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Post by Deleted on May 30, 2021 7:09:03 GMT
What a waste. Under NJ he was head an shoulders our most talented player. Turkey 1st division is not a waste.
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Post by GreaterGlasgowstokie on May 30, 2021 7:43:44 GMT
What a waste. Under NJ he was head an shoulders our most talented player. Turkey 1st division is not a waste. It is though
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Post by Deleted on May 30, 2021 8:17:30 GMT
Turkey 1st division is not a waste. It is though It's a misconception that people in the uk frequently have about other nations' top class. It keeps attracting international stars.
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Post by Scrotnig on May 30, 2021 8:26:55 GMT
It's a waste for us, rather than him.
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Post by lordb on May 30, 2021 8:28:58 GMT
It's a misconception that people in the uk frequently have about other nations' top class. It keeps attracting international stars. It's nowhere near the standard of the Premier League or any of the other main leagues in Europe which is where Badou could have been playing, in that sense it's a waste
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Post by robwahlmann on May 30, 2021 8:34:26 GMT
It's a misconception that people in the uk frequently have about other nations' top class. It keeps attracting international stars. It's nowhere near the standard of the Premier League or any of the other main leagues in Europe which is where Badou could have been playing, in that sense it's a waste He did turn down an offer from Sheffield United, didn't he?
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Post by clarkeda on May 30, 2021 8:50:42 GMT
It's a waste for us, rather than him. Exactly.
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Post by Squeekster on May 30, 2021 8:54:47 GMT
This means we get a fee don't we? Don't we still hold his registration in case he wanted to leave the Saudi club and the way I read it was we can still command a fee?
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Post by biglad180 on May 30, 2021 9:04:25 GMT
going off the Badou thing i see Galatasary have offered 10 million for a sheffield utd player. thought the turkish clubs are skint? they have been having our pants down with Etebo and Badou.the last few seasons
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Post by Deleted on May 30, 2021 11:07:44 GMT
It's a misconception that people in the uk frequently have about other nations' top class. It keeps attracting international stars. It's nowhere near the standard of the Premier League or any of the other main leagues in Europe which is where Badou could have been playing, in that sense it's a waste With the exceeption of one English club in rapid decline, no other club in the PL or the other main leagues ever made any serious bids for him at any time in his career. He might have been on their radar, but his age and his career choices probably got in the way. I liked him a lot and wish he had stayed, and actually agree that his career hasn't been what it could have been, but I don't agree that his specific move to a Turkish team is a further step down; in fact it's a step up from where he was before. And while playing there there is always a chance that one of the major Turkish clubs that play in the Champions League and had him in their squad before will be reminded of his potential and may make moves to bring him back in the next window or in the summer. Presumably his wage demands will be slightly more reasonable now/2022. He can no longer milk our cash cow but he's done enough there to get good wages. As I state earlier in the thread, at this point it's no longer about career ambitions, it's all about bringing enough money back to take care of his family, his own and his extended.
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Post by lordb on May 30, 2021 11:59:25 GMT
It's nowhere near the standard of the Premier League or any of the other main leagues in Europe which is where Badou could have been playing, in that sense it's a waste With the exceeption of one English club in rapid decline, no other club in the PL or the other main leagues ever made any serious bids for him at any time in his career. He might have been on their radar, but his age and his career choices probably got in the way. I liked him a lot and wish he had stayed, and actually agree that his career hasn't been what it could have been, but I don't agree that his specific move to a Turkish team is a further step down; in fact it's a step up from where he was before. And while playing there there is always a chance that one of the major Turkish clubs that play in the Champions League and had him in their squad before will be reminded of his potential and may make moves to bring him back in the next window or in the summer. Presumably his wage demands will be slightly more reasonable now/2022. He can no longer milk our cash cow but he's done enough there to get good wages. As I state earlier in the thread, at this point it's no longer about career ambitions, it's all about bringing enough money back to take care of his family, his own and his extended. Sheffield United wanted him so that's two clubs He turned them,and their Premier League size contract, down which was curious if he was by then solely interested in making the most money. Maybe he just didn't like England.
