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Post by felonious on May 25, 2019 17:45:55 GMT
I've got no real problem with the candidate being chosen that way but they must go to the country at the very earliest opportunity. Every candidate who has been asked so far has said they will not do so, so we are in the hands of a bunch of reactionary blue rinse loons who drive to Dover at the weekends to shake their fists at the continent. More left wing clap trap, when you don't agree resort to slander. At least everyone can see he's stupid.
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Post by bigjohnritchie on May 25, 2019 17:55:41 GMT
NOT another woman. Don't care if that sounds sexist. I think that Priti Patel is vastly underated ( in one sense). I'd go for Baker as in my opinion the most trustworthy, because I think that is what it is about now. Whoever is chosen ( not really elected) they need to make clear what their so called red lines are in any deal that they propose ( Cameron made them clear pre Referendum). Also people like Mogg, Baker and Mcvoy should be included in the team. Also they need to show that they are a bit different from what has gone before..,..I think on day one the leader should invite Tice, Farage and people like Gisela Stuart ( might even stretch it to Galloway, Field and Skinner on this single issue) a meeting to form a Brexit implementation group.... talking to the actual people who know what they are talking about to get proper BREXIT sorted do that the country can deal with all the other issues facing the country.
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Post by bigjohnritchie on May 25, 2019 19:01:29 GMT
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Post by crapslinger on May 25, 2019 19:07:19 GMT
Can't stand most of the tory candidates but I wouldn't mind getting behind her at all.
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Post by trickydicky73 on May 25, 2019 19:32:34 GMT
Can't stand most of the tory candidates but I wouldn't mind getting behind her at all. I'd erect a hard border for her.
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Post by crapslinger on May 25, 2019 19:58:58 GMT
Can't stand most of the tory candidates but I wouldn't mind getting behind her at all. I'd erect a hard border for her. I bet she would insist on a backstop
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Post by themistocles on May 25, 2019 21:10:21 GMT
Sneeky suspicion it'll be Penny Mordaunt
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Post by claytonscrubs on May 25, 2019 22:11:58 GMT
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Post by bathstoke on May 25, 2019 22:23:43 GMT
T!ts
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Post by auntiegeorge on May 26, 2019 5:57:27 GMT
Here we go again. You would think the Tories would have learned from the past, but no. The infighting is beginning all over again, much to the nation's disbelief. Their treachery to one other seems to know no bounds and will surely consign the party to oblivion. Why they are so intent on self-destruction baffles me. Fortunately Sir Nigel is waiting in the wings ready to take advantage.
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Post by Deleted on May 26, 2019 8:47:06 GMT
I'd be chuffed with: Gove, Ether Mcvey, Steve Baker. I could tolerate a JRMogg, Boris type so long as they actually deliver full metal brexit. Gove? Fuck off. Yep. He's been fucking fantastic at DEFRA pulled in policy from across all wings of the spectrum and passed I think the 2nd/3rd(?) highest amount of bills of any Gov dept. I'm willing to bet you don't like who he is not what he does though. Which is fair enough but I wouldn't agree.
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Post by questionable on May 26, 2019 9:09:48 GMT
I think tonight’s results will be an indicator, as if expected Farage steams all parties aside the Conservatives will want a strong Brexiteer such as Boris to leave the EU, lets face it the slimey Tory MP’s will want to protect their livelihoods and egos.
Not a chance they’ll elect a female at this time.
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Post by lawrieleslie on May 26, 2019 10:03:28 GMT
This is not going to end well. You can call them Bexitiers, you can call them Remainers, but by the hands of an in house fight, the Tories have sent us into a civil war that will endure for decades. This is not self fulfilling prophecy, it is fact. David Cameron & his party will be infamous in the annals of history. CassandraXx Agree with you here to some extent BS. Whilst I’m a firm leaver, and have been for many years well before referendum was thought of, Cameron misread the political climate when announcing the referendum. There was a swell of UKIP supporters who had endured the injustice of 1 MP returned with over 12% of the vote (SNP had 56 MPs for 4%). So the EU referendum had around 4m start for leavers before the votes were cast. Leave was inevitable but Cameron just didn’t see it.
