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Post by hardcastle on Mar 13, 2021 10:35:51 GMT
Yeah. Back in the 60s when l started watching football, every second player seemed to be a Jimmy or a Bobby - where are they all now?
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Post by bayernoatcake on Mar 13, 2021 11:04:06 GMT
The club is organised quite differently so, with MON at the helm, maybe Rory has a different perspective on things now An interesting comment from Tyrese in his midweek interview where he said that coming to Stoke was a no brainier- he would have the opportunity to play in different systems and positions - at Man City they play to one system ( albeit very successfully) If MON and his players really believe that we can make at least the play offs next season, we are a good prospect He persuaded Tyrese to stay ( probably his best signing to date) integrated him and Collins into the first team squad, gave them the chances to play and he has proved that they deserve to be in the starting 11 Yep but listening to our resident expert on here they were messed around and brought in too late. All the young players signed up which is credit to MON. just read the Independent article again and to be fair Rory was talking more re international football re not influencing Liam in any way but someone made a good point of how the fans would obviously take to him straight away but who knows what would influence him to join a certain club. He obviously knows Derby well He signed for us way before MON was here
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Post by onionman on Mar 13, 2021 13:27:44 GMT
His little brother is on the bench against our youths tonight ![](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EwTQAmMXMAMCNGf?format=jpg) I love these youth team sheets - some of the names are phenomenal 😀 (did my heart good to see we had a lad called ‘Ted’ playing for us) Tommy Hill sounds like a hatchet man from the 70s. “If Tommy Hill was still playing he would have eaten Vinnie Jones for breakfast.”
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Post by bayernoatcake on Mar 13, 2021 13:37:21 GMT
Delap would be mad to pick Ireland.
The pathway is tougher for England for sure but he’s about the best youth striker we have and should be making squads in the next 2/3 years all being well.
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Post by wherty on Mar 13, 2021 13:40:19 GMT
Idle journalism by connecting him with us and Derby because of Rory. If any of the 3 it'll be Bournemouth with us 3rd I'm afraid. Rory has said repeatedly they'll never work together. While we’re at it can we have a few examples of Rory’s repeated assertions they’ll “never” work together? Because he's told on numerous occasions.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Mar 13, 2021 13:42:50 GMT
While we’re at it can we have a few examples of Rory’s repeated assertions they’ll “never” work together? Because he's told on numerous occasions. I’m sure I heard/read an interview with him saying it but like the other person can’t find it anywhere.
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Post by PotterLog on Mar 13, 2021 13:53:08 GMT
While we’re at it can we have a few examples of Rory’s repeated assertions they’ll “never” work together? Because he's told on numerous occasions. You said that, I’m asking for examples. My recollection was one comment Rory made about preferring to keep his distance but no one can even find the source for that now, and I’m starting to wonder if it isn’t just a half-truth that’s been repeated often enough on here that we’ve come to accept it as gospel. If you’ve got examples of repeated and numerous assertions that they will “never work together” from Rory, let’s hear them, it would help to clear it up.
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Post by nonameface on Mar 13, 2021 14:05:38 GMT
Delap would be mad to pick Ireland. The pathway is tougher for England for sure but he’s about the best youth striker we have and should be making squads in the next 2/3 years all being well. But if he feels more Irish?
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Post by bayernoatcake on Mar 13, 2021 14:13:04 GMT
Delap would be mad to pick Ireland. The pathway is tougher for England for sure but he’s about the best youth striker we have and should be making squads in the next 2/3 years all being well. But if he feels more Irish? Then I’d be very surprised as he’s barely fucking Irish 😂
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Post by PotterLog on Mar 13, 2021 14:15:25 GMT
Even his dad’s barely Irish. Hasn’t he been with England all through the youth levels? Can’t see Ireland remotely figuring in his thinking to be honest.
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Post by banksisgod on Mar 13, 2021 14:18:52 GMT
Having a pillock like Boris running the country and destroying Britain's reputation around the world would be enough to make the Queen want to change nationality!
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Post by wherty on Mar 13, 2021 14:45:09 GMT
Because he's told on numerous occasions. You said that, I’m asking for examples. My recollection was one comment Rory made about preferring to keep his distance but no one can even find the source for that now, and I’m starting to wonder if it isn’t just a half-truth that’s been repeated often enough on here that we’ve come to accept it as gospel. If you’ve got examples of repeated and numerous assertions that they will “never work together” from Rory, let’s hear them, it would help to clear it up. Apart from recording our next conversation, how do you want me to find an example of it. I've asked him before regarding Liam coming here and a reply along the lines of " I don't think either of us would be comfortable with it tbh"
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Post by PotterLog on Mar 13, 2021 14:49:03 GMT
You said that, I’m asking for examples. My recollection was one comment Rory made about preferring to keep his distance but no one can even find the source for that now, and I’m starting to wonder if it isn’t just a half-truth that’s been repeated often enough on here that we’ve come to accept it as gospel. If you’ve got examples of repeated and numerous assertions that they will “never work together” from Rory, let’s hear them, it would help to clear it up. Apart from recording our next conversation, how do you want me to find an example of it. I've asked him before regarding Liam coming here and a reply along the lines of " I don't think either of us would be comfortable with it tbh" Fair enough! That’s all I was after
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Post by prestwichpotter on Mar 15, 2021 15:01:22 GMT
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Post by nott1 on Mar 15, 2021 15:04:23 GMT
Because he's told on numerous occasions. I’m sure I heard/read an interview with him saying it but like the other person can’t find it anywhere. So.....sod off Rory, we'll have your son instead!
