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Post by AlbertTatlock on Apr 9, 2019 20:47:23 GMT
A big fat fucking zero for BMI. Edwards. Etebo. Allen. Clucas. Afobe. Vokes. Butland 4 Batth 3 Williams 5 Maclean 6 MOM Not much point rating the subs as they were pissing on a forest fire. Gouranga.
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Post by teenagefanclub on Apr 9, 2019 20:59:28 GMT
I know I know, but I thought mcclean ran his bollocks off tonight.
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Post by spitthedog on Apr 9, 2019 21:06:32 GMT
Butland - 5 - must be thinking....what the hell am I doing here Edwards - 2 - not quite as good as we thought!!!....got slaughtered and had to resort to assault BMI - 4 - not sure about the sending off Baath - 5 - his worst appearance for us Williams - 4 - poor Etebo - 2 - shocking performance, our midfield are not as good as they are hyped up to be. Allen -2 pretended to look busy as usual, no protection from him for our defence, no creativity again, just busy chasing shadows and playing the ball backwards....did someone say he is worth £20m Clucas - 2 - someone please tell me....what is he??? McClean - 5 - ran his balls off and good goal Vokes - 2 - £10m...you are having a laugh Afobe - 3 - £12m ...you are having a laugh Collins - 5 - looked our best player...but what a crap position to be put in for a debut!
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Post by maine on Apr 9, 2019 21:20:03 GMT
Butland - 6 Edwards - 5- BMI - 5 - Baath - 6 - Williams - 6- Etebo -6- Allen 7 Clucas 3 McClean 6 Vokes -5 Afobe -4
Collins -7
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Post by LankyPotter on Apr 9, 2019 21:28:13 GMT
Butland (5) - Conceded three but could have easily been worse if it hadn’t of been for him.
Edwards (3) - James absolutely had him on toast, had no answer for his speed or ability, hopefully he learns from it.
Batth (4) - Danny’s worst performance for us so far but he has been a rock for us so im not going to be overly critical.
Williams (3) - Can’t wait until he returns to Everton. Enough said.
Martins-Indi (3) - Not a full-back but he is sooooo slow. I would sell Bruno in the summer if an offer came in.
Allen and Etebo (4) - Absolutely over run, couldn’t get near to swansea’s players but I must say the pair of them grafted for the team.
Clucas (1) - Offered fuck all, he is a really bad central midfielder and even worse attacking midfielder.
Mcclean (1) - Mcclean is a terrible footballer, doesn’t offer any quality his second touch is always a tackle because his first has lost him the ball. Works hard but offers very little.
Afobe (1) - Not a right midfielder. Would love to sell him in the summer he has been a poor poor signing.
Vokes (4) - Felt sorry for him to be honest, Very isolated and had very little to work with.
Collins ball out to Williams was superb. Hope he gets another chance against Rotherham.
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Post by boskampsflaps on Apr 9, 2019 21:32:00 GMT
Butland - 5 - must be thinking....what the hell am I doing here Edwards - 2 - not quite as good as we thought!!!....got slaughtered and had to resort to assault BMI - 4 - not sure about the sending off Baath - 5 - his worst appearance for us Williams - 4 - poor Etebo - 2 - shocking performance, our midfield are not as good as they are hyped up to be. Allen -2 pretended to look busy as usual, no protection from him for our defence, no creativity again, just busy chasing shadows and playing the ball backwards....did someone say he is worth £20m Clucas - 2 - someone please tell me....what is he??? McClean - 5 - ran his balls off and good goal Vokes - 2 - £10m...you are having a laugh Afobe - 3 - £12m ...you are having a laugh Collins - 5 - looked our best player...but what a crap position to be put in for a debut! Given the circumstances this is way over critical but Collins lost his man for the 3rd, it was pretty poor defending.
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Post by wuzza on Apr 9, 2019 21:41:10 GMT
Butland (5) - Conceded three but could have easily been worse if it hadn’t of been for him. Edwards (3) - James absolutely had him on toast, had no answer for his speed or ability, hopefully he learns from it. Batth (4) - Danny’s worst performance for us so far but he has been a rock for us so im not going to be overly critical. Williams (3) - Can’t wait until he returns to Everton. Enough said. Martins-Indi (3) - Not a full-back but he is sooooo slow. I would sell Bruno in the summer if an offer came in. Allen and Etebo (4) - Absolutely over run, couldn’t get near to swansea’s players but I must say the pair of them grafted for the team. Clucas (1) - Offered fuck all, he is a really bad central midfielder and even worse attacking midfielder. Mcclean (1) - Mcclean is a terrible footballer, doesn’t offer any quality his second touch is always a tackle because his first has lost him the ball. Works hard but offers very little. Afobe (1) - Not a right midfielder. Would love to sell him in the summer he has been a poor poor signing. Vokes (4) - Felt sorry for him to be honest, Very isolated and had very little to work with. Collins ball out to Williams was superb. Hope he gets another chance against Rotherham. You might not rate MacLean in general but I can’t see how it was possible to rate his performance tonight as lower than, for example, Etebo - who was abysmal on every level.
