornsgleghorn on Nov 23, 2022 22:31:15 GMT
Deep sea container port? Dual carriageway? Any deep sea container port needs to be rail connected. I can only assume the dual carriageway will be on the Lincs side as I'm not sure Sandringham estate will be having a stream of container trucks thundering through. You are correct about the duel carriageway being on the Lincs. side. This link says there will be four rail terminals connected to the East Coast Main Line, and claims the scheme will take existing other port/Chunnel traffic off the roads. I read somewhere it is aiming to complete by 2028 but I think that is optimistic. I expect there will loads of "green" objections to planning permission. www.lincolnshirelive.co.uk/news/local-news/worlds-first-tidal-powered-container-7698678Thanks for the link. Hmmm. Will be very interested to see exactly how the capacity-constrained East Coast Main line is supposed to handle these trains even if the port somehow funds the necessary upgrades to the connection. But the talk of serving the East & West Midlands means crossing the East Coast mainline, an issue which has been a problem at Newark for years. A bit more below, but at this it seems very lacking in detail on the connecting links ,certainly £2bn might pay for the port /barrage but the required transport network upgrades would need more on top that. When Felixstowe has not even financed doubling of the short Felixstowe branch line I remain sceptical of how much Centre Port plan to spend. www.newcivilengineer.com/latest/plans-revealed-for-2bn-tidal-barrage-featuring-container-terminal-flood-defence-and-rail-and-road-links-22-11-2022/Hunstanton and Skegness are very slow to get to by road.
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Post by mrcoke on Nov 24, 2022 10:03:18 GMT
One of the issues with renewable energy in the future will be balancing generation with demand. The wind doesn't blow all the time, nor does the sun shine. Demand is high in the day time and low at night. Work is being done on battery development and I expect "excess" energy will be used to generate hydrogen. There is Dinorwig hydroelectric power storage in Wales. There is a scheme being developed in Scotland, where there will be lots of excess wind power in the future to produce gravitricity: dailybusinessgroup.co.uk/2022/11/scots-energy-pioneer-helps-decarbonise-india/
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Post by dutchstokie on Nov 24, 2022 10:13:12 GMT
One of the issues with renewable energy in the future will be balancing generation with demand. The wind doesn't blow all the time, nor does the sun shine. Demand is high in the day time and low at night. Work is being done on battery development and I expect "excess" energy will be used to generate hydrogen. There is Dinerwig hydroelectric power storage in Wales. There is a scheme being developed in Scotland, where there will be lots of excess wind power in the future to produce gravitricity: dailybusinessgroup.co.uk/2022/11/scots-energy-pioneer-helps-decarbonise-india/Before you can balance the demand, you have to have the infrastructure on shore to cope with it all. It simply isnt there..... This should have been given the get go 30 years ago
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Post by superjw on Nov 24, 2022 10:24:32 GMT
One of the issues with renewable energy in the future will be balancing generation with demand. The wind doesn't blow all the time, nor does the sun shine. Demand is high in the day time and low at night. Work is being done on battery development and I expect "excess" energy will be used to generate hydrogen. There is Dinerwig hydroelectric power storage in Wales. There is a scheme being developed in Scotland, where there will be lots of excess wind power in the future to produce gravitricity: dailybusinessgroup.co.uk/2022/11/scots-energy-pioneer-helps-decarbonise-india/Before you can balance the demand, you have to have the infrastructure on shore to cope with it all. It simply isnt there..... This should have been given the get go 30 years ago Exactly, we are trying to board a train at a station where the train tracks haven’t even been laid yet. Ultimately, climate change is a product and many businesses are bringing things to market because they can (electric cars for example) when the underlying infrastructure is no where near capable to handle it all. As you say, should have started ages ago.
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Post by Northy on Nov 24, 2022 13:17:46 GMT
One of the issues with renewable energy in the future will be balancing generation with demand. The wind doesn't blow all the time, nor does the sun shine. Demand is high in the day time and low at night. Work is being done on battery development and I expect "excess" energy will be used to generate hydrogen. There is Dinerwig hydroelectric power storage in Wales. There is a scheme being developed in Scotland, where there will be lots of excess wind power in the future to produce gravitricity: dailybusinessgroup.co.uk/2022/11/scots-energy-pioneer-helps-decarbonise-india/Before you can balance the demand, you have to have the infrastructure on shore to cope with it all. It simply isnt there..... This should have been given the get go 30 years ago The Blair and Milliband legacy, all fart and no shit.
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Post by Northy on Nov 24, 2022 13:18:37 GMT
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Post by dutchstokie on Nov 24, 2022 13:34:24 GMT
Another great initiative: Dutch company in Vianen Netherlands - plasticroad.com/en/contact/I dont know how many UK roads are being done using plastic as an alternative, but hundreds and hundreds of cycle paths and a few roads are being done in NL by this company right now.... Pretty impressive if Im honest
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