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Post by bayernoatcake on Jun 5, 2019 19:19:00 GMT
Not necessarily. I just hope he doesn’t sign. Same as Shaq having a good season in a relegated Stoke side.... I think I've made abundantly clear that I don't really care how he may have played and how he might play if it means Collins doesn't
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Post by FullerMagic on Jun 5, 2019 19:22:17 GMT
Is there still real interest in Gayle? Won’t he be suspended first few games? Think he's just banned for the opening game of the season
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Post by Deleted on Jun 5, 2019 19:22:47 GMT
Squad game
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Post by Davef on Jun 5, 2019 19:24:41 GMT
Won’t he be suspended first few games? Think he's just banned for the opening game of the season Im pretty sure he had a one match ban which was the second leg of the semi. He'd have been available for the final had the Baggies got through, so he'll be available for the start of the season. Not that it matters to us.
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Post by FullerMagic on Jun 5, 2019 19:27:36 GMT
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Post by FullerMagic on Jun 5, 2019 19:29:20 GMT
Any information about Pennington from the Stoke Analytics page? The comments about him being one of the highest interceptors in the league etc suggest he might be a analytical target. No, he hasn't posted anything. Did notice this interesting chart on aerial dominance of centre-backs though. Batth shows up well as you'd expect. And Shawcross is fine. Pennington, not so much.
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Post by FullerMagic on Jun 5, 2019 19:31:40 GMT
And the same bloke did one on aerial dominance of C'ship strikers - and Vokes is colossal.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 5, 2019 19:32:30 GMT
Any information about Pennington from the Stoke Analytics page? The comments about him being one of the highest interceptors in the league etc suggest he might be a analytical target. No, he hasn't posted anything. Did notice this interesting chart on aerial dominance of centre-backs though. Batth shows up well as you'd expect. And Shawcross is fine. Pennington, not so much. twitter.com/rramesssVery interesting stats for Matt Miazga. Absolute beast.
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Post by FullerMagic on Jun 5, 2019 19:34:07 GMT
No, he hasn't posted anything. Did notice this interesting chart on aerial dominance of centre-backs though. Batth shows up well as you'd expect. And Shawcross is fine. Pennington, not so much. twitter.com/rramesssVery interesting stats for Matt Miazga. Absolute beast. Yeah, surprised me.
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Post by tony1234 on Jun 5, 2019 19:36:51 GMT
Exactly, and he did it well. Performing well in a poor side shows you have the potential to be even better with more quality players. Not saying our players are quality, but NJ is building that this summer and Pennington will be very good for us. I hope they can rotate him with Collins though, if we keep him. It’s interceptions per “opportunities for interceptions” that count - bit like a keeper would be judged on “saves per shot”; a striker on “goals per chance”. Ultimately, he can also be judged through the eyes of the multiple clubs that have used his services, of which none appear to want to keep him.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jun 5, 2019 19:40:06 GMT
And the same bloke did one on aerial dominance of C'ship strikers - and Vokes is colossal. I still want Stoke give me a Semi tbh.......
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Post by Deleted on Jun 5, 2019 19:42:16 GMT
And the same bloke did one on aerial dominance of C'ship strikers - and Vokes is colossal. Teemu Pukki, not aerially dominant in the air at all. Scores 29 goals - 1 a header against us! FFS!
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Post by Davef on Jun 5, 2019 19:42:35 GMT
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jun 5, 2019 19:50:57 GMT
And the same bloke did one on aerial dominance of C'ship strikers - and Vokes is colossal. Teemu Pukki, not aerially dominant in the air at all. Scores 29 goals - 1 a header against us! FFS! What's happens with Dracula in goal!
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Post by stokeykez on Jun 5, 2019 20:54:28 GMT
Any updates chopper, what's the hold up with the players, are they still be on their hols
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Post by pottersrule on Jun 5, 2019 20:58:10 GMT
It is, but 4th choice CBs don't routinely get 10+ games, do they? It's not as if Shawcross was falling to pieces last season. There's only been one season since 13-14 when he's played more minutes. I could see Collins getting 10+ games easily,with cup games and our fitness issues.
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Post by adi on Jun 5, 2019 22:46:25 GMT
Same as Shaq having a good season in a relegated Stoke side.... I think I've made abundantly clear that I don't really care how he may have played and how he might play if it means Collins doesn't I’d love Collins to get a run in the team too, I was just saying a good player in a poor team can still be a good player. I’m sure you’ve said and I agree that as long as Ryan stays fit and possibly keeping Bruno, we have more pressing issues than CB.
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Post by shakermaker on Jun 5, 2019 23:45:38 GMT
No, he hasn't posted anything. Did notice this interesting chart on aerial dominance of centre-backs though. Batth shows up well as you'd expect. And Shawcross is fine. Pennington, not so much. twitter.com/rramesssVery interesting stats for Matt Miazga. Absolute beast. Yet Pennington still averages more Aerial Duels won than Miazga - 4.6 per game to Miazga's 4.3. This table is showing aerial duels won in and around the penalty area, which Miazga clearly excels at. Pennington is still very good in the penalty area but overall (i.e. including in open play), he appears to be better at winning headers from oncoming forwards or midfielders.