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Post by LankyPotter on Apr 9, 2019 21:49:02 GMT
Butland (5) - Conceded three but could have easily been worse if it hadn’t of been for him. Edwards (3) - James absolutely had him on toast, had no answer for his speed or ability, hopefully he learns from it. Batth (4) - Danny’s worst performance for us so far but he has been a rock for us so im not going to be overly critical. Williams (3) - Can’t wait until he returns to Everton. Enough said. Martins-Indi (3) - Not a full-back but he is sooooo slow. I would sell Bruno in the summer if an offer came in. Allen and Etebo (4) - Absolutely over run, couldn’t get near to swansea’s players but I must say the pair of them grafted for the team. Clucas (1) - Offered fuck all, he is a really bad central midfielder and even worse attacking midfielder. Mcclean (1) - Mcclean is a terrible footballer, doesn’t offer any quality his second touch is always a tackle because his first has lost him the ball. Works hard but offers very little. Afobe (1) - Not a right midfielder. Would love to sell him in the summer he has been a poor poor signing. Vokes (4) - Felt sorry for him to be honest, Very isolated and had very little to work with. Collins ball out to Williams was superb. Hope he gets another chance against Rotherham. You might not rate MacLean in general but I can’t see how it was possible to rate his performance tonight as lower than, for example, Etebo - who was abysmal on every level. He was brave on the ball, never just slashed at it to clear it away in a panic. Tried to get the ball down and play but it wasn’t anywhere near his best tonight. Thats my reasoning - 4 is fair in my opinion. And mcclean is a non entity does not offer any quality.
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Post by wuzza on Apr 9, 2019 21:50:42 GMT
You might not rate MacLean in general but I can’t see how it was possible to rate his performance tonight as lower than, for example, Etebo - who was abysmal on every level. He was brave on the ball, never just slashed at it to clear it away in a panic. Tried to get the ball down and play but it wasn’t anywhere near his best tonight. Thats my reasoning - 4 is fair in my opinion. And mcclean is a non entity does not offer any quality. I thought he created a fair chunk of the panic himself with the quality of his passing but there we go.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 9, 2019 21:55:10 GMT
Butland - 7 - must be desperate to leave this shit-show behind
Edwards - 4 - painfully shown up tonight, out of his depth against real pace
BMI - 4 - milk turns quicker
Baath - 5 - on a par with his Derby away performance but has credit in the bank
Williams - 5 - never rated him, tonight was just another of those performances you come to expect
Etebo - 5 - any scouts watching tonight & they will have seen his limitations.
Allen - 5 - won the ball, gave it away, rinsed and repeated
Clucas - 2 - it's a pity Stephen Hawking died when he did, as surely he's the only bloke on the planet that could explain Clucas' very existence as a footballer? I'd give him away.
McClean 4 - ran a lot, scored, went 22 minutes without touching the ball, fucking rubbish
Vokes - 4 - missed a sitter, in his defence what's the point in playing a focal target man and not using the tactic?
Afobe - 2 - pathetic, pisspoor, painful - alliteration that Nigel Johnson would be proud of
Collins - 5 - Looked OK for the time he was on
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Post by Deleted on Apr 9, 2019 21:58:34 GMT
Butland 6
Edwards 3 Batth 5 Williams 1 BMI 3
Allen 1 Etebo 4
Afobe 2 Clucas 1 McClean 4
Vokes 5
Collins 6 MOTM
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Post by SamB_SCFC on Apr 9, 2019 22:00:50 GMT
Butland 5 messed up for the third goal
Edwards 1 absolute shocker tonight sorry lad. Hopefully a learning curve moment for him.
Batth 5 did his best but was facing an onslaught and had no protection
Williams 4 poor and slow as always. But like Batth was hung out to dry by the shit in front and either side of him.
BMI 1 awful and slow and clumsy red card. Not a full back though.
Etebo 4 poor anonymous game from him. After an upturn in form that was back to his anonymous early season form.
Allen 4 one of his headless chicken performances where he runs round a lot but achieves absolutely nothing.
Clucas 1 awful. Just don't see what he brings. And I don't get the 'good lad, good attitude' thing either. Shushing the crowd after scoring against Leeds and he doesn't seem to graft any harder than anyone else or show any leadership skills.
McLean 6 probably best performance. Good goal and always worked hard and looked to try and be an outlet.
Afobe 3 awful yet again. Out of position is his only defence.
Vokes 3 worryingly abject. Looks past it.
Substitutes not worth rating.
Jones 1 for turning up. He's had a 'mare tonight.
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Post by LankyPotter on Apr 9, 2019 22:08:04 GMT
He was brave on the ball, never just slashed at it to clear it away in a panic. Tried to get the ball down and play but it wasn’t anywhere near his best tonight. Thats my reasoning - 4 is fair in my opinion. And mcclean is a non entity does not offer any quality. I thought he created a fair chunk of the panic himself with the quality of his passing but there we go. I agree that he misplaced some passes tonight but I would say that it does take bravery to play out in those positions to be fair. Offered more than mcclean and thats why i gave him a better rating.
