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Post by Deleted on May 23, 2019 13:54:30 GMT
Sickening amount of Lib Dem posters up in Richmond as I drove through last night - but then, It is Richmond... Apologies for being pedantic, but which Richmond? The one in London infested by Sarah Olney's lot.*
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Post by wagsastokie on May 23, 2019 14:00:20 GMT
Just been to vote with my youngest lad Polling station surprisingly busy for half two in the afternoon Could well be a good turnout for a European election
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Post by sheikhmomo on May 23, 2019 14:00:39 GMT
what are your plans for the economy once we leave the EU, Nigel. What do you think about privatisation in the Health Service? What do you think about hedge funds and city bonuses? How might you fill the gaps in key roles if immigration is curbed? Will you renew Trident? What are your plans for mental Health? What do you feel about our underperforming and exploitative privatised utilities? What's your stance on the gig economy and zero hours contracts? What will you do with Universal credit? What's that Nigel, 'Democracy, Democracy, Demoracy' Oh that explains it all. Thanks Nigel. Right Wing tosspot. He doesn't need to have an answer to those questions in the EU elections. As you know the Brexit party is designed to leave the EU and thereby honour democracy. Very important for socialism. Today Nigel as an individual simply has one vote like everyone else. If not personal but about the policies If ,and it's still a big if, the BREXIT party goes on to fight a general election, particularly if we have left the EU, then each of your questions and more would be valid. It would then be up to Corbyn to put something better, more attractive and hopefully realistic/ deliverable to the electorate and they will decide. When Farage " refused" to answer questions he was asked about gun law,Why?.....he quite rightly held the BBC to account as the agenda, it seems the only agenda alongside fear, is to get the man. I hope that the Brexit party at least goes on to challenge the existing cosy cartel at s General Election. There's going to be a general election. Farage needs to get on a horse, his one trick pony is getting a bit tired.
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Post by wagsastokie on May 23, 2019 14:03:28 GMT
He doesn't need to have an answer to those questions in the EU elections. As you know the Brexit party is designed to leave the EU and thereby honour democracy. Very important for socialism. Today Nigel as an individual simply has one vote like everyone else. If not personal but about the policies If ,and it's still a big if, the BREXIT party goes on to fight a general election, particularly if we have left the EU, then each of your questions and more would be valid. It would then be up to Corbyn to put something better, more attractive and hopefully realistic/ deliverable to the electorate and they will decide. When Farage " refused" to answer questions he was asked about gun law,Why?.....he quite rightly held the BBC to account as the agenda, it seems the only agenda alongside fear, is to get the man. I hope that the Brexit party at least goes on to challenge the existing cosy cartel at s General Election. There's going to be a general election. Farage needs to get on a horse, his one trick pony is getting a bit tired. Well at least with the horse thing he’s got something in common with corbyn He’s been busy riding two horses with one arse for years
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Post by crapslinger on May 23, 2019 14:40:16 GMT
Sickening amount of Lib Dem posters up in Richmond as I drove through last night - but then, It is Richmond... I do think ardent Brexiteers have shot themselves in the foot with their hatred of everyone who doesn't agree with them. Referenda don't change peoples minds. It's perfectly legitimate to want to stay in the EU and campaign to do so if that's what you believe in just as Farage and others would have continued to campaign to come out if it had gone the other way. You labelling others with hatred is very funny
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Post by bigjohnritchie on May 23, 2019 14:42:19 GMT
He doesn't need to have an answer to those questions in the EU elections. As you know the Brexit party is designed to leave the EU and thereby honour democracy. Very important for socialism. Today Nigel as an individual simply has one vote like everyone else. If not personal but about the policies If ,and it's still a big if, the BREXIT party goes on to fight a general election, particularly if we have left the EU, then each of your questions and more would be valid. It would then be up to Corbyn to put something better, more attractive and hopefully realistic/ deliverable to the electorate and they will decide. When Farage " refused" to answer questions he was asked about gun law,Why?.....he quite rightly held the BBC to account as the agenda, it seems the only agenda alongside fear, is to get the man. I hope that the Brexit party at least goes on to challenge the existing cosy cartel at s General Election. There's going to be a general election. Farage needs to get on a horse, his one trick pony is getting a bit tired. That's when he will have to answer the questions on appropriate policy...I hope that Corbyn, presuming that he is still in post, and the leader of the other posts are equally scrutinised. Also it's not totally about him and the personal stuff, again I hope others are equally scrutinised. But it isn't really about Farage it is the issues. Benn left £4m in his will, past Labour leaders, Kinnock and Blair and their families are multi millionaires through the gravy train, then there's those Labour MPs who choose private schools for their children/ Abbott,but other schools are ok for the rest of us. Then there's Lady Nugee and the white van.Derek Hatton and Arthur Scargill have done ok...at least Farage does not claim to be a socialist.
