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Post by middleoftheboothen on Jul 28, 2021 0:37:58 GMT
Said on here the other week he wasn’t coming Stoke Broken clocks being right twice a day and all that. |
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Post by PotterLog on Jul 28, 2021 2:01:31 GMT
If we were to lose out on signing Delap I'd much prefer it being to a foreign team. Would be painful seeing he play & shine for any of the Champo teams that have been linked to him & score a shed load whilst propelling a team up the league. Course I'd like him come to Stoke as really do rate him, but going abroad I could cope with. For purely sentimental reasons I’d like to see him become a proper top class player as well. As much as I’d cream myself silly if he came here because he’s got so much potential, there’s every chance it would work out a terrible move for him development-wise. |
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Post by Veritas on Jul 28, 2021 6:40:04 GMT
If we were to lose out on signing Delap I'd much prefer it being to a foreign team. Would be painful seeing he play & shine for any of the Champo teams that have been linked to him & score a shed load whilst propelling a team up the league. Course I'd like him come to Stoke as really do rate him, but going abroad I could cope with. For us to "lose out" we would have needed to be in frame to sign him in the first place, all I have seen is wishful thinking on a fanzine site. |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jul 28, 2021 6:50:47 GMT
If we were to lose out on signing Delap I'd much prefer it being to a foreign team. Would be painful seeing he play & shine for any of the Champo teams that have been linked to him & score a shed load whilst propelling a team up the league. Course I'd like him come to Stoke as really do rate him, but going abroad I could cope with. For us to "lose out" we would have needed to be in frame to sign him in the first place, all I have seen is wishful thinking on a fanzine site. I mean what you’ve seen is discussion about football. And missed quite a few links in the press as they happened too from the sound of it. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 28, 2021 7:46:59 GMT
If we were to lose out on signing Delap I'd much prefer it being to a foreign team. Would be painful seeing he play & shine for any of the Champo teams that have been linked to him & score a shed load whilst propelling a team up the league. Course I'd like him come to Stoke as really do rate him, but going abroad I could cope with. For us to "lose out" we would have needed to be in frame to sign him in the first place, all I have seen is wishful thinking on a fanzine site. So, shall we pretend this ship isn't sinking? |
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Post by Veritas on Jul 28, 2021 9:22:56 GMT
For us to "lose out" we would have needed to be in frame to sign him in the first place, all I have seen is wishful thinking on a fanzine site. So, shall we pretend this ship isn't sinking? ? |
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Post by FullerMagic on Jul 28, 2021 9:58:51 GMT
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Post by nott1 on Jul 28, 2021 10:22:37 GMT
Doesn't sound like he cares.....have they had a row? |
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Post by simonh3709 on Jul 28, 2021 10:36:03 GMT
I think Rory is in a difficult position. Both he and his son have different employers who will have different priorities and objectives.
This is a decision with potentially multi million pound implications and to be fair it's not upto Rory.
From my experience of dealing with succesful young people in sport or entertainment they have to grow up fast.
Liam will already for good or bad have this own ideas and support team.
We'll just have to wait and see.....
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Jul 28, 2021 10:40:47 GMT
Doesn't sound like he cares.....have they had a row? He's just sensibly letting his son be his own man and make his own way in the game. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 28, 2021 10:42:17 GMT
So, shall we pretend this ship isn't sinking? ? If we don't sign him, I'll get over him, I know I will. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 28, 2021 11:01:33 GMT
The anti Paul Ince. Bet he's a great dad Rory, I hope so anyways! I definitely romanticise the players from that 2008/9 period. |
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Post by bertiestan on Jul 28, 2021 14:09:52 GMT
Said on here the other week he wasn’t coming Stoke A quite a few did tbf🙄 |
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Post by Lakeland Potter on Jul 28, 2021 14:39:17 GMT
Doesn't sound like he cares.....have they had a row? He's just sensibly letting his son be his own man and make his own way in the game. Agreed. I'd much rather see Rory's attitude towards letting his son make his own decisions than Paul Ince's attitude a few years back towards his son. I suspect that Tom's unfulfilled promise may, in part, be down to his father's attempts to steer his early career. In any walk of life parents should support their children's career choices rather than attempt to control them. EDIT: I typed this before I spotted webby's comments which, obviously, I agree with. |
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Post by Laughing Gravy on Jul 28, 2021 14:45:53 GMT
I thought he'd signed for Preston.