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Post by kustokie on Jun 6, 2019 0:14:28 GMT
I think I've made abundantly clear that I don't really care how he may have played and how he might play if it means Collins doesn't I’d love Collins to get a run in the team too, I was just saying a good player in a poor team can still be a good player. I’m sure you’ve said and I agree that as long as Ryan stays fit and possibly keeping Bruno, we have more pressing issues than CB. Are there any areas where we don’t have pressing issues? In my opinion we need a complete makeover, including the board. This is 3-5 year project.
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Post by kustokie on Jun 6, 2019 0:20:06 GMT
Same as Shaq having a good season in a relegated Stoke side.... I think I've made abundantly clear that I don't really care how he may have played and how he might play if it means Collins doesn't Hey Bayern. I really enjoy your posts because you really know your stuff. However, you sometimes make it abundantly clear that you sometimes come across as a pompous prick. Try a little humility. It’s only a bloody bulletin board.
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Post by potterpaul on Jun 6, 2019 3:10:32 GMT
Are we linked with a number of centre backs to play the diamond 442.since the shape becomes 3-5-2 on the attack. When a Full back moves forward with the ball. Then 3 CBs ready for any counter attack. With Pennington breaking up play. His ability to take the ball forward. With Collins shawcross Batth or since linked eg jagelka protecting the net. I can see why the madness of plenty of CBs. The way you have explained it makes it impossible to start with a diamond 442. If you have the 3 players you state it will be a back 3 or 5.
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Post by adi on Jun 6, 2019 6:31:33 GMT
I’d love Collins to get a run in the team too, I was just saying a good player in a poor team can still be a good player. I’m sure you’ve said and I agree that as long as Ryan stays fit and possibly keeping Bruno, we have more pressing issues than CB. Are there any areas where we don’t have pressing issues? In my opinion we need a complete makeover, including the board. This is 3-5 year project. Midfield isn’t too bad but Yea I guess a rebuild would be most welcome especially with several players bring bombed out!
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Post by kelw on Jun 6, 2019 6:36:58 GMT
I remember plenty on here laughing when Soton paid 10 million for Van Dijk so maybe we should reserve our judgement a little
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Post by stokeykez on Jun 6, 2019 7:03:02 GMT
I remember plenty on here laughing when Soton paid 10 million for Van Dijk so maybe we should reserve our judgement a little Exactly, too many arm chair managers on here. Can you imagine if van dijk had of come to stoke , he would be worth at least 5 million now.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jun 6, 2019 7:20:41 GMT
Same agent as Vokes.
The pizza is strong in this one.
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Post by Gary Hackett on Jun 6, 2019 8:16:34 GMT
Same agent as Vokes. The pizza is strong in this one. Blue cheese instead of Mozzarella?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 6, 2019 9:09:14 GMT
I remember plenty on here laughing when Soton paid 10 million for Van Dijk so maybe we should reserve our judgement a little Exactly, too many arm chair managers on here. Can you imagine if van dijk had of come to stoke , he would be worth at least 5 million now. *Football fans discussing and sharing an opinion on a transfer SHOCKER!*
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Post by jimmygscfc on Jun 6, 2019 9:14:31 GMT
Same agent as Vokes. The pizza is strong in this one. Blue cheese instead of Mozzarella? It's all about the base, Hackett, or at least that's what I think Bayern is trying to suggest
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Post by kelw on Jun 6, 2019 9:53:25 GMT
Exactly, too many arm chair managers on here. Can you imagine if van dijk had of come to stoke , he would be worth at least 5 million now. *Football fans discussing and sharing an opinion on a transfer SHOCKER!* Football fans slagging a player they've never heard of until now maybe a better description
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Post by Deleted on Jun 6, 2019 11:26:35 GMT
*Football fans discussing and sharing an opinion on a transfer SHOCKER!* Football fans slagging a player they've never heard of until now maybe a better description Oh absolutely, for some it seems that slagging off the club and potential players is a favourite pastime! I was referring more to the idea that people discussing a player’s transfer (in this case, van Dijk) was tantamount to being a wannabe ‘armchair’ manager. If posters didn’t talk about players, transfers and managers then this board - like all other fan forums - would die a death. The overwhelming majority of people are just passing comment and sharing a view without necessarily being wedded to it; we ‘armchair managers’ are just like the real ones, we’ll get it right sometimes and get it horribly wrong others. The key thing is to not take it all so ruddy seriously, which, unfortunately, seems beyond some posters on here. There is way more to life than whether Matty Pennington signs for SCFC or whether someone thinks it’s a shrewd, shit or unnecessary signing.
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