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Post by yeokel on May 23, 2019 14:52:56 GMT
Just been to vote with my youngest lad Polling station surprisingly busy for half two in the afternoon Could well be a good turnout for a European election It will be interesting to see the figures about which age groups have bothered to vote and whether the yoof of this country could be bothered to get out of bed this time around!
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Post by sheikhmomo on May 23, 2019 15:00:34 GMT
There's going to be a general election. Farage needs to get on a horse, his one trick pony is getting a bit tired. That's when he will have to answer the questions on appropriate policy...I hope that Corbyn, presuming that he is still in post, and the leader of the other posts are equally scrutinised. Also it's not totally about him and the personal stuff, again I hope others are equally scrutinised. But it isn't really about Farage it is the issues. Benn left £4m in his will, past Labour leaders, Kinnock and Blair and their families are multi millionaires through the gravy train, then there's those Labour MPs who choose private schools for their children/ Abbott,but other schools are ok for the rest of us. Then there's Lady Nugee and the white van.Derek Hatton and Arthur Scargill have done ok...at least Farage does not claim to be a socialist. If you stand for public office in any way, it is not unreasonable to be asked questions on a range of issues. if A50 is revoked he'll be there for five years helping shape the future for everyone (if he can be arsed to turn up). Corbyn was absolutely massacred on a whole range of issues in the last election, none of them seemed to land though. Most importantly though, what on earth is that Farage doesn't want you to know? Why are so many people prepared to put their balls on the line for a bloke who they haven't the foggiest idea what he stands for? What is in the public domain is pretty right wing. Populist but anti working class in the main. People have got a kind of Brexit rabies, they are consumed by it, unable or unwilling to see any wider issues.
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Post by mrcoke on May 23, 2019 15:03:32 GMT
Just been to vote with my youngest lad Polling station surprisingly busy for half two in the afternoon Could well be a good turnout for a European election It will be interesting to see the figures about which age groups have bothered to vote and whether the yoof of this country could be bothered to get out of bed this time around! Does anyone know if the Labour Party have been as proactive in whipping up young support as they were in the GE? I am as critical of the young as many oldies, and resent be told on here the other day, that my opinion was worthless because I am retired, but we should all remember we were young once and made mistakes and had daft ideas. I used to be a member of the Liberal Party in the 1970s --- "Stupid boy!!!"
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Post by Deleted on May 23, 2019 15:08:02 GMT
So EU citizens are allowed to vote if they've filled the forms in.....some councils are reminding them
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Post by bigjohnritchie on May 23, 2019 15:08:58 GMT
That's when he will have to answer the questions on appropriate policy...I hope that Corbyn, presuming that he is still in post, and the leader of the other posts are equally scrutinised. Also it's not totally about him and the personal stuff, again I hope others are equally scrutinised. But it isn't really about Farage it is the issues. Benn left £4m in his will, past Labour leaders, Kinnock and Blair and their families are multi millionaires through the gravy train, then there's those Labour MPs who choose private schools for their children/ Abbott,but other schools are ok for the rest of us. Then there's Lady Nugee and the white van.Derek Hatton and Arthur Scargill have done ok...at least Farage does not claim to be a socialist. If you stand for public office in any way, it is not unreasonable to be asked questions on a range of issues. if A50 is revoked he'll be there for five years helping shape the future for everyone (if he can be arsed to turn up). Corbyn was absolutely massacred on a whole range of issues in the last election, none of them seemed to land though. Most importantly though, what on earth is that Farage doesn't want you to know? Why are so many people prepared to put their balls on the line for a bloke who they haven't the foggiest idea what he stands for? What is in the public domain is pretty right wing. Populist but anti working class in the main. People have got a kind of Brexit rabies, they are consumed by it, unable or unwilling to see any wider issues. I don't agree with you there Sheikh I think Brexiteers are the only ones to address the issue head on: Membership of the EU, Sovereignty and Democracy, Identity and Ever Closer Union...you might not like it or want to talk about it.. but that is what this and BREXIT is about... avoided by leavers
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Post by sheikhmomo on May 23, 2019 15:09:53 GMT
So EU citizens are allowed to vote if they've filled the forms in.....some councils are reminding them
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Post by sheikhmomo on May 23, 2019 15:11:52 GMT
If you stand for public office in any way, it is not unreasonable to be asked questions on a range of issues. if A50 is revoked he'll be there for five years helping shape the future for everyone (if he can be arsed to turn up). Corbyn was absolutely massacred on a whole range of issues in the last election, none of them seemed to land though. Most importantly though, what on earth is that Farage doesn't want you to know? Why are so many people prepared to put their balls on the line for a bloke who they haven't the foggiest idea what he stands for? What is in the public domain is pretty right wing. Populist but anti working class in the main. People have got a kind of Brexit rabies, they are consumed by it, unable or unwilling to see any wider issues. I don't agree with you there Sheikh I think Brexiteers are the only ones t do address the issue head on Membership of the EU, Sovereignty and Democracy, Identity and Ever Closer Union...you might not like it or want to talk about it.. but that is what this and BREXIT is about... avoided by leavers All of these have a domestic agenda though, ever single one of them. What are his views how it affect us domestically when we get up on November 1st? What if there is a recession, what are his policies to combat that?