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Post by AlbertTatlock on Apr 9, 2019 22:16:13 GMT
I thought he created a fair chunk of the panic himself with the quality of his passing but there we go. I agree that he misplaced some passes tonight but I would say that it does take bravery to play out in those positions to be fair. Offered more than mcclean and thats why i gave him a better rating. He misplaced nearly every pass and got caught in possession countless times - this was the case for Allen as well, I lost count how many times they passsed to a Swansea player or got caught with the ball then the ball ended up in our box putting the defence under pressure, both Etebo and Allen were totally dominated tonight. Gouranga.
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Post by thehoof on Apr 9, 2019 22:22:43 GMT
Butland - 5 - must be thinking....what the hell am I doing here Edwards - 2 - not quite as good as we thought!!!....got slaughtered and had to resort to assault BMI - 4 - not sure about the sending off Baath - 5 - his worst appearance for us Williams - 4 - poor Etebo - 2 - shocking performance, our midfield are not as good as they are hyped up to be. Allen -2 pretended to look busy as usual, no protection from him for our defence, no creativity again, just busy chasing shadows and playing the ball backwards....did someone say he is worth £20m Clucas - 2 - someone please tell me....what is he??? McClean - 5 - ran his balls off and good goal Vokes - 2 - £10m...you are having a laugh Afobe - 3 - £12m ...you are having a laugh Collins - 5 - looked our best player...but what a crap position to be put in for a debut! Given the circumstances this is way over critical but Collins lost his man for the 3rd, it was pretty poor defending. It was Bos, but it was shocking keeping as well.
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Post by LankyPotter on Apr 9, 2019 22:24:08 GMT
I agree that he misplaced some passes tonight but I would say that it does take bravery to play out in those positions to be fair. Offered more than mcclean and thats why i gave him a better rating. He misplaced nearly every pass and got caught in possession countless times - this was the case for Allen as well, I lost count how many times they passsed to a Swansea player or got caught with the ball then the ball ended up in our box putting the defence under pressure, both Etebo and Allen were totally dominated tonight. Gouranga. I agree with parts of that reply. They were both dominated but my original point was that i thought they offerd more than mcclean. His goal was at best a fluke and aside from that poor piece of goalkeeping he did fuck all and is pony. Atleast etebo and allen tried to get on the ball.
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Post by spitthedog on Apr 9, 2019 22:46:38 GMT
Butland - 5 - must be thinking....what the hell am I doing here Edwards - 2 - not quite as good as we thought!!!....got slaughtered and had to resort to assault BMI - 4 - not sure about the sending off Baath - 5 - his worst appearance for us Williams - 4 - poor Etebo - 2 - shocking performance, our midfield are not as good as they are hyped up to be. Allen -2 pretended to look busy as usual, no protection from him for our defence, no creativity again, just busy chasing shadows and playing the ball backwards....did someone say he is worth £20m Clucas - 2 - someone please tell me....what is he??? McClean - 5 - ran his balls off and good goal Vokes - 2 - £10m...you are having a laugh Afobe - 3 - £12m ...you are having a laugh Collins - 5 - looked our best player...but what a crap position to be put in for a debut! Given the circumstances this is way over critical but Collins lost his man for the 3rd, it was pretty poor defending. I honestly think I'm being generous. Collins deserves 5 for agreeing to play in a team of 9 on his debut and getting through it with just one mistake. He was hung out to dry. It was just awful and some em didn't look like they gave a shit. The midfield was totally overrun from start to finish.
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Post by AlbertTatlock on Apr 9, 2019 22:58:48 GMT
He misplaced nearly every pass and got caught in possession countless times - this was the case for Allen as well, I lost count how many times they passsed to a Swansea player or got caught with the ball then the ball ended up in our box putting the defence under pressure, both Etebo and Allen were totally dominated tonight. Gouranga. I agree with parts of that reply. They were both dominated but my original point was that i thought they offerd more than mcclean. His goal was at best a fluke and aside from that poor piece of goalkeeping he did fuck all and is pony. Atleast etebo and allen tried to get on the ball. But we are not comparing the players, we are rating them and TBH if you think that Etebo or Allen had a better game that Maclean yo must have watched a different match to me, granted Maclean wasn't great but he put in a cross that Vokes should have scored from and he scored a great goal, these things might be the only things he contributed on the night but it's still more a 1000 times more than either Allen or Etebo contributed. Let's not let agendas get in the way here heh? Gouranga.
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Post by musik on Apr 10, 2019 15:16:27 GMT
Hellu!
I only saw the video clip highlights (10:20 something).
Listened to it on radio live though.
Butland - 5 :some saves, 3 goals though BMI - 0 :move your ass man, instead of getting a crystal clear red card. Williams - 2 :well ... Batth - 4 :Slow, but saved us once Edwards - 3 :it's always hard against one of the fastest players alive Allen - 2: looked busy, but Etebo - 1: poss. his worst game McClean - 7: great goal [but I noticed it was NO enthusiasm among the players], worked hard Clucas - 0 :unrateable Afobe - 0: Hehe Vokes - 0 :Jokes
Adam - ? :was he playing? Diouf - 2 :he moved Collins - ? :I didn't notice him. Maybe he was spectacular?
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