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Post by Deleted on Mar 15, 2021 15:57:50 GMT
Delap would be mad to pick Ireland. The pathway is tougher for England for sure but he’s about the best youth striker we have and should be making squads in the next 2/3 years all being well. He could still pick ROI for friendlies correct, while he’s waiting? It doesn’t happen often, but I thought you had to be picked in a competitive game for you to be married to a country.
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Post by Championship Potter on Mar 15, 2021 15:58:42 GMT
Easy to get carried away with young players, but Campbell and Delap is about as good a bet for a promotion-winning forward line as any. We really should be moving heaven and earth to get him here.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 15, 2021 16:04:22 GMT
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Post by FullerMagic on Mar 15, 2021 16:05:34 GMT
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Post by FullerMagic on Mar 15, 2021 16:14:52 GMT
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Post by bayernoatcake on Mar 15, 2021 16:22:45 GMT
And played for their U18's on Friday so still eligble for them. It's crazy how good he is.
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Post by hardcastle on Mar 15, 2021 19:47:04 GMT
Even his dad’s barely Irish. Hasn’t he been with England all through the youth levels? Can’t see Ireland remotely figuring in his thinking to be honest. Rory, born in Ireland to two lrish parents, moved to Cumbria (hence the accent) as a small child. So, definately lrish. Liam can obviously choose between Dad's / Mum's nationality and his country of birth.
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Post by PotterLog on Mar 15, 2021 19:59:08 GMT
Even his dad’s barely Irish. Hasn’t he been with England all through the youth levels? Can’t see Ireland remotely figuring in his thinking to be honest. Rory, born in Ireland to two lrish parents, moved to Cumbria (hence the accent) as a small child. So, definately lrish. Liam can obviously choose between Dad's / Mum's nationality and his country of birth. Never knew Sutton Coldfield was in Ireland ![;)](//storage.proboards.com/800541/images/0m0lbCuTEBzaRn6f8QaM.gif)
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Post by mickstupp on Mar 15, 2021 21:22:08 GMT
Nobody does scapegoats quite like Stoke fans.
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Post by hardcastle on Mar 16, 2021 6:11:27 GMT
Rory, born in Ireland to two lrish parents, moved to Cumbria (hence the accent) as a small child. So, definately lrish. Liam can obviously choose between Dad's / Mum's nationality and his country of birth. Never knew Sutton Coldfield was in Ireland ![;)](//storage.proboards.com/800541/images/0m0lbCuTEBzaRn6f8QaM.gif) Oh dear. Exposed as a fraud and a charlatan. I shall, of course, offer up my 'research team's' resignations with immediate effect !
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Post by RF10 on Mar 16, 2021 8:47:59 GMT
Even his dad’s barely Irish. Hasn’t he been with England all through the youth levels? Can’t see Ireland remotely figuring in his thinking to be honest. Rory, born in Ireland to two lrish parents, moved to Cumbria (hence the accent) as a small child. So, definately lrish. Liam can obviously choose between Dad's / Mum's nationality and his country of birth. I suppose it depends how they've been bought up regarding nationalities. I have relative who was born in England has a Scottish Dad and English Mum, but he considers himself Scottish.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 16, 2021 18:26:45 GMT
Even his dad’s barely Irish. Hasn’t he been with England all through the youth levels? Can’t see Ireland remotely figuring in his thinking to be honest. Declan Rice wasn't with England all through his youth career. played for Ireland at 14. To be fair we have no idea who he will play for but you'd expect him to choose England if he believes he's good enough. Raheen Sterling doesn't have English parents and not born in England.
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Post by banksisgod on Mar 16, 2021 20:06:02 GMT
Declan Rice actually played two full international matches for Ireland before declaring for England. In fact, he was on the bench for a Euro qualifier against Georgia (I think) and, so certain was Martin O'Neill of the player's commitment to Ireland, he never thought to give him two minutes at the end when the game was petering out. Had he done so, there would have been no phone call from Southgate.
Jack Grealish's "Irishness" was so embedded that he scored a point for Warwickshire G.A.A. in the half-time entertainment for the All-Ireland Football Final of 2009.
Unquestionably, it makes more sense for players to declare for England, if only for commercial reasons. But it would be wrong to underestimate the influence of parents and grandparents in making the decision, especially if the kid has been reared in an "Irish" house. Grealish's family was gutted when he declared for England, apparently.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Mar 21, 2021 11:04:56 GMT
Playing Chelsea in the u23s. He’s already scored
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Post by Deleted on Mar 21, 2021 11:26:39 GMT
Declan Rice actually played two full international matches for Ireland before declaring for England. In fact, he was on the bench for a Euro qualifier against Georgia (I think) and, so certain was Martin O'Neill of the player's commitment to Ireland, he never thought to give him two minutes at the end when the game was petering out. Had he done so, there would have been no phone call from Southgate. Jack Grealish's "Irishness" was so embedded that he scored a point for Warwickshire G.A.A. in the half-time entertainment for the All-Ireland Football Final of 2009. Unquestionably, it makes more sense for players to declare for England, if only for commercial reasons. But it would be wrong to underestimate the influence of parents and grandparents in making the decision, especially if the kid has been reared in an "Irish" house. Grealish's family was gutted when he declared for England, apparently. You can obviously understand players playing for England or and we've just seen a player choose Germany over England which you can also understand. Harry Kane's Dad had met with Matin O'Neill and due to a Spurs injury and him scoring twice for Spurs he would have been in an Eire squad the following week not England U21. Grealish was in the Ireland set up under Noel King and had Villa team mates with him there which his Grandfather said influenced him at the time. O'Neill as said above slipped up with Declan Rice .
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