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Post by crapslinger on May 23, 2019 15:12:28 GMT
That's when he will have to answer the questions on appropriate policy...I hope that Corbyn, presuming that he is still in post, and the leader of the other posts are equally scrutinised. Also it's not totally about him and the personal stuff, again I hope others are equally scrutinised. But it isn't really about Farage it is the issues. Benn left £4m in his will, past Labour leaders, Kinnock and Blair and their families are multi millionaires through the gravy train, then there's those Labour MPs who choose private schools for their children/ Abbott,but other schools are ok for the rest of us. Then there's Lady Nugee and the white van.Derek Hatton and Arthur Scargill have done ok...at least Farage does not claim to be a socialist. If you stand for public office in any way, it is not unreasonable to be asked questions on a range of issues. if A50 is revoked he'll be there for five years helping shape the future for everyone (if he can be arsed to turn up). Corbyn was absolutely massacred on a whole range of issues in the last election, none of them seemed to land though. Most importantly though, what on earth is that Farage doesn't want you to know? Why are so many people prepared to put their balls on the line for a bloke who they haven't the foggiest idea what he stands for? What is in the public domain is pretty right wing. Populist but anti working class in the main. People have got a kind of Brexit rabies, they are consumed by it, unable or unwilling to see any wider issues. He was massacred but none of it landed WTF are you talking about, he promised free unicons free this free that and still lost to the worst PM we have ever had, is it any wonder ordinary people are turning away from these con artists, maybe a change will come but I will be done peacefully within the laws of our land, which still apply to some cases
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Post by mrcoke on May 23, 2019 15:14:02 GMT
That's when he will have to answer the questions on appropriate policy...I hope that Corbyn, presuming that he is still in post, and the leader of the other posts are equally scrutinised. Also it's not totally about him and the personal stuff, again I hope others are equally scrutinised. But it isn't really about Farage it is the issues. Benn left £4m in his will, past Labour leaders, Kinnock and Blair and their families are multi millionaires through the gravy train, then there's those Labour MPs who choose private schools for their children/ Abbott,but other schools are ok for the rest of us. Then there's Lady Nugee and the white van.Derek Hatton and Arthur Scargill have done ok...at least Farage does not claim to be a socialist. If you stand for public office in any way, it is not unreasonable to be asked questions on a range of issues. if A50 is revoked he'll be there for five years helping shape the future for everyone (if he can be arsed to turn up). Corbyn was absolutely massacred on a whole range of issues in the last election, none of them seemed to land though. Most importantly though, what on earth is that Farage doesn't want you to know? Why are so many people prepared to put their balls on the line for a bloke who they haven't the foggiest idea what he stands for? What is in the public domain is pretty right wing. Populist but anti working class in the main. People have got a kind of Brexit rabies, they are consumed by it, unable or unwilling to see any wider issues. A sad indictment of your fellow "man" . I'm not assaulting anyone and well aware of the wider issues. For example if we are out of the EU we will save a lot of money and able to grow our economy faster in the world market where most of our current trade is and where 90 of future economic growth lies. The priority today though is democracy. We need to take control if our own country and we need a parliament that reflects the will of the people. When that is achieved we can vote for a socialist government to protect the welfare state, if that is what we want.
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Post by crapslinger on May 23, 2019 15:17:08 GMT
Corbyn was literally egged by a Brexit supporter last month? One incident. Anyway, it was just a joke wasn't it? That's just milkshakes according to the loony left, eggs, bottles and bricks are ok if you are a part of the MDL though.
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Post by sheikhmomo on May 23, 2019 15:19:08 GMT
One incident. Anyway, it was just a joke wasn't it? That's just milkshakes according to the loony left, eggs, bottles and bricks are ok if you are a part of the MDL though. Have you been 'Sieg Heiling' with Tommy's Army, crappy? Sounds your kinda gig?
