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Post by eastyorksexile on Feb 26, 2019 22:16:46 GMT
OK I have got my tin had ready, my point is that young Tom was found wanting in the pace department against Villa, not blaming him for the result but just concerned he is a young lad and bein* strongly discussed as our future right back, not sure I agree with that because yo7 don’t normally get faster as you get older....
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Post by swampySCFC on Feb 26, 2019 22:19:33 GMT
No tin hat from me mate he was fucking useless and particularly so for their goal. Then again Bouldy was at the start of his career so lets see
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Post by mickeythemaestro on Feb 26, 2019 22:25:35 GMT
The lad deserves time and I hope it gets it for the rest of the season. He's come into a dog shet side with no morale so isn't getting the assistance you would ideally like young lads to get from the more experienced pros. He makes mistakes but I've seen glimpses of real promise at times. I've got my fingers crossed for the lad.
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Post by PotteringThrough on Feb 26, 2019 22:26:53 GMT
On the flip side, Adamoah is quite quick.
Edit - as is El Ghazi
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Post by mickeythemaestro on Feb 26, 2019 22:28:44 GMT
On the flip side, Adamoah is quite quick. He bloody was. Rapid.
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Post by swampySCFC on Feb 26, 2019 22:28:53 GMT
The lad deserves time and I hope it gets it for the rest of the season. He's come into a dog shet side with no morale so isn't getting the assistance you would ideally like young lads to get from the more experienced pros. He makes mistakes but I've seen glimpses of real promise at times. I've got my fingers crossed for the lad. Me too but he needs to rise above it or go and play for Crewe because this is how it is in this league. Needs to lose some weight
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Feb 26, 2019 22:36:14 GMT
On the flip side, Adamoah is quite quick. He was but he wasn’t up against Edwards
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Post by mickeythemaestro on Feb 26, 2019 22:36:30 GMT
The lad deserves time and I hope it gets it for the rest of the season. He's come into a dog shet side with no morale so isn't getting the assistance you would ideally like young lads to get from the more experienced pros. He makes mistakes but I've seen glimpses of real promise at times. I've got my fingers crossed for the lad. Me too but he needs to rise above it or go and play for Crewe because this is how it is in this league. Needs to lose some weight He certainly looks like a stocky unit alright. I think given adamoahs pace he was positionally naïve at times and got rumbled and was never going to catch him up. Not seen it back but maybe a more experienced player would have clipped the player and taken a card. A good run of games, as we are essentially playing for nothing now, might give teach him a few valuable lessons.
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Post by boskampsflaps on Feb 26, 2019 22:41:50 GMT
He'll learn how to handle players that are quicker than him, he's 20 give him a break, its his first decent run in the first team against seasoned pros, he's going to get done every now and then, if I'm honest I was more concerned about the lack of cover he had.
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Post by GeneralFaye on Feb 26, 2019 22:46:37 GMT
He was naive, he should've kicked him into the stand on the half way line while he had the chance. I don't think he's "slow" though at all.
I'm fascinated to why he gets so much bashing though, it's fucking odd.
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Post by mickeythemaestro on Feb 26, 2019 22:47:30 GMT
He'll learn how to handle players that are quicker than him, he's 20 give him a break, its his first decent run in the first team against seasoned pros, he's going to get done every now and then, if I'm honest I was more concerned about the lack of cover he had. He defo needs a break. A young Maldini would be struggling breaking into this current team.
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Post by crapslinger on Feb 26, 2019 22:53:26 GMT
He'll learn how to handle players that are quicker than him, he's 20 give him a break, its his first decent run in the first team against seasoned pros, he's going to get done every now and then, if I'm honest I was more concerned about the lack of cover he had. He defo needs a break. A young Maldini would be struggling breaking into this current team. Sam 'The Touch' Morrissey would struggle breaking into our current set up.
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Post by crapslinger on Feb 26, 2019 22:55:13 GMT
OK I have got my tin had ready, my point is that young Tom was found wanting in the pace department against Villa, not blaming him for the result but just concerned he is a young lad and bein* strongly discussed as our future right back, not sure I agree with that because yo7 don’t normally get faster as you get older.... You can not coach pace simple as that.