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Post by crapslinger on May 26, 2019 13:52:22 GMT
Hot Fuzz
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Post by bigjohnritchie on May 26, 2019 15:33:07 GMT
I agree with Raheem, I just don't see how this is appropriate which has nothing to do with Isalmaphobia. Just seems unnecessary to me. Some local council meetings do start with prayer..... for me I don't particularly want this, but it does seem more compatible with UK history, tradition and values which personally I do think matters in terms of identity. For fairness should we include Jewish, Sikh and Buddhist etc prayers? If not isn't this making a particular statement. I would not have thought that this would have done the candidate any favours. www.facebook.com/raheemkassam/videos/398661954317593/
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Post by harryburrows on May 26, 2019 15:43:37 GMT
Trump will be a quivering jelly after a trade summit
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Post by 828492 on May 26, 2019 16:12:29 GMT
Has Chris Grayling said he will be a contender yet? He has as good a record as any of them.
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Post by harryburrows on May 26, 2019 16:43:57 GMT
Anyway they need to focus on British steel and save those jobs from disappearing for ever
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Post by lordb on May 26, 2019 16:47:17 GMT
Anyway they need to focus on British steel and save those jobs from disappearing for ever Are there any votes in that for them?
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Post by harryburrows on May 26, 2019 17:04:49 GMT
Anyway they need to focus on British steel and save those jobs from disappearing for ever Are there any votes in that for them? Probably not
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Post by trickydicky73 on May 26, 2019 18:00:57 GMT
Are there any votes in that for them? Probably not For whom? Labour or Tory? Don't they all count votes(when it suits)?
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Post by LL Cool Dave on May 26, 2019 18:11:14 GMT
Has Chris Grayling said he will be a contender yet? He has as good a record as any of them. He's thrown his ring into the hat.
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Post by smallthorner on May 26, 2019 18:15:01 GMT
Sneeky suspicion it'll be Penny Mordaunt Yes. She's a long shot but ticks a lot of boxes. I've got navy connections and there is a big push for her (ooh eer missus) in the armed forces and similar areas. If it's a hard one you're after... she's your lady 😉
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Post by LL Cool Dave on May 26, 2019 18:44:04 GMT
What's the reason the tory members are electing the leader this time and not last time, is it because Leadsom withdrew when it was down to two?
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Post by auntiegeorge on May 26, 2019 19:00:52 GMT
What's the reason the tory members are electing the leader this time and not last time, is it because Leadsom withdrew when it was down to two? That's right Dave, Leadsom resigned from the race in the morning and by default May was formally declared leader that same evening. It could happen again.
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Post by smallthorner on May 26, 2019 19:05:45 GMT
Who ever it is will be a Tory bastard.
Austerity and cuts to education, NHS, care services etc.
The rich get richer and we the worker bees get trodden on.
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Post by salopstick on May 26, 2019 19:12:15 GMT
With farage set to do really well tonight it’s a tough choice for tories
They need someone seen as delivering Brexit to fend off farage and someone who can beat Corbyn because it is inevitable there will be a GE as soon as we brexit
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Post by robstokie on May 26, 2019 19:23:14 GMT
Who ever it is will be a Tory bastard. Austerity and cuts to education, NHS, care services etc. The rich get richer and we the worker bees get trodden on. Could be worse, it could be a Socialist Labour government that de-incentivises business and aspiration through a mix of punitive taxation, increased regulation that will hit small and medium sized business disproportionately harder, renationalisation of utilities which will drive prices up and standards down as there will be no competition to increase standards and an evermore interfering state which of course will be funded out of our Arse pockets for no benefit to those who work for their bread
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Post by LL Cool Dave on May 26, 2019 19:30:12 GMT
Who ever it is will be a Tory bastard. Austerity and cuts to education, NHS, care services etc. The rich get richer and we the worker bees get trodden on. Could be worse, it could be a Socialist Labour government that de-incentivises business and aspiration through a mix of punitive taxation, increased regulation that will hit small and medium sized business disproportionately harder, renationalisation of utilities which will drive prices up and standards down as there will be no competition to increase standards and an evermore interfering state which of course will be funded out of our Arse pockets for no benefit to those who work for their bread Parklife!
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Post by smallthorner on May 26, 2019 19:39:56 GMT
Who ever it is will be a Tory bastard. Austerity and cuts to education, NHS, care services etc. The rich get richer and we the worker bees get trodden on. Could be worse, it could be a Socialist Labour government that de-incentivises business and aspiration through a mix of punitive taxation, increased regulation that will hit small and medium sized business disproportionately harder, renationalisation of utilities which will drive prices up and standards down as there will be no competition to increase standards and an evermore interfering state which of course will be funded out of our Arse pockets for no benefit to those who work for their bread Depends which side of the fence you are on rob. Depends on how much you value our British socialist history of welfare and healthcare for all. Depends if you trust a Tory. Depends if you have enough money to look after your elderly parents and keep your children in the little "extras" at school.
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