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Post by bigjohnritchie on May 23, 2019 16:17:48 GMT
That's just milkshakes according to the loony left, eggs, bottles and bricks are ok if you are a part of the MDL though. Have you been 'Sieg Heiling' with Tommy's Army, crappy? Sounds your kinda gig? [/quote I've been reflecting on your posts Sheikh and I've come to the conclusion that you don't like Nigel Farage or Tommy Robinson. I want to be sure, Have I got that right?🤔
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Post by sheikhmomo on May 23, 2019 16:25:42 GMT
Have you been 'Sieg Heiling' with Tommy's Army, crappy? Sounds your kinda gig? [/quote I've been reflecting on your posts Sheikh and I've come to the conclusion that you don't like Nigel Farage or Tommy Robinson. I want to be sure, Have I got that right?🤔 I'm on the fence mate
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Post by crapslinger on May 23, 2019 16:40:21 GMT
That's just milkshakes according to the loony left, eggs, bottles and bricks are ok if you are a part of the MDL though. Have you been 'Sieg Heiling' with Tommy's Army, crappy? Sounds your kinda gig? Funnily enough no, what are you trying to say ?, have you been bricking people on the streets of the UK ?
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Post by trickydicky73 on May 23, 2019 16:54:22 GMT
If you stand for public office in any way, it is not unreasonable to be asked questions on a range of issues. if A50 is revoked he'll be there for five years helping shape the future for everyone (if he can be arsed to turn up). Corbyn was absolutely massacred on a whole range of issues in the last election, none of them seemed to land though. Most importantly though, what on earth is that Farage doesn't want you to know? Why are so many people prepared to put their balls on the line for a bloke who they haven't the foggiest idea what he stands for? What is in the public domain is pretty right wing. Populist but anti working class in the main. People have got a kind of Brexit rabies, they are consumed by it, unable or unwilling to see any wider issues. He was massacred but none of it landed WTF are you talking about, he promised free unicons free this free that and still lost to the worst PM we have ever had, is it any wonder ordinary people are turning away from these con artists, maybe a change will come but I will be done peacefully within the laws of our land, which still apply to some cases I think Corbyn was treated amazingly gently on TV. I don't read the papers, but gather it was a different story in some of them, but he never got the Marr treatment on TV. The only awkward question I remember was one about the Royal family. If Corbyn had really been attacked, he wouldn't have closed the 20 point lead that the Tories had. When has that happened in history, a twenty point lead disappearing? Yet another Brexit first, like so many others. The election was unnecessary, May had a majority. Corbyn has served his purpose. You'll see a real attack before the next General Election, but only if it suits.
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Post by LL Cool Dave on May 23, 2019 17:15:59 GMT
Votes just gone in for the Lib Dems. First time for everything.
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Post by harryburrows on May 23, 2019 17:17:06 GMT
That's when he will have to answer the questions on appropriate policy...I hope that Corbyn, presuming that he is still in post, and the leader of the other posts are equally scrutinised. Also it's not totally about him and the personal stuff, again I hope others are equally scrutinised. But it isn't really about Farage it is the issues. Benn left £4m in his will, past Labour leaders, Kinnock and Blair and their families are multi millionaires through the gravy train, then there's those Labour MPs who choose private schools for their children/ Abbott,but other schools are ok for the rest of us. Then there's Lady Nugee and the white van.Derek Hatton and Arthur Scargill have done ok...at least Farage does not claim to be a socialist. If you stand for public office in any way, it is not unreasonable to be asked questions on a range of issues. if A50 is revoked he'll be there for five years helping shape the future for everyone (if he can be arsed to turn up). Corbyn was absolutely massacred on a whole range of issues in the last election, none of them seemed to land though. Most importantly though, what on earth is that Farage doesn't want you to know? Why are so many people prepared to put their balls on the line for a bloke who they haven't the foggiest idea what he stands for? What is in the public domain is pretty right wing. Populist but anti working class in the main. People have got a kind of Brexit rabies, they are consumed by it, unable or unwilling to see any wider issues. I think all folks are looking for are politicians who do what they promised and a PM that doesn't lie and deceive her core voters.
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Post by maxplonk on May 23, 2019 17:19:05 GMT
As for your article maybe the quoted labour mep should stop moaning and investigate why all the cases in the article seem to involve labour run councils The Electoral Commission makes no such distinction.
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Post by trickydicky73 on May 23, 2019 17:22:22 GMT
So EU citizens are allowed to vote if they've filled the forms in.....some councils are reminding them I wish that fat cunt and other cunts had given British citizens as much consideration as they have to those from the EU. I don't think Brexit would have happened if genuine concerns were listened to.