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Post by mickeythemaestro on Feb 26, 2019 22:56:13 GMT
He defo needs a break. A young Maldini would be struggling breaking into this current team. Sam 'The Touch' Morrissey would struggle breaking into our current set up. <iframe width="26.1800000000001" height="4.75999999999999" id="MoatPxIOPT0_83498702" scrolling="no" style="border-style: none; left: 15px; top: -5px; width: 26.18px; height: 4.76px; position: absolute; z-index: -9999;"></iframe> <iframe width="26.1800000000001" height="4.75999999999999" id="MoatPxIOPT0_83265692" scrolling="no" style="border-style: none; left: 1246px; top: -5px; width: 26.18px; height: 4.76px; position: absolute; z-index: -9999;"></iframe> <iframe width="26.1800000000001" height="4.75999999999999" id="MoatPxIOPT0_53781804" scrolling="no" style="border-style: none; left: 15px; top: 178px; width: 26.18px; height: 4.76px; position: absolute; z-index: -9999;"></iframe> <iframe width="26.1800000000001" height="4.75999999999999" id="MoatPxIOPT0_21747430" scrolling="no" style="border-style: none; left: 1246px; top: 178px; width: 26.18px; height: 4.76px; position: absolute; z-index: -9999;"></iframe> I had to look that up to be fair
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Post by mickeythemaestro on Feb 26, 2019 22:59:38 GMT
OK I have got my tin had ready, my point is that young Tom was found wanting in the pace department against Villa, not blaming him for the result but just concerned he is a young lad and bein* strongly discussed as our future right back, not sure I agree with that because yo7 don’t normally get faster as you get older.... You can not coach pace simple as that. <iframe width="26.1800000000001" height="5.42000000000002" id="MoatPxIOPT0_57330801" scrolling="no" style="border-style: none; left: 15px; top: -5px; width: 26.18px; height: 5.42px; position: absolute; z-index: -9999;"></iframe> <iframe width="26.1800000000001" height="5.42000000000002" id="MoatPxIOPT0_94327830" scrolling="no" style="border-style: none; left: 1246px; top: -5px; width: 26.18px; height: 5.42px; position: absolute; z-index: -9999;"></iframe> <iframe width="26.1800000000001" height="5.42000000000002" id="MoatPxIOPT0_12517950" scrolling="no" style="border-style: none; left: 15px; top: 209px; width: 26.18px; height: 5.42px; position: absolute; z-index: -9999;"></iframe> <iframe width="26.1800000000001" height="5.42000000000002" id="MoatPxIOPT0_99633942" scrolling="no" style="border-style: none; left: 1246px; top: 209px; width: 26.18px; height: 5.42px; position: absolute; z-index: -9999;"></iframe> True but clever players can survive without pace.
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Post by pottersrule on Feb 26, 2019 23:04:44 GMT
On the flip side, Adamoah is quite quick. It wasn't Adamoah it was El Ghazi.He is indeed rapid.
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Post by mickeythemaestro on Feb 26, 2019 23:14:57 GMT
On the flip side, Adamoah is quite quick. It wasn't Adamoah it was El Ghazi.He is indeed rapid. Stand corrected, cheers. Lightning!
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Post by nottsover60 on Feb 27, 2019 0:01:32 GMT
I don't think it was lack of pace as he matched him all down the pitch just didn't have that extra burst to get goal side of him. Experienced defenders would have tapped his ankles but he's not the first Stoke player I've seen not do that to prevent a player running the length of the pitch this season. We might not have lost as many games if players had been prepared to take a booking. And where was the cover for him?
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Post by Lesalanos on Feb 27, 2019 0:11:36 GMT
Picked the wrong pass, failed with the first tackle, missed opportunity to just give a foul, and missed opportunity to take a card.
All that said, I'd rather persevere with Edwards than a Martina.
He tries, works hard, and with support will be ok.
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Post by terrorofturfmoor on Feb 27, 2019 0:17:38 GMT
On the flip side, Adamoah is quite quick. Edit - as is El Ghazi He is.....even I'd have struggled keeping up with him, and I'm only 52!!!
