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Post by wakefieldstokie on Feb 25, 2019 21:09:17 GMT
Hypothetical but what would we be saying if Coates senior had his way back in Jan and got O’Neil and Keane in?
Moaning at the style? Talking about playoffs?
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Post by potter25 on Feb 25, 2019 21:13:15 GMT
If was previous jan we’d possibly in the league above still
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Post by Deleted on Feb 25, 2019 21:15:09 GMT
Hypothetical but what would we be saying if Coates senior had his way back in Jan and got O’Neil and Keane in? Moaning at the style? Talking about playoffs? I wouldn’t be complaining if Stoke played how Forrest played first half of this match tonight...I mean it’s very typical championship in that everyone is running around a lot achieving very little but it’s not worst to watch than we are by a long way!
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Post by Absolution on Feb 25, 2019 21:23:16 GMT
At least one of them would be behind bars for committing a murder or six.
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Post by 19notbeaten72 on Feb 25, 2019 21:25:24 GMT
O,Neil & Keane could not have been any worse than whats being served up now or before under GR perhaps Keane would have sorted the dressing room out & kicked some arse. But we will never know as that ship has well & truly sailed.
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Post by kelw on Feb 25, 2019 21:29:00 GMT
Let's see what happens. A few months is a very short time in this division .Things change so quickly. Not like the Prem where you can almost guess where teams will finish, do next season etc.
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Post by mickeythemaestro on Feb 25, 2019 21:36:04 GMT
Not many might agree with me but I would have taken Keane on his own last year. As the person said above he would have at least scared the shyte out of a few players and speeded up their departures. And he undoubtedly would have stood up to the technical director and CEO. He's not one for mincing his words I hear.
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Post by kelw on Feb 25, 2019 21:37:23 GMT
Not many might agree with me but I would have taken Keane on his own last year. As the person said above he would have at least scared the shyte out of a few players and speeded up their departures. And he undoubtedly would have stood up to the technical director and CEO. He's not one for mincing his words I hear. Would have had no problem with that
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Post by terryconroysmagic on Feb 25, 2019 22:00:22 GMT
Not many might agree with me but I would have taken Keane on his own last year. As the person said above he would have at least scared the shyte out of a few players and speeded up their departures. And he undoubtedly would have stood up to the technical director and CEO. He's not one for mincing his words I hear. Keanes a walking disaster, great player but you need more than ranting and anger to manage a football team
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Post by Gods on Feb 26, 2019 0:28:00 GMT
If was previous jan we’d possibly in the league above still I think that's true. O'Neil would have got a feelgood factor back around the place, he's bright and a button and brimming with energy and positivity and he'd be huge factor in attracting good new players. He was my #1 choice all along for obvious reasons. I don't think he would have come though, even if we'd gone balls out to get him so unfortunately we are where we are.
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Feb 26, 2019 6:31:18 GMT
If was previous jan we’d possibly in the league above still I think that's true. O'Neil would have got a feelgood factor back around the place, he's bright and a button and brimming with energy and positivity and he'd be huge factor in attracting good new players. He was my #1 choice all along for obvious reasons. I don't think he would have come though, even if we'd gone balls out to get him so unfortunately we are where we are. The O’Neill of 1998 might’ve done. None of his teams since he left Villa could be described as ‘bright as a button’.
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Post by thevoid on Feb 26, 2019 7:12:56 GMT
They didn't take over a bunch of gutless habitual losers.
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Post by cobhamstokey on Feb 26, 2019 7:19:29 GMT
Not many might agree with me but I would have taken Keane on his own last year. As the person said above he would have at least scared the shyte out of a few players and speeded up their departures. And he undoubtedly would have stood up to the technical director and CEO. He's not one for mincing his words I hear. Which is exactly why he wouldn’t be offered it. They don’t want loose cannons because they don’t want to risk being put in the firing line.
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Post by werrington on Feb 26, 2019 7:19:49 GMT
Literally not one person on this Mb wanted Martin O’Neill as our manager on both occasions we were looking for one
Let’s not hold the club responsible for missing out on him eh
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Post by Deleted on Feb 26, 2019 7:23:14 GMT
Literally not one person on this Mb wanted Martin O’Neill as our manager on both occasions we were looking for one Let’s not hold the club responsible for missing out on him eh The judge reminds you not to speak when the court is sitting. Skippy dishes out a formal warning for Wez.
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Post by werrington on Feb 26, 2019 7:24:02 GMT
Literally not one person on this Mb wanted Martin O’Neill as our manager on both occasions we were looking for one Let’s not hold the club responsible for missing out on him eh The judge reminds you not to speak when the court is sitting. Formal warning for Wez. Fucking pathetic isn’t it mate
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Post by Deleted on Feb 26, 2019 7:27:14 GMT
Literally not one person on this Mb wanted Martin O’Neill as our manager on both occasions we were looking for one Let’s not hold the club responsible for missing out on him eh I still wouldn’t want him now, or any other manager who could do a quick turnaround with turgid football, I’d rather play the long game in the hope we can transform the club in 3-5 years into one that promotes youth and plays exciting football with a squad of players who actually want to be part of the project, not just pickup a huge final pay check and sit on the bench for the rest of their careers.