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Post by spitthedog on May 23, 2019 17:23:30 GMT
He was massacred but none of it landed WTF are you talking about, he promised free unicons free this free that and still lost to the worst PM we have ever had, is it any wonder ordinary people are turning away from these con artists, maybe a change will come but I will be done peacefully within the laws of our land, which still apply to some cases I think Corbyn was treated amazingly gently on TV. I don't read the papers, but gather it was a different story in some of them, but he never got the Marr treatment on TV. The only awkward question I remember was one about the Royal family. If Corbyn had really been attacked, he wouldn't have closed the 20 point lead that the Tories had. When has that happened in history, a twenty point lead disappearing? Yet another Brexit first, like so many others. The election was unnecessary, May had a majority. Corbyn has served his purpose. You'll see a real attack before the next General Election, but only if it suits. To claim that Corbyn is not challenged by our media is something beyond delusional. All the mainstream papers (unsurprisingly) despise him with a vengeance and come up with a different smear that tells us that every single day. Even the Mirror and Guardian don't like him. It would be hard to find someone who has been more heavily castigated by the press, maybe a Moors Murderer.
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Post by trickydicky73 on May 23, 2019 17:28:10 GMT
I think Corbyn was treated amazingly gently on TV. I don't read the papers, but gather it was a different story in some of them, but he never got the Marr treatment on TV. The only awkward question I remember was one about the Royal family. If Corbyn had really been attacked, he wouldn't have closed the 20 point lead that the Tories had. When has that happened in history, a twenty point lead disappearing? Yet another Brexit first, like so many others. The election was unnecessary, May had a majority. Corbyn has served his purpose. You'll see a real attack before the next General Election, but only if it suits. To claim that Corbyn is not challenged by our media is something beyond delusional. All the mainstream papers (unsurprisingly) despise him with a vengeance and come up with a different smear that tells us that every single day. Even the Mirror and Guardian don't like him. It would be hard to find someone who has been more heavily castigated by the press, maybe a Moors Murderer. I stand by what I said regarding the TV debates prior to the election. They didn't do what Marr did to Farage. He would have got ratted if they had. I have conceded the papers are a different matter.
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Post by thevoid on May 23, 2019 18:04:19 GMT
That's when he will have to answer the questions on appropriate policy...I hope that Corbyn, presuming that he is still in post, and the leader of the other posts are equally scrutinised. Also it's not totally about him and the personal stuff, again I hope others are equally scrutinised. But it isn't really about Farage it is the issues. Benn left £4m in his will, past Labour leaders, Kinnock and Blair and their families are multi millionaires through the gravy train, then there's those Labour MPs who choose private schools for their children/ Abbott,but other schools are ok for the rest of us. Then there's Lady Nugee and the white van.Derek Hatton and Arthur Scargill have done ok...at least Farage does not claim to be a socialist. If you stand for public office in any way, it is not unreasonable to be asked questions on a range of issues. if A50 is revoked he'll be there for five years helping shape the future for everyone (if he can be arsed to turn up). Corbyn was absolutely massacred on a whole range of issues in the last election, none of them seemed to land though. Most importantly though, what on earth is that Farage doesn't want you to know? Why are so many people prepared to put their balls on the line for a bloke who they haven't the foggiest idea what he stands for? What is in the public domain is pretty right wing. Populist but anti working class in the main. People have got a kind of Brexit rabies, they are consumed by it, unable or unwilling to see any wider issues. If Brexit had been delivered when it should, we could have moved on by now. Farage is ONLY involved because that hasn't happened.
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Post by salopstick on May 23, 2019 18:07:26 GMT
Off to vote
Cross your fingers no cunt throws milkshake at me
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Post by thevoid on May 23, 2019 18:09:03 GMT
I think Corbyn was treated amazingly gently on TV. I don't read the papers, but gather it was a different story in some of them, but he never got the Marr treatment on TV. The only awkward question I remember was one about the Royal family. If Corbyn had really been attacked, he wouldn't have closed the 20 point lead that the Tories had. When has that happened in history, a twenty point lead disappearing? Yet another Brexit first, like so many others. The election was unnecessary, May had a majority. Corbyn has served his purpose. You'll see a real attack before the next General Election, but only if it suits. To claim that Corbyn is not challenged by our media is something beyond delusional. All the mainstream papers (unsurprisingly) despise him with a vengeance and come up with a different smear that tells us that every single day. Even the Mirror and Guardian don't like him. It would be hard to find someone who has been more heavily castigated by the press, maybe a Moors Murderer. If The Grauniad don't like him that should tell you something.
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