Hasn't Tony Scholes told his nomark nephew off their message board.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 28, 2021 14:48:10 GMT
Said on here the other week he wasn’t coming Stoke A quite a few did tbf🙄  Are you suggesting was a wild guess? |
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Post by shakermaker on Jul 28, 2021 15:01:02 GMT
I think Rory is in a difficult position. Both he and his son have different employers who will have different priorities and objectives.This is a decision with potentially multi million pound implications and to be fair it's not upto Rory.From my experience of dealing with succesful young people in sport or entertainment they have to grow up fast. Liam will already for good or bad have this own ideas and support team. We'll just have to wait and see..... That may be so, but at the end of the day Rory will want what's best for his son... whether that is at City, Stoke, or elsewhere. I have no doubt that Rory being on Stoke's payroll has no influence whatsoever on whether Liam comes here. As a father, if Rory genuinely thinks a loan to Anderlecht or another Championship side is better for his son's development than Stoke, he will have privately said so to Liam. |
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Post by tomcmod on Jul 28, 2021 16:15:05 GMT
Isn't this just Rory's way of saying him signing for Stoke was down to O'Neill, Citeh and Liam and not himself? |
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Post by SamB_SCFC on Jul 28, 2021 19:00:04 GMT
Isn't this just Rory's way of saying him signing for Stoke was down to O'Neill, Citeh and Liam and not himself? Basically this. Just a neutral statement that means if he does sign for Stoke, people can't say it was because of Rory. And if he goes elsewhere, he doesn't have the embarrassment of having publicly lobbied for him to come here only for his own son to reject him. |
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Post by a on Jul 28, 2021 19:02:13 GMT
Said on here the other week he wasn’t coming Stoke Has he been confirmed elsewhere? Also there are lots more other options than just Stoke so I wouldn’t see your guess as anything special 😂 |
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Post by J-Roar on Jul 28, 2021 19:17:32 GMT
Said on here the other week he wasn’t coming Stoke While we're at it, I can confirm that Mason Greenwood won't be joining us this window. |
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Post by PotterLog on Jul 29, 2021 2:04:51 GMT
He's just sensibly letting his son be his own man and make his own way in the game. Agreed. I'd much rather see Rory's attitude towards letting his son make his own decisions than Paul Ince's attitude a few years back towards his son. I suspect that Tom's unfulfilled promise may, in part, be down to his father's attempts to steer his early career. In any walk of life parents should support their children's career choices rather than attempt to control them. EDIT: I typed this before I spotted webby's comments which, obviously, I agree with. I’ve always had the feeling Tom was an athletic kid who would have preferred a different sport were it not for his hectoring father |
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Post by callas12 on Jul 29, 2021 8:21:53 GMT
Agreed. I'd much rather see Rory's attitude towards letting his son make his own decisions than Paul Ince's attitude a few years back towards his son. I suspect that Tom's unfulfilled promise may, in part, be down to his father's attempts to steer his early career. In any walk of life parents should support their children's career choices rather than attempt to control them. EDIT: I typed this before I spotted webby's comments which, obviously, I agree with. I’ve always had the feeling Tom was an athletic kid who would have preferred a different sport were it not for his hectoring father I agree. Tom seems like he's been schooled & channelled into football & felt the need to follow closely in his dads footsteps & remained in his shadow for far to long, rather than make his own tracks & create his own ways in the game if indeed as you allude to he even chose football as a career to do. He just never appears happy nor looks as though he's enjoying being a footballer. Maybe wrong & it's just a assumption but he appears to be the kind of player who keeps himself to himself & doesn't mix all that well either. For someone who clearly has talent (we definitely haven't seen it enough) & earns a good living from the trappings being a footballer brings Ince definitely seems like he's always just simply going through the motions. The fact he's never really made a name for himself or flourished at any of the clubs he's been at seems to back this theory up. |
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Post by Marc01 on Jul 29, 2021 8:39:58 GMT