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Post by Deleted on May 30, 2021 12:20:38 GMT
With the exceeption of one English club in rapid decline, no other club in the PL or the other main leagues ever made any serious bids for him at any time in his career. He might have been on their radar, but his age and his career choices probably got in the way. I liked him a lot and wish he had stayed, and actually agree that his career hasn't been what it could have been, but I don't agree that his specific move to a Turkish team is a further step down; in fact it's a step up from where he was before. And while playing there there is always a chance that one of the major Turkish clubs that play in the Champions League and had him in their squad before will be reminded of his potential and may make moves to bring him back in the next window or in the summer. Presumably his wage demands will be slightly more reasonable now/2022. He can no longer milk our cash cow but he's done enough there to get good wages. As I state earlier in the thread, at this point it's no longer about career ambitions, it's all about bringing enough money back to take care of his family, his own and his extended. Sheffield United wanted him so that's two clubs He turned them,and their Premier League size contract, down which was curious if he was by then solely interested in making the most money. Maybe he just didn't like England. You're talking about some years back. I'm talking about the present. Do you not know the difference? He was motivated by the hope that he would play in the Champions League year in year out. It never really worked out that way, and, as he's getting on, he's had to settle for realistic ambitions. Perhaps you've never gone hungry in your life and so for you making enough money to be the longtime breadwinner for the family in Senegal simply become a matter of "making the most money"...
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Post by Northy on May 30, 2021 12:25:42 GMT
I just put kralspor fc into Google maps and it went to Anfield Any idea what part of Turkey they are ?
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Post by FullerMagic on May 30, 2021 12:29:48 GMT
I just put kralspor fc into Google maps and it went to Anfield Any idea what part of Turkey they are ? en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adana_DemirsporThink this is the team he's supposedly joining. Looks to be in the south of Turkey
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Post by clarkeda on May 30, 2021 13:15:19 GMT
What a waste. Under NJ he was head an shoulders our most talented player. Turkey 1st division is not a waste. I mean waste by us. £14m and still a good player.
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Post by lordb on May 30, 2021 13:18:49 GMT
Sheffield United wanted him so that's two clubs He turned them,and their Premier League size contract, down which was curious if he was by then solely interested in making the most money. Maybe he just didn't like England. You're talking about some years back. I'm talking about the present. Do you not know the difference? He was motivated by the hope that he would play in the Champions League year in year out. It never really worked out that way, and, as he's getting on, he's had to settle for realistic ambitions. Perhaps you've never gone hungry in your life and so for you making enough money to be the longtime breadwinner for the family in Senegal simply become a matter of "making the most money"... I know poverty, I'm not criticising the player for following the money but I am questioning your argument that that's entirely what he's being doing all this time. A better agent would have got him better clubs than he's had lately
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Post by Deleted on May 30, 2021 14:07:27 GMT
You're talking about some years back. I'm talking about the present. Do you not know the difference? He was motivated by the hope that he would play in the Champions League year in year out. It never really worked out that way, and, as he's getting on, he's had to settle for realistic ambitions. Perhaps you've never gone hungry in your life and so for you making enough money to be the longtime breadwinner for the family in Senegal simply become a matter of "making the most money"... I know poverty, I'm not criticising the player for following the money but I am questioning your argument that that's entirely what he's being doing all this time. A better agent would have got him better clubs than he's had lately I have at no point stated "that's entirely what he's been doing all this time." In fact I've said the exact opposite.
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Post by AlbertTatlock on May 30, 2021 20:20:24 GMT
This thread keeps coming to the top but all we need to know is if the waste of space has left Stoke. Well it appears he has. This thread should now be locked and let to disappear into obscurity. Gouranga.
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Post by prestwichpotter on May 30, 2021 20:22:24 GMT
Another waster off the books. Baby steps.....
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Post by nott1 on May 31, 2021 13:26:49 GMT
Another waster off the books. Baby steps..... y Does this mean Brownie points for Tony Scoles? Nobody has mentioned his part in getting him off the wage bill!
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Post by bayernoatcake on May 31, 2021 13:42:55 GMT
Has he officially left?
It’s not very clear what’s going on with him.
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Post by thestatusquo on May 31, 2021 15:24:07 GMT
Fuck off Ndiaye 🤪
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Post by FullerMagic on Jun 2, 2021 16:11:38 GMT
Adana Demirspor interviewed Badou Ndiaye and his agent. There are small differences in numbers between the parties. If an agreement is reached, Adana Demirspor will sign Ndiaye on a 3-year contract.
I expect a positive or negative resolution tomorrow
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Post by Caerwrangonpotter on Jun 2, 2021 16:15:15 GMT
Just be gone with you please!
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Post by Royal Donut on Jun 2, 2021 22:33:18 GMT
Another waster off the books. Baby steps..... y Does this mean Brownie points for Tony Scoles? Nobody has mentioned his part in getting him off the wage bill! Unfortunately he was the one that got him here, how we got so many players that didn't give a f# k is beyond me.
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Post by Squeekster on Jun 3, 2021 14:43:34 GMT
y Does this mean Brownie points for Tony Scoles? Nobody has mentioned his part in getting him off the wage bill! Unfortunately he was the one that got him here, how we got so many players that didn't give a f# k is beyond me. Because previous managers wanted them.
