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Post by neilb987 on May 5, 2019 17:16:24 GMT
Pace is an asset, but not enough in itself to make a good footballer. Good positional sense and an ability to tackle are essential for a fullback ... and I don’t think Moritz has enough of either, unfortunately.
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Post by FullerMagic on May 11, 2019 19:24:46 GMT
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Post by Laughing Gravy on May 11, 2019 19:31:07 GMT
Does his agent say which four clubs later in his tweet?
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Post by theteacher on May 11, 2019 19:32:35 GMT
Looks to me as though he started as a winger. Wasn’t good enough so was moved to right back. Not really a right back but an energetic player who tries.
Would look to move him on for a fee before his stock falls further.
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Post by ravey123 on May 11, 2019 19:33:32 GMT
Does his agent say which four clubs later in his tweet? Why do we have to keep loaning these players out - cant our crack transfer team actually SELL some of them for a change
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Post by Gods on May 11, 2019 19:36:21 GMT
Some people call me the space cowboy, yeah Some call me the gangster of love Some people call me Moritz ...
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Post by nonameface on May 11, 2019 19:36:57 GMT
If the club feel a loan could see an increase in value then fair enough. I think it would be better just to get him gone if he's not in the squad.
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Post by werrington on May 11, 2019 19:38:33 GMT
Does his agent say which four clubs later in his tweet? Why do we have to keep loaning these players out - cant our crack transfer team actually SELL some of them for a change Yeah but the player won’t move unless somebody matches his wages
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Post by FullerMagic on May 11, 2019 19:39:39 GMT
Does his agent say which four clubs later in his tweet? Why do we have to keep loaning these players out - cant our crack transfer team actually SELL some of them for a change To be fair, suppose it's a tough job when they're on the contracts they're on and have the option of sitting tight and letting the money that they'll never see in their lives again to continue to roll in for 3 or 4 more years. In his case, given how average he is and the fact he's got 4 years left on a deal that supposedly put him back on the Premier League contract he joined on, is there anyone out there who'd come close to matching it long-term to give him any kind of decision to make? Or will it be a few more years of loans?
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Post by boskampsflaps on May 11, 2019 20:00:34 GMT
Does his agent say which four clubs later in his tweet? Why do we have to keep loaning these players out - cant our crack transfer team actually SELL some of them for a change Because no one wants to spend money on them or the ones that are interested don't have any to spend, its annoying but at least with a loan we'd be saving something on wages and maybe get some token loan fee.
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Post by Gary Hackett on May 11, 2019 20:01:10 GMT
Why do we have to keep loaning these players out - cant our crack transfer team actually SELL some of them for a change To be fair, suppose it's a tough job when they're on the contracts they're on and have the option of sitting tight and letting the money that they'll never see in their lives again to continue to roll in for 3 or 4 more years. In his case, given how average he is and the fact he's got 4 years left on a deal that supposedly put him back on the Premier League contract he joined on, is there anyone out there who'd come close to matching it long-term to give him any kind of decision to make? Or will it be a few more years of loans? Only average?
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Post by Deleted on May 11, 2019 20:03:45 GMT
Some people call me the space cowboy, yeah Some call me the gangster of love Some people call me Moritz ... And I'm a noose, around the neck of my club.
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Post by Cast no shadow on May 11, 2019 20:06:58 GMT
Yay a loan
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Post by gaznandi on May 11, 2019 20:23:51 GMT
Cagliari, Real Betis, Lille and Zenit St Petersburg
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Post by andystokey on May 11, 2019 20:47:10 GMT
Looks to me as though he started as a winger. Wasn’t good enough so was moved to right back. Not really a right back but an energetic player who tries. Would look to move him on for a fee before his stock falls further. He's not a defender that's for sure.