I’ve always had the feeling Tom was an athletic kid who would have preferred a different sport were it not for his hectoring father I agree. Tom seems like he's been schooled & channelled into football & felt the need to follow closely in his dads footsteps & remained in his shadow for far to long, rather than make his own tracks & create his own ways in the game if indeed as you allude to he even chose football as a career to do. He just never appears happy nor looks as though he's enjoying being a footballer. Maybe wrong & it's just a assumption but he appears to be the kind of player who keeps himself to himself & doesn't mix all that well either. For someone who clearly has talent (we definitely haven't seen it enough) & earns a good living from the trappings being a footballer brings Ince definitely seems like he's always just simply going through the motions. The fact he's never really made a name for himself or flourished at any of the clubs he's been at seems to back this theory up. For the vast majority of his time at Stoke he most definitely has appeared to be going through the motions. I hadn’t followed his career closely when he arrived here but stumbled across this footage some time back. It shows plenty of ability, a willingness to take players on (which has seemed alien to him here) and enjoyment of the game. That ability resulted in a move to Huddersfield, though he seems to lost his hunger since then…. |
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Post by shakermaker on Jul 29, 2021 11:47:14 GMT
I’ve always had the feeling Tom was an athletic kid who would have preferred a different sport were it not for his hectoring father I agree. Tom seems like he's been schooled & channelled into football & felt the need to follow closely in his dads footsteps & remained in his shadow for far to long, rather than make his own tracks & create his own ways in the game if indeed as you allude to he even chose football as a career to do. He just never appears happy nor looks as though he's enjoying being a footballer. Maybe wrong & it's just a assumption but he appears to be the kind of player who keeps himself to himself & doesn't mix all that well either. For someone who clearly has talent (we definitely haven't seen it enough) & earns a good living from the trappings being a footballer brings Ince definitely seems like he's always just simply going through the motions. T he fact he's never really made a name for himself or flourished at any of the clubs he's been at seems to back this theory up. That's just plain wrong. He was the best player in the 12/13 Championship season while at Blackpool, and he was also very successful at Derby. He wasn't a raving success at Huddersfield, though he was a first-team regular that first season they managed to stay up in the Premier League. Just like Vokes though, we have been lumbered with an imposter of the pacy, skilful player Tom used to be. |
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Post by onefatcopper on Jul 29, 2021 12:11:57 GMT
I agree. Tom seems like he's been schooled & channelled into football & felt the need to follow closely in his dads footsteps & remained in his shadow for far to long, rather than make his own tracks & create his own ways in the game if indeed as you allude to he even chose football as a career to do. He just never appears happy nor looks as though he's enjoying being a footballer. Maybe wrong & it's just a assumption but he appears to be the kind of player who keeps himself to himself & doesn't mix all that well either. For someone who clearly has talent (we definitely haven't seen it enough) & earns a good living from the trappings being a footballer brings Ince definitely seems like he's always just simply going through the motions. T he fact he's never really made a name for himself or flourished at any of the clubs he's been at seems to back this theory up. That's just plain wrong. He was the best player in the 12/13 Championship season while at Blackpool, and he was also very successful at Derby. He wasn't a raving success at Huddersfield, though he was a first-team regular that first season they managed to stay up in the Premier League. Just like Vokes though, we have been lumbered with an imposter of the pacy, skilful player Tom used to be. Ince just like Vokes, Allen, McClean, etc, etc are all imposters, wouldn’t you seem like a nice bloke when all of is asked of you is to turn up at a luxury health spa at mid morning a few days a week to have a kick around with your mates ? all this whilst you are in the knowledge that your bank account is growing beyond your wildest dreams ! These players are liars ! They are liars to themselves their employers and most importantly the public who contribute with their hard earned cash to keep them in their lavish lifestyles. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 29, 2021 12:25:04 GMT
Having read what Rory has said, I think if we weren't trying to get Liam here he would have discounted it
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Post by FullerMagic on Jul 29, 2021 13:07:38 GMT
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Post by LGH87 on Jul 29, 2021 13:14:22 GMT
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Post by GeneralFaye on Jul 29, 2021 13:18:13 GMT
Delap and Davis?... do we think that'll happen?
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