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Post by Royal Donut on Jun 3, 2021 23:35:22 GMT
Unfortunately he was the one that got him here, how we got so many players that didn't give a f# k is beyond me. Because previous managers wanted them. I wish I could agree, how many players have we signed when we didn't have a manager or said we have been looking at this player for months and the manager joined a week ago. Maybe multiple manager's wanted the same player could be a reason, when this player ends up crap it makes me believe once again not picked by the manager. Also since manager's come and go and is the cheapest way for change, maybe the person signing this players for stupid fees is to blame, for example Wimmer, signed by spurs 3 years pervious hardley played cost roughly 6 million he's trebled his value, which is crazy, and if it isn't putting him on a 5 year contract is. If spurs could take back the 6million they payed for him they would have, instead we offer 18.
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Post by Squeekster on Jun 4, 2021 6:31:44 GMT
Because previous managers wanted them. I wish I could agree, how many players have we signed when we didn't have a manager or said we have been looking at this player for months and the manager joined a week ago. Maybe multiple manager's wanted the same player could be a reason, when this player ends up crap it makes me believe once again not picked by the manager. Also since manager's come and go and is the cheapest way for change, maybe the person signing this players for stupid fees is to blame, for example Wimmer, signed by spurs 3 years pervious hardley played cost roughly 6 million he's trebled his value, which is crazy, and if it isn't putting him on a 5 year contract is. If spurs could take back the 6million they payed for him they would have, instead we offer 18. All the dead wood in this squad was signed by previous managers that is a fact with the exception of Bauer, haven't got a clue who signed him, it's irrelevant how much a club paid for a player before he joined us every single club will have signed players and made profits and losses on them.
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Post by doitforfrank on Jun 4, 2021 8:10:22 GMT
I wish I could agree, how many players have we signed when we didn't have a manager or said we have been looking at this player for months and the manager joined a week ago. Maybe multiple manager's wanted the same player could be a reason, when this player ends up crap it makes me believe once again not picked by the manager. Also since manager's come and go and is the cheapest way for change, maybe the person signing this players for stupid fees is to blame, for example Wimmer, signed by spurs 3 years pervious hardley played cost roughly 6 million he's trebled his value, which is crazy, and if it isn't putting him on a 5 year contract is. If spurs could take back the 6million they payed for him they would have, instead we offer 18. All the dead wood in this squad was signed by previous managers that is a fact with the exception of Bauer, haven't got a clue who signed him, it's irrelevant how much a club paid for a player before he joined us every single club will have signed players and made profits and losses on them. Just the idea that any player was signed without consent of the manager should set alarm bells ringing, as IF true, how many more were decided on by other parties? I dont have a problem with a Director of football making signings as they do at a lot of foreign clubs, as they tend to be the head of a clubs football culture. But if we have anyone at Stoke who is doing that job, and their experience is in business and not football it may go some way to explain the amount of poor signings. I always thought the signings of Vokes and Baath strange, as when he signed NJ said he was going to play high energy football with young athletic players, who of course Vokes and Baath very much arent. Strange now that NJ has done exactly that again at Luton. Maybe he didnt fit here, it was too big for him etc. but maybe, just maybe he didnt control the squad, and was just given had an absolute shitshow to work with.
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Post by Royal Donut on Jun 4, 2021 9:25:14 GMT
I wish I could agree, how many players have we signed when we didn't have a manager or said we have been looking at this player for months and the manager joined a week ago. Maybe multiple manager's wanted the same player could be a reason, when this player ends up crap it makes me believe once again not picked by the manager. Also since manager's come and go and is the cheapest way for change, maybe the person signing this players for stupid fees is to blame, for example Wimmer, signed by spurs 3 years pervious hardley played cost roughly 6 million he's trebled his value, which is crazy, and if it isn't putting him on a 5 year contract is. If spurs could take back the 6million they payed for him they would have, instead we offer 18. All the dead wood in this squad was signed by previous managers that is a fact with the exception of Bauer, haven't got a clue who signed him, it's irrelevant how much a club paid for a player before he joined us every single club will have signed players and made profits and losses on them. I would say it's relevant, it's a very good warning sign, three times the value and turns out to be horrendous. I'll tell you now no one else would buy him. Anyway this is one player, anyone can make a mistake, unfortunately we have a squad of them, and there's one common factor. The manager's changes yet still the same mistakes. Yes every club makes losses and profits, and once again unfortunately we are in the same category as Sunderland or a Portsmouth and we are so lucky we aren't with them.
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