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Post by danceswithclams on Feb 27, 2019 0:18:41 GMT
I'm fascinated to why he gets so much bashing though, it's fucking odd. Stoke fans in knee-jerk vilification shocker. Our support has a higher concentration of know-nothing gobshites than most other clubs, of that I am certain.
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Post by Trouserdog on Feb 27, 2019 6:53:34 GMT
He's going to be the next Ryan Shotton...hounded for any mistake, the same as any locally born player is. There are, for some reason, a significant number of people who can't wait to put the boot into lads from Stoke so they can try and show what free and independent thinkers they are, going against the grain of supporting 'one of our own'. Wankers, basically.
Sad really, because Edwards will have a decent career at this level (same as Shotton has) but that'll require a bit of patience and support while he makes the kind of mistakes that young players do.
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Post by Rt Hon Reverend Luvpump on Feb 27, 2019 7:15:59 GMT
Picked the wrong pass, failed with the first tackle, missed opportunity to just give a foul, and missed opportunity to take a card. All that said, I'd rather persevere with Edwards than a Martina. He tries, works hard, and with support will be ok. Correct picked the wrong pass too many goals conceded form poor passes in this team then 10 seconds later it’s in the back of the net with poor defending then poor goal keeping.
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Post by werrington on Feb 27, 2019 7:20:56 GMT
He's going to be the next Ryan Shotton...hounded for any mistake, the same as any locally born player is. There are, for some reason, a significant number of people who can't wait to put the boot into lads from Stoke so they can try and show what free and independent thinkers they are, going against the grain of supporting 'one of our own'. Wankers, basically. Sad really, because Edwards will have a decent career at this level (same as Shotton has) but that'll require a bit of patience and support while he makes the kind of mistakes that young players do. Take a bow mate......but seriously there’s no point even trying to make logic of it with them
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Post by Tunner on Feb 27, 2019 7:28:23 GMT
i'm led to believe from mates that have watched him come through U18's & 23's he has a bit of a nasty streak, yet to see it could of done with it saturday !!!
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Post by Mr_DaftBurger on Feb 27, 2019 9:22:47 GMT
He's going to be the next Ryan Shotton...hounded for any mistake, the same as any locally born player is. There are, for some reason, a significant number of people who can't wait to put the boot into lads from Stoke so they can try and show what free and independent thinkers they are, going against the grain of supporting 'one of our own'. Wankers, basically. Sad really, because Edwards will have a decent career at this level (same as Shotton has) but that'll require a bit of patience and support while he makes the kind of mistakes that young players do. Correct, it's been like this since I started watching in the 70's! Hazelgrave, Bould, Chapman, Moores.......... some examples.
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Post by robwahlmann on Feb 27, 2019 9:28:42 GMT
OK I have got my tin had ready, my point is that young Tom was found wanting in the pace department against Villa, not blaming him for the result but just concerned he is a young lad and bein* strongly discussed as our future right back, not sure I agree with that because yo7 don’t normally get faster as you get older.... He certainly won't be the answer as our future right back. His lack of speed won't make this possible. Playing at fullback is probably the worst position on a pitch when you lack this ability. There's a lot of football in young Tom, but fullback is not his position in my opinion.
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Post by pottersrule on Feb 27, 2019 9:42:39 GMT
He was naive, he should've kicked him into the stand on the half way line while he had the chance. I don't think he's "slow" though at all. I'm fascinated to why he gets so much bashing though, it's fucking odd. You've been on this forum long enough to know it's anything but odd.
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Post by AlliG on Feb 27, 2019 10:53:39 GMT
Picked the wrong pass, failed with the first tackle, missed opportunity to just give a foul, and missed opportunity to take a card. All that said, I'd rather persevere with Edwards than a Martina. He tries, works hard, and with support will be ok. Correct picked the wrong pass too many goals conceded form poor passes in this team then 10 seconds later it’s in the back of the net with poor defending then poor goal keeping. I can imagine the reaction on here if he had "taken a yellow card". "What a stupid challenge. The bloke was out on the touchline on half-way, Etebo was covering and the rest of the defence was pretty well placed" etc. Being beaten for pace out on the touchline really shouldn't automatically lead to a goal.
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Post by neddy on Feb 27, 2019 10:58:14 GMT
Didn’t he take a knock though before that situation which may have been hampering him?
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