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Post by owdestokie2 on May 11, 2019 20:48:18 GMT
Why do we have to keep loaning these players out - cant our crack transfer team actually SELL some of them for a change Yeah but the player won’t move unless somebody matches his wages A five year contract and which “manager” signed him? You’re exactly right, would you swap jobs for less money
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Post by Gods on May 11, 2019 20:48:27 GMT
Why do we have to keep loaning these players out - cant our crack transfer team actually SELL some of them for a change To be fair, suppose it's a tough job when they're on the contracts they're on and have the option of sitting tight and letting the money that they'll never see in their lives again to continue to roll in for 3 or 4 more years. In his case, given how average he is and the fact h e's got 4 years left on a deal that supposedly put him back on the Premier League contract he joined on, is there anyone out there who'd come close to matching it long-term to give him any kind of decision to make? Or will it be a few more years of loans? Strange time when you look back on it wasn't it? It was the moment the last of the doubters came on side and the opposition teams cried 'foul' we were spending too much for everyone else, Stoke City were going to run away with the Championship. None of that happened and now we are stuck with the multi-lingual, aeroplane flying, blonde bombshell and we can't give the f*cker away because we tied him in to a 5 year deal on Prem wages in the Championship
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Post by owdestokie2 on May 11, 2019 20:50:17 GMT
Who signed him, who extended a contract to five years? Who ever it was wants sacking
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Post by berahinosgoals on May 11, 2019 21:04:34 GMT
Isn't the club he come from interested, wasn't he their player of the year before joining stoke?
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Post by lordb on May 11, 2019 21:07:38 GMT
Who signed him, who extended a contract to five years? Who ever it was wants sacking The answer to the first question is up for debate. The answer to the second question is Tony Scholes. Have to say was shocked by Bauer 2018-19 Very underwhelmed.
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Post by boskampsflaps on May 11, 2019 21:36:27 GMT
Who signed him, who extended a contract to five years? Who ever it was wants sacking Hughes.
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Post by Deleted on May 11, 2019 21:41:50 GMT
Some of this is a bit harsh on him. He’s tried. It’s not really his fault all this. Whoever gave him the new contract is responsible. He’s more likeable than some others - at least he tries when he has played. I don’t personally think he’s that bad although Edwards should of course be first pick. Would have liked to have seen him given a go on the wing but it’s just another fuck up by the club both for him given he’s missed a season effectively and financially for us.
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Post by boskampsflaps on May 11, 2019 22:29:44 GMT
Some of this is a bit harsh on him. He’s tried. It’s not really his fault all this. Whoever gave him the new contract is responsible. He’s more likeable than some others - at least he tries when he has played. I don’t personally think he’s that bad although Edwards should of course be first pick. Would have liked to have seen him given a go on the wing but it’s just another fuck up by the club both for him given he’s missed a season effectively and financially for us. He does try but he's still an awful footballer, but you're right the new contracts were misguided at best, I can understand why they did it but they went too far and chose the wrong players, Allen and Butland would have been enough.
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Post by chrispk on May 11, 2019 22:37:43 GMT
Have to agree with most . Not a right back because he switches off or too busy looking forward . Not a right winger because his ability to dribble past a player , cross a ball , are both average for his age and experience
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Post by wilcopotter on May 11, 2019 23:37:49 GMT
Some of this is a bit harsh on him. He’s tried. It’s not really his fault all this. Whoever gave him the new contract is responsible. He’s more likeable than some others - at least he tries when he has played. I don’t personally think he’s that bad although Edwards should of course be first pick. Would have liked to have seen him given a go on the wing but it’s just another fuck up by the club both for him given he’s missed a season effectively and financially for us. I wouldn’t mind being paid 20-30k a week as part of a fuck up for 4-5 years.
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Post by spitthedog on May 11, 2019 23:39:47 GMT
Who signed him, who extended a contract to five years? Who ever it was wants sacking Hughes. I don't think so. Managers don't get involved in contracts.
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Post by boskampsflaps on May 12, 2019 1:22:51 GMT
I don't think so. Managers don't get involved in contracts. Signed him, I ignored the contract thing as no one knows who decided that apart from those involved.
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Post by PotterLog on May 12, 2019 1:37:43 GMT
Who signed him, who extended a contract to five years? Who ever it was wants sacking Hughes. It was actually one of those signings that Cartwright was keen to “hang his hat on”
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Post by boskampsflaps on May 12, 2019 2:32:33 GMT
It was actually one of those signings that Cartwright was keen to “hang his hat on” Was it, I'm pretty sure one of the Hughes lot claimed it later on, maybe I imagined it
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Post by huuuuuth on May 12, 2019 2:34:13 GMT
He was a breath of fresh air on his debut, in a sea of stinking cack
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