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Post by nott1 on Feb 26, 2019 8:11:22 GMT
They will be looking for three easy points next game unless we start showing some guts.Would be nice to see what Keane would have done with Bera.
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Post by Gods on Feb 26, 2019 8:18:49 GMT
I think that's true. O'Neil would have got a feelgood factor back around the place, he's bright and a button and brimming with energy and positivity and he'd be huge factor in attracting good new players. He was my #1 choice all along for obvious reasons. I don't think he would have come though, even if we'd gone balls out to get him so unfortunately we are where we are. The O’Neill of 1998 might’ve done. None of his teams since he left Villa could be described as ‘bright as a button’. Yes perhaps but lookout for the rise of Forest! I just like his intelligence and energy and experience, precisely what we needed.
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Post by Gods on Feb 26, 2019 8:20:54 GMT
Literally not one person on this Mb wanted Martin O’Neill as our manager on both occasions we were looking for one Let’s not hold the club responsible for missing out on him eh I did mate, O'Neill that is, check my posting history ! And I really thought he would be right up Mr. Coates street.
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Feb 26, 2019 8:28:21 GMT
The O’Neill of 1998 might’ve done. None of his teams since he left Villa could be described as ‘bright as a button’. Yes perhaps but lookout for the rise of Forest! I just like his intelligence and energy and experience, precisely what we needed. What has that actually yielded at club level since 2010 though? His teams don't seem to have much energy. They're cautious and a bit dull. He's a likeable, intelligent bloke but he's yesterday's news as far as management goes.
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Post by Veritas on Feb 26, 2019 8:40:49 GMT
Not many might agree with me but I would have taken Keane on his own last year. As the person said above he would have at least scared the shyte out of a few players and speeded up their departures. And he undoubtedly would have stood up to the technical director and CEO. He's not one for mincing his words I hear. Without doubt Keane would have produced a short term impact on the dressing room but longer term he would have been a disaster.
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Post by mickeythemaestro on Feb 26, 2019 9:37:27 GMT
Not many might agree with me but I would have taken Keane on his own last year. As the person said above he would have at least scared the shyte out of a few players and speeded up their departures. And he undoubtedly would have stood up to the technical director and CEO. He's not one for mincing his words I hear. Keanes a walking disaster, great player but you need more than ranting and anger to manage a football team Aye you're probably right but he did have that one good promotion season with Sunderland though. He'd have caused a bit of a stir though and I can't see how we could be any worse off looking at the current mess.
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Post by mickeythemaestro on Feb 26, 2019 9:38:48 GMT
Not many might agree with me but I would have taken Keane on his own last year. As the person said above he would have at least scared the shyte out of a few players and speeded up their departures. And he undoubtedly would have stood up to the technical director and CEO. He's not one for mincing his words I hear. Which is exactly why he wouldn’t be offered it. They don’t want loose cannons because they don’t want to risk being put in the firing line. Correct!!
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Post by JurgenVandeurzen on Feb 26, 2019 9:57:01 GMT
Pep would struggle with this lot.
I don't see why people can't get their heads around that.
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Post by Absolution on Feb 26, 2019 11:18:21 GMT
Pep would struggle with this lot. I don't see why people can't get their heads around that. Because they wanted us to appoint Pep.
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Post by Mr_DaftBurger on Feb 26, 2019 11:21:42 GMT
Literally not one person on this Mb wanted Martin O’Neill as our manager on both occasions we were looking for one Let’s not hold the club responsible for missing out on him eh I did mate, O'Neill that is, check my posting history ! And I really thought he would be right up Mr. Coates street. It seems it's young Mr Coates doing the bidding these days. How did Forest manage to beat the best current manager in the worlds Derby? I say current as the bloke there last year did a lot better with less money!
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Post by silverdollar on Feb 26, 2019 13:23:14 GMT
O,Neil & Keane could not have been any worse than whats being served up now or before under GR perhaps Keane would have sorted the dressing room out & kicked some arse. But we will never know as that ship has well & truly sailed. What evidence do you have to make this statement?! Are you such a Neanderthal that you think a person such as Keen can bully players into playing? The problems at Stoke cannot be solved in only six or seven games! You only have to see our goal on Saturday to see that Nathan Jones is advancing our offensive play. He is still lumbered with players he doesn't really want because of contracts. So far Jones's signings have seen an improvement and all you need to do is support the team!
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Post by shangamuzo on Feb 26, 2019 13:33:22 GMT
I think that's true. O'Neil would have got a feelgood factor back around the place, he's bright and a button and brimming with energy and positivity and he'd be huge factor in attracting good new players. He was my #1 choice all along for obvious reasons. I don't think he would have come though, even if we'd gone balls out to get him so unfortunately we are where we are. The O’Neill of 1998 might’ve done. None of his teams since he left Villa could be described as ‘bright as a button’. The little ROI didn't do too bad in the last World Cup did they ?
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Post by estrangedsonoffaye on Feb 26, 2019 13:34:30 GMT
The O’Neill of 1998 might’ve done. None of his teams since he left Villa could be described as ‘bright as a button’. The little ROI didn't do too bad in the last World Cup did they ? The one they didn't qualify for?
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